SHUVT is back...

[SHUVT]

Just thought I would take the time to say hello to all of the FSTers new and old. Sorry for the lack of informative and entertaining posts. I do see that there was no lack of drama during my absence in the BT world, but what are ya going to do?

[JA]

Considering im the first post i don't think a lot of people could care... :P

Except me! WB.

[import_fighter]

I DO!!!

Welcome Back :)

[iNSOMNiA]

OH NOES!!! IZ Back!1!

[sear]

Don't know you that well but you seem like a decent enough bloke so good to see you ;)

[iNSOMNiA]

welcome back btw

[Something Else]

welcome back SHUVT I saw u in teh lounge...how's things???

[Necronomicon]

Who U might be? I was told U are a sysop of a Nontrading Community. Just do not want to name that.

[rapesauce10]

Hey SHUVT...

[kirktrix]

Welcome back........:D

[jam0980tr]

Welcome back buddy

[maxehhh]

Wb :p

[blackbird]

when does your DP go away ??

[JA]

when does your DP go away ??
5 Years :happy:

[wheeloftime]

Nice to see you again SHUVT

[SKGunners]

Welcome back, SHUVT. Glad to have you back.

[_coder_]

I can see that FST has given you a nice shiny DP badge as your welcome present.

[Vercors]

Welcome back dude

[beat]

Though I don't know you I saw some good informative posts of yours, so welcome back.

[Dr. Lecter]

The first drink is on me mate.

[KevinGarnet]

welcome back :) don't know you much but i think in the future i will know you more and more..

[Night0wl]

Think it's about time for that DP to be taken off.

Welcome back BTW :)

[necromantic]

SHUVT who? Never heard of him ;)

[nemesi54]

Hey buddy welcome....

[jounior]

Welcome back old friend

[SpiderPig]

SHUVT who? Never heard of him ;)

me either

[Chewie]

Think it's about time for that DP to be taken off.
orly?

[Enlightened]

SHUVT who? Never heard of him ;)

me either

Yeah, U will be the "last" person on Earth , NOT TO KNOW, him.:naughty::naughty::naughty::lol::lol::lol::lol:

[Heroo]

Welcome Back :)

[DefX]

That DP stays since he's been an aloof bastard as of late.

And he creates a thread to announce his return. The nerve of this guy. :dry:

[DV8type]

:cheers:

[Niteghost]

Yeah, who the hell is this idiot?

[_coder_]

Yeah, who the hell is this idiot?

;)

[mievmo]

Wellcome back pal... how was ur trip..

[Something Else]

don't mess with SHUVT he'll eat you alive.....

[markupmaster]

Hi,I didn't really know you and I haven't made that many posts here but I have seen a lot of your posts and I know that you have a pretty good rep here. So I guess I'm glad that you're back.

[SHUVT]

Well thanks for the kind and not so kind comments all. Wouldn't be FST without a good mix of opinions. Hope everyone had a good summer and did not get into trouble. I will check in a every once in a while to see whats up over here.

[th0r]

Yeah, who the hell is this idiot?

i like you

[Hairbautt]

Think it's about time for that DP to be taken off.
orly?
What's this got to do with BT? (I mean the return of SHUVT) :huh:

Is he Bram Cohen or something? Or a site acronym?

[kapowcowpwned]

Think it's about time for that DP to be taken off.

good luck with that lol

[rapesauce10]

orly?
What's this got to do with BT? (I mean the return of SHUVT) :huh:

Is he Bram Cohen or something? Or a site acronym?

Second coming of Jesus.

[Brenya]

What the hell is a DP and a WB?
Death Penalty, Welcome back?

[Alco23]

What the hell is a DP and a WB?
Death Penalty, Welcome back?

You got WB right.

DP = well....

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DP

from that list SHUVT's getting this DP <Removed.>. :P

For DP defined by FST look under SHUVT's name...

[Torrent_Geek]

DP = Disabled privileges

[enoughfakefiles]

I've tried and tried, but i still don't understand this thread. Even by the lounge standards :blink:

[Snee]

It started off in the Bittorrent section. Sounded just as stupid in there, though.

[Mr JP Fugley]

There's a member called rapesauce10 and another who describes his location as United States of Analsex.

Why do you expect, fucking Shakespeare.

[Y@KUZA]

Welcome Back Shuvt U Rock !!!

[Mr JP Fugley]

Well said Y.

Why should you be like all the rest of the sheep, swimming with the herd.

[Hairbautt]

There's a member called rapesauce10...
He's the one who told me about Jesus...I didn't care to actually read his name. :mellow:

[Mr JP Fugley]

There's a member called rapesauce10...
He's the one who told me about Jesus...:mellow: I didn't care to actually read his name.

What did he tell you.

[Hairbautt]

What's this got to do with BT? (I mean the return of SHUVT) :huh:

Is he Bram Cohen or something? Or a site acronym?

Second coming of Jesus.
^

[Mr JP Fugley]

Oh right.

I think he made that up.

[Hairbautt]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v383/Hairbautt/Smilies/Thinking.gif It left me thinking...

[Mr JP Fugley]

It's all good then.

Maybe that's what she meant to happen.

[Hairbautt]

Curious...what religion are you or should I even ask?

I was raised Catholic but never went through confirmation and kinda declared myself agnostic (not atheist, ffs...my sister thinks they're the same :angry:)

[Mr JP Fugley]

No, ask away. I'm a Catholic.

So are you a Catholic Agnostic or a Protestant Agnostic.

[Snee]

Are you an irish scot?

[Mr JP Fugley]

My Grandparents were all Irish.

[Hairbautt]

No, ask away. I'm a Catholic.

So are you a Catholic Agnostic or a Protestant Agnostic.
Catholic Agnostic. I'd of thought it'd be obvious. :snooty:

[Proper Bo]

My Grandparents were all Irish.

So are mine, except three of them.

edit: "are", they're still alive:pinch:

[Agrajag]

No, ask away. I'm a Catholic.

So are you a Catholic Agnostic or a Protestant Agnostic.
Catholic Agnostic. I'd of thought it'd be obvious. :snooty:

So you're not convinced that the true God exists, rather than a false one.

[Hairbautt]

:rolleyes:

[Something Else]

So a bit of a Rangers-Celtic divide here eh?

[thewizeard]

Ffs, Stfu Shuvt...

[bunny67]

:Dwb shuvt

[Brenya]

Curious...what religion are you or should I even ask?

I was raised Catholic but never went through confirmation and kinda declared myself agnostic (not atheist, ffs...my sister thinks they're the same :angry:)

Atheist: "A person whose worldview embraces Atheism [noun] [OW]. The natural condition of all humans at birth and prior to indoctrination in or self-invention of Theism. Atheists claim there is no proof for God[s]. "Strong" Atheists claim God does not exist. "Weak" Atheists do not deny the possibility of God[s], or that proof might eventually be discovered" (Cite (http://members.aol.com/porchnus/dict01.htm)).

My bet is you are a "weak" Atheist, a euphemism of which is Agnostic :yup:.

[Hairbautt]

That's got to be the most idiotic definition that I've ever heard. I'm glad you cited the source to a Member's AOL page of their Fundie Dictionary.

[Snee]

That seems a dodgy dictionary

AFAIK, the term atheist comes from greek, and means lacking god or some such, it is used to indicate that someone doesn't believe in, or denies, the existence of god.

The term agnostic is more recent, a bit under a century and a half old, and denotes that someone doesn't believe that it is possible to prove, or know, whether god does, or doesn't exist. More recently some people who believe it's not possible to prove anything about the subject now also call themselves agnostic. The wait-and-see approach, in other words. I'd certainly not call it a euphemism for the word "atheist".

One's about denying that god exists or believing that god doesn't exist, the other's about thinking it can't be proven either way.

[Hairbautt]

Robert Ingersoll is the one who brought the word 'agnostic' to general usage in 1863 after the U.S. Civil War.

Read that in Rebecca Edwards' New Spirits: Americans in the Gilded Age 1865-1905. :smilie4:

[Snee]

He brought it to general usage six years before it was coined by Huxley?

Fooking ace work, that.

[Hairbautt]

"...Union veteran Robert Ingersoll, who in 1863 had declined to reenlist because he could "bear no more bloodshed and mutilation," became the country's most prominent agnostic, a word that entered general usage after the war. Immense crowds flocked to hear Ingersoll hail Union victory and question the existence of God."

Rebecca Edwards' New Spirits: Americans in the Gilded Age 1865-1905.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agnosticism#Robert_G._Ingersoll

Not directly after 1863 then, but certainly in the near future (1896 in the U.S.)

[Snee]

Yeah, he refused to enlist in 1863, the word saw general usage first some time after the war, which lasted until 1865 :dabs: Presumably, since Huxley coined it in 1869, Ingersoll must have brought it to America, like, some time after that then*.

Glad we sorted that out :dabs:

FFS, you're supposed to be the american here :pinch:

EDit: *assuming it was him, neither your link, nor your quote says that.

[Hairbautt]

Memory must be shot. I'm glad I got the number right, at least (the year when he declined).

[Snee]

Memory must be shot.
Either that or it it would have been confusing as fuck for Huxley.

[Hairbautt]

EDit: *assuming it was him, neither your link, nor your quote says that.
Fuck. You're right. I'm reading too much into it, but the Wiki article has'em labeled as the Great Agnostic (:lol:).

Currently having to view the 1850 Greene Co., TN Census (http://www.census-online.com/transcript/tn/greene/) which is shit, IMO. Gonna have to write 1000 words on what it tells me. I've never done this before :dabs: Lousy essay topic...

[Mr JP Fugley]

Curious...what religion are you or should I even ask?

I was raised Catholic but never went through confirmation and kinda declared myself agnostic (not atheist, ffs...my sister thinks they're the same :angry:)

Atheist: "A person whose worldview embraces Atheism [noun] [OW]. The natural condition of all humans at birth and prior to indoctrination in or self-invention of Theism. Atheists claim there is no proof for God[s]. "Strong" Atheists claim God does not exist. "Weak" Atheists do not deny the possibility of God[s], or that proof might eventually be discovered" (Cite (http://members.aol.com/porchnus/dict01.htm)).

My bet is you are a "weak" Atheist, a euphemism of which is Agnostic :yup:.


These questions frequently constitute the opening salvo from Fundies when they enter an Atheist chatroom. It is amazing to see how many of them really do not know the meaning of the words Atheist and myth. But after listening to them for a few minutes it becomes evident that they do not know the meanings of many words which come up frequently in their preachments. This may be due to the fact that their religious beliefs are formed by rote and not through critical thought.

This webpage might have been called a dictionary for dummies, but such a title might already be in use. Suffice it to say that this compilation is for those who have not yet learned to avoid asking stupid questions by first availing themselves of standard reference works. It makes no attempt at or claim for completeness because the ingenuity of Fundie ignorance would require the full time of a staff of wordsmiths in pursuit of the trivial, vulgar and profane use of language.

A number of honorable words are included here. Hotlinks are provided to take the reader to substantial information on those topics. Readers are invited and encouraged to submit additional words, terms or phrases for possible inclusion here.

Look, behind you. Someone standing behind an idiot.

[Snee]

EDit: *assuming it was him, neither your link, nor your quote says that.
Fuck. You're right. I'm reading too much into it, but the Wiki article has'em labeled as the Great Agnostic (:lol:).

Currently having to view the 1850 Greene Co., TN Census (http://www.census-online.com/transcript/tn/greene/) which is shit, IMO. Gonna have to write 1000 words on what it tells me. I've never done this before :dabs: Lousy essay topic...

There's lots of stuff you could work with, especially if you compare it with something else, I bet, ie: People must have died younger on average than today. Lots of people couldn't read or write. Compared to a more current census the numbers look like shit. Etc etc.

Just do some averages and shit, make up few theories or list things that explain why things are different from today.

Or just hit it from the racial angle, as it only lists free people, or at least separates them from others (only looked at a couple of pages).

Really large families here and there.

[Brenya]

Ok then, make fun of my source will you!? Here are other sites that describe the terms weak and strong atheism:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weak_atheism
http://atheism.about.com/od/atheismquestions/a/strong_weak.htm
It just takes a little googling.

Weak Atheism and Agnosticism are two ways of saying the same thing.. So your sister's opinion is not completely false.
Then again I'm just dabbling in semantics. Call yourself what you wish, Hairbautt.

[Snee]

Yeah, those are much better sources.


The strong and weak names did not come into common usage until the early 1990s, their popularization assisted by their common usage in the alt.atheism Usenet group at the time. While the terms themselves are relatively recent, the concepts they represent have been in use for some time. In earlier philosophical publications, the terms negative atheism and positive atheism were more common; these terms were used by Antony Flew in 1972, although Jacques Maritain used the phrases in a similar, but strictly Catholic apologist, context as early as 1949.[3]

This would mean that people were either agnostics or atheists, for eighty years or so, then a couple of geniouses decided to alter the definition, which btw isn't something everyone agrees with, as seen in this thread. Not to mention that that appears to miss the point about agnosticism, i.e. the impossibility of knowing whether there is or isn't a god, as opposed to atheism, which more directly treats the (non-) existence of a god.

I especially like the bit in bold. Do you know what sort of people have access to the internets, and within that usenet, today? It's no wonder if they don't know how to use a word properly, like.