Down with WIAW

[Tokeman]

I think we should just get rid of the WIAW thread all together. People quote it like its scripture. Many other forums do fine without a thread like that, and have a bigger variety of trades/giveaways because of not having one. This way users can determine what THEY feel the tracker is worth TO THEM, and decide to trade or give away invites based off of personal experience, instead of some whack post about rarity.

I mean come on, you ever see some one here take an oink invite and give TT? Happens elsewhere, but not here, just because of that thread people think "oh man, i can't trade it for that, its not worth the same" instead of thinking, "I need oink, i got this TT invite, so lets make a trade"

I'm not condoning trading with this post, in fact, I think it would help giveaways too. I just saw a user on another board give 3 TT invites away and the day before 6 oink invites. We maybe see 1 invite like that being givin every few weeks, and the giveaways take days.

Lets help new users see the torrent world the way it should be seen, down with WIAW!

Feel free to post your opinion here, with me or against me, I'd like to know what you all think about this idea.

[Polarbear]

make a poll

edit: great :-)

[p1r4t3]

u Tokeman are wasting ur time.

Its not going to happen.

and that is a FACT.

[Tokeman]

Maybe not, but without discussion, how would a site ever progress?
Its not like the WIAW thread is doing so much good here that it is beyond critisism.

[awoeonip]

it's sad that people take the WIAW thread so seriously, but it has it's value. Helps keep the newbies from getting scammed :)

[zizo85]

Maybe not, but without discussion, how would a site ever progress?
Its not like the WIAW thread is doing so much good here that it is beyond critisism.
agree with u
and thats wasting of time

[sear]

u Tokeman are wasting ur time.

Its not going to happen.

and that is a FACT.

exactly...I voted yes but this poll is pointless hate to burst your bubble guys but the powers that be see a purpose in it and that's not going to change :ph34r:

If you really want to help contribute to the new ratings thread stickied at the top of the BT section.

[p1r4t3]

If you really want to help contribute to the new ratings thread stickied at the top of the BT section.

Word

[Tokeman]

u Tokeman are wasting ur time.

Its not going to happen.

and that is a FACT.

exactly...I voted yes but this poll is pointless hate to burst your bubble guys but the powers that be see a purpose in it and that's not going to change :ph34r:

If you really want to help contribute to the new ratings thread stickied at the top of the BT section.

Wow, wish I would have seen that before. I kept looking for a new sticky on the invites section, no wonder I could not find it :P

And the powers that be saw a purpose when it was suggested/started originally, and the only way that will ever change, is if they see good reason to change it. If no one ever gathers peoples opinions, there will never be any reason to question it. But if a vast majority of people don't find use in it (I'm not saying that is the case) then why shouldn't it be considered to remove it? Isn't this site for the community, not the founders?

[sear]

to question it. But if a vast majority of people don't find use in it (I'm not saying that is the case) then why shouldn't it be considered to remove it?

that's not going to happen unless people decide to contribute to the new thread with reviews and ratings.

[embolism]

Down with WIAW (after I get all the high level trackers)
:P

[p1r4t3]

......

the WIAW and the traders are not going anywhere. The new thread was to try and persuade new users not to take the path of trading, thats it...

Now, if u dont understand whats happening at fst heres a little detail for ya :

1) Traders only stop trading when they got into all the trackers they want, and then become community people and start posting as though they are elite

2) hardcore traders dont stop trading even then, they continue trading and finally , if they have resources, start trackers. of their own

3) Some traders who fail to trade join the anti trading bandwagon to make staff give them invites

4) there are some genuine people who are against trading or
dont trade. these are real community folk and are known widely throughout the community.


So thats what you have there... the wiaw will always be there for traders and the new thread for others.....

:01:

[wrongun92]

well, I think it gives the beginners as to what their trackers are worth. It tells them if they already have a good tracker.

[sear]

well, I think it gives the beginners as to what their trackers are worth. It tells them if they already have a good tracker.

you're mistaken it tells beginners if they have a "rare" tracker.

[Polarbear]

well, I think it gives the beginners as to what their trackers are worth. It tells them if they already have a good tracker.

you should decide yourself what the tracker is worth to you.

if you like it, you don't want to lose it.

you don't need a ranking for this.

the problem is, that many people who start actually like the tracker their on. but then they see it is low ranked and it's not cool.

that's it - the hunt begins :D

[Submission]

anti-traders at it again.

If you dont like trading dont come here.

[Dr_Green_Thumb]

if you don't like anti-traders don't come here

[dave12]

yes we should get rid of WIAw thread definately

[SpiderPig]

Becareful of those Telescreens :(

You might be sent to the Ministry of Love.. or even worse.. room 101

[Gish]

......

the WIAW and the traders are not going anywhere. The new thread was to try and persuade new users not to take the path of trading, thats it...

Now, if u dont understand whats happening at fst heres a little detail for ya :

1) Traders only stop trading when they got into all the trackers they want, and then become community people and start posting as though they are elite

2) hardcore traders dont stop trading even then, they continue trading and finally , if they have resources, start trackers. of their own

3) Some traders who fail to trade join the anti trading bandwagon to make staff give them invites

4) there are some genuine people who are against trading or
dont trade. these are real community folk and are known widely throughout the community.


So thats what you have there... the wiaw will always be there for traders and the new thread for others.....

:01:
your not getting the point of the post. he did not ask for a run down of how FST works. he simply wanted to know what people think of the WIAW thread.

What the WIAW thread does is make people into mindless morons who say "man I really need that FTN/SCT etc...its a level 9 uh.. can I get one man"

when they should first learn more about the community then deside if they want to pursue it.
then maybe the invite section would look more like "I heard FTN has a great Community with good speed and quality torrents"

I am not against or for trading but this is my opinion.


anti-traders at it again.
If you dont like trading dont come here.

no you should not be here..everyone can have an opinion.
if you don't like it than go spam somewhere else!

[kirktrix]

In the past, WIAW thread really influences newbies especially those that are just starting getting some trackers, I am one of them..... and now that another ranking system is existing this will help newbies to fully understand what really the trackers worth....So no need to get rid of the WIAW thread.:)

[Brenya]

it is common for people for omit vital information about things in order to advocate or condemn.

WIAW thread does not just list the rarity. It also provides one complete list of the popular trackers with descriptions, and provides us with respected 'opinions' of those who compiled it.

And just because some people "quote it like scripture" doesn't mean every one should suffer. I think an unspoken social rule has been created that WIAW thread is NOT scripture; but semi-accurate, opinionated ratings.

If what I say is true, then condemning the WIAW thread because some people are too small-minded to disregard it as the de facto standard of all trading is fallacious.

[Skiz]

I think we should just get rid of the WIAW thread all together. People quote it like its scripture.

The information contained in the thread is accurate and useful.

Various members interpretation of the thread is no reason to "get rid of it".

[shazzar]

Dont need to get rid of it, just need another with even better tracker content information to accompany it so people can make a balanced decision. I dont think the wiaw has good detailed and uptodate content. personally find it hard to choose what tracker to go for and to be honest used to make decisions based purely on ranking instead.

[sense]

Since I don't trade I don't really care. However, it's nice to be able to go in there and read a few reviews.

[blackbird]

Since I don't trade I don't really care. However, it's nice to be able to go in there and read a few reviews.
:yup:

if you take down the WIAW , you take down a whole lotta tracker information with it .. the only problem with the WIAW is the "level" . but if you could just ignore it , its a perfect review thread :shutup:

[Grind$oFine]

The WIAW thread is basically FST's Bible...
Provided as a guide to help,
and misinterpreted by so many people... ;)

[Touareg]

voted .. no

[Linkindark]

soooooooooooooooooo selfish

[Rommell]

Definitely will vote .... Noooooo

Trader 4 Ever

[Polarbear]

look where all these 1 post traders are coming from :D

[GhostRetired19]

i voted .. no :)

[Polarbear]

deleted

[kapo07]

WIAW thread is the most interesting thread on fst i think without it we willnt be able to make trading and we willnt get high trackers because without it who have tl will ask for ftwr to exchange it with WIAW thread must not be removed and i think it will be stupid to remove such athread which is the first thread that i open when i get in fst

[7oOoDa]

Nooooooooooo

[GhostRetired19]

voted .. no

[Tbag]

it's ok for me, if you have better idea about that, then maybe it can be removed. So voted NO.

[Tbag]

ops.sorry.

[Tbag]

ops. sorry.

[GhostRetired19]

voted .. no :) ...

[Tbag]

ops.sorry

[GhostRetired19]

ohhh ... sory

[limpingaret]

wt* :dry:, down with wiaw ,i like the new thread WTAW :yup:

[sunrise01]

anti-traders at it again.

If you dont like trading dont come here.

:yup::yup::yup:yes ... don't come here

voted :: No

WIAW down = BitTorrent Invites Section Down

[FSTer]

You are dreaming, kid.

[Polarbear]

anti-traders at it again.

If you dont like trading dont come here.

:yup::yup::yup:yes ... don't come here

voted :: No

WIAW down = BitTorrent Invites Section Down


are you afraid nobody wants your invites anymore? ;)

[V.E.N.O.M]

You are dreaming, kid.
he is swimming in the sea of deams.

[zedex]

where the hell is this thread that everybody talks about ?

can someone give a link ?

[Rommell]

we will Fight you Anit-Kids (Trader) wherever he found ..

Trader 4 Ever

[pECi]

what a delightful part time activity...making users just to say no and vote with no...well...go on

[SiNa]

where the hell is this thread that everybody talks about ?

can someone give a link ?

http://filesharingtalk.com/vb3/f-bittorrent-invites-90/t-what-invites-worth-with-reviews-and-ratings-142446

[silhoutte]

Yep, I never knew there was a thread like that until last month. lol

It doesn't matter to me if you take it away, or leave it as it is. Anyway, there will be so many funny threads to read daily, till the thread is there. :lol:

[tuning]

No, off course. :-O

[itS0v3r]

What the point in this ?
"Anti traders": you dont want trading ? so go from here and leave people do what they want .
And wiaw shouldn'be removed

[silhoutte]

what a delightful part time activity...making users just to say no and vote with no...well...go on

lol, Its true. It's just like adding publicity to the thread. Anyway many more users will come to know about it and will vote 'NO' knowing really wtf it is. :lol:

I knew about that thread from a previous thread like this. That time, there was no poll, otherwise due to my ignorance i would have also voted 'NO'. :lol::lol:

I think, this kind of discussions should be within the 'invite trading thread' itself so that people who are interested in trade will only vote and the poll results can be considered as somewhat satisfactory. What would these threads gain when even some TOM, DICK and HARRY (one of them is ME :lol::lol::lol:) can vote having no access to it?

[zizoor99]

What the point in this ?
"Anti traders": you dont want trading ? so go from here and leave people do what they want .
And wiaw shouldn'be removed


yeah man that's it

[Polarbear]

you all must be very desperate. otherwise you would not make a new account here just to vote.

what are you afraid of? :D

[Maroko]

"Anti trader": got a good trackers by trading
and now want remove this thread cuz
u wouldnt trade
why ?
no its not removed

if u want remove this thread
give me ftn and sct invites for free

right?

[spark]

"Anti trader": got a good trackers by trading
and now want remove this thread cuz
u wouldnt trade
why ?
no its not removed

if u want remove this thread
give me ftn and sct invites for free

right?

So you are the best (or should say the worst) example! You want to trade your WIAW Bible for FTN and SCT! Maybe you'll trade your family also!

What about your brothers in trade? Did you care for them when you agree on removing the WIAW Bible in exchange for 2 invites?

There is a real trader soul here...

[silhoutte]

"Anti trader": got a good trackers by trading
and now want remove this thread cuz
u wouldnt trade
why ?
no its not removed

if u want remove this thread
give me ftn and sct invites for free

right?

Removing the thread will not make you lose your opportunity to get them but help to get them fast IMO. Removing it doesn't mean you shouldn't trade. Instead it helps the new comers trade for USE, rather than making them misunderstand the purpose we are here. It doesn't make sense to me if i'm here for a childish hobby like stamp/coin collection rather than collecting some nice porno. :lol:

I don't object a thread being there and it won't affect me either way (i'm not an anti-trader, but will trade if i need anything badly). I guess it shouldn't affect the anti-traders too.:lol::lol:

Edit: Spark,Please edit your thread. The 'family' 'brothers' and all that. Flaming isn't the way things work.

I'm out of this thread anyways.

[briand5379]

All the thread does is put a value on something so invites can be traded. I'd rather see the value of a site judged by content and speed rather then rarity.

[pECi]

you all must be very desperate. otherwise you would not make a new account here just to vote.

what are you afraid of? :D

the 4th coming of the messiah

[Skiz]

Dont need to get rid of it, just need another with even better tracker content information to accompany it so people can make a balanced decision. I dont think the wiaw has good detailed and uptodate content. personally find it hard to choose what tracker to go for and to be honest used to make decisions based purely on ranking instead.

Take a look around once in a while. (http://filesharingtalk.com/vb3/f-bittorrent-43/t-what-trackers-worth-content-speed-pre-time-etc-235742)

:frusty:

[! ANGEL !]

sure never
what?
remove this thread

no no no:angry:

[Skiz]

sure never
what?
remove this thread

no no no:angry:

Good point. Well represented.

[torrent man]

no i hate (anti traders)

[spark]

no i hate (anti traders)

Thank you kokoo...

Did you vote twice? It is good for your English...

[spark]

no i hate (anti traders)
me to

F**k off!!

[Skiz]

As intellectual as this conversation is...... closed.