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slammy_dunken

07-12-2003, 07:21 PM

Do we have to start these debates again? nVidia makes well-known and stable cards, but their latest cards are a waste of money, even though their GeForce FX 5900 is the fastyest card right now. To me, ATi makes a good card, especially their All-In-Wonder series. Those are the best cards that they make (in my opinion).

Blaster.Master

07-12-2003, 10:55 PM

i read that the new ati 9800 pro is much better than the new nvidia and the fan is much silent

Spindulik

07-12-2003, 11:17 PM

From what I have tested on cards that I have owned and tried....

NVIDIA TNT2 32MB video card is so much better than the ATI Radeon 7000 with 64MB DDR.

My ATI TV Wonder capture card is fantastic! But it is not compatible with the ATI Radeon 7000 64mb DDR.

My "new" GeForce4 MMx 440 64MB is soooo much better than all of the cards described above. It even works perfect with my ATI TV Wonder card.

Many 3D video game companies design their software to be compatible with NVIDIA drivers and cards.

I reccommend NVIDIA over ATI, so far.

"The Avatar Man"

07-12-2003, 11:39 PM

Originally posted by Salim@12 July 2003 - 20:13
Everyone says that ati is the best which it is might be cuz its a crapload of money! But I like nvidia cuz its a well known company!
so you like n sync cause its a well known group?
BTW if you never heard of ati you got no business messing with your pc you'll only mess it up.

"The Avatar Man"

07-12-2003, 11:42 PM

Originally posted by Spindulik@13 July 2003 - 00:17

Many 3D video game companies design their software to be compatible with NVIDIA drivers and cards.

LMAO
can you name ONE DECENT AND RECENT (last two years)game that is not compatible with ATI's Radeon series?

wienerschnitzel

07-13-2003, 12:55 AM

I use matrox mostly. but thats only if you do a lot of 2D stuff like video editing, CAD and effects.

In my other computer i have a ATi. Never had any problems with it other then Enter the Matrix. But thats because i had a 7200 and it said I needed a 8000. Oh well. I still managed to beat the game even with bad graphics

super_science_monkey

07-13-2003, 01:43 AM

does anyone know what the nvidea card equalilent is to a RADEON 7500 64MB DDR???

slammy_dunken

07-13-2003, 02:47 AM

Originally posted by "The Avatar Man"+12 July 2003 - 17:42--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE ("The Avatar Man" @ 12 July 2003 - 17:42)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Spindulik@13 July 2003 - 00:17

Many 3D video game companies design their software to be compatible with NVIDIA drivers and cards.

LMAO
can you name ONE DECENT AND RECENT (last two years)game that is not compatible with ATI's Radeon series? [/b][/quote]
Well nVidia and EA (that's Electronic Arts) are making some scheme that there are special features on EA games that can only be seen/used if you're running a nVidia card... <_<

Spindulik

07-13-2003, 03:13 AM

Originally posted by "The Avatar Man"+12 July 2003 - 16:42--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE ("The Avatar Man" @ 12 July 2003 - 16:42)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Spindulik@13 July 2003 - 00:17

Many 3D video game companies design their software to be compatible with NVIDIA drivers and cards.

LMAO
can you name ONE DECENT AND RECENT (last two years)game that is not compatible with ATI's Radeon series? [/b][/quote]
YES!
Unreal tournament2003! Very choppy with ATI Radeon 7000

Try these 3D demos. Quite amazing! (http://www.nvidia.com/view.asp?PAGE=power_demos)

Blaster.Master

07-13-2003, 03:46 AM

hey chill avatar man, it's just something i read in a computer magazine. besides i do my research in anything before i buy it, i just want to hear some opinion from ppl that actually have first hand experience with the product.
I'm thinking on getting me a ATI radeon 9700 pro all in one wonder.
And by the way N sync is a very popular group because record companies pays the radio station to play thier songs over and over againt till they brainwash you to like it. My opinion....they sucks, but my music taste have nothing to do with this thread.

adamp2p

07-13-2003, 06:38 AM

Check out this tread from X bit labs between Nvidia lovers and ATI freaks (http://www.xbitlabs.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1072)

"The Avatar Man"

07-13-2003, 02:38 PM

Originally posted by Spindulik+13 July 2003 - 04:13--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Spindulik @ 13 July 2003 - 04:13)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> </div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE ("The Avatar Man" @ 12 July 2003 - 16:42)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Spindulik@13 July 2003 - 00:17

Many 3D video game companies design their software to be compatible with NVIDIA drivers and cards.

LMAO
can you name ONE DECENT AND RECENT (last two years)game that is not compatible with ATI's Radeon series? [/b][/quote]
YES!
Unreal tournament2003! Very choppy with ATI Radeon 7000

Try these 3D demos. Quite amazing! (http://www.nvidia.com/view.asp?PAGE=power_demos) [/b][/quote]
That's because ITS AN OLD CARD!!!
NOT BECAUSE ITS ATI.
Runs like magic on an >>>>ATI<<<< Radeon 9800 Pro
that's like saying that unreal 2003 doesn't support nvidia cards cause it runs like crap on a gforce 2

3RA1N1AC

07-13-2003, 04:59 PM

both ATI and Nvidia make great cards. Nvidia traditionally has better, more stable driver files... but in the past year, ATI have finally started catching up and even though you are still more likely to have a software compatibility problem with ATI than Nvidia, the chance of actually encountering a major bug does keep getting smaller.

and yeah, you are not going to get a straight answer from anybody when you start a thread like this, because everyone will just start bickering about incorrect info, personal biases, etc. it's like asking whether Coke or Pepsi is better. people can argue for days about it, and you still won't get a correct answer.

may as well just go read some computer review sites and figure out which brand offers the features you want, which is pretty much the only way they distinguish from each other.

ilw

07-13-2003, 05:55 PM

just go to http://www.tomshardware.com look at the benchmarks, and the comments about what sort of extras u get and the conclusions they make. That'll give u some of the most respected and unbiased experts opinions. Geforce isn't better than Ati and the reverse is also true, however, certain cards are better and some are better value.

Pitbul

07-14-2003, 02:39 AM

Lucasarts amd the game Star Wars Galaxies does not support any of the Mobile ATI cards.

3RA1N1AC

07-14-2003, 03:40 AM

Originally posted by Pitbul@13 July 2003 - 18:39
Lucasarts amd the game Star Wars Galaxies does not support any of the Mobile ATI cards.
yeah but

"Supported Chipsets at the time of release:
ATI Radeon 7200/7500
ATI Radeon 8500/9000
ATI Radeon 9500/9700
Matrox Parhelia
NVIDIA GeForce 256
NVIDIA GeForce 2 family
NVIDIA GeForce 3 family
NVIDIA GeForce 4 family
NVIDIA GeForceFX family"

i wouldn't be surprised if a patch eventually comes out, that supports laptop Radeon Mobility chips. it wouldn't be that difficult.

WebCheF

07-28-2003, 05:13 AM

Curious? I didn't look, going to do that next,.lol,

Didn't ATI say no more vid cards, just mobo, and partner chip sales? Think it was on Tom's hardware?

Don't quote me, but why buy a product, if your not sure about the brand, I wouldn't get the one that might not offer support for the future....

Pitbul

07-28-2003, 05:59 AM

Webchef how can that be when they are already starting the process to come out witha new Vid Card? use common sense before posting that crap. also Half Life 2 will be most optimized for ATI Radeon 9600+ cards.

metalrebelzz

07-28-2003, 06:10 AM

ok ok i'm not even going to get into this debate again.....

just a few comments.....
ATI is good, but since their 9700 Pro (the best card to date) is still hovering around $300...not many people will buy it....

Nvidia makes great cards, which is what I have.....thought their FX project went sour and now they can barely compete with ATI for the fastest card.....

honestly, i'm an Nvidia fan, but the ATI cards DO kick ass....

*planning on getting a Nvidia Geforce4 Ti4600 or better soon*

and almost ALL cardsd are supported by new games, dont gimme that crap about not supported.....as long as its a 3d enabled card...it doesnt matter....it just wont be "optimized" for that game, which is a bunch of SHIT.....

currently, i have a Geforce2 MX and it runs UT2003 just fine....slows down in the most graphic-intensive maps, but otherwise it runs fine...have all settings set to med-high.....amazing, actually...just took a few tweaks and it's very playable...

and since the UT2 engine IS the most processor and GPU intensive game out at the moment....it runs nice....

now when HL2 and Doom 3 come out...THEN we'll be screwed.....we're ALL guna need high-end cards for those....

oh fuck, i ended up getting into this fucking debate.....damn.....oh well......

Twist3r

07-28-2003, 06:16 AM

this is alittle off topic but HL2 and Doom 3 are gonna kick ass!!!
im not gonna worry about cards n shit cause im getting them for xbox i dunno if hl2 is comming out for xbox but doom 3 defintily is and thats gonna rule!!!

as for video cards i dont care what brand i get as long as it is good enough to play gta vc and then im happy :D

Schmiggy_JK23

07-28-2003, 07:03 AM

Originally posted by metalrebelzz@28 July 2003 - 01:10
ok ok i'm not even going to get into this debate again.....

just a few comments.....
ATI is good, but since their 9700 Pro (the best card to date)
Your about 4 months out of date.

The current top of the line cards are the Geforce 5900 ultra, 128 meg version at around 340$, and the 256meg version at about 410$. ATI's are the 256 meg 9800 pro, for about 440$, and the 128 meg version for about 440$. Note these prices came from price watch.

Any 4 of these cards are simply amazing, and will run anything out this year. Rumor has it that hl2 may have some issues with the anti aliasing on the 5900 geforce cards, but a work around is there. But with either card, you could not go wrong.

Pitbul

07-28-2003, 08:55 AM

Originally posted by Schmiggy_JK23+28 July 2003 - 00:03--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Schmiggy_JK23 @ 28 July 2003 - 00:03)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-metalrebelzz@28 July 2003 - 01:10
ok ok i'm not even going to get into this debate again.....

just a few comments.....
ATI is good, but since their 9700 Pro (the best card to date)
Your about 4 months out of date.

The current top of the line cards are the Geforce 5900 ultra, 128 meg version at around 340$, and the 256meg version at about 410$. ATI's are the 256 meg 9800 pro, for about 440$, and the 128 meg version for about 440$. Note these prices came from price watch.

Any 4 of these cards are simply amazing, and will run anything out this year. Rumor has it that hl2 may have some issues with the anti aliasing on the 5900 geforce cards, but a work around is there. But with either card, you could not go wrong. [/b][/quote]
no actually the ATI 9800 Pro is the best card still beating out the FX 5900 in performance.

Schmiggy_JK23

07-28-2003, 08:59 AM

actually no... I can show you benchmarks of each of them beating each other, depending on the game, the resolution, and the levels of AA... each card has its better benchmarks.

argue all you want, or read up at tomshardware, or hardocp.com...

WebCheF

07-29-2003, 07:25 AM

Originally posted by Pitbul@28 July 2003 - 06:59
Webchef how can that be when they are already starting the process to come out witha new Vid Card? use common sense before posting that crap. also Half Life 2 will be most optimized for ATI Radeon 9600+ cards.
Pitbul, I wasn't looking for a critique on my post..

I just post an uneducated reply, "which I mentioned in my post' no need to flame me.

I just thought someone may have a positive coment on the post.

Thanks for the update thogh. Cheers..

btw, just bought a new card PNY nvidiaFX5200ulltra 128ddr nice addon, even works great with my"ATI TV WONDER"

One more thing, I am glad that ATI is still in the card biz, love the competitivenes between the ATI and NVIDIA cards.

silverccrow

07-29-2003, 03:51 PM

Twister Posted on 28 July 2003 - 06:16
  this is alittle off topic but HL2 and Doom 3 are gonna kick ass!!!
im not gonna worry about cards n shit cause im getting them for xbox i dunno if hl2 is comming out for xbox but doom 3 defintily is and thats gonna rule!!!

as for video cards i dont care what brand i get as long as it is good enough to play gta vc and then im happy 

Xbox Graphics quality sux ! And I Have a felling that xbox will have low fps cos xbox sistem is not apropiate 4 that awesome graphics maybe the programers will remove special effects and also resolution will be a crap !

Twigboy

07-29-2003, 07:31 PM

Originally posted by metalrebelzz@28 July 2003 - 06:10

and almost ALL cardsd are supported by new games, dont gimme that crap about not supported.
I have to agree with you.Maybe back in the day of the Voodoo cards when certain games only ran with Glide this was an issue,but anybody willing to bring out a good game that doesn't support one of the major cards are foolish.

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