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fantasyx72
08-09-2007, 01:17 PM
What better than Bittorrenting,like what other things can people can download from not like limewire and stuff but better then bittorrent,I heard about newsgroup but you have to pay for a server,thanks

raspberry1331
08-09-2007, 01:19 PM
one word. two syllables: nothing

Skiz
08-09-2007, 01:27 PM
one word. two syllables: nothing

Don't speak on things you have no clue about. It leaves members uninformed.

Fantasyx72 - Look into newsgroups, it's definitely a far superior method of file sharing. Max download speeds 24/7, no seeding or uploading, completely safe. Depending on what your ISP offers can determine if you'll have to pay a small monthly fee.

If your ISP provides no free access, Newshosting is one of the best and quite inexpensive. $14.99/month for unlimited downloading.

GigaNews is the best IMO and can be $19.99/month for unlimited usage.

If you decide to go with one of those, be sure to click one of the ads here on the site so FST gets the reference. (look at the stickies (http://filesharingtalk.com/vb3/f-newsgroups-79/)) ;)

Also, a listing of the more popular ISPs and some of what they offer can be found here, but call your ISP to make sure - http://www.usenettools.net/ISP.htm

necromantic
08-09-2007, 01:28 PM
one word. two syllables: nothing

One word, one syllable: Wrong!

Newsgroups in all fairness is probably better than bittorrent. The downloads are faster and there's more material. Plus you don't have to upload. It is very good but it has it's problems. Retention is an issue, and it's a little tougher to find what you want.

I still use a combination of newsgroups and bittorrent to get what I want.

Edit: bah, you beat me Skizo

fantasyx72
08-09-2007, 01:33 PM
They say I can use my ISP for a Newsgroup server,can I use my Verizon FIOS

Skiz
08-09-2007, 01:35 PM
Retention is an issue, and it's a little tougher to find what you want.

Depends on your provider, really. I use Giganews which has 200 day retention on binaries and 1,500 days on text. That's about 6.5 months for binaries. I rarely find something too old.

I still use a combination of newsgroups and bittorrent to get what I want.

That usually works best. I download most everything from Usenet and get special items such as movie packs, etc. from trackers.

Edit: bah, you beat me Skizo

:P


They say I can use my ISP for a Newsgroup server,can I use my Verizon FIOS

Since you're not going to read from the link I posted, I'll post it for you. :dry:

I know that Verizon does, but what is FIOS?


Verizon news.verizon.net Verizon Help
Allows up to 5 connections

fantasyx72
08-09-2007, 01:43 PM
FIOS is the new service there providing and seems alot cheaper from what there offering from 5mbps-15mbps-30mbps-50mbps,but rare in some areas

Skiz
08-09-2007, 01:49 PM
FIOS is the new service there providing and seems alot cheaper from what there offering from 5mbps-15mbps-30mbps-50mbps,but rare in some areas

Well, it's still Verizon so I assume the above information is still valid.

fantasyx72
08-09-2007, 01:53 PM
so i would need a password right?seeing the link you gave me verizon seems one of the best ones there on that list

Skiz
08-09-2007, 02:00 PM
so i would need a password right?seeing the link you gave me verizon seems one of the best ones there on that list

No password needed probably. Would be the first time I've seen an ISP require one.

Setup Grab it and start downloading. Remember though, ISP speeds are notorious for being inconsistent. Just judge newsgroups by your ISPs speeds. ;)

fantasyx72
08-09-2007, 02:06 PM
ook cool ill try it out now

Ok I added my servers name and when I try to get the group list its comes red and says communication failed(status) and update group list full(subject),,you sure i dont need password because i dont know it

sp0ngeb0b
08-09-2007, 03:49 PM
I'd second the newsgroup notion as well.

Another good alternative is Rapidshare. While it isn't unlimited, it's a lot cheaper and there's a lot more content. You only get ~5GB/day using Rapidshare which might be more than enough for some people.

fantasyx72
08-09-2007, 05:35 PM
I'd second the newsgroup notion as well.

Another good alternative is Rapidshare. While it isn't unlimited, it's a lot cheaper and there's a lot more content. You only get ~5GB/day using Rapidshare which might be more than enough for some people.MAN I THINK I DOWNLOAD 14gbs a day so i dont think that would be good and how fast is that ,i mean i use it before but not sign on as a user

raspberry1331
08-09-2007, 06:46 PM
one word. two syllables: nothing

One word, one syllable: Wrong!

Newsgroups in all fairness is probably better than bittorrent. The downloads are faster and there's more material. Plus you don't have to upload. It is very good but it has it's problems. Retention is an issue, and it's a little tougher to find what you want.

I still use a combination of newsgroups and bittorrent to get what I want.

Edit: bah, you beat me Skizo

I just expressed my opinion, I'm also using both two, and I found bittorrent to be better. Speed and security is indeed strong points of newsgroups, but on bittorrent there is far more material than on newsgroups, which is the most important aspect for me.

sp0ngeb0b
08-09-2007, 08:37 PM
MAN I THINK I DOWNLOAD 14gbs a day so i dont think that would be good and how fast is that ,i mean i use it before but not sign on as a user

The speed is on par with newsgroups. You'll max your connection. The 5GB/day is what it averages out to be with Rapidshare. You can download more than that in a day. And you average more than 400GB every month? That's quite a bit with bittorrent.

thewizeard
08-10-2007, 04:37 PM
There are three things better...

First is of course sex..then closely followed by, FileSharingTalk filesharing servers, found here.. http://www.gotnap.com/index.php?loc=list then erm...FST.com forums ( The Lounge) found here, http://filesharingtalk.com/vb3/f-lounge-10/ ...that's it.

Skiz
08-10-2007, 05:59 PM
Another good alternative is Rapidshare. While it isn't unlimited, it's a lot cheaper and there's a lot more content.

That's a joke, right? :dry:

AmpeD
08-10-2007, 06:40 PM
Another good alternative is Rapidshare. While it isn't unlimited, it's a lot cheaper and there's a lot more content.

That's a joke, right? :dry:
Actually skizo I upload to rapidshare a tiny bit a month and am able to have a premium account every month based on points. RS maxes out my connection and I dont need to worry about ratio. I use it for really large files.

r77
08-10-2007, 06:47 PM
im using usenet and for me its better then bt

sp0ngeb0b
08-10-2007, 07:31 PM
Another good alternative is Rapidshare. While it isn't unlimited, it's a lot cheaper and there's a lot more content.

That's a joke, right? :dry:

Have you used rapidshare? The content is quite extensive and most stuff doesn't disappear after a few months.

Skiz
08-10-2007, 07:45 PM
I've poked around on it a bit just to see what it was all about.

I don't think there is as much quality content as Usenet though, or even close. :blink:

samoyan
08-11-2007, 02:33 AM
Maybe a wrong thread, but let me tell my story)...

I heard newsgroups have the same quality and content as torrent trackers, that`s why I decided to use it for a month just to check it out. I purchased unlimited newsgroup access from NewsDemon.com (using FST reference link). After that I installed Grab It, configured it and logged in to my account.

...It took me more than an hour to update groups that I found.

...I used Search function to find some stuff, but this function is limited to 2 tries, after that you need to subscribe for "Grab It search".

...I tried to find "Everybody Loves Raymond" seasons, however found just one out of nine.

Maybe I did something wrong, but I found newsgroups a bit ambiguous...:ermm:

I also used the link above and found my ISP in the list.

Optimum Online
news.optonline.net
Allows 2 connections, 500kbps per connection cap.

What can you download with this configuration? Not too much I think...

LaPistola
08-11-2007, 02:43 AM
note: FIOS= Verizons new fiber optic network, faster and cheaper than cable

samoyan
08-11-2007, 03:32 AM
note: FIOS= Verizons new fiber optic network, faster and cheaper than cablehttp://www22.verizon.com/content/consumerfios/packages+and+prices/packages+and+prices.htm

Up to 30 Mbps/5 Mbps - $179.95 :w00t: ... how can it be cheaper than cable?

Optimum Online Cable Boost 30Mbps/5Mbps costs $65 :)

iNSOMNiA
08-11-2007, 03:36 AM
I don't think newsgroup are "better" than BT private site.. sct/ftn pre times cannot be beaten by newsgroup.. I download all my 0days stuffs from only few trackers at speed like 2MB/s which is the maximum for me atm. I wud say that newsgroup is good for archives or non scene stuffs but private trackers still better imo and it's free..
If you're willing to pay a monthly cost for your downloads, you shud rent a leech slot on a fast ftp site.. that the only thing "better" than bittorrent imo.

r77
08-11-2007, 05:52 AM
im new with usenet and i can say its great resource yes 1-2 minutes slower,but i think its not bad .And i dont know about ftp site i heard that reasonable one worth $45/month .this is a little comparison btw sct and newsgruop:
http://i198.photobucket.com/albums/aa279/mrree22/monk.jpg

http://i198.photobucket.com/albums/aa279/mrree22/psych02.jpg

sp0ngeb0b
08-12-2007, 12:35 AM
I've poked around on it a bit just to see what it was all about.

I don't think there is as much quality content as Usenet though, or even close. :blink:

It's true that it's not as easy to locate content as much as newsgroups. (binsearch or newzleech) However, there are many forums where rapidshare links are present. Probably just as many as there are private torrent sites if not more! There are really 'big' boards that have almost everything and there are smaller boards that specialize in a certain genre (music or porn for instance). Pretty similar to bittorrent now that I think of it.



im new with usenet and i can say its great resource yes 1-2 minutes slower,but i think its not bad.

Pretty much the same when you take into consideration the PARs that were created as well.

slick99
08-12-2007, 01:26 AM
you know what u need, you need to get a rapidshare premium account for like 5 US dollars and then join forumw.org or warez-bb.org. They have all the stuff you will need and not worry about seeding back either. Also its great speeds that max out your connection.

AmpeD
08-12-2007, 01:29 AM
bit torrent is the best quality things in my opinion. rapidshare has lots of good stuff but is also littered with junk. O slick99, warez-bb.org is how i found out about this forum, its an excellent forum and I have 2500 posts there

qutie_blossomx
08-14-2007, 01:19 AM
it's sad i can't download good stuff since our office server blocked torrents and its sad coz bittorent is quite good :( i'm a newbie and i only depend on others to share their files :(

4play
08-14-2007, 09:35 AM
it's sad i can't download good stuff since our office server blocked torrents and its sad coz bittorent is quite good :( i'm a newbie and i only depend on others to share their files :(

your really silly enough to steal bandwidth from your place of work. you must hate your job.

arkiebrian
08-15-2007, 04:14 AM
What better than Bittorrenting,like heard about newsgroup but you have to pay for a server,thanks

Most ISPs provide free access to news servers. You can find good stuff there that you won't see on BitTorrent.

And...whenever I'm looking for some really obscure music (I'm into Viking metal, etc.) and I don't find it on BT I always find it on eMule.

hp1702
08-15-2007, 07:31 PM
uhh?

fxping?

Ac3Dunk
08-17-2007, 06:03 AM
What better than Bittorrenting,like heard about newsgroup but you have to pay for a server,thanks

Most ISPs provide free access to news servers. You can find good stuff there that you won't see on BitTorrent.

And...whenever I'm looking for some really obscure music (I'm into Viking metal, etc.) and I don't find it on BT I always find it on eMule.


Comcast offer Free NG access but its sucks only 2GB per month also how come are you running Emule one of my friend told me thats if you run emule wait for your ISP to
send you a email Warning .
http://www.lockergnome.com/nexus/shadowmyth/2007/07/18/illegal-downloading-comcast-knows/
Pay like 50$ for 2 months if you dont hav any skills and get access to topsite shud be outside of US and ask any of your friends to vouch for you in other FTPs and you can download so fast you hav to care only abt trading and the ratio is good if you up TV-SHOW or Movie is 1:3 for MP3 MVID and 0day APPS is 1:2.

fantasyx72
08-18-2007, 05:07 AM
im going to get that Optimum Online Cable Boost im now finding about it its a good deal since the first mouths free and it really works seen the charts and you dont need to wait for version fios to come in the area if you got this

munaaf
08-18-2007, 08:49 PM
oo yea newsgroups rule, plus luckilly for me my isp is free with a 120 day retention shame about only 3 bots

mini-me
08-28-2007, 07:13 PM
I'd say newsgroups prob... but I still think BT is great.

WhiteWizard20
09-23-2007, 08:54 PM
You can check out eMule and Newsgroups. I still think Bittorrent is the best way to download though.

thegreenknight
09-26-2007, 05:26 AM
Usenet is superior than bittorrent, and with usenet clients like NewsLeecher (with supersearch) it makes finding what you need easier then ever before.