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o770
10-15-2007, 06:40 PM
Why don't the tracker, index, search and free engines have subcategories for lossless music? Why? Only one free site would certainly concentrate most of the restricted contents exclusively shared among members of the well known groups, namely Oink, Pedro's, eTree and Demonoid.

There are a dozen of topics debating sharing of lossless music, so there are interesteds. So please tell me why the lossless contents disperse and lack or concentrate, if public or private.

xJohnxSmithx
10-15-2007, 07:00 PM
oink, has almost everything lossless. Flac is the lossless format that everyone is using, and there are lots of people who only use FLAC.

icotitanik
10-15-2007, 07:00 PM
actually, there is a whole tracker specialized (e****) to lossless music

Skiz
10-15-2007, 07:03 PM
Read the original thread starters question. :frusty:

Bo0ddha
10-15-2007, 07:34 PM
Most music trackers are just scene trackers. Oink is one of the few that is not. I can not speak for e**** or pedro's since I don't use them, but the rest are just scene. Most people don't really want flac files. It's too hard to get the upload back. Even people on OiNK download mp3 more often than flac.

Daniel
10-15-2007, 07:52 PM
I don't really understand your problem, o770. While there are no search engines/site crawlers with lossless/FLAC categories that I know of, it's not that difficult to search for them. Some sites offer advanced searches (with TorrentSpy you can limit the size of a torrent ie) but generally, searching for "FLAC" alone brings more than 1.5k results. That solution is not ideal, but it works.

In regard to what Bo0ddha said: MP3 is the most popular medium and most shared medium for music on the web, that has been the case for close to a decade and it won't change anytime soon. Lossless audio is becoming increasingly popular and there are quite a few trackers to promote this music but it is still largely limited to a small group of people who have the equipment to fully enjoy the additional download. Anyone simply uploading the music to his or her iPod won't care for encodes above mp3 192k.

anekoik
10-15-2007, 08:00 PM
Read the original thread starters question. :frusty:

I will try to answer, i hope i understood the question :unsure:,

I guess a lot of people don't know anything about loseless,

try to question people around you, everybody ,nowadays, has heard about MP3,

but if you say flac, ape...

this fact concerns also the sharing comunity,

I must also say it 's frequent to see encoders, knowing nothing about audio quality (but they say they know),
then...:(

Skiz
10-15-2007, 08:15 PM
There was only one question:


Why don't the tracker, index, search and free engines have subcategories for lossless music?

th0r
10-15-2007, 08:24 PM
I can not speak for e**** or pedro's since I don't use them

E**** doesn't have scene lossless uploads as far as I can tell. I didn't even know the scene put out lossless music. God help us all if they did.

Maybe lossless music isn't a big enough interest for regular warez-hunting public tracker goers. I wouldn't download [lossless music] off of a public tracker because I couldn't trust the rip to be error-free.

nikmash232
10-15-2007, 08:26 PM
I can not speak for e**** or pedro's since I don't use them

E**** doesn't have an scene lossless uploads as far as I can tell. I didn't even know the scene put out lossless music. God help us all if they did.

Maybe lossless music isn't a big enough interest for regular warez-hunting public tracker goers. I wouldn't download [lossless music] off of a public tracker because I couldn't trust the rip to be error free.

thats why e****, oink, and pedros rock!

anekoik
10-15-2007, 08:37 PM
There was only one question:


Why don't the tracker, index, search and free engines have subcategories for lossless music?

oups sorry :(,

thanks,
i think i started to answer it,

maybe you can find people talking about loseless, but i guess a lot of people has never heard about it,
then it's not as popular as you say,
try asking around you, you'll be surprised

A second reason is it's not so convenient for common user,

Imagine, you use a search engine, you want a dvd, you'll obtain,
an disc image or separate files,
quite easy to burn,

second example, you want a CD,you 'll obtain loseless files, you'll have to find the decoder, to decompress it, then you'll be able to burn it,

for someone who doesn't want to make a lot of effort (having an account, maintain a ratio), it becomes quite boring

Bo0ddha
10-15-2007, 09:24 PM
I've never seen scene lossless. I meant the other trackers are mainly just scene mp3 releases while oink has everything. People who care that much about music quality to want lossless know better than to go hunting for it on public sites.

davidw89
10-16-2007, 12:28 AM
I use flac over mp3 files..although its 50 50.
Although i'd love to find losleess music outside oink, that is only a mere dream xd!!

blackbird
10-16-2007, 02:50 AM
Although i'd love to find losleess music outside oink, that is only a mere dream xd!!

btmusic.eu and E**** are trackers specialised in FLAC

o770
10-16-2007, 05:24 PM
I haven't suggested it because I thought either I was dreaming or somebody would think of it, discussing the topic. I beleive e-mails should be sent out asking for the lossless music subcategory to be created - Mininova, IsoHunt, all of the kind could well have it. Soon enough uploaders and downloaders of lossless music content should pay special attention to that, making more serious use of public sites.

All about the protocol, more particularly the method of pieces arrangement in the Torrent files guarantees the content can't be altered. So when the tracker is (say) eTree, chances of ripping errors are the same whether the public or the private site hosts the Torrent. The majority of the lossless content in the public sites is ok as far as I can tell.

What do the private groups protect mostly? The share ratio! Has anybody thought quality was it?

Polarbear
10-16-2007, 05:36 PM
oink has very high quality standards and an easy to keep minimum ratio.

one word about lossless:

people don't hear the difference between v0 and flac in a double blind test. has been proven lots of times.

Skiz
10-16-2007, 05:56 PM
ffs... I'm closing this since these simpletons can't read a cognitive question.