Section For Adults

[thewizeard]

Some of the issues that are discussed here on the forum can be for some, quite distressing. Is it possible to create a section special for more sensitive issues. A section where of course the general rules of the forum are adhered too. Such as respect for others peoples standpoints. A section where under 18's are not admissible. One of the arguments I heard earlier was that people where getting upset. The sort of section that I am thinking about would not be the place for those people. Its just an idea at the moment.

[[B][O][T]]

You could make one Forum password protected and if You would like to have access to the "Adult" section You have to PM a Moderator about the password.

BOT

[jetje]

Well how we gonna verify the age??? any ideas on that?

[[B][O][T]]

Well that's not possible though....
If anybody under 18 (or whatever) still want access to the Forum, why not?

BOT

[thewizeard]

Originally posted by jetje@5 July 2003 - 01:21
Well how we gonna verify the age??? any ideas on that?
I am not sure about that yet. I will sleep on it! Maybe other members have some suggestions?

[porkshit]

Originally posted by [B][O][T]@4 July 2003 - 20:13
You could make one Forum password protected and if You would like to have access to the "Adult" section You have to PM a Moderator about the password.

BOT
i like that idea, sounds good to me...

[kAb]

Originally posted by jetje@4 July 2003 - 17:21
Well how we gonna verify the age??? any ideas on that?
there is no verification, just release yourself from liabiliy with a long disclaimer :rolleyes: ;)

[RPerry]

Originally posted by kAb+5 July 2003 - 03:45--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (kAb @ 5 July 2003 - 03:45)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-jetje@4 July 2003 - 17:21
Well how we gonna verify the age??? any ideas on that?
there is no verification, just release yourself from liabiliy with a long disclaimer :rolleyes: ;) [/b][/quote]
That seems like a good idea B)

[jetje]

Some of the issues that are discussed here on the forum can be for some, quite distressing. Is it possible to create a section special for more sensitive issues. A section where of course the general rules of the forum are adhered too. Such as respect for others peoples standpoints. A section where under 18&#39;s are not admissible.

well with a disclaimer we don&#39;t get what the 1st poster tried to do, seperate, the youngsters..&#33;
If it&#39;s just a disclaimer what would that ad to the seperate forum we have now in the lounge :blink:

"Slechs vir oldies only" ? :blink:

[denis123]

Originally posted by [B][O][T]@5 July 2003 - 01:13
You could make one Forum password protected and if You would like to have access to the "Adult" section You have to PM a Moderator about the password.

BOT
This idea from BOT was a good idea and the password could be given with the discretion of the moderator.

[ghost944]

it is the guest room that gets out of hand the most because thats where most of the immature kids hang out

[thewizeard]

I was really trying to look for a way where discussions could carry on without them getting locked and with als little moderation(from the moderators)as possible. A place where people, who get upset about sensitive issues, know they can better avoid.

Many of the youngster are in fact just as rational and serious as the mature members.

[callum]

Originally posted by nigel123@5 July 2003 - 01:51
Some of the issues that are discussed here on the forum can be for some, quite distressing. Is it possible to create a section special for more sensitive issues. A section where of course the general rules of the forum are adhered too. Such as respect for others peoples standpoints. A section where under 18&#39;s are not admissible. One of the arguments I heard earlier was that people where getting upset. The sort of section that I am thinking about would not be the place for those people. Its just an idea at the moment.
What about our 17 year old mod.

[denis123]

I think the age problem has already been shot down in flames by by Jetje. The moderators have obviously been chosen because of the way they conduct themselves on the board. I think Nigel123 realises that in his last post.

Quote: " Many of the youngsters are just as rational and serious as the mature members." unquote.

It would not be desirable to let everyone prove ther identity and age, for very obvious reasons. So then entry, to the adult forum, would have to be left to the discretion of the moderators. Then it will not be so difficult to choose who do and who do not gain entry; their postings in the past are available for all to see.

In my view I like the idea of a forum where one can speak and not hear people calling for the moderators to lock the topic because "other people could get hurt" or for sensitive religious reasons. You will still be bound by the general rules of the forum. If you insult members you will have to leave. etc. etc.

Finally if the Administration do decide to create the adult room and an age limit of 18 years is set, then there is still a job for the 17 year old moderator to do; he can hold the key (password) and make the coffee&#33;&#33;

[2nd gen noob]

Originally posted by callum+6 July 2003 - 03:40--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (callum @ 6 July 2003 - 03:40)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-nigel123@5 July 2003 - 01:51
Some of the issues that are discussed here on the forum can be for some, quite distressing. Is it possible to create a section special for more sensitive issues. A section where of course the general rules of the forum are adhered too. Such as respect for others peoples standpoints. A section where under 18&#39;s are not admissible. One of the arguments I heard earlier was that people where getting upset. The sort of section that I am thinking about would not be the place for those people. Its just an idea at the moment.
What about our 17 year old mod. [/b][/quote]
out 17 year old mod will not be 17 forever, in 10 days he will be 18

http://www.klboard.ath.cx/bb/index.php?showuser=7601

[N£MO]

Originally posted by 2nd gen noob+6 July 2003 - 08:21--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (2nd gen noob @ 6 July 2003 - 08:21)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
Originally posted by callum@6 July 2003 - 03:40
<!--QuoteBegin-nigel123@5 July 2003 - 01:51
Some of the issues that are discussed here on the forum can be for some, quite distressing. Is it possible to create a section special for more sensitive issues. A section where of course the general rules of the forum are adhered too. Such as respect for others peoples standpoints. A section where under 18&#39;s are not admissible. One of the arguments I heard earlier was that people where getting upset. The sort of section that I am thinking about would not be the place for those people. Its just an idea at the moment.
What about our 17 year old mod.
out 17 year old mod will not be 17 forever, in 10 days he will be 18

http://www.klboard.ath.cx/bb/index.php?showuser=7601 [/b][/quote]
Oh hip hip hooray,boy mod into man mod..lets have a party :D :lol:

[N£MO]

Originally posted by 2nd gen noob+6 July 2003 - 08:21--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (2nd gen noob @ 6 July 2003 - 08:21)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
Originally posted by callum@6 July 2003 - 03:40
<!--QuoteBegin-nigel123@5 July 2003 - 01:51
Some of the issues that are discussed here on the forum can be for some, quite distressing. Is it possible to create a section special for more sensitive issues. A section where of course the general rules of the forum are adhered too. Such as respect for others peoples standpoints. A section where under 18&#39;s are not admissible. One of the arguments I heard earlier was that people where getting upset. The sort of section that I am thinking about would not be the place for those people. Its just an idea at the moment.
What about our 17 year old mod.
out 17 year old mod will not be 17 forever, in 10 days he will be 18

http://www.klboard.ath.cx/bb/index.php?showuser=7601 [/b][/quote]
Surely that should have been &#39;our 17 year old mod&#39;...got you :P :lol: :lol:

[monkeyhead]

Well how we gonna verify the age???
by putting a warnin before any1 enters statin this area is sutible for over 18s
Then the users will enter by acknoledgin the fact its sutible for them

[brotherdoobie]

Originally posted by callum+5 July 2003 - 21:40--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (callum @ 5 July 2003 - 21:40)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-nigel123@5 July 2003 - 01:51
Some of the issues that are discussed here on the forum can be for some, quite distressing. Is it possible to create a section special for more sensitive issues. A section where of course the general rules of the forum are adhered too. Such as respect for others peoples standpoints. A section where under 18&#39;s are not admissible. One of the arguments I heard earlier was that people where getting upset. The sort of section that I am thinking about would not be the place for those people. Its just an idea at the moment.
What about our 17 year old mod. [/b][/quote]
The "boy" will get over it ;)




Peace brotherdoobie

[Rat Faced]

I think we have enough sections/forums for now.

I dont think that a filesharing board is the place to discuss the type of subject your refering too.

80% of communication is through body language. Obviously this part of communication is missing in this type of forum, and so we see people taking offence very easily on posts that were not meant to be offensive in any way.

Although smillies help in general, they are considered by some to demean serious discussion...so there is a no win situation before any debate starts.

Although in favour of serious debate, if they become emotive enough, then you require trained facilitators or councellors, not Mods...in order to let them run.


To my knowledge there has only been two topics n the last 6 months that were closed because people were upset enough (not angry, upset) to PM Mods, sometimes in tears....the "Hunting" topic in the Lounge, and the "Abortion" topic in the serious debate forum.

The "Abortion" thread is still under consultation, and may be re-opened, or may remain closed (I assume this is what started this thread)


Yes, others have been closed because they became flame threads...Im talking about subjects people were literally too upset to post on.


Im not a Facilitator or Councellor, and dont think any of the other MODS are.

[thewizeard]

Originally posted by Rat Faced@6 July 2003 - 11:59


The "Abortion" thread is still under consultation, and may be re-opened, or may remain closed (I assume this is what started this thread)



Hello Rat Faced, thanks for your reply.

This is indeed the main reason for this idea. The Christian download one, was another. I was trying to search for a way where serious discussion/debate could carry on without some of the posts that often distract from the topic and to protect members from getting hurt.

Actually there is no real need to create a new section/forum, one already exists, it could be entered with a password according to BOT. Many of the topics posted there have nothing whatsoever to do with filesharing. I am equally sure you wish to keep it.

I will leave it at that, you(read moderators) and the members decide ultimately the future of the Forum, not I. Perhaps you could put this idea to a poll?

Nigel

[Rat Faced]

I dont want to restrict any part of the Forum with passwords etc...and we did say that the area was for "Serious" debate, generally it stays that way, and we are appreciative of the low level of Spam in the area.


Neither do i wish to delete specific posts...this would be tantamount to "censorship" on the board, and we could be accused of bias etc. if we did this on a regular basis.

So we close the topic, but leave it there...hoping that most people will see why it was closed...maybe leaving a message as to why, if its not obvious.


Its a very delicate situation, whichever way we finally go...and i can gaurantee only one thing...not everyone will be happy.



At the end of the day, im glad it isnt my decision...

[denis123]

Originally posted by Rat Faced@6 July 2003 - 11:59


80% of communication is through body language. Obviously this part of communication is missing in this type of forum, and so we see people taking offence very easily on posts that were not meant to be offensive in any way.

Although smillies help in general, they are considered by some to demean serious discussion...so there is a no win situation before any debate starts
Hello Rat Faced, What you said gave me this idea&#33;&#33;&#33;


Why not introduce a webcam forum, you can see each other and hear each other&#33;&#33;&#33; The problem of body language is solved and a brand new dimension for our Forum is created.

It would of course mean that some of our male members would have to tear themselves away from the forum, to have a shave, now and then&#33;

[Lamsey]

You can tell my general demeanour from my avatar, which is a picture of me.


This suggests that I&#39;m always a smug-looking bar steward ---&#62; true&#33;

[scribblec]

i dont think it should be age verified
i think it should be your own choice
easily offended - bugger off
simple as
i for one isnt easily shocked by porn death etc

[denis123]

It&#39;s a good foto/avatar Lamsey, not at all like the last foto. In fact a different person.

What is your opinion of a live webcam, possibly in the position of the avatar. Is it technically possible to realise?

[Lamsey]

Originally posted by denis123@7 July 2003 - 19:29
It&#39;s a good foto/avatar Lamsey, not at all like the last foto. In fact a different person.

What is your opinion of a live webcam, possibly in the position of the avatar. Is it technically possible to realise?
Nope. There&#39;s already too much traffic flying through here&#33;

And it&#39;s still me, just post-haircut.

[Wolfmight]

legal age is a problem on the internet.. People are basicly any age they want to be online.. Hell like a kid could be over 18, or an old man could say he&#39;s 20.. lol it&#39;s crazy

[(¯`·._.·[Rob]·._.·´¯)]

Lamsey im not trying to dis you or ne thing this is just a Question ,, do you only have one eye brow

[Lamsey]

Originally posted by robbie2@7 July 2003 - 20:29
Lamsey im not trying to dis you or ne thing this is just a Question ,, do you only have one eye brow
Yes, I have one eyebrow.

What does this have to do with anything?

[kAb]

i would love a "serious debate" section, where nobody would go crying to admins and mods :angry:

i&#39;m sick of seeing controversial topics closed because someone started whining <_<

[(¯`·._.·[Rob]·._.·´¯)]

Originally posted by Lamsey+7 July 2003 - 19:36--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Lamsey @ 7 July 2003 - 19:36)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-robbie2@7 July 2003 - 20:29
Lamsey im not trying to dis you or ne thing this is just a Question ,, do you only have one eye brow
Yes, I have one eyebrow.

What does this have to do with anything? [/b][/quote]
its got nothing to do with ne thing , i was just wondering why dont you shave it or some thing , if this is going of topic i might make a topic about your eyebrow in the Lounge if you want lol:D

[Lamsey]

Originally posted by robbie2@7 July 2003 - 20:58
its got nothing to do with ne thing , i was just wondering why dont you shave it or some thing , if this is going of topic i might make a topic about your eyebrow in the Lounge if you want lol:D
I suggest you look in the lounge now. :rolleyes:

And stop spamming&#33;
:spam:

[3RA1N1AC]

make it against the forum rules to register any member name related to the matrix, dragon ball z or marijuana, and that should immediately raise the maturity level. :P

[Lamsey]

Or names that include h4x0r spelling ;)

[3RA1N1AC]

no way. H4X0RZ 5P3LL1N6 is ironic and humorous. ;)

[thewizeard]

Originally posted by kAb@7 July 2003 - 19:47
i would love a "serious debate" section, where nobody would go crying to admins and mods&nbsp; :angry:

i&#39;m sick of seeing controversial topics closed because someone started whining&nbsp; <_<
I feel that there is a demand for such a " serious debate" section.

I also like the idea of a webcam forum; perhaps by incorporating "net meeting" or messenger.

May we poll the members for their opinion?

[Rat Faced]

The subject that started this entire thread off has been re-opened.

It was closed while we consulted one another..however it will be closely monitored.

[MagicNakor]

There already is a forum for serious debate on this board. We don&#39;t advertise it because you have to be stunningly condescending to be admitted entrance.

:ninja:

[thewizeard]

Originally posted by Rat Faced@7 July 2003 - 22:17
The subject that started this entire thread off has been re-opened.

It was closed while we consulted one another..however it will be closely monitored.
That is a wise decision. A step in the right direction, however there are many more steps to follow. I realise that the distance is to great to jump in one go.

You point out that you will be closely monitoring it and possibly even go so far as to delete parts of it. That is what many want less of. We are not home yet.

In Holland they say "We have to row with the oars that we have." That is applicable in this case but I would still wish to see an adult section created with a "log in" requirment.

[Lamsey]

Originally posted by nigel123+7 July 2003 - 23:53--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (nigel123 @ 7 July 2003 - 23:53)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Rat Faced@7 July 2003 - 22:17
The subject that started this entire thread off has been re-opened.

It was closed while we consulted one another..however it will be closely monitored.
That is a wise decision. A step in the right direction, however there are many more steps to follow. I realise that the distance is to great to jump in one go.

You point out that you will be closely monitoring it and possibly even go so far as to delete parts of it. That is what many want less of. We are not home yet.

In Holland they say "We have to row with the oars that we have." That is applicable in this case but I would still wish to see an adult section created with a "log in" requirment. [/b][/quote]
Read this. (http://www.klboard.ath.cx/bb/index.php?showtopic=49657&st=15&#entry360748)

[kAb]

Originally posted by 3RA1N1AC@7 July 2003 - 12:21
no way. H4X0RZ 5P3LL1N6 is ironic and humorous. ;)
not when you do it incorrectly :rolleyes:

[Ad]

Your kidding

[Keikan]

Don&#39;t tell me your gonna ask people for they&#39;re credit card numbers :ph34r:

[3RA1N1AC]

Originally posted by kAb@7 July 2003 - 17:19
not when you do it incorrectly :rolleyes:
1 D1546R33.

[kAb]

Originally posted by 3RA1N1AC+7 July 2003 - 18:34--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (3RA1N1AC @ 7 July 2003 - 18:34)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-kAb@7 July 2003 - 17:19
not when you do it incorrectly&nbsp; :rolleyes:
1 D1546R33. [/b][/quote]
3 is E, 8 is B

therefore your name spells in english erainiac

so i have no idea wtf that means.. :rolleyes:

[Ad]

wtf :huh:

[chalkmongoose]

Just do what Thawte does. Ask people to have their age verified with two or three notary public. They&#39;ll look at two or three of your pieces of idenification (like birth certificate) and then give the ok...

[theprisoner]

lol-sure,their goin to waste are time checking birth certificates to make sure 10 year olds dont get in&#33; Its not worth joining a board if you have to give private info over the internet(especially to a p2p).

[thewizeard]

Originally posted by Lamsey@7 July 2003 - 23:22
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Read this. (http://www.klboard.ath.cx/bb/index.php?showtopic=49657&st=15&#entry360748)
[QUOTE=Lamsey,7 July 2003 - 23:22]
Now I don&#39;t think you understand at all Lamsey. This is exactlly one of the reasons for an ADULT section. This person wouldn&#39;t make it into the adult section. And if he /she did, it would not lead to the damping down of the flames.

The idea is that the moderation begins (and ends)before one enters.

My comment to Insanity was no critic, but a statement of fact; people had listened and the topic was reopened, to get him, back on board.

What about the poll idea.

[Lamsey]

If you want to start a protected, adult discussion forum then feel free to go to http://www.invisionfree.com and start your own, then put a link in your sig.

We, the mods, do not have time to watch such a forum night and day while still dealing with the rest of the board. The majority of the community must come first and it has to be said that the vast majority of people are happy with the current setup.


A wise man once said "The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few... or the one."



Oh wait, that was Spock wasn&#39;t it? :rolleyes:

[denis123]

I am sure Spock is a wise man? Isn&#39;t he?

[thewizeard]

Originally posted by Lamsey@8 July 2003 - 09:19


The majority of the community must come first and it has to be said that the vast majority of people are happy with the current setup.



Are you sure?

You did not give an answer over holding a poll&#33;

Who is Spock now?

[Lamsey]

Originally posted by denis123@8 July 2003 - 10:38
I am sure Spock is a wise man? Isn&#39;t he?
Wise alien, surely.


@nigel: We don&#39;t need a poll, we watch the World News forum closely enough to know.

And Spock is a character in Star Trek - I believe the quote is from one of the movies.

[Barbarossa]

Originally posted by Lamsey@8 July 2003 - 10:03
And Spock is a character in Star Trek - I believe the quote is from one of the movies.
Most famously from Star Trek II - The Wrath of Khan..

[jetje]

Originally posted by kAb@7 July 2003 - 21:47
i would love a "serious debate" section, where nobody would go crying to admins and mods&nbsp; :angry:

i&#39;m sick of seeing controversial topics closed because someone started whining&nbsp; <_<
Wel kAb, isn&#39;t it a bit egoistic and short sighted to say something like this.. <_<

This is a main stream board, dedicated to filesharing. we have a lot of spin off things like the debate corner. But those are here for peoples convenience and fun.
If only one person felt bad about those "silly debates", i feel more sorry for him/her then about you not be able to continue the "chit chat" about it&#33;

just my opinion&#33;


edit typo

[thewizeard]

Originally posted by Lamsey@8 July 2003 - 09:19
If you want to start a protected, adult discussion forum then feel free to go to http://www.invisionfree.com and start your own, then put a link in your sig.

We, the mods, do not have time to watch such a forum night and day while still dealing with the rest of the board. The majority of the community must come first and it has to be said that the vast majority of people are happy with the current setup.


A wise man once said "The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few... or the one."



Oh wait, that was Spock wasn&#39;t it? :rolleyes:
Thank you Lamsey&#33;

I have done what you suggested.
I have already opened the account and have been working hard on it.

All I can say at the moment is that it&#39;s progressing.

The Free Speech Forum is on its way.

Nigel

[The Knife Thrower]

All this bullshit was caused by me. I think I subconsciously created the first topic to cause trouble. Or maybe not.

[OcramC]

Originally posted by nigel123@5 July 2003 - 11:54
I was really trying to look for a way where discussions could carry on without them getting locked and with als little moderation(from the moderators)as possible. A place where people, who get upset about sensitive issues, know they can better avoid.

Many of the youngster are in fact just as rational and serious as the mature members.
what about immature adults?

[3RA1N1AC]

Originally posted by kAb@7 July 2003 - 19:09
3 is E, 8 is B

therefore your name spells in english erainiac

so i have no idea wtf that means.. :rolleyes:
who made you the authority on 1_EE7 H4><00RZ S9E1_1_INGZ?

[thewizeard]

Originally posted by OcramC+11 July 2003 - 21:43--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (OcramC &#064; 11 July 2003 - 21:43)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteBegin-nigel123@5 July 2003 - 11:54
I was really trying to look for a way where discussions could carry on without them getting locked and with als little moderation(from the moderators)as possible. A place where people, who get upset about sensitive issues, know they can better avoid.

Many of the youngster are in fact just as rational and serious as the mature members.
what about immature adults?[/b][/quote]


That is what this topic is(was) all about.

[Celerystalksme]

wtf??