SSL on newsgroups

[Smeghead^]

hey pplz ,
been reading around and just wanted to get your views on this
firstly newsgroups is meant to be anonymous since connection is only to a server and not to other ppl ( like emule) - so why would 1 want ssl ? what does it give me ?
is the ssl connection like enabling "protocol obfuscation" in the emule network - hides the protocol being used ? so its not known to the isp ?

any clarifications on the ssl feature ?

cheers

[start]

Secure Socket Layer (SSL) basically encrypts all the data between you and the Usenet hosting company. Your ISP can see what you download on a normal connection. SSL is good if your unsure about your ISP monitoring your connection, etc.

[DooMeD68]

ISP can only monitor the amount of bytes you are uploading and downloading - not the files ! even encryption - the same rules apply !

[Smeghead^]

ISP can only monitor the amount of bytes you are uploading and downloading - not the files ! even encryption - the same rules apply !

so whats the point of ssl ?

[Racket]

^^As previously mentioned, SSL prevents your ISP from seeing what you download if you are concerned. Most usenet providers also do not monitor what you download; they just monitor the amount of traffic. This provides you additional piece of mind. Without SSL, your ISP could monitor what files you are downloading if they so wished, etc.

[Smeghead^]

so i untill i don't hear any security problems concerning my isp checking newsgroup traffic / reporting users theres no need for this feature........

cheers for the clarification :D

[ADELA]

so i untill i don't hear any security problems concerning my isp checking newsgroup traffic / reporting users theres no need for this feature........

cheers for the clarification :D

i got a warning from my isp for using to much bw and my acct was flagged. since then ive deleted 90% of my bt accts and clicked the box for ssl on newsleecher. its better safe than sorry!

[Smeghead^]

i got a warning from my isp for using to much bw and my acct was flagged. since then ive deleted 90% of my bt accts and clicked the box for ssl on newsleecher. its better safe than sorry!

how much were you downloading when you got the warning ?

[ADELA]

i got a warning from my isp for using to much bw and my acct was flagged. since then ive deleted 90% of my bt accts and clicked the box for ssl on newsleecher. its better safe than sorry!

how much were you downloading when you got the warning ?


comcast 600 gb's +or-

[Smeghead^]

heh - thats defanitly alot :D unless you are limited in your contract with your isp you should of told them to buzz off - you pay for a specific speed connection and you have the right to use max bandwidth all the time - you payed for it didn't you ? :D

[start]

heh - thats defanitly alot :D unless you are limited in your contract with your isp you should of told them to buzz off - you pay for a specific speed connection and you have the right to use max bandwidth all the time - you payed for it didn't you ? :D

It's hard to say F-you when Comcast, AT&T, etc. are the only providers in your area. Take it from me :)

[ADELA]

heh - thats defanitly alot :D unless you are limited in your contract with your isp you should of told them to buzz off - you pay for a specific speed connection and you have the right to use max bandwidth all the time - you payed for it didn't you ? :D

It's hard to say F-you when Comcast, AT&T, etc. are the only providers in your area. Take it from me :)

not only that but im a lil paranoid. i dont want the internetz police after me.

[Smeghead^]

but when you think about it - Even if you use an SSL connection - the Data is Encrypted at the Usenet provider's end and decoded at yours - so hypetheticlly , if some "internet police" cracks down on the Usenet Provider they would still probably get info about what Files where encrypted and maybe logged ips directing them to you - which means you're not totally out the woods :) correct me if im wrong .......... :D
ohh the paranoia ..........:D

[ADELA]

but when you think about it - Even if you use an SSL connection - the Data is Encrypted at the Usenet provider's end and decoded at yours - so hypetheticlly , if some "internet police" cracks down on the Usenet Provider they would still probably get info about what Files where encrypted and maybe logged ips directing them to you - which means you're not totally out the woods :) correct me if im wrong .......... :D
ohh the paranoia ..........:D

great!! now u just fucked up newsgroups for me!

[MultiForce]

but when you think about it - Even if you use an SSL connection - the Data is Encrypted at the Usenet provider's end and decoded at yours - so hypetheticlly , if some "internet police" cracks down on the Usenet Provider they would still probably get info about what Files where encrypted and maybe logged ips directing them to you - which means you're not totally out the woods :) correct me if im wrong .......... :D
ohh the paranoia ..........:D

As long as you don't upload anything they won't "care".... It has always been like that whatever you have used, and I don't think it's going to change any time soon.

[Smeghead^]

don't think it's going to change any time soon.

yeah , i see your point.
i still see newsgroups the least known filesharing "problem".

id say that the ssl feature still hasn't proven its pros against normal usage ( if some1 really wanted to find you/know what you take down/up from ng's they would even with ssl) - just added abit more hassels along the way for the police and peace of mind for the user.