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Brenya
09-08-2007, 05:23 AM
My intuition says "no, of course not! what are you, a dumbass!?" Anyone with half a brain can realize that it leads to potential cheating. On one account, you could mainly download stuff, just barely maintaining the minimum ratio requirement. And on the other account, you can seed all of the torrents that you previously downloaded with the first account - thereby easily attaining power user status.

However, I cannot help but notice the problems that arise out of not allowing this. What about huge LANs, such as colleges and universities. To the WAN, each computer in the LAN has the same IP address. So would a private tracker only allow one account per LAN?

If this is to prevent users on smaller LANs from sharing their torrents with each other and in effect cheating the ratio system, couldn't you just as easily share torrents with your neighbor, or you friend from another neighborhood? So that isn't very effective.

On the other hand, there could be a way for private trackers to both allow accounts to share the same IP address by monitoring the accounts closely for things like seeding torrents that wasn't downloaded by that account.


Did I just answer my own question, or is there still more to this that I haven't realized?

whiteboy
09-08-2007, 05:31 AM
Me and a buddy have a seedbox. We both seed to all the same sites and have never had a problem.

splash
09-08-2007, 05:34 AM
Multiple accounts of the same IP are usually NEVER allowed. That as you say would be considered cheating as having multiple accounts is against the rules.

Also, this should be in the Bittorrent section not the Bittorrent invites section.

RaPPeR
09-08-2007, 05:47 AM
On one account, you could mainly download stuff, just barely maintaining the minimum ratio requirement. And on the other account, you can seed all of the torrents that you previously downloaded with the first account - thereby easily attaining power user status.
That kinda shit you can do with 2 tracker . from the first one, that you care less , you dl , and from the second one , you upload .
this is what alot of ppls do.

splash
09-08-2007, 05:52 AM
On one account, you could mainly download stuff, just barely maintaining the minimum ratio requirement. And on the other account, you can seed all of the torrents that you previously downloaded with the first account - thereby easily attaining power user status.
That kinda shit you can do with 2 tracker . from the first one, that you care less , you dl , and from the second one , you upload .
this is what alot of ppls do.

Exactly. :)

Brenya
09-08-2007, 06:02 AM
Yeah many files from private trackers I have found to be on demonoid and such.
And posting in the invites sections was a bad move on my part - oops.


Me and a buddy have a seedbox. We both seed to all the same sites and have never had a problem.
I'm confused.. can you clarify? Are you talking about 3 accounts, two accounts, or just 1.


Multiple accounts of the same IP are usually NEVER allowed. That as you say would be considered cheating as having multiple accounts is against the rules.

Then why can I not explicitly find a rule stating that in any of the private trackers I belong to?

splash
09-08-2007, 06:15 AM
Look harder. If it doesnt say ask the staff. They will tell you it's against the rules.

I promise you, multiple accounts is an easy way to get a ban. Some sites even protect against this and if you are trying to signup again from the same ip it wont allow you to do so.

greymatter
09-08-2007, 06:27 AM
My friend and i many times logged into trackers from my comp, i mean from the same ip. Bt nothing happened except for one, ie iplay. My account was disabled and his survived. lol

Even the biggest tv tracker (don't want to mention name here) has no probs logging from the same ip till now. But what i guess is, the fact that we aren't cheating and just logging into 2 accounts using the same ip will not get it deleted. I guess, no tracker allows using multiple accounts from the same ip, the system delets it automatically in some trackers like TL. There are also some technical explanations only a mod or admn can provide, as there are some things like there is some particular period for which a tracker keeps the same ip in some trackers.

In one word, you can't use 2 accounts from the same ip cause you are cheating the tracker. Then why such a long proxy check when you sign up?

sperm
09-08-2007, 08:45 AM
oink allows more than 1 account on the same ip



Can I invite my friend to the site, who is on the same IP as me?

Sure. Be warned though, if either you or your friend get into ratio trouble (or cheat), the other's account will fall under heavy suspicion. As long as both of you are careful to abide by our ratio rules and to not cheat, both of you should be able to use your account with no problems.

splash
09-08-2007, 09:07 AM
oink allows more than 1 account on the same ip



Can I invite my friend to the site, who is on the same IP as me?

Sure. Be warned though, if either you or your friend get into ratio trouble (or cheat), the other's account will fall under heavy suspicion. As long as both of you are careful to abide by our ratio rules and to not cheat, both of you should be able to use your account with no problems.


That is also supposed to be a 'friend'. Not yourself. It doesnt say its allowed to have more than one account yourself.

punki_rach
09-08-2007, 09:24 AM
I think accounts with the same IP are ok so long as you don't download the same torrents at the same time.

But I doubt many trackers let you have two accounts but I guess it's kinda hard to tell whether it's you with two accounts or just two different people.

bblogs
09-08-2007, 09:31 AM
When I used to trade a lot, I had 2 accounts of a lot of stuff.....I was logged into 2 different accounts at the same time, 1 in Firefox and the other in Explorer.

That includes Oink, iPlay, bitmetv......not just demonoid :)

Never had any trouble at all

greymatter
09-08-2007, 10:29 AM
I think accounts with the same IP are ok so long as you don't download the same torrents at the same time.



lol, And what does that mean?

blackbird
09-08-2007, 10:32 AM
oink is ok with that .. but if you get one account disabled , you will get your other account disabled too

traderman
09-08-2007, 11:34 AM
Yep to blackbirds words.
It depens on which account we are talkning.
I use to say. Stick to one account it is the safest

traderman

punki_rach
09-08-2007, 11:49 AM
I think accounts with the same IP are ok so long as you don't download the same torrents at the same time.



lol, And what does that mean?

I meant if two peope had accounts with the same IP they wouldn't run into any problems unless they both tried downloading the same torrent.

Dunno if it's true, I just read it in the bitmetv forum

raj3186
09-08-2007, 12:12 PM
I never create dupe accounts!!!!!!!! and also , i will never create a dupe account and get by accounts banned!!!!!!

wildbytes
09-08-2007, 02:32 PM
Well on wb if you and your buddy share a seeding server like many do then you need to pm a staff member as 1 of our scripts will pick you up and your but gets banned. If you let staff know then we can note it in the file incase you do get picked up by one of our many scripts. But in most cases this will get you banned on alot of sites, as it shows you with dupe accounts. This also goes for the people that have room mates and have more then 1 computer accessing the site with different usernames. If you dont let us or other sites know then in most cases ends up in a killed account.





Wild

dcliffnotes
09-08-2007, 03:29 PM
thats true what wild is saying. i for one almost got in trouble for that. i share rooms with my brother but we use two diff, computers but share one ip address using a router. i sent him an invite and when he tried to sign-up, the tracker said i was trying to make a dupe acct and that info would be sent to the mods. lucky, i didnt get banned or anything.

sperm
09-08-2007, 07:15 PM
oink allows more than 1 account on the same ip



That is also supposed to be a 'friend'. Not yourself. It doesnt say its allowed to have more than one account yourself.

no, it says your allowed multiple accounts on the same ip, and i dont believe oink will know whether its you or your friend.

*off topic*
i've read people boasting that they had lost their invites, got another invite and started afresh to gain invites... personally i dont want to go down that route, but others :angry:

pretty harsh on genuine users :(

*off topic*

:D

Brenya
09-08-2007, 08:53 PM
*off topic*
i've read people boasting that they had lost their invites, got another invite and started afresh to gain invites... personally i dont want to go down that route, but others :angry:

pretty harsh on genuine users :(

*off topic*

:D
:ermm: huh?

Kyl3KK
09-08-2007, 10:15 PM
I think you CAN have more than one account at OiNK, as long as you seed on both...

djkamikaze
09-09-2007, 01:00 AM
I know that the few sites that DO allow it are very cautious about it and will place you on a "watchlist" to monitor your activity to see if you are cheating your ratio by seeding form one account to the other.

Brenya
09-11-2007, 12:38 AM
Specifically, how do private trackers handle multiple users that access the networks through a University or College LAN? I'm sure they have Network Address Translation (NAT) on their routers..

Defy
09-11-2007, 01:05 AM
What I've had to do concerning my boyfriend and I (obviously living in the same house) is chat with an admin and notify them of the situation. So far the sites we belong to have been understanding and trust that what we're saying is true, which I'm very thankful for. We share most of our torrent accounts because there's simply no need for two! But there are a few we like to keep secret (ssshhh! don't tell him about my pr0n! lol j/k) for various reasons but we've had no problems with them.

tintin123
09-11-2007, 04:51 AM
same ip is fine as long as there is a legitimate reason!

if ur banned be honest

they hate multiple accounts for same user but if ur upping etc for a friend or something just be honest!