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Ambush333
07-05-2003, 06:42 AM
should i install windows xp on my computer.Please give me some advice.

{I}{K}{E}
07-05-2003, 07:30 AM
what hardware do you have?

sparsely
07-05-2003, 07:33 AM
You should install Windows XP
You should install Windows XP

{I}{K}{E}
07-05-2003, 07:34 AM
Originally posted by Sparsely@5 July 2003 - 09:33
You should install Windows XP
You should install Windows XP
you can do a XP 'readiness' test


Want to see if your computer is ready to run Windows XP? Take a minute to run our tests. You'll see how your computer stacks up against the minimum and recommended hardware specs. We'll also look for software that may not run properly under Windows XP.

LINK (http://www.pcpitstop.com/xpready/default.asp)

Rocktron
07-05-2003, 07:53 AM
Well i found XP a bit crappy on the Internet installation section.
Problems with connections, and problems before you finally get your connection to work.
And XP looks a bit childish to me, but hey.., maybe it's just me?

I couldn't get it to work the way i was used to.
And most of the problem questions on this forum are Win XP related. (*check that!)


That's my opinion.

Cl1mh4224rd
07-05-2003, 08:55 AM
The only things I can think of that WinXP has over Win2k are...
1) The "Command Prompt Here" PowerToy.
2) Much more useful sidebar in the folders.
3) Trillian Pro seems to load much faster.
4) Themes.
5) Able to read ID3 tags on MP3 files.

And #4 isn't really that big of a deal. I can live with the standard Windows look.

ghost944
07-05-2003, 09:17 AM
you should install xp if your ram ect.. is good enough

[B][O][T]
07-05-2003, 09:34 AM
I've a Pentium III ~800MHZ 512MB RAM
Windows XP Pro works great on this machine, I say go for it!

BOT

ObiWan
07-05-2003, 02:39 PM
IMO go for it however some older games dont work properly


And XP looks a bit childish to me, but hey.., maybe it's just me?

it does but you can always change to the "Classic theme"

Ambush333
07-05-2003, 05:21 PM
i have windows 2000 on my computer right now

Wolfmight
07-05-2003, 07:04 PM
old comps: try Windows ME
average comps (non gamer): try Windows 2000
fast comp.: try Windows XP PRO Corp Sp1 Intergrated

Ambush333
07-05-2003, 08:39 PM
i don't want windows me because it dosn't have any design

Ambush333
07-05-2003, 08:44 PM
i have a 550 MHZ computer

Ambush333
07-05-2003, 08:46 PM
I really like windows xp movie maker

[B][O][T]
07-05-2003, 08:46 PM
Windows ME :blink: no no

BOT

Ambush333
07-05-2003, 08:49 PM
but still ;)

Ambush333
07-05-2003, 08:55 PM
don't like windows 98 ;)

LTJBukem
07-05-2003, 09:00 PM
And most of the problem questions on this forum are Win XP related. (*check that!)

Probably because most users will have XP......

ghost944
07-05-2003, 09:07 PM
and if you dont like win xp you could always go back to the OS you have now.

Ambush333
07-05-2003, 09:15 PM
i like windows xp

Ambush333
07-05-2003, 09:20 PM
it's really great

[B][O][T]
07-05-2003, 09:31 PM
Then install it and give it a try.

BOT

Ambush333
07-05-2003, 09:42 PM
not right now but somehow later.

Cl1mh4224rd
07-05-2003, 10:45 PM
...then what was the point of this thread, again?

Ambush333
07-05-2003, 11:24 PM
to help me out

Xilo
07-06-2003, 12:15 AM
Windows 2000 is better for slower computers. I got it on a 300 mhz comp with 32 mb of ram and it runs fine :D

brotherdoobie
07-06-2003, 12:38 AM
Originally posted by {I}{K}{E}+5 July 2003 - 02:34--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE ({I}{K}{E} @ 5 July 2003 - 02:34)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Sparsely@5 July 2003 - 09:33
You should install Windows XP
You should install Windows XP
you can do a XP &#39;readiness&#39; test


Want to see if your computer is ready to run Windows XP? Take a minute to run our tests. You&#39;ll see how your computer stacks up against the minimum and recommended hardware specs. We&#39;ll also look for software that may not run properly under Windows XP.

LINK (http://www.pcpitstop.com/xpready/default.asp) [/b][/quote]
Nice link IKE........I use PC Pitstop all the time.
You can also check out your internet connection(speed test)
Active X,Disk Health,and antivirus.



Peace brotherdoobie B)

brotherdoobie
07-06-2003, 12:44 AM
Originally posted by Wolfmight@5 July 2003 - 14:04
old comps: try Windows ME
average comps (non gamer): try Windows 2000
fast comp.: try Windows XP PRO Corp Sp1 Intergrated
Are you freaking kidding?
Windows ME.......No way&#33;

Peace brotherdoobie

Ambush333
07-06-2003, 02:24 AM
the test said you can&#39;t upgrade from windows 2000

MeMeMeSoHony
07-06-2003, 05:32 AM
brotherdoobie , you seem to be very wise when it comes to computers. Tell us why Windows ME is a "no no" , please&#33;[QUOTE]If you can&#39;t see me , then why do you stare at me? :blink:

jakert50
07-06-2003, 06:05 AM
Here&#39;s what I say:

Windows 9x -- Don&#39;t even think about it. They were good for a time, but the new OS&#39;s are so much better.

Windows ME -- Again, don&#39;t even consider it. Windows ME is just Windows 98 on weak steroids. All MS did was throw some patches together and called it "ME." I&#39;ve used ME at school, and it&#39;s more trouble than it&#39;s worth. Too many bugs.

Windows 2000 -- Extremely well-developed OS. I have Windows 2000 installed on a 233 MHz PC with 128 MB of ram and it actually runs very nicely. I actually think it runs better than Windows 98, but that&#39;s my opinion. Many good features, and it doesn&#39;t crash.

Windows XP -- This is only my opinion, but I personally think XP kicks butt. I&#39;ve used XP for 13 months now and it has only crashed once (but even then, it was only because I was running a game that had a patch for Windows XP, but I hadn&#39;t installed it yet.) And if you are worried about game compatibility for XP, just run the Compatability Wizard and it will fix it for you. XP has all the features of 2000, and even more.

Final Thoughts:
I really think you should limit your choices to 2000 and XP. 2000 will run better for lower-end machines, while XP will run excellently on higher-end machines (500 or better, I think). Just make sure you have enough ram (256 or more is almost a requirement. XP says 128 will work. Well, don&#39;t even try it. It brings a 1.8 GHz PC to it&#39;s knees.) I would recommend XP. However, if you don&#39;t want XP, go with 2000. Even if you do go with 2000, you won&#39;t be missing much. There&#39;s just a few features you&#39;ll be missing, and if you&#39;re that desperate to get the themes available in XP, just download WindowBlinds and install the "XP Luna" theme. Then it will look just like XP (download ObjectBar and install the XP Start Menu--then you&#39;ll have the ultimate XP-wannabe machine :P )

Well, I hope this was somewhat useful. Good luck in choosing&#33;

jakert50
07-06-2003, 06:32 AM
Originally posted by MeMeMeSoHony@5 July 2003 - 23:32
brotherdoobie , you seem to be very wise when it comes to computers. Tell us why Windows ME is a "no no" , please&#33;[QUOTE]If you can&#39;t see me , then why do you stare at me? :blink:
Sorry, I&#39;m not brotherdoobie, but I do consider myself to be "computer-wise".

Here&#39;s just a few problems I have found with Windows ME:

the _RESTORE folder
The _RESTORE folder, which is found on C:&#092;, is a major problem. That folder was designed for the system restore feature (which also stinks in ME only). The major problem here is this folder can take anywhere from 2GB of space to over 20GB&#33;&#33;&#33; A friend of mine had a problem with his ME machine, so I looked at it ran Norton AntiVirus 2000, which said that there were mutiple instances of the "Sircam" virus there, but it couldn&#39;t delete it or quarantine it because that folder is untouchable. You can&#39;t just delete it&#39;s contents. Even if you try to disable system restore, it still runs and won&#39;t allow you to delete that waste-of-space-folder.

Freezeing when deleting large amounts of files
Just is just a common problem that doesn&#39;t exist in any other Windows version. When you try to delete a large amount of files, the computer will grind to a halt and require a reboot. I don&#39;t know why this happens, and I don&#39;t know how it is caused. It just does. And that isn&#39;t exactly a feature Microsoft wanted in ME.

Where&#39;s the drivers?
The computers I have at home used to run Windows 98 SE (now they run 2K). When I was in high school, the computers ran Windows ME. One thing I noticed is that ME lacked the driver database Windows 98 SE had. I found that most (about 75%) of the drivers that weren&#39;t found in the Windows ME driver database could be found in the Windows 98 SE database. How does that make sense? Fortunately, Windows 2000 fixed that error by having every driver known to man when it was released. Thank goodness for common sense.

It&#39;s still DOS&#33; ME still runs on DOS&#33;&#33;
Don&#39;t listen to them&#33; No matter what they say, Windows ME still operates under the Windows 9x architecture, which means the core is DOS. They try to hide it, but when Windows ME is loading, press Esc and you&#39;ll see the DOS-in-the-background. Because of this, the BSOD is still that old-style Windows 9x BSOD, and not the new Windows 2K-based BSOD. If you think Windows 2000/XP is DOS based, then you&#39;re wrong. DOS isn&#39;t even crutial to the system anymore. When the computer starts, it does some memory manipulation stuff and loads new environments on top of itself until the environment is suitable enough to run and support a Windows environment.

Windows ME architecture
When I look at Windows ME, all I see is (1) basically Windows 98 SE with all the updates from Windows Update, a different background color, new icons, and new sounds, and (2) a cheap opportunity for MS to get some extra cash. And I&#39;m serious, too. ME is nothing but an attempt to gain some extra cash. That&#39;s not necessarily the case for all Windows&#33; All other OS&#39;s have alot of new security features, OS features, and entertainment features. Windows ME was basically "Hey, let&#39;s re-release Windows 98 with all the updates and patches we have so far, create a few new ones, change some colors, add new sounds, and make the icons look like Windows 2000." I&#39;ll give credit to ME for one item: System Restore. However, the System Restore in Windows ME doesn&#39;t work well at all, if anyone has tried it. Everytime I have used it, it either makes the computer run alot slower, generates more errors, or just doesn&#39;t work at all because it says "There were no changes made to your system."

To sum it all up, I really don&#39;t see why there are still users of Windows ME out there. Windows 2000 is so much more stable, and only requires a little more CPU power. As I stated before, 2000 runs on a 233 MHz POS&#33;&#33;&#33; It&#39;s really worth the upgrade, especially if you&#39;re sick and tired of the freezing and unstable-ness of Windows ME. And if you&#39;re a gamer, just take the worthwhile leap to XP. 2000 is great, but I don&#39;t think it&#39;s the best of operating systems for gaming, because that&#39;s not exactly what it was designed for. Games will run, but they will probably run better on XP. And if your system is too slow to run XP, perhaps you should get a new PC because if you&#39;re getting XP for the games, then you&#39;ll need a fast computer for the games anyway.

m8t
07-06-2003, 11:37 AM
:D
hi there &#33;
i&#39;m using XP Pro corp and it works great on my pc
which i think is about the same as Ambush333.
550mhz processor
512mb sdram
pentium 111
regards
m8t :blink:

balamm
07-06-2003, 11:47 AM
Fortunately, Windows 2000 fixed that error by having every driver known to man when it was released. Thank goodness for common sense.


:blink: ??? :blink:

It has a few network drivers that win98SE didn&#39;t have but other than that.. ?

brotherdoobie
07-06-2003, 02:21 PM
Originally posted by jakert50@6 July 2003 - 01:32

brotherdoobie , you seem to be very wise when it comes to computers. Tell us why Windows ME is a "no no" , please&#33;[QUOTE]If you can&#39;t see me , then why do you stare at me? :blink:
Sorry, I&#39;m not brotherdoobie, but I do consider myself to be "computer-wise".

Here&#39;s just a few problems I have found with Windows ME:

the _RESTORE folder
The _RESTORE folder, which is found on C:&#092;, is a major problem. That folder was designed for the system restore feature (which also stinks in ME only). The major problem here is this folder can take anywhere from 2GB of space to over 20GB&#33;&#33;&#33; A friend of mine had a problem with his ME machine, so I looked at it ran Norton AntiVirus 2000, which said that there were mutiple instances of the "Sircam" virus there, but it couldn&#39;t delete it or quarantine it because that folder is untouchable. You can&#39;t just delete it&#39;s contents. Even if you try to disable system restore, it still runs and won&#39;t allow you to delete that waste-of-space-folder.






The System Restore feature serves the same function in Windows XP
as in Windows ME.

If files become infected (such as a virus) then you have to disable
system restore,disinfect,reboot,and turn system restore back on.

To disable system restore in Windows ME

1.Close all running programs.
2.Right click My Computer>Properties
3.Click the Performance tab>click the File System>click the Troubleshooting tab.
4.Check disable system restore,click ok and then close
5.Click yes to restart.

This disables the system restore function and will purge the contents of the
restore folder,when the system is restarted. Run your anti-virus program or
removal tool.

Please make sure your anti-virus progam is set to scan all files and drives.
and then scan the computer.
If your scan comes up clean then enable system restore.

As far as system restore (the restore points) taking up space you can change
that.

1.Right click My Computer>Properties
2.Select the Performance tab
3.Click the File System button
4.On the Hard Disk tab adjust the System Restore Disk space use slider to the prefered size.(reducing the disk space used by system restore may reduce exsisting restore points)

Peace brotherdoobie B)

Ambush333
07-06-2003, 06:28 PM
I think windows 2000 is very nice

Ambush333
07-06-2003, 06:58 PM
but few errors in windows 2000 :ninja:

Ambush333
07-06-2003, 07:05 PM
don&#39;t want windows 98

[B][O][T]
07-06-2003, 08:09 PM
Sorry but WTF is this all about?
Are You gonna keep on posting like this till christmas?

BOT

KUALKIERA
07-06-2003, 08:22 PM
Originally posted by Ambush333@5 July 2003 - 22:42
not right now but somehow later.
think you like to waist people time just to acumulate posts . As [B][O][T] said........Sorry but WTF is this all about.? :huh:

Ambush333
07-06-2003, 09:14 PM
i am justing getting help

iamtheoneandonlyone
07-06-2003, 09:26 PM
You should. I recommend Window XP Home Edition. Professional has too much security surrounding it.

Wolfmight
07-06-2003, 09:53 PM
Originally posted by iamtheoneandonlyone@6 July 2003 - 15:26
You should. I recommend Window XP Home Edition. Professional has too much security surrounding it.
i suggest Pro edition cause it&#39;s actually not hard to use at all. If u want to learn some more about windows xp ya know..

Ambush333
07-07-2003, 12:55 AM
i wanna learn more about xp

Wolfmight
07-07-2003, 01:02 AM
search for "Windows XP Pro Corp SP1 Intergrated"
You wont need to install SP1

balamm
07-07-2003, 01:03 AM
Try this > http://www.google.ca/search?q=LEarn+more+a...le+Search&meta= (http://www.google.ca/search?q=LEarn+more+about+XP&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&hl=en&btnG=Google+Search&meta=)

This thread has degenerated so badly,

Ambush333 The board is not to be used as a note pad&#33;

If you have a question, a tip, or a serious comment, then post it.

Don&#39;t keep posting silly 2 or 3 word "thoughts" in this section please.

Wolfmight
07-07-2003, 01:07 AM
http://www.klboard.ath.cx/bb/index.php?sho...c=29683&st=2870 (http://www.klboard.ath.cx/bb/index.php?showtopic=29683&st=2870)
check this out ambush333

Cl1mh4224rd
07-07-2003, 03:53 AM
Originally posted by MeMeMeSoHony@6 July 2003 - 06:32
Tell us why Windows ME is a "no no" , please&#33;
Well, from what I&#39;ve gathered, a clean install of ME is a piece of crap. In order to get it stable, and run as a worthwhile OS, you have to make a number of tweaks. Tweaking something just to make it run properly is Not A Good Thing™.

On the other hand, some people have had absolutely no problems with it at all.

Wolfmight
07-07-2003, 03:57 AM
Originally posted by Cl1mh4224rd+6 July 2003 - 21:53--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Cl1mh4224rd @ 6 July 2003 - 21:53)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-MeMeMeSoHony@6 July 2003 - 06:32
Tell us why Windows ME is a "no no" , please&#33;
Well, from what I&#39;ve gathered, a clean install of ME is a piece of crap. In order to get it stable, and run as a worthwhile OS, you have to make a number of tweaks. Tweaking something just to make it run properly is Not A Good Thing™.

On the other hand, some people have had absolutely no problems with it at all. [/b][/quote]
xp is finally a release that made things less "crappy" in microsoft terms

Ambush333
07-07-2003, 02:29 PM
that dosn&#39;t help

Ambush333
07-07-2003, 02:30 PM
downloading windows me is a waste of time

Wolfmight
07-07-2003, 03:57 PM
Originally posted by Ambush333@7 July 2003 - 08:30
downloading windows me is a waste of time
yea.. i think microsoft Rushed into releaseing that edition before the year 2000.. lol Windows 2000 was actually released earlier i think, but it had even more stuff.. Why did they make 2 at once..rofl

Ambush333
07-07-2003, 04:22 PM
that&#39;s true :zorro:

Ambush333
07-07-2003, 04:25 PM
but on xp my computer runs slow :geek:

Ambush333
07-07-2003, 04:29 PM
windows xp also have some errors

callum
07-07-2003, 04:32 PM
Originally posted by Ambush333@7 July 2003 - 17:29
windows xp also have some errors
Why don&#39;t you just stick with 2000?

liquidacid
07-07-2003, 04:40 PM
Ambush333.

OK. If i may, i&#39;ll sum up.

ME is crap.
2000 is great.
XP is also great, but your computer is not.

So what is your decision?

Ambush333
07-07-2003, 06:32 PM
windows 2000 has errors

Wolfmight
07-07-2003, 06:42 PM
Any windows o/s has errors lol.. .. it&#39;s a killar

u just need to get the one that runs best.. i suggest 2000 if your not a gamer.
Xp can be configured to run faster also.. all those visual themes and stuff arnt needed.

jetje
07-07-2003, 07:42 PM
in my opinion if you have little harddisk space and little memory us win98se..
It&#39;s the most stable olde version...

If your pc is p3 550 or better, enough harddiskspace and at least 256 ram (512 is much better) then you can consider 2000 or XP. Both are very stable but for a home pc XP has the advantage of having more fun features and better for games.

If you wanna know more about an Operating system, install it. That&#39;s the only way to find out if it works nice on your pc. XP has pretty good help functionality and other wis buy a Dummies book (this is no joke they&#39;re great for starters&#33;)

Topic closed&#33;