how many members does a tracker need?

[Polarbear]

i know a few guys who started their own tracker. they have around 1000 members so far. about 80 with servers and good speed.

still the numbers of leechers is far to low. the speed is only good on brand new torrents.

how many members would a tracker need to be reasonable seeded and leeched?

[XS75]

15000 users minimum

[Polarbear]

15000 users minimum

wow, that is a lot. i think their problem is, that they have mainly mainstream scene stuff. i told them they need a unique selling point. maybe some rarer staff. but this is hard for a 0day tracker.

[ADELA]

8000-10000

[Polarbear]

8000-10000

ftn does a pretty good job with 5400 members then, respect.
of course you can't compare the best with a start up :noes:

[Mayhem]

they have to offer some unique stuff that people can't find in other places.
like rare/old/packs of movies/TV shows or some other fresh idea.
if they have the stuff people look for, good speeds and warm staff then the leechers will come.

[fifty99]

no need for more then 3,000 members ... F** does fine without ... yeah you cant compare a startup to the best ...

[ADELA]

8000-10000

ftn does a pretty good job with 5400 members then, respect.
of course you can't compare the best with a start up :noes:


ftn never had open sign ups. there 1st 2000 were all invites. then when dofr closed down alot of there users were invited which raised the user limit to 4000. by doing that they gave themself a great core userbase. i think it would be harder to pull that off today. i say if ur hosted in asia open sign ups wait till u hit 10,000 then prune all your dupes, cheaters, and disrespectfull user. come up with a fun way of getting invites (contests, upload amount,etc). before u know it youll have 8000 or so users.

[Grind$oFine]

Depends on the members :sly:

[nbo]

you open registrations and let 100000 people sign up, after a year you keep the best 8000-15000

[Night0wl]

Never open signups and only let good people get invites, then look after those. This off course depends on if you really want a good tracker or you want one that depends on people you do not know donating.

[game1283]

OFF-topic but On-topic:
While you were thinking how many members does a tracker need, a member here was thinking how many tracker a member needs :P lol just ignore me:)

[Polarbear]

OFF-topic but On-topic:
While you were thinking how many members does a tracker need, a member here was thinking how many tracker a member needs :P lol just ignore me:)

pure slam poetry :D

[blackbird]

look at TL and demonoid .. .. more members , stuff gets seeded for longer time ..

[game1283]

look at TL and demonoid .. .. more members , stuff gets seeded for longer time ..

yes that's somehow true..

but I'm thinking about security.. and perhaps if you will close signups and give invites only to some trusted persons.. the users will respect your site.. perhaps you don't want some leechers to just signup on your site and leech away:)

[sanjana]

FTN best in the business does not open for registration and it is only for VIP not for us.

[blackbird]

FTN best in the business does not open for registration and it is only for VIP not for us.

:blink:

[Daniel]

It heavily depends on the targeted users, because the average size of a torrent is as important as the number of new torrents per day. For some standard 0day-scene tracker I'd guess 10k to have everything running smoothly. But it doesn't end here. There are trackers with a large user database but very little peers and then there are trackers with a large number of peers from even less members.

The quality of users cannot be easily measured and some trackers simply have better users than others.

[Nestea]

15 000 Max!

[rvt]

As a few people have said, it all depends on content.

With 200 users who are going to all jump on a torrent, right there you are beating some of the massive sites on their worst torrents.
If they have already all grabbed the files elsewhere though, nobody is going to go to the smallest tracker for it.

Find something unique that appeals to the majority of users and anything over 20-30 users can work well.

[lessthanfour]

It totally depends on content and users. You do not need 15000 users to have a good tracker at all. Specialty sites can get by on way less as long as the members are good and they offer content not available elsewhere.

You really need something to differentiate yourselves from every other tracker.

[saulin]

I would say about 15000 too. 5000-10000 is too low unless they are seeding just a couple of thousand torrents. Trackers with small user dtabes lack speed. Only the newest stuff gets seeded ok.

[stoi]

the member that said open up get 100,000 in and then in a year keep the best 10,000-15,000 has pretty much hit the nail on the head.

we had 100,000 members 2-3 months ago when we opened, 13,000 got disabled in just a few days for various reasons, we upped the prune accounts from 42 days to 60 days, just so we could keep 100,000 there for a little bit.

Now we have 72,000 members, which is still pretty good for a specialised tracker (we only do games) but thats 28,000 members we have lost in 3 months, and we still have 10,000 disabled users that have yet to be pruned.

We are totally closed now, with no invites either, so we will see where we are after xmas, but im betting it will be lower than 50,000 by then.

I would hazard a guess that we probably have about 15,000 regulars, thats ppl that login at least once a day. our IRC channel has about 80 users in there including the staff, and we get on average between 400 and 700 users online at any one time.

so its not hard to get the members in, what is hard is getting good members in that want to stop and take part in the community, not just come and leech a few torrents and never be seen again.

[Polarbear]

the member that said open up get 100,000 in and then in a year keep the best 10,000-15,000 has pretty much hit the nail on the head.

we had 100,000 members 2-3 months ago when we opened, 13,000 got disabled in just a few days for various reasons, we upped the prune accounts from 42 days to 60 days, just so we could keep 100,000 there for a little bit.

Now we have 72,000 members, which is still pretty good for a specialised tracker (we only do games) but thats 28,000 members we have lost in 3 months, and we still have 10,000 disabled users that have yet to be pruned.

We are totally closed now, with no invites either, so we will see where we are after xmas, but im betting it will be lower than 50,000 by then.

I would hazard a guess that we probably have about 15,000 regulars, thats ppl that login at least once a day. our IRC channel has about 80 users in there including the staff, and we get on average between 400 and 700 users online at any one time.

so its not hard to get the members in, what is hard is getting good members in that want to stop and take part in the community, not just come and leech a few torrents and never be seen again.

your tracker is very unique. i think that explains the high demand. i guess it's almost like having a monopoly.

thanks for your insights. quite interesting.