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MIDO-MIKO
07-03-2003, 09:30 AM
I like to think of myself as fairly computer literate, but i am always suprised by how much i don&#39;t know about one subject; how much of my personal information is avaliable for people to spy. Having heard more and more about the RIAA "cracking down" on P2P filesharing, i&#39;ve been very curious as to how they would ever be able to track individual people down and arrest them, or whatever. Exactly what information are you sending out when you&#39;re connected to a P2P network? How could a hacker/the government/whatever use this information? Is there anything i can do to increase my anonimity? I would be very interested in learning about how to protect myself on-line in general. <_<

If someone has any information or links to a good website with information about internet privacy/protection i would love to learn more. Thanks in advance :D

MIKO

MetroStars
07-03-2003, 12:13 PM
Dam fine question MIDO-MIKO -- I would also luv sum info on this

ilw
07-03-2003, 12:27 PM
In fast track u upload a list of your shared files to the supernode, so I suppose thats visible to the RIAA. When u connect to someone u will be giving your ip address (and the port kazaa runs on) and without the privacy patch u will also be again showing what files u r sharing. From the Ip addres anyone can determine your ISP and your location in the world (actually might be your isp&#39;s location in the world). (With your ip address they can also probably determine whether or not you r firewalled.) Thats enough info for the RIAA to find out who u r, by contacting your isp and asking them for who logged in to that IP address at that time (if dynamic) or if its static they&#39;ll just ask who is assigned that ip address.

Probably the easiest way to make yourself more anonymous is to use a proxy server(s), there are lists of free ones constantly being updated if u go looking for them. This will slow down your download speed but will essentially better hide your ip address, though it could still be found out if the records of the proxy server were also kept and examined. I&#39;ll leave it to someone else to do the more advanced stuff and provide links.

asmithz
07-03-2003, 12:48 PM
Well think of it as this they get your ip no problem. Well your ip shows your connection and location of your computer. So they got where you live they look who live there that would be you now they know who you are. Now all they got to do is go to your local sheriff and say they need a warnet to seize your computer on the ground of piricey, stealing, copyright infingment, and conspicey. Dosent sound cool cuase after that you have to pay &#036;700 each song you have after that microsoft and many other companies will rear there evil heads in when they find that you obtained there product (i.e. sever 2000 &#036;4000). Sounds like a big deal but also if you havent went to collage yet, dont count on going they make it so you cant just as if you got caught for hacking. Same things will happen no phone no collage ( DAM YOUZ GUYZ ATS THA RIAA AND MPAA ). It&#39;s all bull crap please keep sharing, i know this might happen to me but i am not scared i am kinda worried yes, but oh well i say screw them i&#39;ll share for ever even if i get cuaght lol also if you do get cuaght put up a web page for donations i&#39;ll donate we all wil.l

nucleardawg
07-03-2003, 03:51 PM
I&#39;m hoping that music is the only thing thats getting cracked down on. By the way, is it legal to download singles? Is anything you download on a file sharing network legit? Cause I have no idea.

MIDO-MIKO
07-03-2003, 07:22 PM
Wow, that was the longest sentance-without-a-period i have ever seen :rolleyes:

Thanks for the info though, so it sounds like it would be pretty easy for the government to find out almost anything they want about me just through my connection with kazaa... thats kind of scary. Hopefuly they&#39;ll never find out about that japanese bukkake scat underage bestiality video i downloaded :D

Keep the information comming, it would be great if someone had some good news, like maybe some new technology that helps with masking our online identidy... maybe. Well theres always wishful thinking. tata for now

MIKO

bungholio
07-03-2003, 09:22 PM
By the way, is it legal to download singles? Is anything you download on a file sharing network legit? Cause I have no idea.

No it is not legal to download singles if those singles are available to buy in shops or anywhere. If someone has made music for example in thier bedroom and put it on fileshareing then it is free and legal but if what you download weather it be music/games/films/software most likely it is illeagle, definatly if it is available to buy somewhere then it will be illeagle to download for free i havnt found or heard of anyone who uses a filesharing system for legit purposes. Ooops yes i know one person he is a dj and releases his stuff free on some filesharing program. Otherwise most people use it to get games music etc...

As for getting caught i say fuck them. I am 28 and have been copying games, etc since i was 14 and had my atari ST only we sent games through the post they didnt do shit then allthough they (F.A.S.T. Federation Against Software Theft) did have loads of adverts warning that you will be caught. Some may get fines or something,millions will get nothing but free stuff still. That is what i think anyway :D :D

BiLLy_BloggZ
07-03-2003, 09:30 PM
Originally posted by bungholio@3 July 2003 - 22:22

By the way, is it legal to download singles? Is anything you download on a file sharing network legit? Cause I have no idea.

No it is not legal to download singles if those singles are available to buy in shops or anywhere. If someone has made music for example in thier bedroom and put it on fileshareing then it is free and legal but if what you download weather it be music/games/films/software most likely it is illeagle, definatly if it is available to buy somewhere then it will be illeagle to download for free i havnt found or heard of anyone who uses a filesharing system for legit purposes. Ooops yes i know one person he is a dj and releases his stuff free on some filesharing program. Otherwise most people use it to get games music etc...

As for getting caught i say fuck them. I am 28 and have been copying games, etc since i was 14 and had my atari ST only we sent games through the post they didnt do shit then allthough they (F.A.S.T. Federation Against Software Theft) did have loads of adverts warning that you will be caught. Some may get fines or something,millions will get nothing but free stuff still. That is what i think anyway :D :D
how can it be illegal to download singles when there shown on TV music chart shows for free?

bungholio
07-03-2003, 09:44 PM
because they have paid the copyright holder money to play it,has your music been copied from the single or from a T.V. show? if it is from tv show then i am not sure if it legal or not, but i havent come across tracks that have been copied off the telly cause i guess it wouldnt be to good quality, although i have seen music videos from mtv, etc for download I dont know what the legal status of that would be but i would sure like to know.

I dont mind breaking the law i just want to know the law so I know exactly when I&#39;m breaking it :ph34r:

Cl1mh4224rd
07-03-2003, 10:32 PM
Originally posted by Shad0w Hacker@3 July 2003 - 13:48
well think of it as this they get your ip no problem well and ip show your connection and location of your computer so they got where you live they look who live there that would be you now they know who you are
For the last time... Your IP is not your computer&#39;s physical location on the planet&#33;

IPs may be assigned a certain range for certain geographical areas near the ISP (and that&#39;s just educated speculation on my part), so someone may be able to get a general idea of where you live, but there is absolutely no way, other than contacting your ISP, that they can determine your street address.

The most information someone could gather about you through your connection to the FastTrack network is: your IP, the port number Kazaa is running on, the files you are sharing (if the hide option isn&#39;t turned on. even then, they could just gather your username over multiple searches of different files).

Knowing the IP, in turn, tells them who your ISP is, and that&#39;s where someone will get the most information about you, by contacting them.

asmithz
07-03-2003, 10:33 PM
MIDO MIKO porn dosent count if you get cuaght it&#39;s not a mager motion picture. Well it also depends on what it is if they are really underage then you in troble. Also if you delete they can find little all most insugifacant fragments of that file. Even if you reformat your drive replace is the only way.

MIDO-MIKO
07-04-2003, 12:23 AM
Sorry, i was just joking about the underage scat porn... *cough*

Anyway, so no-one has a good site with some info about online privacy and protection and the like? I&#39;ve been trying to search through the internet but using a search engine now adays is practicaly useless (like 4 pages of nothing but porn hits) so i was hoping to reley on word of mouth through the forums. Hopefuly someone can help me. Thanks again to everyone who gave information :D

MIKO

Keikan
07-04-2003, 07:42 AM
A Miko is a priestess

Dazaal
07-05-2003, 02:24 AM
I run a prog called steganos internet privacy from a PCW cover disc (I&#39;ve also seen it on kazaalite in German) which I have assumed would cover my tracks, can anyone confirm/deny this?

randm01
07-05-2003, 10:09 PM
you could runa firewall or peerguardian and and so called known ip ranges to be blocked..this is not a definite way to become safe..it relies only on info gathered by users for ip ranges that are suspect of being for BAD ppl such as iraa and warner bros etc...it can also accidently block users who have nothing to do with those BAD ppl and innocent websites...it wont be perfect but it is better than nothing if your worried...make sure you update the ip ranges regularly to fix GOOD ones and to block new BAD ones..once again it isnt the perfect fix..

Rat Faced
07-06-2003, 12:19 AM
Wether its illegal to download music etc is a matter of where you&#39;re located.

Its illegal to upload copyrighted material in the UK but NOT to download it, for example.

There are even some places where copyright means absolutely nothing...so get a proxy in one of those places if your very paranoid.

MIDO-MIKO
07-06-2003, 08:26 PM
Sorry i don&#39;t know what a proxy is :D

[B][O][T]
07-06-2003, 08:39 PM
Originally posted by MIDO-MIKO@6 July 2003 - 22:26
Sorry i don&#39;t know what a proxy is :D
A proxy server is a server that sits between a client application, such as a web browser, and a remote server. The proxy server intercepts all requests to the remote server to see if it can fulfill the requests itself. If not, it forwards the request to the remote server.

A proxy server receives a request for an Internet service such as a web page request from a user. If it passes the filtering requirements the proxy server assumes it is also a cache server and looks in its local cache of previously downloaded web pages. If it finds the page, it returns it to the user without needing to forward the request to the Internet. If the page is not found, the proxy server acts as a client on behalf of the user and uses its own IP address to request the web page from the Internet. An advantage of using a proxy server is that because one or more Internet sites are frequently requested, they are likely to be in the proxy&#39;s cache, which improves response time.

Tinny0001
07-08-2003, 12:15 AM
Now i&#39;m scared. Every thing on my computer is illigal. :blink:
i&#39;m in NZ so i&#39;m hoping those riaa basterds wont get me, anyways wat the fuck is RIAA?

KazukiNobu
07-08-2003, 07:04 PM
I got a question I wanted to ask you smart peoples heya...

Anime, or Japanimation, people call it cartoons, but seriously people, its not, my questions pertains to anime.

Anime that has been licensed in America, IS illegal to download correct? But, anime that hasn&#39;t been licensed here, and is ONLY available in Japan is TOTALLY legal to download from Kazaa or iMesh or Grokster or Morpheus etc etc, correct?

The same for music, music that has NOT been released in the US yet, such as JPOP(Japanese music) cannot be illegal to download because it is NOT available here at all, it hasn&#39;t been licensed, so the goverment can&#39;t say crap about copyright infringement or whatever, am I correct about this as well?

If I AM correct, I think all you guys should start learning a different language *cough* Japanese *cough* and start liking anime, because they CAN&#39;T get you for that...right?

RealitY
07-08-2003, 07:26 PM
Closest thing I have found surrounding protecting your security in a p2p program is ES5. They are located in Palestine where copright laws do not apply. They are currently streaming movies and are probably the AA worst nightmare. They supply proxies for use with their software and are concerned about security. You can check out their forums HERE (http://forums2.es5.com/).

jamvan01
07-09-2003, 03:04 AM
If i was the only one downloading these "pirated" copies of software i would be concerned. At the present time there are 3,782,769 users on kazaa alone. So the chances that i will get caught are 3,782,769 to one. I like those odds.

BlizZ
07-09-2003, 03:46 AM
hey&#33; where can I find the privacy patch?

swordofdoom
07-10-2003, 05:15 AM
:angry: Man all this talk is freaking the SHI*T outta me. I feel like not sharing or even downloading anymore for the sake of myself. God dam-n those bastar-ds. One day, i&#39;ll create a freakin freeware that will totally block out all of our IP&#39;s. In the future look for a freeware called, "IP-Zero". It might just save all of our as from the government and any other pigs whoze too greedy to share.

aoyv73
07-10-2003, 11:19 AM
as for porn here in the uk chances are if plod saw porn on your pc your busted

now get this some one has now said that if some person has a mere 6 child porn
images on there pc fine thats ok like maybe just fall on the damn pc
a guy who had a sex shop just got 9 months inside his crime selling hard core vids

not rated oh and they were normal stuff not under age in this country sell porn go to jail 6 kiddie pics fine no problem

VB
07-10-2003, 01:09 PM
The RIAA does NOT arrest people. They can only TRY to sue you to TRY to get a small fine. You can&#39;t go to jail.

RIAA is popular music only.
RIAA is USA only.

Changes of getting caught by the RIAA are smaller as dying becuase of cancer.

ricky123
07-10-2003, 02:11 PM
:ph34r: there is a new program called blupster which can hide ur stuff what ur sharing ,i dint use it till now but i heard it on fox news .

apunkrockmonk
07-12-2003, 04:49 AM
3,782,769 isn&#39;t the total number of users on kazaa, its the total number of users on your super node, there are many many more users on kazaa right now, i assure you.

RealitY
07-12-2003, 06:39 AM
Originally posted by apunkrockmonk@12 July 2003 - 05:49
3,782,769 isn&#39;t the total number of users on kazaa, its the total number of users on your super node, there are many many more users on kazaa right now, i assure you.
Actually its total users at the moment.