View Full Version : Looks like STMusic is the best
Probability
10-24-2007, 03:45 AM
Already has 57188 registered users vs softmp3's 24,344. Both have the same amount of torrents.
The "best" what?
Leftover, second-rate, music tracker?
If they both have the same amount of torrents..woudln't it mean softmp3 is a better site considering it has less members?..
Probability
10-24-2007, 03:52 AM
yeah basically.
I meant to write ...next best.
I'm not saying its good like oink but its whats left. Its growing, just needs a crapload more torrents.
@J.A., why would it make it better? Means less seeds and peers. STM has nearly double the # of users. Unless half of them do not care about their ratio then they become leechers and then seeders.
I think they're both awful to be quite honest.
Trance and electronic music as far as the proverbial eye can see, without a hint of variety in the selection.
Thanks, but no thanks.
I'll take my Usenet and Soulseek any day. :happy:
mrnobody
10-24-2007, 03:56 AM
you can play with those until OiNK returns but sticking them 'forever'...please, not me.
Probability
10-24-2007, 03:57 AM
Stmusic aint that bad, its no oink but there's no alternative. I'm just trying to point people to whats left.
I tried soulseek a while back but there's so many files, bitrates, same song has 10 different sizes, different lengths and different bitrates.
If oink comes back, it wont be for a long time. In the meantime you gotta download music :)
yeah basically.
I meant to write ...next best.
I'm not saying its good like oink but its whats left. Its growing, just needs a crapload more torrents.
@J.A., why would it make it better? Means less seeds and peers. STM has nearly double the # of users. Unless half of them do not care about their ratio then they become leechers and then seeders.
You need to look at the seeder:leecher ratio to make a decent evaluation.
Probability
10-24-2007, 04:05 AM
They're both good, even 1 seeder is good for music cause its so small most of the time.
They're both good, even 1 seeder is good for music cause its so small most of the time.
Define "good". How about posting current stats?
Probability
10-24-2007, 04:10 AM
Why are you so against stmusic and softmp3?
I dont know stats for stm, but softmp3 is 3874% seeder/leecher ratio.
Holy shit STM went up 120 users in half an hour.
I'm not against either of them, but providing the appellation of "best" for either is a bit nonsensical.
They both provide a specialized type of music for a select listening group. They "advertise" themselves as 0-day and scene, when they are anything but.
If you're going to go with the best, go with something which offers an equal selection of musical genres and an immense amount of files such as, again, Soulseek or Usenet.
EDIT: 3874% is awful, by the way.
Probability
10-24-2007, 04:31 AM
yes Skizo, i agree with you its not the best. Ive said it numerous times already.
But for me its either stmusic or soulseek and I prefer torrenting for music.
57360 users so far.
usenet costs money
soulseek i dont trust it.
38.74 seeds for 1 leech is a pretty good ratio. FTN doesn't have a ratio that good.
Stmusic aint that bad, its no oink but there's no alternative. I'm just trying to point people to whats left.
I tried soulseek a while back but there's so many files, bitrates, same song has 10 different sizes, different lengths and different bitrates.
If oink comes back, it wont be for a long time. In the meantime you gotta download music :)
Yes, selection is terrible thing. :wacko:
yes Skizo, i agree with you its not the best. Ive said it numerous times already.
How many of your 9 posts does this "numerous" consist of? :lol:
Anyhow, yes, oink offered quite a bit as far as music went, but even in the torrent world there are better alternatives than STMusic and/or softMP3.
Probability
10-24-2007, 04:41 AM
Is there something better than stmusic? Go ahead and post it.
How many times do I have to tell you its not the best? Are you dumb or something try reading posts. I tell you multiple times and now you're arguing with me about how many times....its greater than 1.
57401 users
psxcite
10-24-2007, 07:12 AM
Anyhow, yes, oink offered quite a bit as far as music went, but even in the torrent world there are better alternatives than STMusic and/or softMP3.
Please enlighten us. I would love to start checking out a few alternative trackers now that Oink is sausage.
Although I love usenet, the lack of comments attached to posts makes it difficult at times to evaluate a download. That's one benefit trackers have over usenet. I can't count the number of times someone posted on Oink that track "such-and-such" is bad or is a transcode. Saves me bandwidth and time.
Unstable1
10-24-2007, 07:17 AM
ive just joined stmusic and softmp3 today, in case either of them become the "new" oink.
Grind$oFine
10-24-2007, 07:26 AM
stmusic and softmp3 were both nice sites to use on the side of oink..
but now, when you don't have a good source beside them... they just look bad.
i'm so glad I have IT or I'd be jumping off walls trying to find some decent music today.
PS: VIPMusic > STMusic+SoftMP3, figured I should throw that in there. :yup:
Probability
10-24-2007, 08:39 AM
vipmusic blows
soulseek:
you download from 1 peer per file not like limewire, kazaa
you have queues
slow download speed, like 5kb/s-15kb/s
questionable varying lengths on songs, like the same song will appear 3:00 mins long and 3:35 mins long
transcodes
no comments on the files, with torrents you can post comments about the file
shitty useless "rooms"
Torrents are the way to go.
Unstable1
10-24-2007, 12:12 PM
i refuse to pay for usenet.
its torrents or nothing afaic.
p1r4t3
10-24-2007, 02:10 PM
jeez break it up there gents, to each his own. try out and if u like it use it
Probability
10-25-2007, 07:01 AM
Stmusic is opening up user uploads both scene and user encoded mp3's.
Daniel
10-25-2007, 07:28 AM
First in regard to Soulseek: of course there are advantages to the torrent method of filesharing, thus a client like slsk will lack in some areas. The "variable length" of songs you mentioned can at least sometimes be explained by mislabeled music and I've more than often found some gem or live version that way. Back when I still used Soulseek, I loved the idea of themed rooms because you'll find users with similar interests to yours and their shared folders sometimes have gems you wouldn't have thought of searching for. So not everything is negative ;)
Stmusic is opening up user uploads both scene and user encoded mp3's.
While the poll on the main page looks impressive (67% of 3766 users voted that yes, they were oink users and just signed up there) on paper, there's little to suggest that STMusic is anything more than an established and good scene music tracker. Maybe that will change in time but for now, the tracker is not much different from filemp3 or other standard scene-music trackers. That's not really what oink was popular for ;)
Probability
10-25-2007, 07:55 AM
Theres a ton to suggest it. It has a 60,000 users and they are opening up user uploads. So not only does it have decent scene stuff but people will be able to upload their already downloaded scene albums and home made rips.
The next closest to size has 20,000 users.
namhvo
10-25-2007, 03:52 PM
User upload have been added.
Probability
10-25-2007, 07:17 PM
62,000 users and 300 user uploaded torrents in half a day. 14,000 scene torrents too.
Its officially the new oink.
blackbird
10-25-2007, 07:27 PM
2007-10-25 - A new server has been ordered to cope with the new unexpected increased userbase and deal with the 500 errors, it should be provisioned sometime next week. Thank you for your patience.
62,000 users and 300 user uploaded torrents in half a day. 14,000 scene torrents too.
Its officially the new oink.
finally they have decided to let users upload...! nice move :)
i love this tracker its good
but, they need to improve their design.... i think they are making nice moves, and with a new design more attractive they will got better chances.
Siedler
10-25-2007, 10:18 PM
The site gives me 500 - Internal Server Error.
stroj
10-25-2007, 10:32 PM
thats probably server overload, they really need to upgrade server
Probability
10-25-2007, 11:01 PM
yeah most of the oink userbase has gone to stmusic
Unstable1
10-26-2007, 12:06 AM
i reckon STMusic is going to be the new oink too.
dont worry about the Server 500 errors, thats due to overload from the new users, and they have ordered a new server to deal with this problem.
Daniel
10-26-2007, 12:19 AM
Yay, finally high quality music on STM. 320kbps cbr, vbr v0 and flac :) It's a good step for the tracker and as I said before, given time they'll grow member- and quality-wise. I still don't believe they'll ever be a second oink, but they are indeed on the way to becoming the best alternative out there.
briand5379
10-26-2007, 12:51 AM
They should have closed their sign up and did the necessary upgrades before allowing all the new user sign ups.
Bigger doesn't mean better.
LinkS v2.0
10-26-2007, 01:01 AM
the search there blows
Probability
10-26-2007, 01:20 AM
Search is fine. I`m sorry libble still sucks with its 5,000 users lol.
stephout
10-26-2007, 05:55 AM
I've been a user there for some time, the staff reacts quickly to suggestions (proof on the user upload piece).
This site had 16,000 users 4 days ago...give it some time, it will blow up.
Get in while you can...
namhvo
10-26-2007, 07:32 AM
I'll give ST thumbs up :thumbsup:
The moderators are really helpful and reacts quickly on suggestions as well as bug fix. They are adding new features all the time. It is now possible for user to upload stuff and they site are going through a major upgrade.
They new server should arrive next week and I am sure that ST can handle a lot more users. Sign up while it last because they will probably reach their limit shortly.
briand5379
10-26-2007, 09:37 AM
Multiple users is going to do nothing but put the site on the radar to be nabbed. I would have liked to see them handle the oink situation better.
Unstable1
10-26-2007, 01:27 PM
STMusic FTW.
Its where all the old Oinkers are heading to.
yeah stmusic is rocking!!!!
manofstyle
10-26-2007, 07:08 PM
63001 Registered Users.
STmusic definately needs some improvements to their site design. The site has potential, but they need to get it together if they want to keep a lot of the new members.
Brandon
10-26-2007, 07:17 PM
Surprised nobody else posted this..
http://www.billboard.com/bbcom/news/article_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1003663678
Kennedy and his piracy team is keeping mum on which other private trackers -- with such names as TranceTraffic, Exig[oh], VIP Music, stmusic, shareaza.com and Pedro's BT Music-are also in the IFPI's cross-hairs. "We expect [OiNK] users will start to migrate to some of these sites over the next few days. We are watching their movements," an IFPI spokesman says. "It's a case of 'watch this space.' "
Congrats on being the new target :)
Yah I just saw that a few minutes ago also there's this:
2007-10-26 - United we stand, divided we fall? - Comments
Whoa, so much happening lately: our CTO (Chief Technical Officer is still missing since September), Oink went down recently and VIPmusic was mentioned in the article at billboard.com as in "the IFPI's cross-hairs". Due to the fact that our CTO is still out of reach (more about our fears in the corresponding thread) we might suspend the operations. There are few things that I'd like to make clear: server HDD's are encrypted with AES and are locked out (only our CTO had access to the server because of security concerns) that is why user database would not be accessible to any third parties. Also unused donations will be sent to EFF (Electronic Frontier Foundation) which is fighting for free speech rights on the internet.
yoyogi4
10-26-2007, 07:53 PM
Surprised nobody else posted this..
http://www.billboard.com/bbcom/news/article_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1003663678
Kennedy and his piracy team is keeping mum on which other private trackers -- with such names as TranceTraffic, Exig[oh], VIP Music, stmusic, shareaza.com and Pedro's BT Music-are also in the IFPI's cross-hairs. "We expect [OiNK] users will start to migrate to some of these sites over the next few days. We are watching their movements," an IFPI spokesman says. "It's a case of 'watch this space.' "
Congrats on being the new target :)
Thanks B,
I think FST is being monitored and so is the WIAW thread,
already /delacct.php on stmusic too risky:ph34r:, as for the others I think I'll be relatively safe since they've completely closed signups.;)
Brandon
10-26-2007, 08:27 PM
Surprised nobody else posted this..
http://www.billboard.com/bbcom/news/article_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1003663678
Congrats on being the new target :)
Thanks B,
I think FST is being monitored and so is the WIAW thread,
already /delacct.php on stmusic too risky:ph34r:, as for the others I think I'll be relatively safe since they've completely closed signups.;)
Well, if you want honesty.. Chances are they're already there. Oink was apparently a 2 yr investigation, I wouldn't doubt these people signed up on every one of the sites listed as well as any other possible targets. Just because those other sties closed signups AFTER oink was busted, doesn't mean these other sites weren't already under investigation and therefore already compromised.
yoyogi4
10-26-2007, 09:06 PM
Thanks B,
I think FST is being monitored and so is the WIAW thread,
already /delacct.php on stmusic too risky:ph34r:, as for the others I think I'll be relatively safe since they've completely closed signups.;)
Well, if you want honesty.. Chances are they're already there. Oink was apparently a 2 yr investigation, I wouldn't doubt these people signed up on every one of the sites listed as well as any other possible targets. Just because those other sties closed signups AFTER oink was busted, doesn't mean these other sites weren't already under investigation and therefore already compromised.
AWWW crap:ph34r: Do you think they've infiltrated FTN, TT, BMTV etc?
If they've been investigating all these sites for a long time now, there's no point in locking out those sites since the oldest most or least active tracker member can be a spy watching the inner workings of the site, closing the signups thru invites etc. will just lock them in.
I'm sure ScT has 10% userbase from RIAA,MPAA, and IFPD :lol: since so many accs, are sold and traded daily. And they can be the best oldest most charismatic members.
Great. Now I'm super paranoid.:ph34r::ph34r::ph34r:
LET'S GET RID OF THE WIAW THREAD TO TAKE ALL SITES OFF THE RADAR!!!!
briand5379
10-26-2007, 10:40 PM
I'm willing to bet we're well past getting rid of the wiaw thread.
LinkS v2.0
10-26-2007, 11:47 PM
I'm willing to bet we're well past getting rid of the wiaw thread.
youre right the damage has already been done
PlainShane
10-27-2007, 02:08 AM
stmusic does not seem that bad... it needs more members though. The site itself is fast; yay.
It could use some more members (aka leechers). just a bunch of seeders sorta. I am grabbing a FLAC album!!!
Brandon
10-27-2007, 02:21 AM
Doesn't Ersan run stmusic? That should say enough on it's own IMO.
Tanchistu
10-27-2007, 07:38 AM
Who is Ersan?
briand5379
10-27-2007, 10:06 AM
Not everybody knows Ersan perhaps you want to provide more info.
Ersan
10-27-2007, 10:36 AM
stfu.
Ersan
10-27-2007, 10:37 AM
...
Ersan
10-27-2007, 10:48 AM
...
Ersan
10-27-2007, 10:51 AM
...end dupe
Tanchistu
10-27-2007, 12:06 PM
And why you had to repeat yourself?
Brandon
10-27-2007, 12:17 PM
:lol: I rest my case.
Average maturity level of a 14 yr old (5/10)
Average maturity level of Ersan (2/10)
satriani77
10-27-2007, 01:09 PM
Yeah, STmusic looks like a probable new oink..i hope they will apply an anti cheat script too
physter
10-27-2007, 02:40 PM
It's a bit short on Indie/Alternative torrents, hopefully that might change if ex-Oink users really are migrating there. I need my indie fix :(
marakesh
10-27-2007, 04:12 PM
Doubt it will be new Oink if they don't change their design...it's ugly and unfriendly,after some time it gets annoying. I could hang around Oink all day,in the other hand. :D
Funky torrents has good design,similar to Oinks,too bad the forums are in russian.
Probability
10-29-2007, 12:37 AM
Doubt it will be new Oink if they don't change their design...it's ugly and unfriendly,after some time it gets annoying. I could hang around Oink all day,in the other hand. :D
Funky torrents has good design,similar to Oinks,too bad the forums are in russian.
Pretty means nothing without people and torrents.
66,200 users say otherwise.
Building a userbase of 200,000 will take months, it'll take alot longer if you only have 5,000 people. Site design can change overnight, userbase can't.
I personally will take quality torrents over some pretty site design with features i hardly use.
vjcommunity
02-25-2008, 02:41 AM
does anyone have a stmusic invite, i'd love to trade for one
slimdogp
02-25-2008, 03:38 AM
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