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sam33
07-16-2003, 11:25 AM
SOURCE (http://www.news.com.au/common/story_page/0,4057,6760977%255E421,00.html)
Noticed this news article today and got me thinking.....

Australia primed to be yanked into US
By Tess Livingstone
July 16, 2003

AUSTRALIA has been urged to seriously consider becoming the 51st state of the US.

And American-born historian Dr David Mosler told a Brisbane audience yesterday there was a 20 per cent chance of Australia becoming an American state in the next 50 years.

The visiting research fellow at Adelaide University, who has lived in Australia since 1971, said the chances would increase significantly in the event of a major Al-Qaeda attack on Australia or if Indonesia became a fundamentalist Islamic republic.

Dr Mosler told the 2003 Fulbright Symposium at Griffith University yesterday that he decided Australia was "an unreformable society" after the loss of the 1999 republic referendum.

Australians, he said, had no flag of their own; a weak sense of nationhood; no prime minister in the Lodge, with John Howard living in Sydney; no national bushfire or water plans, even with the worst drought in history; and no "broad knowledge of nation in public discourse or popular culture". Australians had replaced "Empire with Yanks" after 1942, and the country retained a "quasi-colonial status".

He said Australian governments, attuned to the British, Americans, Japanese and global capital markets, had "sold off the farm" - electricity, water, ports, airports, resources - while Australians weren't offended by such "treasonous behaviour".

He said Australia's passage to American statehood would not be difficult under its Constitution.

He listed the advantages of American statehood for Australia as:

* Access to the world's best higher education system.

* Large savings on embassies.

* Being part of the world's most effective defence system.

* Merger with the world's strongest currency.

* Being part of the world's biggest economy.

* A constitution bringing a republic and a Bill of Rights.

* Fielding teams in the US national basketball, baseball and gridiron competitions.

The Courier-Mail

MediaSlayer
07-16-2003, 11:30 AM
It was bound to happen, the uk is getting sick of us.

fat_boy_slimmer
07-16-2003, 12:19 PM
I thought the UK was going to be the 51st state as Blair seems to play second fiddle to all of Bushes half baked plans

N£MO
07-16-2003, 12:21 PM
Originally posted by MediaSlayer@16 July 2003 - 12:30
It was bound to happen, the uk is getting sick of us.
Amen to that. :D

lynx
07-16-2003, 12:21 PM
Originally posted by MediaSlayer@16 July 2003 - 12:30
It was bound to happen, the uk is getting sick of us.
Bloody Aussies, sending their crap beer (Fosters, Castlemain) over here. :P

swarnel
07-16-2003, 12:26 PM
can that happen?

LoStEmPiRe
07-16-2003, 12:29 PM
If that happened it would be so crap. Don't get me wrong, I'm anti anti-seppo, and i'm greatful for their ww2 efforts, but I think we can stand on our own 2 feet.

OTOH, we don't need to be the 51st state to be part of USA. We already copy everything they do. I'm dreading the day our legal system becomes like theirs (oh god, it's already started!)

The Knife Thrower
07-16-2003, 02:09 PM
Originally posted by LoStEmPiRe@16 July 2003 - 12:29
If that happened it would be so crap. Don't get me wrong, I'm anti anti-seppo, and i'm greatful for their ww2 efforts, but I think we can stand on our own 2 feet.

OTOH, we don't need to be the 51st state to be part of USA. We already copy everything they do. I'm dreading the day our legal system becomes like theirs (oh god, it's already started!)
Their legal system is not as bad as the one in the UK.

mutterings
07-16-2003, 02:58 PM
Originally posted by The Knife Thrower@16 July 2003 - 14:09
Their legal system is not as bad as the one in the UK.
There is so much i could say about that statement i dont know where to start!!!Where is the uk system worse than usa's???

Proper Bo
07-16-2003, 03:04 PM
I think it's because we give children the death penalty in the UK, oh wait...

mutterings
07-16-2003, 03:06 PM
:o :lol:

lynx
07-16-2003, 03:23 PM
Originally posted by Proper Bo, I tell thee@16 July 2003 - 16:04
I think it's because we give children the death penalty in the UK, oh wait...
No, just 16 yr olds. :P

ezyryder
07-16-2003, 03:34 PM
perhaps its got something to do with the lack of uk gun laws where anyone really can get a gun from a new born to pensioner... oh wait ;)

HeavyMetalParkingLot
07-16-2003, 03:37 PM
perhaps its got something to do with the lack of uk gun laws where anyone really can get a gun from a new born to pensioner... oh wait 

Oh, you just HAD to go there didn'tcha?!? :-)

hypoluxa3k
07-16-2003, 05:14 PM
this is like some kinda game to see who can be the biggest imperialist nation...UK or US. :angry:

j2k4
07-16-2003, 05:38 PM
All our problems, and 'roos and dingos and sheep to boot? :blink:

I think not. ;)

Besides, the Aussies live an idyllic existence already, don't they?

Why would they want to join us? :huh:

tite-wad
07-16-2003, 05:44 PM
There isn't any more room on the flag for more stars anyway...50 fills it up! :P

ilw
07-16-2003, 05:54 PM
I reckon its all been sparked by their kangaroos turning violent (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/asia-pacific/3064503.stm) they're hoping the US army can protect them.

j2k4
07-16-2003, 06:10 PM
Originally posted by tite-wad@16 July 2003 - 12:44
There isn't any more room on the flag for more stars anyway...50 fills it up!  :P

Then it wouldn't do any good to suggest smaller stars.......oops!

j2k4
07-16-2003, 06:14 PM
Originally posted by ilw@16 July 2003 - 12:54
I reckon its all been sparked by their kangaroos turning violent (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/asia-pacific/3064503.stm) they're hoping the US army can protect them.
Yep-

A crazed kangaroo is more than a match for any number of well-armed Aussies. :P

tite-wad
07-16-2003, 06:27 PM
Originally posted by j2k4@16 July 2003 - 13:10
Then it wouldn't do any good to suggest smaller stars.......oops!
http://members.roadfly.com/tite-wad/naughty.gif Well, I suppose we could just give Michigan to Canada...http://members.roadfly.com/tite-wad/space.GIFhttp://members.roadfly.com/tite-wad/space.GIFhttp://members.roadfly.com/tite-wad/space.GIFhttp://members.roadfly.com/tite-wad/space.GIFhttp://members.roadfly.com/tite-wad/space.GIFhttp://members.roadfly.com/tite-wad/space.GIFhttp://members.roadfly.com/tite-wad/space.GIF...then there'd be enough space! http://members.roadfly.com/tite-wad/laugh.gif

lynx
07-16-2003, 08:35 PM
Originally posted by tite-wad+16 July 2003 - 19:27--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (tite-wad @ 16 July 2003 - 19:27)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-j2k4@16 July 2003 - 13:10
Then it wouldn&#39;t do any good to suggest smaller stars.......oops&#33;
http://members.roadfly.com/tite-wad/naughty.gif Well, I suppose we could just give Michigan to Canada...http://members.roadfly.com/tite-wad/space.GIFhttp://members.roadfly.com/tite-wad/space.GIFhttp://members.roadfly.com/tite-wad/space.GIFhttp://members.roadfly.com/tite-wad/space.GIFhttp://members.roadfly.com/tite-wad/space.GIFhttp://members.roadfly.com/tite-wad/space.GIFhttp://members.roadfly.com/tite-wad/space.GIF...then there&#39;d be enough space&#33; http://members.roadfly.com/tite-wad/laugh.gif [/b][/quote]
And what, pray tell, has canada done to upset YOU. ;)

tite-wad
07-16-2003, 08:38 PM
Originally posted by lynx@16 July 2003 - 15:35
And what, pray tell, has canada done to upset YOU. ;)
Nothin... I just figured they could use another lake or two. :P

lynx
07-16-2003, 09:14 PM
Anyway, hasn&#39;t Australia already got several stars of it&#39;s own ?
And it&#39;s own states, they aren&#39;t likely to be happy all lumped together.

They are likely to want more than just one.

lynx
07-16-2003, 09:30 PM
Originally posted by tite-wad+16 July 2003 - 21:38--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (tite-wad @ 16 July 2003 - 21:38)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-lynx@16 July 2003 - 15:35
And what, pray tell, has canada done to upset YOU.&nbsp; ;)
Nothin... I just figured they could use another lake or two. :P [/b][/quote]
If you wanted to get rid of some lakes, you could give Michigan to Finland, they&#39;ve got so many already they wouldn&#39;t notice another couple.

LoStEmPiRe
07-17-2003, 01:02 AM
Originally posted by The Knife Thrower+16 July 2003 - 14:09--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (The Knife Thrower &#064; 16 July 2003 - 14:09)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteBegin-LoStEmPiRe@16 July 2003 - 12:29
If that happened it would be so crap.&nbsp; Don&#39;t get me wrong, I&#39;m anti anti-seppo, and i&#39;m greatful for their ww2 efforts, but I think we can stand on our own 2 feet.

OTOH, we don&#39;t need to be the 51st state to be part of USA.&nbsp; We already copy everything they do.&nbsp; I&#39;m dreading the day our legal system becomes like theirs (oh god, it&#39;s already started&#33;)
Their legal system is not as bad as the one in the UK.[/b][/quote]
Wanna bet. Americans cannot seem to take responsibility for their actions and Aussies are becoming like that too.

A woman in the US spilled McDonalds hot coffee on herself - She sued McDonalds because the coffee is too hot. WTF? What a retard. To make coffee, you boil water. The boiling point of water is 100 degrees. What did she expect&#33;

Caesar Barber tries to sue McDonals/KFC/Wendys/anyone else he can think of because he is too fat, and he didn&#39;t know junk food was unhealthy for you. Caesar were you dropped on your head at birth?
I&#39;m sure there are many more examples

This is now starting to happen here
A 28 yr old male sued his local council when he dived head first into a sandbank and became paralysed. He claimed the council was at fault because he was swimming in between the flags there shouldnt&#39; have been any danger. Its the ocean, it&#39;s unpredictable. How about looking first before you dive into the water dipshit. He won &#036;4 000 000 - yes &#036;4 million for his own stupidity. Perhaps he shouldn&#39;t have had that eccy the night before, or the longneck an hour before he went in.

A 27 year old man was awarded &#036;5.7 million after becoming paralysed from a wrestling move.

And you say UK is worse?

mutterings
07-17-2003, 01:06 AM
Just to be in keeeping with current trends....I am suing heinz cos they didnt warn me that if i jerked off with ketchup it would burn.....i am looking at a 57pence payout&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;

tite-wad
07-17-2003, 01:07 AM
Originally posted by LoStEmPiRe@16 July 2003 - 20:02
Americans cannot seem to take responsibility for their actions
Could you be a little less encompassing with you&#39;re generalizations please? <_<


I take plenty of responsibility for my own actions. :huh:

Pitbul
07-17-2003, 01:08 AM
i didn&#39;t read any of ur opinion but i think it would be cool to have AUS jion us even tho that would mean we&#39;d be one of the sources of the Crocidile hunter but i think some sort of mishap on the solo flying plane with only him on board on his way to America coiuld solve that

LoStEmPiRe
07-17-2003, 01:08 AM
Originally posted by j2k4+16 July 2003 - 17:38--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (j2k4 &#064; 16 July 2003 - 17:38)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>All our problems, and &#39;roos and dingos and sheep to boot? :blink: [/b]

What sort of problems do you think they cause?

<!--QuoteBegin-j2k4
Why would they want to join us? :huh:[/quote]

Exactly. Nice place to holiday, nice people I&#39;m sure, but we don&#39;t want to be part of you permanently

mutterings
07-17-2003, 01:10 AM
Originally posted by Pitbul@17 July 2003 - 01:08
i didn&#39;t read any of ur opinion but i think it would be cool to have AUS jion us even tho that would mean we&#39;d be one of the sources of the Crocidile hunter but i think some sort of mishap on the solo flying plane with only him on board on his way to America coiuld solve that
This is where the problem lies usa wants everyone to join em&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;It didnt occur to usa that we dont want them<<<<<that is not directed at individuals so diont bitch&#33;&#33;&#33;

tite-wad
07-17-2003, 01:15 AM
Personally, I&#39;d prefer to keep the US in USA. :P

mutterings
07-17-2003, 01:19 AM
A too right ;)