Peer Guardian

[Fluffy_Bunny]

Okay, I got Peer Guardian yesterday. Already, I've had 11 blocks. I'm just wondering if it does anything productive, because if I got 11 blocks yesterday, odds are that the MPAA, NetPD, Vidius, and the RIAA have tried to get into my computer before. SO, what I'm wondering is if there's any point in using it. Will it actually work or will it just irritate the bots/'hackers'? Thanks! :)

[VB]

They use automated bots I guess. I don't think they care if you closed a connection or not.

[Fluffy_Bunny]

Cool. Where can I go about downloading more blocked IP addresses? Thanks again!

[Ad]

it still is not proven PG works most of the time it block innocent people ;)

[dingdongding]

for those besides adthomp that just like to bash peerguardian you can check out the ranges at http://methlab.tech.nu/ and there is a new forum for ppl who want to make the ip database better but id hold off coz they're ironing out the kinks...

as for pg's effectiveness you are better off importing the ips into your firewall as pg monitors and closes tcp/icp connections- a good example of a firewall being quicker than pg in closing out connections is when i have both pg running and the ips imported into zapro4 the firewall will block the page from opening before pg ever gets the chance (a closed connection does not register with pg) also consider that anti p2p groups are using udp connections which pg is not designed to deal with- but a firewall obviously is...

[RealitY]

Originally posted by adthomp@8 July 2003 - 05:21
it still is not proven PG works most of the time it block innocent people ;)
Once again, think before you speak and toss about your one liners all over this forum.

[Ad]

Once again, think before you speak and toss about your one liners all over this forum.

http://www.ebaumsworld.com/forumfun/newbie1.jpg

[dingdongding]

hmm. whose the real newbie here lol

[Ad]

people who are paranoid ;)

and think kazaa is dead

[RealitY]

I think you'de be the NEWBIE if judged by content little one.

[Ad]

http://www.ebaumsworld.com/forumfun/stfu.jpg

and u take me serious :P :P :P

[RealitY]

No CLOWN BOY, I don't.

[Ad]

No CLOWN BOY, I don't.

that good we need more http://www.klboard.ath.cx/bb/style_images/1/icon12.gifhttp://www.klboard.ath.cx/bb/style_images/1/icon12.gif rather then :flame: :flame:

[cyberdman]

I've got a question for you guys. Recently PG has stopped a bunch of FBI scans
on my system. I always before thought that they checked and saw which IPs are
connected to the Kazaa Network and then only scan those folks that are on.
Yesterday I got FBI scanned and I wasn't even running Kazaa. I think I got about
18 FBI hits or more all from different IPs in their range. Should I be at all
worried about this? Thanks. :unsure:

[DemolitionMan]

If i were you i would run. they know where you live :lol: B)

[Ad]

RIAA if your reading this baord email me and ill sent u back my IP adress I take the cha;;enge ;)

[SeK612]

Personally I've never bothered using it. I do have it somewhere on my P.C but never really liked the thing. Besides if the RIAA, FBI and Mediaa force (as well as the rest of the companies that are featured on the "big lists" of recommended IP's to block) were as big a threat as they like to make out then they've already worked out how to outsmart Peer Guardian and are happily picking off hundreds of sharers as they go :)

[cyberdman]

So seriously, should I be worried at all? It is not like I have ever really had that much stuff to share in comparison to others. Also, since the threat of large groups suing I have barely been logged on and my share folder is at a minimum. Am I being paranoid for nothing?

[Blank Space]

The thing is really, it would stop you from downloading the file.

Technically, the can't prosecute you if you haven't downloaded the file. Mainly they don't have the proof. You could have just accidentally stumbled to their IP.

I mean they can't prosecute you for using a program thats legal to use, and since it is downloadable and is promoting that we download this program....

[dingdongding]

Originally posted by cyberdman@8 July 2003 - 08:17
I've got a question for you guys. Recently PG has stopped a bunch of FBI scans
on my system. I always before thought that they checked and saw which IPs are
connected to the Kazaa Network and then only scan those folks that are on.
Yesterday I got FBI scanned and I wasn't even running Kazaa. I think I got about
18 FBI hits or more all from different IPs in their range. Should I be at all
worried about this? Thanks. :unsure:
what were the specific ips? without those and doing a whois it wouldn't be possible to know- there are some bad lists floating around- make sure to stick with the recommended list (not the whole list) from the pg database- it's getting flooded right now with morons submitting colleges, universities, and even bigger morons doing whois searches and submitting ranges of 200 to 32,000 ips based on port scans from individual ips (there are millions of port scans a day and most have nothing to do with anti p2p groups- that's what friggin firewalls are for) if anyone reading this is one of these ppl stop doing it!

[DarkBlizzard]

Originally posted by SeK612@8 July 2003 - 09:47
Personally I've never bothered using it. I do have it somewhere on my P.C but never really liked the thing. Besides if the RIAA, FBI and Mediaa force (as well as the rest of the companies that are featured on the "big lists" of recommended IP's to block) were as big a threat as they like to make out then they've already worked out how to outsmart Peer Guardian and are happily picking off hundreds of sharers as they go :)
Thats why Peer Guardian gets updated alot...because of that.

( And by the way im blocking over 52 million IP Address lol...thats how many the recommended is on the Peer Guardian Site )

[ripley02]

does anyone know an easier way of setting up ZApro to the PG blocklist other that manually entering in the ranges?

[imported_The__One]

Peer Guardian most certainly does block out more IP's then it needs to, at least it does when U load 747.597.135 I.P's into it :D :D

PG blocked 725 IP's during 1 day, in which, by the way, I didn't even open Kazaa :blink: :blink:

[dingdongding]

Originally posted by ripley02@8 July 2003 - 16:45
does anyone know an easier way of setting up ZApro to the PG blocklist other that manually entering in the ranges?
yep, http://www.klboard.ath.cx/bb/index.php?showtopic=49018

[dingdongding]

Originally posted by The__One@8 July 2003 - 17:15
Peer Guardian most certainly does block out more IP's then it needs to, at least it does when U load 747.597.135 I.P's into it :D :D

PG blocked 725 IP's during 1 day, in which, by the way, I didn't even open Kazaa :blink: :blink:
i'm guessing that number has gotta be a joke (i'm giving you the benefit of the doubt)

[cyberdman]

Originally posted by The__One@8 July 2003 - 17:15
PG blocked 725 IP's during 1 day, in which, by the way, I didn't even open Kazaa :blink: :blink:
Actually I completely believe him. I got 363 blocks yesterday and my computer was only on for about 4 hours - during this time I was not running Kazaa.

Oh and BTW, PG said they were all from the FBI. Now this is what has had me worried over the past couple of days. I performed a whois query on arin.net on that IP that says "FBI" and it really is the "United Colocation Group, Inc." I'm not sure exactly who they are or what they do, but they look like some kind of provider of dedicated hosting solutions.

Explain WTF would make them want to be hitting my computer so hard then? :huh:

[dingdongding]

@cyberdman- i should have been more specific i was talkin about the number of ips loaded from The__One 's post - 747,597,135- which is way to high to be effective (and of course you're gonna a ton of closec connections with that many ips)- the recommended pg database list is around 50 million addresses. the real anti p2p groups work in smaller ranges that are harder to find- some ppl seem to be intent on blocking out other file sharers in the name of being safe or whatever.

also pg is not the best way to protect you from anti p2p groups coz it doesn't close udp connections- it only monitors and closes tcp/icp connections...

on the fbi thing my guess is that those ranges are bogus (of course i don't know for sure but i know at one point someone was actually submitting ranges based on fbi.com lol-check for my recent submissions to the pg database- the "federal bureau of investigation" ranges- which are legit- obviously is would be next to impossible to get all the ranges the fbi works from unless you feel like getting their attention but i question to what degree they are involved in going after individual file sharers-i've read the articles about it but really- i doubt it...

as for the united colocation group they say they are a hosting company:


Welcome to United Colocation Group. We are the leading provider of cutting-edge dedicated hosting solutions and comprehensive co-location management to small businesses and mid-size enterprises.

[imported_The__One]

Actually, that number is real, I loaded 747.597.135 IP's into PG :P I collected every IP List I found (for Peer Guardian of course..)

I did this more for fun than security issues, since, as dingdongding stated, blocking so many IP's isn't really effective, and several anti-piracy groups use UDP and TPC/IP....and PG only blocks TPC/IP connections.... B)

see the screen shot below:

http://photopile.com/photos/4Play/family/18562.gif

[theprisoner]

i wouldnt waste my time with Peer guardian. It blocks many innocent uses. Do you really think that the p2p enemies are really scaning everyone(most ppl are "scaned" over 20 times a day)? I have it block ips when kazaa isnt even on! The p2p enimes arent goin to use obivious ip ranges that are listed on peer guardian anyway(especially the FBI)...

[dingdongding]

it's better to have the ips imported into a firewall than use pg but i think we've already beaten that one to death- as for the ips they are being edited daily- again this has been covered