Feds Warning

[-Archwolf-]

i have dloaded a movie and there was a fbi warning at the beginning of the movie is this a problem can they track the movie or something because I don't want to bend over because i dropped a piece of soap and then be raped in the showers by a guy just because I dloaded a movie :D :D :D


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[Kid1A]

lol scared by a crapy little fbi warning, jesus if they cant find osma in alfganistan i dowt the'll find you out of 10 million other filesharers!!

[clocker]

There is a FBI warning at the beginning of every movie.
You were probably still in line getting popcorn and missed it.

[MetroStars]

dude what movie was the warning at

[-Archwolf-]

gangs of new york, pianist, bruce almighty

[maddytherenegade]

i have even seen such copyrighted PORN movies with warnings from feds!!
Why in the earth feds get involved with porn.. :P

[-Archwolf-]

ohh I think I can think of a few reasons those dirty pigs

I would never do that o:) :-"

[Wizzandabe]

I got a FBI warning at the start of james bond.

[Arm]

Originally posted by Kid1A@7 July 2003 - 12:12
lol scared by a crapy little fbi warning, jesus if they cant find osma in alfganistan i dowt the'll find you out of 10 million other filesharers!!
Oh Osama and Saddam are laying on a beach in Tahiti drinking some drink. They are not importany anymore. We got Afganstain and Iraq. They were just used to justify invading those countries.

[AVFC]

:angry: u stupid ignorant fool

[Arm]

Originally posted by AVFC@8 July 2003 - 20:17
:angry:  u stupid ignorant fool
Look whos talking. :P

Your stupid and ignorant if you actually thought Iraq has weapons of mass destruction.

[DarkBlizzard]

Arm you are the ignornat fool...There are WMD's in Iraq. Im not saying there are Nuclear Misslies. WMD DOES NOT mean Nuclear Misslies like the ones that make mushroom clouds. But there are nuclear misslies that are much smaller in size. About the size of a Adult Human or roughly the length of a car. There are also the bio-weapons which are WMD. The Iraq soldiers used Bio-weapons on US Soldiers in the first Gulf War, as i do know a person who had Bio-weapons used on him during the first Gulf War. Stop your fighting.

[Mobas]

-Archwolf-, it sounds like you got one of those DVD screeners that have the so called "This screener has been electronically encoded for tracking purposes" message. What happens is that screeners are sent out by the movie studios to reviewers, and to the Acadamy people so that they have time to write reviews or give out awards. The screeners are encoded so that if the screener turns up on the black market, then the movie studio can then determine whos copy was leaked. The electronic encoding is only to trace back the screener to who they sent it to. It doesn't mean that there is some secret trojan program in the movie to track you. Some media players can track what you play (like Windows Media Player/ just use the privacy features in it), and I heard that some ASF media files can access the internet (This is what I heard/ can't remember where though).

[IVIick]

they invaded for WMD's and all they found was the scuds that where fired at them when invading, clap clap clap

[MetroStars]

iam dl'ing Bowling for Columbine and that has a warning at the start.. god dam wouldn't it b gr8 if the FBI kicked your door in over a movie..

[Switeck]

Originally posted by IVIick@12 July 2003 - 12:24
they invaded for WMD's and all they found was the scuds that where fired at them when invading,
Scuds were the very missiles banned by the UN as a WMD. If Iraq had them (not that they proved effective...), then Iraq was DEFINITELY not interested in destroying their WMDs but instead was hiding them.

This doesn't mean any country that destroys its WMDs is defenseless, because most of the WMDs are only useful as offensive weapons against fixed targets.

[Renegade720]

the feds are more concerned with IRC, they have feds all over it. its because most software comes from there, even shit not yet released! kazaa is the slower of thw two to get stuff leaked

[Hyde]

not that WMD's have anything to do with this topic, why is it such a big deal for iraq to have them..... when at one base in the US they have 150 nukes ready to be launched at a moments notice :blink:

[Mobas]

Why is it such a big deal for Iraq to have WMD, and not the US?.....Probably because the US is not prone to use WMD. We would only use them if there was no other means in defeating an enemy. If Iraq had them, they would of used them on Israel or to take over a small country (like Kuwait). We don't go around trying to conquer other countries....even though we could pretty much whip any countries a$$ if we really wanted too.

[RealitY]

NONE of this is a crime, only a civil matter. What was this topic about.

[Scared_ShitLess]

Hey All<

I have seen the same message on movies I d/l&#39;ed but I haven&#39;t seen the Copyrights police yet.... :unsure: I also have like 55gigs of movies..

[loz]

Have you bought a dvd recently... well if you had you might have known that they have the warning on most stuff, it&#39;s just so you don&#39;t start making copies & selling them.

[ISthisLEGAL.com]

Originally posted by Mobas@13 July 2003 - 02:03
Why is it such a big deal for Iraq to have WMD, and not the US?.....Probably because the US is not prone to use WMD. We would only use them if there was no other means in defeating an enemy. If Iraq had them, they would of used them on Israel or to take over a small country (like Kuwait). We don&#39;t go around trying to conquer other countries....even though we could pretty much whip any countries a&#036;&#036; if we really wanted too.
Yes, the u.s could whip any country they wanted as most americans come from the united kingdom and invading countrys is what we do best&#33; ;)

[chalkmongoose]

If they did, I&#39;d have been busted a long while ago. And not to start a riot, but if the Iraq army had WMD, why didn&#39;t they use &#39;em? The only thing we&#39;re going to find in Iraq is missles inscribed "To my hump buddy Saddam, from Bush the Elected"

[Arm]

Originally posted by DarkBlizzard@8 July 2003 - 22:35
Arm you are the ignornat fool...There are WMD&#39;s in Iraq. Im not saying there are Nuclear Misslies. WMD DOES NOT mean Nuclear Misslies like the ones that make mushroom clouds. But there are nuclear misslies that are much smaller in size. About the size of a Adult Human or roughly the length of a car. There are also the bio-weapons which are WMD. The Iraq soldiers used Bio-weapons on US Soldiers in the first Gulf War, as i do know a person who had Bio-weapons used on him during the first Gulf War. Stop your fighting.
Really? Do you have any proof to back that up or are you just going off bullshit you heard on the news? If you knew anything on the subject then you would know that it&#39;s impossible that Iraq has them.

The most important being if Iraq had them then how come they didn&#39;t use them?
Could it be because they don&#39;t hve any? :P

[tiggersbowl]

Just to let you all know, I had a hulk movie that I downloaded and I was told by my isp that universal studio&#39;s contacted them. I was told to remove the movie and any other copyrighted material I had on my computer.

Talk about a shock. I am not sure how they figured it out, but if anyone knows I would love to find out. I used eMule as a p2p program.

[junkyardking]

Originally posted by tiggersbowl@15 July 2003 - 01:06
Just to let you all know, I had a hulk movie that I downloaded and I was told by my isp that universal studio&#39;s contacted them. I was told to remove the movie and any other copyrighted material I had on my computer.

Talk about a shock. I am not sure how they figured it out, but if anyone knows I would love to find out. I used eMule as a p2p program.
Because you shared the file(partial file sharing as well), they have automated bots that scan for files and download from you there by knowing you have the file.
I suggest you install peergurdian and update it regularly, it works by blocking the ip address of filesharing enemys, although it&#39;s not full proof.

[downloader2008]

So to wrap this whole thing up, they CANT put tracking devices into AVI files? :huh:

[junkyardking]

Originally posted by downloader2008@15 July 2003 - 03:31
So to wrap this whole thing up, they CANT put tracking devices into AVI files? :huh:
Not nescessary true, i dont know about avi&#39;s, but i heard that guy who ripped that workprint of the hulk got found out, how?

Because when he ripped it from the source, probally a dvd/cd somthing in digital format anyway, a program phoned home alerting them to it.

[Switeck]

Originally posted by junkyardking+15 July 2003 - 00:56--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (junkyardking @ 15 July 2003 - 00:56)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-downloader2008@15 July 2003 - 03:31
So to wrap this whole thing up, they CANT put tracking devices into AVI files?&nbsp; :huh:
Not nescessary true, i dont know about avi&#39;s, but i heard that guy who ripped that workprint of the hulk got found out, how?

Because when he ripped it from the source, probally a dvd/cd somthing in digital format anyway, a program phoned home alerting them to it. [/b][/quote]
An AVI file can be a renamed ASF or WMV file that CAN have phone-home abilities in it. I&#39;ve gotten a few DragonBall Z episodes that do that. But that&#39;s off-topic. Only Microsoft video editing software would be so evil as to track your actions and phone home for copyright violations. :P

But the Hulk workprint would either be made from a DVD or the original film source. Each work copy sent out to theaters might have a marker in it to say which number it is -- then it&#39;s a matter of eliminating suspects to determine who at a given theater leaked a copy.

[tracydani]

Originally posted by Switeck@15 July 2003 - 10:08
But the Hulk workprint would either be made from a DVD or the original film source. Each work copy sent out to theaters might have a marker in it to say which number it is -- then it&#39;s a matter of eliminating suspects to determine who at a given theater leaked a copy.
I don&#39;t remember where I heard/read it but, I belive it had to do with the counter/watermark? Apparently they each have different markings/numbers which are normally blocked out to hide where it is from.
But on this movie they also placed the numbers/markers in different places for each copy. This meant they could track it even though it was removed/blocked just by seeing where the blank spot was.

At that point it was pretty easy for them.

TD

Oh yeah, there is a special place in the lounge for the wmd talk. This is not it, unless you are sharing that through kazaa? In that case post a hash in the appropriate section so I don&#39;t keep getting Brittany Spears when I search for it ;)

[downloader2008]

Originally posted by Switeck+15 July 2003 - 03:08--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Switeck @ 15 July 2003 - 03:08)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
Originally posted by junkyardking@15 July 2003 - 00:56
<!--QuoteBegin-downloader2008@15 July 2003 - 03:31
So to wrap this whole thing up, they CANT put tracking devices into AVI files? :huh:
Not nescessary true, i dont know about avi&#39;s, but i heard that guy who ripped that workprint of the hulk got found out, how?

Because when he ripped it from the source, probally a dvd/cd somthing in digital format anyway, a program phoned home alerting them to it.
An AVI file can be a renamed ASF or WMV file that CAN have phone-home abilities in it. I&#39;ve gotten a few DragonBall Z episodes that do that. But that&#39;s off-topic. Only Microsoft video editing software would be so evil as to track your actions and phone home for copyright violations. :P

But the Hulk workprint would either be made from a DVD or the original film source. Each work copy sent out to theaters might have a marker in it to say which number it is -- then it&#39;s a matter of eliminating suspects to determine who at a given theater leaked a copy. [/b][/quote]
So you mean that if I download a movie from someone on Kazaa, they can find out stuff about me?&#33; :mellow:

[Switeck]

Originally posted by downloader2008+15 July 2003 - 21:33--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (downloader2008 &#064; 15 July 2003 - 21:33)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
Originally posted by Switeck@15 July 2003 - 03:08

Originally posted by junkyardking@15 July 2003 - 00:56
<!--QuoteBegin-downloader2008@15 July 2003 - 03:31
So to wrap this whole thing up, they CANT put tracking devices into AVI files? :huh:Not nescessary true, i dont know about avi&#39;s, but i heard that guy who ripped that workprint of the hulk got found out, how?

Because when he ripped it from the source, probally a dvd/cd somthing in digital format anyway, a program phoned home alerting them to it.An AVI file can be a renamed ASF or WMV file that CAN have phone-home abilities in it. I&#39;ve gotten a few DragonBall Z episodes that do that. But that&#39;s off-topic. Only Microsoft video editing software would be so evil as to track your actions and phone home for copyright violations. :P

But the Hulk workprint would either be made from a DVD or the original film source. Each work copy sent out to theaters might have a marker in it to say which number it is -- then it&#39;s a matter of eliminating suspects to determine who at a given theater leaked a copy.So you mean that if I download a movie from someone on Kazaa, they can find out stuff about me?&#33; :mellow:[/b][/quote]Yes, if you get a trojan horse, they can do almost anything they want to your computer -- possibly without you even knowing. I&#39;ve gotten a fake MP3 file that was in fact a renamed *.VBS script VIRUS. Having 1-byte corruptions added to all your shared files would be very hard to spot if it was done &#39;quietly&#39; and didn&#39;t changed the date/time on the files -- but it would wreck anyone&#39;s ability to swarm your files with others of identical kind.

Having said all that, NO you need NOT be vulnerable to any of that.

If you download a movie, you can view the raw details of the file in a hex editor or some similar viewer-but-not-runner program and after only a minimal amount of training you&#39;ll be able to tell the difference between MPG and AVI and WMV/ASF and even RM&#33; They are all very distinctive in layout and only WMV/ASF and RM have &#39;phone home&#39; capabilities. I usually do a hex view of the tv shows I download just to check to see what video codecs they used and whether they are complete files -- the end of their file should have the keyframe tables if they&#39;re AVI files (although I can&#39;t tell for WMV/ASF or MPG).

Remarked files are rare and generally accidental among what I get (anime), but for movies I&#39;m sure MPAA has ALREADY experimented with fakes that have phone-home capabilities.

[downloader2008]

Originally posted by Switeck@16 July 2003 - 11:58
Yes, if you get a trojan horse, they can do almost anything they want to your computer -- possibly without you even knowing. I&#39;ve gotten a fake MP3 file that was in fact a renamed *.VBS script VIRUS. .
Having said that was the file name *.vbs.mp3 or was it just *.mp3? And to make it clear, unless the video is a virus or trojan, you can NOT trace the video back to the person who downloaded it...?

[Switeck]

Originally posted by downloader2008+16 July 2003 - 22:15--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (downloader2008 &#064; 16 July 2003 - 22:15)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteBegin-Switeck@16 July 2003 - 11:58
Yes, if you get a trojan horse, they can do almost anything they want to your computer -- possibly without you even knowing. I&#39;ve gotten a fake MP3 file that was in fact a renamed *.VBS script VIRUS. . Having said that was the file name *.vbs.mp3 or was it just *.mp3? And to make it clear, unless the video is a virus or trojan, you can NOT trace the video back to the person who downloaded it...?[/b][/quote]The MP3 virus filename was *.MP3 -- not *.vbs.mp3 nor *.mp3.lnk...

Media Player recognized the internal file structure (*.vbs) even though the filename was *.mp3 and ran it just fine.

Unless there is a virus or trojan in the file you download OR you are sharing the files you download, there is no easily-workable way for anyone other than the person you download from to know what you just downloaded.

There are difficult man-in-the-middle monitoring approaches -- such as your ISP recording all internet traffic to your computer and determining what you downloaded that way or a supernode monitoring your traffic -- but the technical expertise to do them (and the luck factors involved) make them unworkable as a large-scale spying method for RIAA to use on file sharers.

With 1 possible exception:
If they set up lots of supernodes, then monitored the search/download request traffic going through them they might get SOME indirect evidence linking the nodes that connect to them to the files they&#39;re attempting to download. But because they have no way to verify if the user/s only ran a search but didn&#39;t download, cancelled the downloads, or were even aware they downloaded a &#39;bad&#39; file, if they attempted to use that information in a court of law they&#39;d be laughed at. (They may get more info for firewalled users because supernodes act as go-betweens to make those connections work.)

But it&#39;s not courts that they&#39;re using... it&#39;s politicians and law enforcement. If you care to &#39;contest&#39; their claims and take them to court, you have to give up all your privacy and show them EVERYTHING you&#39;re doing on your computer -- after all, if you&#39;re innocent then you have nothing to hide.

[downloader2008]

So that means that usually files that have *.MP3 instead of *.mp3, will have a virus?&#33; :huh:

[Switeck]

Originally posted by downloader2008@21 July 2003 - 20:35
So that means that usually files that have *.MP3 instead of *.mp3, will have a virus?&#33; :huh:
NO&#33;

The example I used I spelled out *.MP3 in caps for emphasis.
Windows doesn&#39;t care whether the file extension is in caps or not.

*.tXt , *.TXT , *.txt , and *.txT will all open as a text file by notepad (more than likely.)

[TIBZ]

if u got a bootleg movie its not illegal if u just have it u have u purchased it or sold it then thats wen it becomes a crime

[Icey]

I think mass file sharing such as kazaa will finsh soon..
but ppl will set up exclusive groups ( and password or give access rites to ppl ) sharing the latest files and the fbi, riaa , mpaa can&#39;t do a thing about it.. :)

[Will_518]

Don&#39;t worry about it guys, just think:
how many ppl are shaing files?
how crowded are US prisons?

Anyway, don&#39;t worry if you go to prison, it&#39;s good life experience and good exercise, and you&#39;ll learn a lot.

BTW, so all you guys are file sharers, right...
Mmmh, must tell my boss about this forum then......

[just joking]

[downloader2008]

Originally posted by TIBZ@22 July 2003 - 04:34
if u got a bootleg movie its not illegal if u just have it u have u purchased it or sold it then thats wen it becomes a crime
Exactly.