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Penis Monkey
07-03-2003, 02:35 PM
I'm looking to get a new processor, a top notch one, but I don't know if it is possible to replace the current one. Does anyone know if you can?
Also, can you replace a processor yourself or do you have to get a specialist to do it?
Can I get any new processor or is the choice limited by the motherboard I have?
And one more thing, I also intend to buy more RAM but my computer says 256MB MAX. It has probably already been mentioned somewhere but I want to know what would happen if I exceeded the maximum amount. Would the excess RAM not work or would it work perfectly fine as if there was no limitation?
Thankyou.

CornerPocket
07-03-2003, 03:24 PM
Providing your pc specs would help determine what you are capable of upgrading too.

Changing a cpu is really not to difficult and would probably take around 3-5 minutes to remove/install. Most current mobo's have the auto cpu config that does the work for you vs. setting jumpers. Of course change out times could vary based on someone who has done it vs. not at all.

Adding more memory to a limited mobo is not worth the effort. May not be recognized anyway. Better to upgrade type persay from say pc100 - pc133 to DDR if allowable.

More spec info will get more responses. :)

Wolfmight
07-03-2003, 03:28 PM
u can still get fast cpus for under $100 online.

Amd Althon XP 2400 2.0ghz $75
Pentium 4 1.8GHz Sock 478 $62

check http://www.pricewatch.com/

ilw
07-03-2003, 03:31 PM
I sincerely doubt your motherboard can handle a good chip if it can only cope with 256Mb ram.
Your mobo is really gonna limit u, u can't exceed any of its specs so what it lists for max processor speed, ram quantity and speed those are ur limits. If u've got the money upgrade the mobo along with processor, ram and graphics card.
As cornerpocket said, specs/model would give us a better idea

Penis Monkey
07-03-2003, 03:37 PM
256MB RAM MAX
20GB HD
3 Serial Ports
Intel Something Graphics Card (Not compat. with XP)
Came with Windows ME but upgraded to XP
Intel Celeron Processor
Serial to USB hub using a serial port
56K Modem but use external 150K Cable Modem

That's all I can think of.

EDIT: In £, how much do you think my PC would be worth. I know that there isn't much info to go by, but I can't remember the full spec.

CornerPocket
07-03-2003, 03:59 PM
Originally posted by Penis Monkey@3 July 2003 - 10:37
256MB RAM MAX
20GB HD
3 Serial Ports
Intel Something Graphics Card (Not compat. with XP)
Came with Windows ME but upgraded to XP
Intel Celeron Processor
Serial to USB hub using a serial port
56K Modem but use external 150K Cable Modem

That's all I can think of.

Getting closer, try using Belarc (http://www.belarc.com/free_download.html). Gives a detailed report of system specs. Need to know what Celeron processor speed you currently have, memory type (we see that it is 256MB) and mobo type. After that more details can be provided.

Nightwolf
07-03-2003, 04:06 PM
Contact your PC manufacturer, or if you can find the brand and model number of your motherboard you may be able to find the upgrade info online.

You can get pretty cheap processors here, but I'm not sure if they ship to Europe. If your motherboard can't handle the upgrade, you might want to consider one of their 'Barebones' systems...

http://www.pcdirect.com/cats.asp?CatID=60

Penis Monkey
07-03-2003, 05:55 PM
Here you go, finally.

Operating System

System Model
Windows XP Professional (build 2600)

TriGem Computer, Inc. Emachines 100
Processor a

Main Circuit Board b
733 megahertz Intel Celeron
32 kilobyte primary memory cache
128 kilobyte secondary memory cache

Board: TriGem Computer, Inc. TriGem System Board
Bus Clock: 66 megahertz
BIOS: Phoenix Technologies LTD Version 1.02 01/09/2001
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20.01 Gigabytes Usable Hard Drive Capacity
12.34 Gigabytes Hard Drive Free Space

SAMSUNG COMBO SM-304B [CD-ROM drive]
3.5" format removeable media [Floppy drive]

ST320413A [Hard drive] (20.02 GB) -- drive 0

192 Megabytes Installed Memory

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Slot 'M2' has 64 MB

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Intel® 82801AA Bus Master IDE Controller
Primary IDE Channel [Controller]
Secondary IDE Channel [Controller]

Intel® 82810 Graphics Controller [Display adapter]
Plug and Play Monitor (13.8"vis, March 2001)
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CornerPocket
07-03-2003, 07:07 PM
Okay looks like you have a Emachine computer. Could either be a eTower 733i (http://www.e4all.info/motherboards/cognacplus.htm) (US version) or eMachine (http://www.e4all.info/support/uk_motherboards/uk_cognac+.htm) (UK version).

Take a look at the tower see if you have a model number on the front. Then go to the Unofficial eMachine Help Site (http://www.e4all.info/). Tons of good info related to your type of machine. Once you get the model number, you should have no issue finding upgrade info. You may also want to upgrade any board drivers and Bios, once pinpointed.

On the site to the left is Motherboards (How To & Reference), click to help identify yours once you have the pc model number.

To the right is Max Cpu Support (http://www.e4all.info/support/max_cpu.htm)

Think you will find that site very useful.

Penis Monkey
07-03-2003, 07:19 PM
Thankyou very much for your concern. I am very grateful of your help.
Again, thankyou.

ilw
07-04-2003, 08:00 AM
Just out of curiosity what r u planning on doing now? how much money did u plan on spending on a brand new processor? & how r u running xp if your graphics card doesn't support it? :blink:
U mentioned a price quote, but u might get a bit of a raw deal if u sell it. U might be better off selling parts of it (if possible) eg mobo,processor & ram and keeping the rest. The combo dvd/cdrw drive, monitor, case, mouse, keyboard and the hard drive are probably decent & u would end up spending a fair bit replacing them.

(¯`·._.·[Rob]·._.·´¯)
07-04-2003, 08:50 AM
Operating System System Model
Windows XP Professional (build 2600) No details available
Processor a Main Circuit Board b
2666 megahertz AMD Athlon XP
128 kilobyte primary memory cache
256 kilobyte secondary memory cache Board: VT8366-8233
Bus Clock: 133 megahertz
BIOS: Award Software International, Inc. 6.00 PG 09/23/2002
Drives Memory Modules c,d
61.48 Gigabytes Usable Hard Drive Capacity
12.59 Gigabytes Hard Drive Free Space

IDE DVD-ROM 16X [CD-ROM drive]
PHILIPS CDRW1610A [CD-ROM drive]
3.5" format removeable media [Floppy drive]

ExcelStor Technology J360 [Hard drive] (61.49 GB) -- drive 0 512 Megabytes Installed Memory

Slot 'A0' is Empty
Local Drive Volumes

c: (on drive 0) 61.48 GB 12.59 GB free

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how much £ for mine?

ilw
07-04-2003, 09:03 AM
umm why is your bus clock 133MHz? shouldn't it be 166MHz if your using an XP3000+ ?

(¯`·._.·[Rob]·._.·´¯)
07-04-2003, 09:04 AM
fuck if i no