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[B][O][T]
07-16-2003, 11:44 PM
...get more bizarre.


According to MTV.com, Metallica are suing independant Canadian rockers Unfaith over what they call "unsanctioned usage of two chords [Metallica] have been using since 1982 : E and F."

"People are going to get on our case again for this, but try to see it from our point of view just once," stated drummer Lars Ulrich. He adds that they're not saying they own the two chords, individually - "that would be ridiculous" - just that in that specific order, people have grown to associate E, F with their music, and their continued usage in the same song causes "confusion, deception and mistake in the minds of the public."

You can read the whole surreal article here (http://www1.scoopthis.com/411/met_uf/stc_met_uf_mtv.htm)

Metallica.com has issued an official statement on the subject here (http://www1.scoopthis.com/411/met_uf/stc_met_uf.htm)

Credit: MTV.com, Metallica.com

http://www.411mania.com/music/news/article...hp?news_id=3586 (http://www.411mania.com/music/news/article.php?news_id=3586)

BOT

3rd gen noob
07-16-2003, 11:49 PM
there was a composer sued for using silence in his music a while back

Afronaut
07-17-2003, 12:08 AM
OMFG !

:lol: :lol: :lol:

This is probably possible only in US (the land of the laywers),
i mean, c'mon, a 'lil bit of common sence, anyone?

Whats next? Sue ppl using Distortion on their Guitar sound as it is associated so well
in Metallicas music?
...or swearing?
...or using double bass drums?

If they can pull this out, nobodys safe from the wrath of Metallica. :ph34r:

:lol: :lol: :lol:

Guillaume
07-17-2003, 12:40 AM
:unsure: Hey, I breathe air, just like they do... Do you think they're gonna sue me? :blink:


Thanks to Metallica, another opportunity to say it again: don't do drugs that may f**k your brains up ! :P

tianup
07-17-2003, 12:56 AM
WTF!

This is the stupidest most pathetic fucking thing I think I've ever heard.

I really don't know how anyone can even listen to these guys anymore, just based on their sheer stupidity and greed.

If these were my kids I would slap, then kick, then disown them. :blink: Then slap them again. And again. Idiots.




btw - for those with the intellect of the members of Metallica, I do not actually believe in corporal punishment on children or anyone else. Just these morons.

Arm
07-17-2003, 01:12 AM
This goes well with the "Sure The World" flash movie someone posted here a little while ago.

uNz[i]
07-17-2003, 01:16 AM
bah.. what a steaming pile. :angry:

Looks like Lars just wants to buy another limo... the guy's such a :swear: poseur.

Cliff would be spinning in his grave so fast by now that he could be used as an alternative power source.

3rd gen noob
07-17-2003, 01:18 AM
Originally posted by 3rd gen noob@17 July 2003 - 00:49
there was a composer sued for using silence in his music a while back
http://www.cnn.com/2002/SHOWBIZ/Music/09/2.../23/uk.silence/ (http://www.cnn.com/2002/SHOWBIZ/Music/09/23/uk.silence/)

Celerystalksme
07-17-2003, 02:56 AM
Hmmm metallica will sue Australia soon because we are copying America *sad state of affairs we are living in thanks to Mr. Howard...*

BigBank_Hank
07-17-2003, 03:09 AM
Originally posted by Guitar-Slinger@17 July 2003 - 00:08
This is probably possible only in US (the land of the laywers),


The more it goes the weirder they (Lars) get. Every time they (Lars) speak out against something its always him as the lone representative for Metallica. Tight ass.

GS you are right people in the US cry for the silliest things. My favorite has to be Spike Lee. Recently he filed a lawsuit against TNN for using the name Spike TV. Spike Lee said that it might confuse people and wanted the name to be changed. I'll be damn he took them to court and he won. Now come on be serious.

sparsely
07-17-2003, 03:57 AM
The only thing I can really say about this is that I'm really thankful that I've never liked Metallica
at all, and I've never bought any of their music. Fuck Metallica, fuck Lars. He should be hung up by his cock,
then sued for crying like a girl, just like Michael Jackson. Who owned the chords before Metallica?
Nobody. They don't own them now. But they can purchase them from all the ear-equipped humans
for $100Bil.

Honestly, it's a damn shame. Why should Metallica be compensated for being complete, shit-for-brains,
noncreative wastes?
First, your band sucks and lacks any diversity, so you use the
same two fucking chords, over and over, back to back. So much so that every song you make sounds
the fucking same. You drone on for ten years and think you own the concept for being boring, repetitive
and fucking lazy.
Then again, perhaps this Unfaith band deserves to be put out of business.
After all, if you're copying a band who, admittedly, hasn't released anything really original
since the mid eighties, then you're really stupid enough to warrant being shot for social preservation.

sandman24
07-17-2003, 05:55 AM
The only thing I can really say about this is that I'm really thankful that I've never liked Metallica
at all, and I've never bought any of their music. Fuck Metallica, fuck Lars. He should be hung up by his cock,
then sued for crying like a girl, just like Michael Jackson. Who owned the chords before Metallica?
Nobody. They don't own them now. But they can purchase them from all the ear-equipped humans
for $100Bil.

Honestly, it's a damn shame. Why should Metallica be compensated for being complete, shit-for-brains,
noncreative wastes?
First, your band sucks and lacks any diversity, so you use the
same two fucking chords, over and over, back to back. So much so that every song you make sounds
the fucking same. You drone on for ten years and think you own the concept for being boring, repetitive
and fucking lazy.
Then again, perhaps this Unfaith band deserves to be put out of business.
After all, if you're copying a band who, admittedly, hasn't released anything really original
since the mid eighties, then you're really stupid enough to warrant being shot for social preservation.


I doubt that metallica is an unoriginal band.... They have been around for 20 years. Lacks diversity? COME ON!

First you wanna be jack off fans whine and complain that Metallica has sold out.... it's so unfair that all their albums don't sound like seek and destroy or and justice for all!Then we get these ya whos who think they have a clue about music saying that it all sounds the same. Well, go listen to elvis or whatever shit you are listening to.

Besides, the Unfaith band was putting out a whole bunch of songs saying they were metallica or something weren't they??? I think that is really what the case is about.


BTW.... if you really want a two chord band, look at nirvana.... Bet you were hard into them and this is what got you started on this whole "Musical Philosphy" or theory or whatever the hell you claim it to be!


Anyways.... back on track here......
Lars is fucked! I seriously cannot believe this band is one of my faves.... Maybe he should check into the substance abuse treatment centre like James. The E and F chord!

So my question that I posted to the Metallica web site was, do you deserve to be sued for ripping those chords off of led zepplin, danzig and such??? You do use a lot of blues riffs in your songs, so if you want to get compensation, you really should consider paying out to the blues legends as well.
And lars.... don't even get me started on how many different rythms you have copied over the years.

sparsely
07-17-2003, 06:16 AM
Nope, never liked Nirvana either.
See my comments in the "Ding, Dong, Kurt Cobain is Dead" thread. Or whatever it was called.
You purchased Metallica CD's? You're part of the reason these morons are in a position to be
such massive fuckwads. Thanks a heap. Dumbass. <_<

DJ-KeTTLe
07-17-2003, 07:18 AM
metallica only care about money not about there fans anymore thats why im boycotting them

MagicNakor
07-17-2003, 08:27 AM
Well, I was going to post this, since I figured some of you&#39;d get a chuckle out of it, but BOT beat me to it. ;)

:ninja:

Adster
07-17-2003, 08:31 AM
This is just ridiculous Mettalic might as well sue everyone C and F chords what??? so what?? 90% of music these days is done by a power chord I always thought that Metallica only knew how to play a 5th chord anyway like g5 there forgetting that Kith Moon from the Who was the musican that created and envented power chords as there so called

I'm_going_slightly_mad
07-17-2003, 09:52 AM
Originally posted by Gurahl@16 July 2003 - 19:40
:unsure: Hey, I breathe air, just like they do... Do you think they&#39;re gonna sue me? :blink:


Thanks to Metallica, another opportunity to say it again: don&#39;t do drugs that may f**k your brains up &#33; :P
I was just thinking, the next thing that is going to happen is we are going to be charged a fee to breathe air, and if we are caught snagging a free breath, we are getting our asses sued&#33; :rolleyes:

Argh, Mateys&#33; :pirate:

sum_sicko
07-17-2003, 10:31 AM
that is just really fucking stupid :blink:

Celerystalksme
07-17-2003, 10:37 AM
Originally posted by sum_sicko@17 July 2003 - 20:31
that is just really fucking stupid :blink:
couldn&#39;t of said it better myself... ;)

ezyryder
07-17-2003, 12:38 PM
I don&#39;t believe this to be real. There is nothing on the MTV site (the real site) or Metallica site (real site) to show this IS real. The address does not link to any MTV or Metallica site and when trying to change its address a bit you get "Forbidden page" which suggests someone has put a lot of work into making this a fake. Also as far as I am aware you can not sue over two chord useage, there has to be four stolen bars to warrant a court-case&#33;

so basically, if it was real the you show me a real link that leads to a real metallica or mtv site, then I will believe this.

HeavyMetalParkingLot
07-17-2003, 12:45 PM
leave him alone, these lonely bampots need to do things like this to make friends...

sk8punk151
07-17-2003, 03:33 PM
Originally posted by ezyryder@17 July 2003 - 13:38
I don&#39;t believe this to be real. There is nothing on the MTV site (the real site) or Metallica site (real site) to show this IS real. The address does not link to any MTV or Metallica site and when trying to change its address a bit you get "Forbidden page" which suggests someone has put a lot of work into making this a fake. Also as far as I am aware you can not sue over two chord useage, there has to be four stolen bars to warrant a court-case&#33;

so basically, if it was real the you show me a real link that leads to a real metallica or mtv site, then I will believe this.
He is actually correct. Those two sites bot gave us were not official and in my eyes they were as good as fakes.

sandman24
07-17-2003, 04:31 PM
You purchased Metallica CD&#39;s? You&#39;re part of the reason these morons are in a position to be
such massive fuckwads. Thanks a heap. Dumbass.&nbsp;



Purchased????
:lol:

Who the hell are you kidding? I haven&#39;t purchased a cd in oh..... five years or so.

BTW..... Massive bands don&#39;t make a whole lot from the purchase of cds...... They stand to make a lot more from people who go to their concerts, purchase videos, having videos on MTV, T shirts etc....
So before you open your mouth to call me a dumbass, please, try to think about what you are saying.

Also, I got an email response from the website that basically boils down to....


Metallica is not in legal action with the aforementioned band

So, I guess that this whole deal is just an elaborate fake.

sparsely
07-17-2003, 05:10 PM
D&#39;oh&#33;
Gullible again. ;)

Gah&#33; :">

mojo2185
07-17-2003, 09:03 PM
I actually believed this. It wouldn&#39;t surprise me if it really did happen the way Metallica&#39;s been acting.

http://www1.scoopthis.com/411/met_uf/stc_met_uf.htm
Thats the URL of the "offical Metallica statement." Notice the URL has nothing to do with metallica.com, also the copyright at the bottom of the page is copyrighted by scoopthis.com, not metallica.
This was pretty funny though. A great joke.

metalrebelzz
07-17-2003, 11:16 PM
lmfao i just wrote a whole 3 paragraph statement and then went down and read the most recent posts.....omg....i AM gullible......

metallica can fuck themselves in the ass, they&#39;re a disgrace to metal fans everywhere....

and also, has anybody heard their new radio song?? it sounded like a punk song with sustain guitars.....makes me ashamed to have EVER listened to metallica.....

DrSpud
07-23-2003, 01:25 PM
Heh. Just found this: http://www.unfaith.net/pages/hoax/
It explains the whole thing very well.

"Because if it&#39;s on the net, it&#39;s got to be true" ™ :lol:

aizlumzan
07-23-2003, 05:35 PM
METALLICA died for me after they released the LOAD album.