Is This A Good Buy?

[ripley02]

http://www.walmart.com/catalog/product.gsp...3A41937%3A56811 (http://www.walmart.com/catalog/product.gsp?product_id=2194183&cat=56811&type=19&dept=3944&path=0%3A3944%3A3951%3A41937%3A56811)

i'll be getting a 15" flat panel monitor elsewhere but how good is the setup listed here?

is it good enough to play a lot of the newer release pc games?

[ilw]

It comes with a shite integrated & memory sharing video card which means that u'll probably have problems with quite a lot of the newest games. It also doesn't have an agp slot so there is practically no chance of upgrading the graphics capability. I wouldn't really recommend this too highly, but if u decide that the cheap price is more important i saw it cheaper at amazon. :P

[lynx]

$469.99 direct from HP (http://search.hp.com/gwuseng/redirect.html?url=http%3A//www.shopping.hp.com/cgi-bin/hpdirect/shopping/scripts/product_detail/product_detail_view.jsp%3Fproduct_code%3DDC470A%2523ABA%26script_name%3Dproduct.cgi&qt=pavilion+505N&pos=1&type=REG)

But not much capability for future upgrade (no AGP, slowish memory, only 2 free PCI slots)

You probably won't do much better for the price, but you can probably do a lot better for just a little more.

[endezeichen]

ok before you blow your money away on this check out www.cyberpowerinc.com. There you can custom build your pc. I paid 595 for mine:
2100 athalon-- not as big as 2.2 but perform like a 3.0 celeron(if they had it)
512 ddr 266mhz ram
nvidea 64 mb video
cd-rw, dvd rom
MSI KX333 motherboard with 2 AGP slots
And not to mention a cool case with 5 neon lighted fans, a window and a neon light that respons to sound


This is definatly the best webstie to buy a computer if your not going to build it yourself.

btw-- for this system you might have to pay 100 more because I ordered it without windows and saved quite a bit of money

[Spindulik]

I would not buy that.
It ain't bad for a "first PC", but the CELERON blows cheese. And there is no way to really upgrade. No AGP slot for a GeForce Card.

[ilw]

Originally posted by endezeichen@15 July 2003 - 04:00
MSI KX333 motherboard with 2 AGP slots

R u sure about this, I've never seen a board with 2 agp slots, are u sure its not AGP 2x which is just one of the older AGP versions. There would be no point in having 2 agp slots as none of the rest of the system could handle 2 AGP graphics cards.

[Pitbul]

u can get something cheap like that then just buy a new Motherboard for around 80 dollars there some cheap ones with a AGP 4 or 8X slop 2 or 3 PCI slots and can handle up to 2 Gigs Ram

[lynx]

Originally posted by Pitbul@15 July 2003 - 08:37
u can get something cheap like that then just buy a new Motherboard for around 80 dollars there some cheap ones with a AGP 4 or 8X slop 2 or 3 PCI slots and can handle up to 2 Gigs Ram
But it is almost certainly a non-standard backplane connector layout, so swapping m/boards becomes a pain.

[lynx]

Edit: double post, damn buggy board

[ilw]

Also if u did that u would have to buy a graphics card for another 100 dollars. so it would probably end up cheaper spending the money up front

[gumbydancin]

Originally posted by ripley02@14 July 2003 - 08:31
http://www.walmart.com/catalog/product.gsp...3A41937%3A56811 (http://www.walmart.com/catalog/product.gsp?product_id=2194183&cat=56811&type=19&dept=3944&path=0%3A3944%3A3951%3A41937%3A56811)

Is This A Good Buy?
hahahahaha ....... NOOOO!

[endezeichen]

I just looked and its only 1 AGP i thought it was 2. and btw its 8x

[EnJoi]

on a website it said celeron is okay not so bad

[bigdawgfoxx]

I got one thing to say...HP SUCKS ASS! Im sorry but 3 of my friends have hp and they have all been in the shop at least twice in ONE year! ive had my dell for 3 years and it has NEVER been in the shop..and they have twice the ram and proc speed and mine can outclock theres neday...i would try to get around 800 dollars..you can get a decent dell deminsion NEW 2400 for that...Dell Computers (http://wwwb.dell.com/us/en/dhs/products/series_dimen_desktops.htm) Thats the full list of computers they offer...Heres one that i customized (http://configure.us.dell.com/dellstore/config.aspx?c=us&cs=19&kc=6V417&l=en&oc=D24PIS&s=dhs) It has a PENTIUM 4! buy a 256MB upgrade..which will give you in the high 300 MB of ram...for about 30 bux TRUST ME! YOU WILL BE HAPPY WITH DELL

[adamp2p]

Originally posted by bigdawgfoxx@16 July 2003 - 05:04
I got one thing to say...HP SUCKS ASS! Im sorry but 3 of my friends have hp and they have all been in the shop at least twice in ONE year! ive had my dell for 3 years and it has NEVER been in the shop..and they have twice the ram and proc speed and mine can outclock theres neday...i would try to get around 800 dollars..you can get a decent dell deminsion NEW 2400 for that...Dell Computers (http://wwwb.dell.com/us/en/dhs/products/series_dimen_desktops.htm) Thats the full list of computers they offer...Heres one that i customized (http://configure.us.dell.com/dellstore/config.aspx?c=us&cs=19&kc=6V417&l=en&oc=D24PIS&s=dhs) It has a PENTIUM 4! buy a 256MB upgrade..which will give you in the high 300 MB of ram...for about 30 bux TRUST ME! YOU WILL BE HAPPY WITH DELL
The system you configured is okay; I would definately not get that system and get a refurbished Dell Dimension 8300. You definately want dual channel DDR 400 and an 800 Mhz front side bus, an Intel i875P Canterwood chipset that supports the hyperthreading that you chip is capable of, etc.
Then you can get optimal performace for the same price. The system you configured was, what? 675? Single channel RAM? P4 @ 2.2? Not that great, in my humble opinion...

Here is a good alternative:

SYSTEM SPECIFICATION
Dimension 8300 (System Identifier EJBBRP9Z)
Dell Dimension 8300 Mini-Tower: Pentium® 4 Processor at 2.6GHz with 800MHz front side bus
System Price $844.00
Promotion Discount ($125.00)
Discounted Price $719.00
Memory: 256 MB DDR 400MHz SDRAM (2 DIMMs)
Floppy Drive: No Floppy Drive
Hard Disk Drive: 60 GB EIDE Hard Drive (7200 RPM)
Video: 64MB GeForce4 MX 420 with TV-Out
Modem: 56Kbps Data/Fax Modem
Operating System: Microsoft® Windows XP Home
CD Read-Write Drive: 48X CD-RW Drive
DVD Drive: 16X DVD-ROM
Logitech PS2 Mouse
QuietKey Keyboard

This system comes with software also, but I omitted that because it is trivial.

Check out Dell's refurbished site:

for desktops (http://www.dell.com/us/en/dfh/products/line_desktops.htm)

and

for laptops (http://www.dell.com/us/en/dfh/products/line_notebooks.htm)