Sct disabled. Help?

[orka]

This massage is for staff or people they like to help to read only.
-sorry,if I am posting in wrong section


I would like here to tell my story here.

Hi, stuff and all good people out here. I am orka. For short time of period I enjoyed stay at s*t. Truly, I could be happier a care about it, even thru I take it as my own baby. Now sad days are here for me, because my baby run away from me, I did do nothing bad, I feed it with seed and I secure it from evil outside world.
So please stuff and people from s*t, if you could here my voice today, take your precious time and take a look of these screen and other proofs, that my baby belongs to me and I am not some crazy person. Help me find my baby, or help me to get another one. As a person who could you thrust and as a mother of my baby I would like to thank you for reading this massage.

Thruly orka


Some more inforrmation:
-my baby got disabled for really bad behaviour of the inviter


Enclosure of this massage:
If you pm me you will see the proofs.

[Actatoi]

When ScT disables you like that, it is the same as a ip and all that kind of a ban? Or just a inactivity like of disable? Otherwise if you describe it as a "baby" to you I am sure someone would happily invite you if you pay up 20£.

[orka]

my ip is not banned. I am a person from invite tree that got disabled bc bad person who invited me.

[Polarbear]

i didn't know that sct disables invite trees?!

[boobly]

I didn't think they did either, the person who invited me got banned and I still have my account. If thats not the real reason then you need to go to their irc and find out!

[orka]

If you know how painfull is it for me. Plz dont ask more and more questions. This I got from s*t staff regarding my account. But I cant go to irc and I cant speak with staff.

Sorry but you got disabled because your inviter (http://www.********.org/userdetails.php?id=****) hacked Paypal
He hacked Paypal so did not deserve the invites he got from donating (because he never sent any money), so it is his fault I'm afraid.

Is here somebody who could help me???

[Skiz]

Thread title changed. Titles such as "like to help,then you could read this" are useless.

[sexydingo]

Thread title changed. Titles such as "like to help,then you could read this" are useless.

rofl

[digitalmayhem]

If the guy didn't pay for the invite, it is kind of like it never existed.

Try IRC, they may be helpful if you've been a good member.

It would be messed up if money mattered that much.

[kooftspc11]

its MESSAGE not MASSAGE

a "massage" is what u get from an asian girl in garden grove

[Chewy]

yeah, I got invited last night and was disabled today, inviter requested it, but his account was stolen so im SOL :(

[Adam1990]

yeah, I got invited last night and was disabled today, inviter requested it, but his account was stolen so im SOL :(

Wow that sucks. So I assume the account stealer invited you?

[AmpeD]

If you know how painfull is it for me. Plz dont ask more and more questions. This I got from s*t staff regarding my account. But I cant go to irc and I cant speak with staff.

Sorry but you got disabled because your inviter (http://www.********.org/userdetails.php?id=****) hacked Paypal
He hacked Paypal so did not deserve the invites he got from donating (because he never sent any money), so it is his fault I'm afraid.

Is here somebody who could help me???
take it like a man, its a website

[Chewy]

yeah, I got invited last night and was disabled today, inviter requested it, but his account was stolen so im SOL :(

Wow that sucks. So I assume the account stealer invited you?

no, the real user invited me :\, IRC said today the pass was changed :|

[kavselj]

i didn't know that sct disables invite trees?!

The account of the hacker and his invitee aren't really an invite tree, more like branch consisting of two users :pinch:

[Swax]

This I got from s*t staff regarding my account...

Sorry but you got disabled because your inviter (http://www.********.org/userdetails.php?id=****) hacked Paypal
He hacked Paypal so did not deserve the invites he got from donating (because he never sent any money), so it is his fault I'm afraid.

What else do you need to know?


If the guy didn't pay for the invite, it is kind of like it never existed.

It would be messed up if money mattered that much.

Like you said the invites were achieved through attempting a hacked Paypal donation, as he took back the "money" he sent us, we took back the invites we sent him. Simple really.

In real life if you bought Christmas presents for friends using a fake credit card the Police wouldn't say "Oh, we don't want to upset the other people, we'll leave the presents achieved illegally". So why should tracker staff act any differently?

[Detale]

Yes this is true but SCT IMO should be a little more understanding. Sure the inviter was a piece of 5hit, but that doesn't mean this poor dude was. It is their tracker and so their rules, but I feel they should make good on the poor guys acct.

If the cops caught a thief they do not come to other peoples houses and take back the presents once they were given. PM me the Nick of the inviter and your site nick too.

[kavselj]

Like you don't take candy from a stranger on the street, you also don't take an invite from someone completely random, no matter how tempting it sounds.

In case you do, you get raped by the stranger on the street or you have stomach-ache because the candy was bad and in this case, your account gets disabled.

It's inviters responsibility to take care of his invitee's. Hell if he can't take care of his own account, how can he take care of invitee's then? :shrug:

[Brandon]

Yes this is true but SCT IMO should be a little more understanding. Sure the inviter was a piece of 5hit, but that doesn't mean this poor dude was. It is their tracker and so their rules, but I feel they should make good on the poor guys acct.

If the cops caught a thief they do not come to other peoples houses and take back the presents once they were given. PM me the Nick of the inviter and your site nick too.

Let me explain it to you from SCT's eyes. The more people they disable, the more people that can buy invites. They will have no sympathy for you unless you wave around some green bills in front of them. Don't take this post as being the same theory as the dickhead who got me disabled, but judging from the fact that:
A: They went p2l when they really didn't have to
B: They get way way way way more than enough "purchases" to handle their funds every month yet don't lower the prices (like most normal businesses would, unless they're running a max-profit business model)
C: They have a "rainy day fund" that should be overflowing by now which could probably fund the site for a few months..

I could go on and on. As much as I hate the person who hacked my acct and screwed me around, he did have some pretty good points. I'm sure most of you see it also, but are keeping your mouths shut due to the fact that you also know you're expendable in their eyes. (in fact I know that's true judging by the amount of PM's I got last time about it when I was compromised)


PS: I actually had proof about what my hacker was saying, which is probably why he said it. Guess he failed to copy that over when he was stealing my files and such. No I won't share it, never intended to in the first place. I'm not anti-sct, but I will state my facts and reasoning on a topic if I feel it's beneficial to others, regardless of the context it comes out in.

[piratex]

I agree with the facts .. but u should have been careful on sct and other sites .. they will just disable accounts if they feel the account is doing something wrong .. so better get the invites from freinds or family persons and dont try to missuse it

[Detale]

Yes this is true but SCT IMO should be a little more understanding. Sure the inviter was a piece of 5hit, but that doesn't mean this poor dude was. It is their tracker and so their rules, but I feel they should make good on the poor guys acct.

If the cops caught a thief they do not come to other peoples houses and take back the presents once they were given. PM me the Nick of the inviter and your site nick too.

Let me explain it to you from SCT's eyes. The more people they disable, the more people that can buy invites. They will have no sympathy for you unless you wave around some green bills in front of them. Don't take this post as being the same theory as the dickhead who got me disabled, but judging from the fact that:
A: They went p2l when they really didn't have to
B: They get way way way way more than enough "purchases" to handle their funds every month yet don't lower the prices (like most normal businesses would, unless they're running a max-profit business model)
C: They have a "rainy day fund" that should be overflowing by now which could probably fund the site for a few months..

I could go on and on. As much as I hate the person who hacked my acct and screwed me around, he did have some pretty good points. I'm sure most of you see it also, but are keeping your mouths shut due to the fact that you also know you're expendable in their eyes. (in fact I know that's true judging by the amount of PM's I got last time about it when I was compromised)


PS: I actually had proof about what my hacker was saying, which is probably why he said it. Guess he failed to copy that over when he was stealing my files and such. No I won't share it, never intended to in the first place. I'm not anti-sct, but I will state my facts and reasoning on a topic if I feel it's beneficial to others, regardless of the context it comes out in.

Ladies and gents may I please introduce Brandon, the man who will say what few others ever will. Thanks for the insight bro ;)

[JA]

So very true especially C.

[Polarbear]

I agree with the facts .. but u should have been careful on sct and other sites .. they will just disable accounts if they feel the account is doing something wrong .. so better get the invites from freinds or family persons and dont try to missuse it

exactly - now go and get invites from your friends and family and stop asking for them in the invite forum :frusty:

i hate this hypocrisy. you are the first one who will be begging in the next sct giveaway thread.

[Ghost+Rider]

Let me explain it to you from SCT's eyes. The more people they disable, the more people that can buy invites. They will have no sympathy for you unless you wave around some green bills in front of them:noes: Not true if this is so they cud have started banning ppl like bitmetv does,Comparing to it's high level it is very much lenient..







. Don't take this post as being the same theory as the dickhead who got me disabled, but judging from the fact that:
A: They went p2l when they really didn't have to
B: They get way way way way more than enough "purchases" to handle their funds every month yet don't lower the prices (like most normal businesses would, unless they're running a max-profit business model)
C: They have a "rainy day fund" that should be overflowing by now which could probably fund the site for a few months..

:yup:




I could go on and on. As much as I hate the person who hacked my acct and screwed me around, he did have some pretty good points. I'm sure most of you see it also, but are keeping your mouths shut due to the fact that you also know you're expendable in their eyes. (in fact I know that's true judging by the amount of PM's I got last time about it when I was compromised)


PS: I actually had proof about what my hacker was saying, which is probably why he said it. Guess he failed to copy that over when he was stealing my files and such. No I won't share it, never intended to in the first place. I'm not anti-sct, but I will state my facts and reasoning on a topic if I feel it's beneficial to others, regardless of the context it comes out in.Off topic :whistling

[Brandon]

:noes: Not true if this is so they cud have started banning ppl like bitmetv does,Comparing to it's high level it is very much lenient..

Believe what you want ;)

[blackbird]

Sorry but you got disabled because your inviter (http://www.********.org/userdetails.php?id=****) hacked Paypal
He hacked Paypal so did not deserve the invites he got from donating (because he never sent any money), so it is his fault I'm afraid.





the inviter got the invites the "wrong" way .. the staff found it and disabled it ..

why make this so complicated ? :unsure:

[aysomc]

its MESSAGE not MASSAGE

a "massage" is what u get from an asian girl in garden grove

this made me lol and then everyone else had to come in and ruin it with a serious conversation.....pft.

[p1r4t3]

Its a torrent tracker. Move on. Use ur torrentleech account.

[orka]

Thread title changed. Titles such as "like to help,then you could read this" are useless.

Thank you for helping me out little bit.




Like you said the invites were achieved through attempting a hacked Paypal donation, as he took back the "money" he sent us, we took back the invites we sent him. Simple really.

In real life if you bought Christmas presents for friends using a fake credit card the Police wouldn't say "Oh, we don't want to upset the other people, we'll leave the presents achieved illegally". So why should tracker staff act any differently?
what? I would like to have my accout back and I will maka a donation after I will be back in. BTW I never got the money back:(, almost broke now:(




I could go on and on. As much as I hate the person who hacked my acct and screwed me around, he did have some pretty good points. I'm sure most of you see it also, but are keeping your mouths shut due to the fact that you also know you're expendable in their eyes. (in fact I know that's true judging by the amount of PM's I got last time about it when I was compromised)


You sey it. I just gonna let I go. But I cant!!!, if someone like me care about it so much, and for it was the best feeling to be there, I will never let it go and forget. I learn my lesson here. Still my baby is missing and that all it metters right now.

[Brandon]

You sey it. I just gonna let I go. But I cant!!!, if someone like me care about it so much, and for it was the best feeling to be there, I will never let it go and forget. I learn my lesson here. Still my baby is missing and that all it metters right now.

I can promise you, it's not the end of the world. There are plenty of trackers out there that are just as good. Don't fret over the ones not worth fretting over ;)

PS: If you want on a site where the staff actually care about you and not your wallet, PM me your email.

[SgtMajor]

You sey it. I just gonna let I go. But I cant!!!, if someone like me care about it so much, and for it was the best feeling to be there, I will never let it go and forget. I learn my lesson here. Still my baby is missing and that all it metters right now.

I can promise you, it's not the end of the world. There are plenty of trackers out there that are just as good. Don't fret over the ones not worth fretting over ;)

PS: If you want on a site where the staff actually care about you and not your wallet, PM me your email.

Boris to the rescue!:D

http://content9.flixster.com/photo/31/12/41/3112419_gal.gif

[techie316]

You sey it. I just gonna let I go. But I cant!!!, if someone like me care about it so much, and for it was the best feeling to be there, I will never let it go and forget. I learn my lesson here. Still my baby is missing and that all it metters right now.

I can promise you, it's not the end of the world. There are plenty of trackers out there that are just as good. Don't fret over the ones not worth fretting over ;)

PS: If you want on a site where the staff actually care about you and not your wallet, PM me your email.

:w00t:

Conragats orka, you sure wont miss your SCT anymore :D

[blackbird]

orka's got a new test-tube baby now... :naughty:

congratz

[orka]

PS: If you want on a site where the staff actually care about you and not your wallet, PM me your email.

You sed it nicely. But plz don do this...I dont want more troble...you invite me and that you will ask for money, or you gonna disable the accout and I be alone on the street again. Is this what you planing to do?

[Brandon]

PS: If you want on a site where the staff actually care about you and not your wallet, PM me your email.

You sed it nicely. But plz don do this...I dont want more troble...you invite me and that you will ask for money, or you gonna disable the accout and I be alone on the street again. Is this what you planing to do?

Is that a joke?

[Swax]

Let me explain it to you from SCT's eyes. The more people they disable, the more people that can buy invites. They will have no sympathy for you unless you wave around some green bills in front of them...
....
..I'm not anti-sct

:glag:

So the less members a site has the more invites it can sell?

I always thought a "company" was more likely to sell more products if it had more "customers"... :rolleyes: (do you like my leet business terms?)

If ScT really was a "money grabbing organisation" why would they ban potential "customers" of their so-called "pay-to-leech goods" ?

ScT is slowly expanding to 20k members, and hasn't even hit 17k yet, so 'disabling people who won't donate' (the point Brandon was trying to insinuate) is somewhat of a redundant issue.
ScT only has a little over 1,200 donators out of 16,990 members, maybe they should ban 15,000+ members for being greedy and not handing over money then. They should get in a new accountant a.s.a.p quite clearly.



what? I would like to have my accout back and I will maka a donation after I will be back in...
ScT better snap this guy up, more money for the coffers, quick...oh wait, he got banned for a reason and isn't coming back because ScT doesn't do charity cases and hand out invites to disabled-users...unlike some trackers. :whistling



BTW I never got the money back:(, almost broke now:(
now.
You never paid any money to ScT. Nobody did. If you paid someone to get that invite then it's your own fault for trusting a con-artist.

[sopshr33a]

i dont he meant it as a joke

it did give me a laugh though
i bet u were not expecting
a reply like that Brandon
maybe he should get a by ball though , he is kinda new

[techie316]

PS: If you want on a site where the staff actually care about you and not your wallet, PM me your email.

You sed it nicely. But plz don do this...I dont want more troble...you invite me and that you will ask for money, or you gonna disable the accout and I be alone on the street again. Is this what you planing to do?


Brandon offered you an invite to one the best bittorrent trackers and you think he wants money from you? :huh:
If he cared about money so much, FTN would just give out invites for donations like SCT.

[blackbird]

PS: If you want on a site where the staff actually care about you and not your wallet, PM me your email.

You sed it nicely. But plz don do this...I dont want more troble...you invite me and that you will ask for money, or you gonna disable the accout and I be alone on the street again. Is this what you planing to do?

he isnt gona invite you to sct again .. he was gona invite you to FTN .. :mellow:

FTN > SCT

got it ?

[Sisqo]

yawn, yet another thread that brandon tries to take over with his sct hate

[GoLDeN]

dude dont be dump send to him the freaky mail who gives a fuck about ScT
u will be member of #1 cool place in the world the almighty FTN

[dragos]

let me grab some popcorn ... done. Some pepsi now .... no pepsi , just coke... it will do ... go ahead :eat:

[Something Else]

You sed it nicely. But plz don do this...I dont want more troble...you invite me and that you will ask for money, or you gonna disable the accout and I be alone on the street again. Is this what you planing to do?

Is that a joke?

I'm not sure I would invite him after that.

[blackbird]

let me grab some popcorn ... done. Some pepsi now .... no pepsi , just coke... it will do ... go ahead :eat:

:pizza: :guinesssm

hope skizo doesnt see this thread :D

[Brandon]

:glag:

So the less members a site has the more invites it can sell?

I always thought a "company" was more likely to sell more products if it had more "customers"... :rolleyes: (do you like my leet business terms?)

If ScT really was a "money grabbing organisation" why would they ban potential "customers" of their so-called "pay-to-leech goods" ?

ScT is slowly expanding to 20k members, and hasn't even hit 17k yet, so 'disabling people who won't donate' (the point Brandon was trying to insinuate) is somewhat of a redundant issue.
ScT only has a little over 1,200 donators out of 16,990 members, maybe they should ban 15,000+ members for being greedy and not handing over money then. They should get in a new accountant a.s.a.p quite clearly.



what? I would like to have my accout back and I will maka a donation after I will be back in...
ScT better snap this guy up, more money for the coffers, quick...oh wait, he got banned for a reason and isn't coming back because ScT doesn't do charity cases and hand out invites to disabled-users...unlike some trackers. :whistling



BTW I never got the money back:(, almost broke now:(
now.
You never paid any money to ScT. Nobody did. If you paid someone to get that invite then it's your own fault for trusting a con-artist.

I was waiting for you ;)
You obviously either
A) Are trying to mislead what I said
B) Don't understand what I said
C) Trying to cause issues b/c I said something unfavorable about your baby?

Let me try and explain it for the slow and special people. You even quoted part of my point.. lol
If you disable someone, that opens up another spot for someone else to purchase an invite. Make sense? So for example, Bob makes a simple mistake.. Will you have sympethy for bob? Or will you remove Bob from the equation and reserve a spot for 20 euro's? :yup: Hell this guy is a perfect example, offering to donate even more..
You say a company is more likely to sell products with more customers. You're correct. The invite IS a product.. If you have a full site, how are you going to sell invites? :blink: I highly doubt their intention of opening slots is in regard to helping users...
You can prove me wrong the day sct stops selling everything on site (invites, ratio, t-shirts, etc..)
It's not just sct, there are a ton of other sites out there taking advantage of people, sct is just the most publicized of them.
Any persons taking advantage of others for the benefit of themselves is wrong IMO on many moral levels. SCT isn't selling invites/ratio b/c they need to. They're doing it because they can and they know people will buy it. Simple as that. If it was on a "need" basis, it would be a totally different situation.


yawn, yet another thread that brandon tries to take over with his sct hate

I'm going to clarify something for you real quick and simple.
Do I hate SCT? NO
Do I hate assholes? YES
Do I dislike people who take advantage of others for personal gain? Most definitely..

Read that a few times so you can get it in your mind.

PS: I like djgrrr and have respect for him. Just FYI.

[SgtMajor]

let me grab some popcorn ... done. Some pepsi now .... no pepsi , just coke... it will do ... go ahead :eat:

:pizza: :guinesssm

hope skizo doesnt see this thread :D

Stop bumping it then! Oops :D

[ZedZedZed]

orka, PM Brandon your mail! He will invite you to a paradise. It`s much better than your baby :D

[dragos]

orka, PM Brandon your mail! He will invite you to a paradise. It`s much better than your baby :D

after the reply he gave Brandon i wouldn't botter helping him anymore :dry:

[GoLDeN]

Is that a joke?

I'm not sure I would invite him after that.

dont be harsh the dude dont understand what brandon means

[kavselj]

...I'm not anti-sct...

Haha, you are amazing at contradicting yourself. First you bash ScT with everything you have and then you type something like that. And not just in this thread, everywhere where ScT is mentioned. Even on FTN IRC you're showing how mature you are with retarded nicknames referring to ScT staff members.




You sey it. I just gonna let I go. But I cant!!!, if someone like me care about it so much, and for it was the best feeling to be there, I will never let it go and forget. I learn my lesson here. Still my baby is missing and that all it metters right now.

I can promise you, it's not the end of the world. There are plenty of trackers out there that are just as good. Don't fret over the ones not worth fretting over ;)

PS: If you want on a site where the staff actually care about you and not your wallet, PM me your email.

Why does your signatures then say not to PM you, because you're not FTN staff anymore? Of course, lets make good impression now and give out some invites so people won't notice you being immature.





You sed it nicely. But plz don do this...I dont want more troble...you invite me and that you will ask for money, or you gonna disable the accout and I be alone on the street again. Is this what you planing to do?

he isnt gona invite you to sct again .. he was gona invite you to FTN .. :mellow:

FTN > SCT

got it ?

Fanboi's ftw. Did you get the invite to FTN the same way?

[blackbird]

You sed it nicely. But plz don do this...I dont want more troble...you invite me and that you will ask for money, or you gonna disable the accout and I be alone on the street again. Is this what you planing to do?

he isnt gona invite you to sct again .. he was gona invite you to FTN .. :mellow:

in my humble opinion FTN > SCT

got it ?

Fanboi's ftw. Did you get the invite to FTN the same way?

fixed .. :dabs:






:pizza: :guinesssm

hope skizo doesnt see this thread :D

Stop bumping it then! Oops :D

no more bumps :snooty:

[ZedZedZed]

Why does your signatures then say not to PM you, because you're not FTN staff anymore?
Brandons sig says: "Please don't PM me about FTN, I'm not staff there."
He was just asking for orka`s mail.:)

[orka]

I PMed. I did get it right. I was in that he is gonna give me another s*t invite. sorry did get it. I am soory for my english and sorry for all and I apologize for all inconvenients.

[GoLDeN]

CONGRATZ dude u r the new member of heaven just make sure not to make any thing dumpy

[Zeus]

So your inviter got his invites through a paypal scam and it looks like you paid money to him for your invite. Two perfectly good reasons why loads of trackers out there would ban you. This has nothing to do with ScT's p2l system. Quite frankly Brandon the whole ScT hate thing is getting really boring. Sct probably makes money, we get it. They arent taking advantage of anyone. No one has to donate. I never have and I use the site quite happily and have invites. The idea that they ban people to try and make money through donations is ludicrous.

[blackbird]

CONGRATZ dude u r the new member of heaven just make sure not to make any thing dumpy

it was about a baby first .. now its about heaven :lol::lol:

are we really talking about torrent websites here ?

[GoLDeN]

CONGRATZ dude u r the new member of heaven just make sure not to make any thing dumpy

it was about a baby first .. now its about heaven :lol::lol:

are we really talking about torrent websites here ?

no we r talking about the almighty

[kavselj]

Let me try and explain it for the slow and special people. You even quoted part of my point.. lol
If you disable someone, that opens up another spot for someone else to purchase an invite. Make sense? So for example, Bob makes a simple mistake.. Will you have sympethy for bob? Or will you remove Bob from the equation and reserve a spot for 20 euro's? :yup:
You say a company is more likely to sell products with more customers. You're correct. The invite IS a product.. If you have a full site, how are you going to sell invites? :blink: I highly doubt their intention of opening slots is in regard to helping users...


yawn, yet another thread that brandon tries to take over with his sct hate

I'm going to clarify something for you real quick and simple.
Do I hate SCT? NO
Do I hate assholes? YES
Do I dislike people who take advantage of others for personal gain? Most definitely..

Read that a few times so you can get it in your mind.

PS: I like djgrrr and have respect for him. Just FYI.

When someone is disabled, the account isn't deleted immediately. So no, the spot is taken for a few days ;) And if you're using your money to get invites via donation than that is your problem. Definition of the word donation is to give something away and not expect anything in return.

So far you've been constantly telling everyone that staff @ ScT is using the donation money for personal gain. Now after all that time, how about you finally show us some proof rather than saying stuff all the time that is not even remotely true?







he isnt gona invite you to sct again .. he was gona invite you to FTN .. :mellow:

in my humble opinion FTN > SCT

got it ?

Fanboi's ftw. Did you get the invite to FTN the same way?

fixed .. :dabs:

:)



Why does your signatures then say not to PM you, because you're not FTN staff anymore?
Brandons sig says: "Please don't PM me about FTN, I'm not staff there."
He was just asking for orka`s mail.:)

Yeah and he asked for it to chat with him. Don't think we're that stupid. Besides, Orka's post just proved that ;)

[Brandon]

Haha, you are amazing at contradicting yourself. First you bash ScT with everything you have and then you type something like that. And not just in this thread, everywhere where ScT is mentioned. Even on FTN IRC you're showing how mature you are with retarded nicknames referring to ScT staff members.

You're right I misrepresented what I intended to say. I'm bashing p2l, which would be a lot of sites, not just sct. It doesn't mean I hate sct, I hate their goals and plans yes, but the site itself no. In fact the site has a ton of potential, it's just going about using it in the wrong way.





You sey it. I just gonna let I go. But I cant!!!, if someone like me care about it so much, and for it was the best feeling to be there, I will never let it go and forget. I learn my lesson here. Still my baby is missing and that all it metters right now.

I can promise you, it's not the end of the world. There are plenty of trackers out there that are just as good. Don't fret over the ones not worth fretting over ;)

PS: If you want on a site where the staff actually care about you and not your wallet, PM me your email.

Why does your signatures then say not to PM you, because you're not FTN staff anymore? Of course, lets make good impression now and give out some invites so people won't notice you being immature.
It says not to pm me b/c Private Messages: Unread 165, Total 497. <-- All of those are "please invite me to ftn" pm's.
Regarding me offering him an invite, it's called being nice. You should try it sometime. Not everyone is out to take advantage of others.





You sed it nicely. But plz don do this...I dont want more troble...you invite me and that you will ask for money, or you gonna disable the accout and I be alone on the street again. Is this what you planing to do?

he isnt gona invite you to sct again .. he was gona invite you to FTN .. :mellow:

FTN > SCT

got it ?

Fanboi's ftw. Did you get the invite to FTN the same way?[/quote]
You're just as much a fanboy as he is.

[GoLDeN]

Why does your signatures then say not to PM you, because you're not FTN staff anymore?
Brandons sig says: "Please don't PM me about FTN, I'm not staff there."
He was just asking for orka`s mail.:)

he is a member :P:P

[orka]

So your inviter got his invites through a paypal scam and it looks like you paid money to him for your invite. Two perfectly good reasons why loads of trackers out there would ban you. This has nothing to do with ScT's p2l system. Quite frankly Brandon the whole ScT hate thing is getting really boring. Sct probably makes money, we get it. They arent taking advantage of anyone. No one has to donate. I never have and I use the site quite happily and have invites. The idea that they ban people to try and make money through donations is ludicrous.

again i didnt make any money on it. I just gave it wrong guy who tricked me and played me! I look like fool right now....but most of time I am sad and unhappy that people think I got banned (DISABLED) for something wrong. I didnt! I never got banned in my LIFE, I never invite a cheater and I found 3 cheater and report them to protect people and communities form these people. But one of these kind of people found me and played me....my hands are tightup!

thank you all for you to reply and share with me my story

[kimii]

For the people who think Brandon is some saint.... Brandon answer this question. Why did you disable and IP ban one of my invites for no apparent reason? This following my arguement with you. Coincident? Knowing he is a active user on SCT. I questioned your staffers as to why.. yet all I get is they need to ask you about it (which has been well over a week). What was stated in the modcomments? No reason at all.... He had a seedbox.. and was somewhat active. He even occasionally visited IRC. Explain to your fellow fanboys Brandon. Are you really the "Saint" everyone thinks?

Food for thought. Don't judge a book by it's cover.

[piratex]

Nice to see u agreed with my word Polarbear ... yeah i do the same as i told above .. i wont go and beg on high site giveaways ..

But i maintain what i got preciously by never trading or misusing it :) .. i know how hard is to get in to high sites so hope he learns from what he have experienced by not so play with the account on these high sites




I agree with the facts .. but u should have been careful on sct and other sites .. they will just disable accounts if they feel the account is doing something wrong .. so better get the invites from freinds or family persons and dont try to missuse it

exactly - now go and get invites from your friends and family and stop asking for them in the invite forum :frusty:

i hate this hypocrisy. you are the first one who will be begging in the next sct giveaway thread.

[GoLDeN]

he is FTN sysop thats much better kimii

[Brandon]

Let me try and explain it for the slow and special people. You even quoted part of my point.. lol
If you disable someone, that opens up another spot for someone else to purchase an invite. Make sense? So for example, Bob makes a simple mistake.. Will you have sympethy for bob? Or will you remove Bob from the equation and reserve a spot for 20 euro's? :yup:
You say a company is more likely to sell products with more customers. You're correct. The invite IS a product.. If you have a full site, how are you going to sell invites? :blink: I highly doubt their intention of opening slots is in regard to helping users...



I'm going to clarify something for you real quick and simple.
Do I hate SCT? NO
Do I hate assholes? YES
Do I dislike people who take advantage of others for personal gain? Most definitely..

Read that a few times so you can get it in your mind.

PS: I like djgrrr and have respect for him. Just FYI.

When someone is disabled, the account isn't deleted immediately. So no, the spot is taken for a few days ;) And if you're using your money to get invites via donation than that is your problem. Definition of the word donation is to give something away and not expect anything in return.

So far you've been constantly telling everyone that staff @ ScT is using the donation money for personal gain. Now after all that time, how about you finally show us some proof rather than saying stuff all the time that is not even remotely true?



You're right that is the definition for the word donate. However, you expect to get something in return at sct b/c it says it in plain text.. "donate xx get xx invites". You even get a discount for donating more :blink:

It isn't my place to provide personal information about others (which my proof clearly shows). Last I checked it was human nature to express one's opinion on something. But I don't agree with taking it any further than that. Nobody has to believe what I say nor agree with it. You're wasting your time arguing with me as well as saying I hate sct when i've said many times I don't.. Why would I say I don't hate sct if I did?

[SgtMajor]

Hell hath no fury like a woman scorned.

[GoLDeN]

http://i9.tinypic.com/82cwnpc.jpg

[kimii]

You're wasting your time arguing with me as well as saying I hate sct when i've said many times I don't.. Why would I say I don't hate sct if I did?Funny when you spend countless hours on FST talking about how SCT is such a money grubbin site. Take a step back and go through your post history here on FST. How does obsessively talking crap about SCT prove that you "don't hate sct".

[Brandon]

For the people who think Brandon is some saint.... Brandon answer this question. Why did you disable and IP ban one of my invites for no apparent reason? This following my arguement with you. Coincident? Knowing he is a active user on SCT. I questioned your staffers as to why.. yet all I get is they need to ask you about it (which has been well over a week). What was stated in the modcomments? No reason at all.... He had a seedbox.. and was somewhat active. He even occasionally visited IRC. Explain to your fellow fanboys Brandon. Are you really the "Saint" everyone thinks?

Food for thought. Don't judge a book by it's cover.

This coming from the girl who has dated two torrent site owners, one living in another country? Same girl who would believe that e-boyfriend's lies about someone with no proof? :blink:
The reason staff said to talk to me was because I was the one who probably disabled, so it was me the person needed to deal with. Now if you were active in ftn irc you'd know i've been taking a ton of exams and haven't been around much lately, which is probably why I failed to make a comment. The argument between you and I was just that.. Between you and I.

PS: I never got any PM from anyone regarding it.

[Swax]

Let me try and explain it for the slow and special people. You even quoted part of my point.. lol
If you disable someone, that opens up another spot for someone else to purchase an invite. Make sense? So for example, Bob makes a simple mistake.. Will you have sympethy for bob? Or will you remove Bob from the equation and reserve a spot for 20 euro's? :yup:
You say a company is more likely to sell products with more customers. You're correct. The invite IS a product.. If you have a full site, how are you going to sell invites? :blink: I highly doubt their intention of opening slots is in regard to helping users...

Damn, why didn't ScT think of that first?
If they're that obsessed with money I wonder why they still hand out Warnings instead of Disabling all this deadwood...
238 Warned users...jeepers, that's almost €5000! If only they too were run by an economical mastermind :rolleyes:

So let me try and understand this, bear with me as I'm apparently 'slow and special'...
...every user is hogging a valuable €20 slot, correct? so ScT wants to get rid of as many as possible (or at least any that make a simple mistake)...to open up more slots and make more money, right? I've got that simple point now.
Each available slot is a 'product available on the shelf' you are basically saying.

Now here's another simple point; Each user is a 'customer'.

So each empty slot (potential product) is also one less customer. :(

If ScT wanted to make as much money as possible they'd find the ideal balance between number of full slots (customers) and number of open slots (products available).

Now I don't want to lose you even further...but...bear with me now....these 'products' (invites) are just as available when there are no empty spaces (max amount of customers).
Although their value may dwindle (due to usage wait time) they're still there with the maximum amount of potential customers.

Maybe ScT should stop handing out free invites to deserved members too, they're losing €€€'s per month if they keep it up.

[blackbird]

Hell hath no fury like a woman scorned.

http://xs321.xs.to/xs321/07464/rtyutryu.gif

:D

[Brandon]

You're wasting your time arguing with me as well as saying I hate sct when i've said many times I don't.. Why would I say I don't hate sct if I did?Funny when you spend countless hours on FST talking about how SCT is such a money grubbin site. Take a step back and go through your post history here on FST. How does obsessively talking crap about SCT prove that you "don't hate sct".

They are.. SCT, CT, etc.. I only use SCT as an example because it's more popular than the others.

[piratex]

orka From now on be careful with the sites ur on .. its good u use it wisely as there r many other ppl here like me looking for these sites for months ...

gdluck for u :)

[kimii]

Funny when you spend countless hours on FST talking about how SCT is such a money grubbin site. Take a step back and go through your post history here on FST. How does obsessively talking crap about SCT prove that you "don't hate sct".

They are.. SCT, CT, etc.. I only use SCT as an example because it's more popular than the others.Lets see.... TL's userbase is alot higher. FL's userbase is alot higher. SCC has the same userbase. :ermm:

BTW. Ive talked to 2 of your staff and the account holder whom got his account disabled talked to 1 of your staffer. I guess you guys need better communication? Maybe SOME of your staff should concentrate on handling your user's account maturely instead of immaturely obsessing over sct by having sct-related usernames ;)

[Brandon]

They are.. SCT, CT, etc.. I only use SCT as an example because it's more popular than the others.Lets see.... TL's userbase is alot higher. FL's userbase is alot higher. SCC has the same userbase. :ermm:

BTW. Ive talked to 2 of your staff and the account holder whom got his account disabled talked to 1 of your staffer. I guess you guys need better communication? Maybe SOME of your staff should concentrate on handling your user's account maturely instead of immaturely obsessing over sct by having sct-related usernames ;)

I really miss the sweet girl you used to be. You have a real nasty side to you heh.

As I said already.. SCT is the most popular, so I use it as the example.
As I also said already.. Has nothing to do with communication, has all to do with the fact that I put my school above the internet so I haven't been around much ;)

PS: Don't act like you never changed your nick in our irc to an sct username and did the same ;) Bit hypocritical of you.

Oh, and I even sent you a PM on here asking which user it was so I could check.. But as the subject of the pm said, you'll prob just ignore it :)

[kimii]

Your storage limit is full. username: pedro.

All the crap you put me through... no wonder why YOU bring out the worst in me.

[rapesauce10]

Drama!

Seriously, this is silly.

:[

[piratex]

This is Getting more tense now:ermm:

[Brandon]

Your storage limit is full. username: pedro.

All the crap you put me through... no wonder why YOU bring out the worst in me.

You and I both know it wasn't all me who put you through all of that. But as I said in the txt msg I sent you, I forgive you for turning your back on me after all that I did for you, and I won't hold back your actions b/c I know if the tables were turned and it was me in your position, I'd defend my gf at all costs. Even if I knew what she was saying was totally wrong and would result throwing away a 4 yr friendship based on no proof. I cleared some of my inbox, I'll look at the acct now.

PS: If I hate sct so much, why did i give you access to a topsite that we both knew you were using to fill sct's seed server? :blink:
As noted kimii, the signs of you being wrong are all there.. You just can't see them b/c you're mind is set on standing by someone else at all costs.

edit: I'm very curious to your answer regarding the topsite axx to fill a site I supposedly hate. Regarding Pedro, would you like me to PM you on here? Or where should I PM you regarding that?

[Vagaz]

This thread is all kinds of awesome. Lets post more info that hasn't been posted before, shall we? :)

[orka]

PS: If you want on a site where the staff actually care about you and not your wallet, PM me

Hi Brandon, I PMed you, but not shore if you have it, bc. I am loosing orientation in this thread. Thanks

[celtic]

My my my... What has this thread become ?

1)Who cares about site wars ?

2)kimii you contradicted yourself alot btw (Brandon disabled one of your invitees with no reason...Just like you did too most ftn staff (including myself) many times

3)Grow up time i think

Tbh im not gonna make anything here personal but you guys not think all this is getting stupid ?

So whether you are an ScT fanboy or FTN or even TL Its your own choice. Quite frankly i dont give two sh!ts what site you like.

[Brandon]

PS: If you want on a site where the staff actually care about you and not your wallet, PM me

Hi Brandon, I PMed you, but not shore if you have it, bc. I am loosing orientation in this thread. Thanks

Your PM box is full. Just send me your email.

[kimii]

My assumption. You giving me axx bc I actually talked to you on a normal basis. Once we stopped talking... you took it away.


2)kimii you contradicted yourself alot btw (Brandon disabled one of your invitees with no reason...Just like you did too most ftn staff (including myself) many timesI never disabled you. Get your facts straight. If memory serves me right.... I believe it was because you constantly griped about SCT and didnt use your account. Pedro on the otherhand.. He used his ftn account AND never said any harsh words regarding FTN.

Brandon... enlighten me. Why did you disable him?

[Brandon]

So whether you are an ScT fanboy or FTN or even TL Its your own choice. Quite frankly i dont give two sh!ts what site you like.

Truth is I really don't hate sct or I wouldn't have willingly helped get releases to it after being banned twice for something I didn't even do. The p2l system bothers me a lot, that should be pretty obvious. I could talk about MMSR's p2l and how bad it is etc.. But would that really get any point across? wtf is MMSR right? When someone feels passionate about something, they're going to be vocal about it. Seriously, if I hated sct I would never have staffed there, nor helped their uploads.. Shit why wouldn't I just straight up say I hate it if I did? Not like it would matter anyways since majority of you seem to think I do anyways.

[celtic]

I never referenced my sct acc, I was on about you disabling my invitees on ftn ;-) i have 4 more accs as if im really bothered anyway..

[kimii]

I never referenced my sct acc, I was on about you disabling my invitees on ftn ;-) i have 4 more accs as if im really bothered anyway..

eh ??

[GoLDeN]

I never referenced my sct acc, I was on about you disabling my invitees on ftn ;-) i have 4 more accs as if im really bothered anyway..

eh ??

is it hard to understand:whistling

[Brandon]

My assumption. You giving me axx bc I actually talked to you on a normal basis. Once we stopped talking... you took it away.

On the contrary. I gave you access because I was under the impression we were friends, and after finding out a bit about our situation, mentally I saw you differently and gave you a bit of trust that was lost b4. I took it away because you were a complete asshole to me (just being honest). Not to mention the fact that you lied your ass off to me multiple times.. How can you expect me to trust you on a topsite when I know for a fact you lie to me? Or better yet, how can you expect me to be a friend to you, when you're willing to turn your back on me and call me a liar based on the reasoning you hear from someone that:
A) even you used to dislike
B) has absolutely NO proof
C) lives in another country
D) probably wanted you and I to stop talking anyways because of his hopes to win you over (which he did) in fear of losing you to me after finding out information that even I had a hard time believing. You're under the false impression I would lie to get you back. What makes you think he wouldn't lie to win you over?

I took it away not because of our talking activities. I took it away b/c you were no longer a friend.



2)kimii you contradicted yourself alot btw (Brandon disabled one of your invitees with no reason...Just like you did too most ftn staff (including myself) many timesI never disabled you. Get your facts straight. If memory serves me right.... I believe it was because you constantly griped about SCT and didnt use your account. Pedro on the otherhand.. He used his ftn account AND never said any harsh words regarding FTN.

Brandon... enlighten me. Why did you disable him?

Celtic was referring to you disabling his invitees (he clarified in irc.. I had misunderstood)

Regarding Pedro, I disabled him based on a tip i received regarding him sharing his account. I typically disable accounts while I investigate them, but I guess I got too busy with school and forgot about it. Keep in mind my PC was also screwed up and I moved from windows back to linux.. I'm active on irc again now, so Pedro is more than able to come speak to me now.

[kimii]

Celtic was referring to you disabling him on FTN.When the hel did I disable him on ftn? Since my time staffing at FTN.. I was always on good terms with celtic (to my knowledge).. until the end of course.

Tip from someone of sharing account? Are you serious...................

[SgtMajor]

Anyone for coffee & biscuits?

PS - did orka get what he wanted from the OP? In fact, what /was/ this thread about anyway? :D

[KFlint]

still enjoying sharing with us your personal conflicts guys...?

we don't need to see this kind of scene again :shutup:

[WhoopDeDoo]

Thread title changed. Titles such as "like to help,then you could read this" are useless.

You couldn't do a spell check on his english too? I can't read it at all.:(

[celtic]

lol lemme clear that up, I was referring to my inviteees that were disabled by you for no reason.

As for this thread i think everyone should let it be now. Are we adults or children ? I now i stopped acting stupid when i was 10.

[Brandon]

Tip from someone of sharing account? Are you serious...................

Yea... Would you have rather me made up some random excuse? If you knew who the person was who was said to be sharing it with him you'd understand. I honestly don't look at the inviter of acct's btw, so I didn't even know you were the one who invited him.


Do you not care to comment on the other rather fair and valid comments I made in my other post? I would still love to hear what reasoning you can come up with for me having this big hate for sct yet giving a staff member there access to fill their server. Not to mention my other points were spot on..


still enjoying sharing with us your personal conflicts guys...?

we don't need to see this kind of scene again :shutup:

I would take it to PM, but that's not possible. Sorry :ermm:



PS - did orka get what he wanted from the OP? In fact, what /was/ this thread about anyway? :D
Yes

[blackbird]

its over :D

http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n191/livestrongtoday/Religion/LolCatRenderer-28.jpg

[celtic]

Infact i will post it


On the contrary. I gave you access because I was under the impression we were friends, and after finding out a bit about our situation, mentally I saw you differently and gave you a bit of trust that was lost b4. I took it away because you were a complete asshole to me (just being honest). Not to mention the fact that you lied your ass off to me multiple times.. How can you expect me to trust you on a topsite when I know for a fact you lie to me? Or better yet, how can you expect me to be a friend to you, when you're willing to turn your back on me and call me a liar based on the reasoning you hear from someone that:
A) even you used to dislike
B) has absolutely NO proof
C) lives in another country
D) probably wanted you and I to stop talking anyways because of his hopes to win you over (which he did) in fear of losing you to me after finding out information that even I had a hard time believing. You're under the false impression I would lie to get you back. What makes you think he wouldn't lie to win you over?

kimii, I remember seeing a post on here where you said not to believe everything people said. Why do you believe everything said about Brandon?

My last post since im pretty bored now lol

[zach]

Get a room. xD

[Defy]

These situations are seriously f*cked up. :( Good luck to everyone who lost their accounts due to dickhead inviters.

[freedom]

well.. sincerely what i like the most was when Brandon and Kimii was together.. but now it's just the rain :)

[DanielleD87]

MBrandon disabled one of your invitees with no reason...Just like you did too most ftn staff (including myself) many times.
this is why i use a different nick on all the sites i'm on. live and learn...

[tiolewis]

Yes this is true but SCT IMO should be a little more understanding. Sure the inviter was a piece of 5hit, but that doesn't mean this poor dude was. It is their tracker and so their rules, but I feel they should make good on the poor guys acct.

If the cops caught a thief they do not come to other peoples houses and take back the presents once they were given. PM me the Nick of the inviter and your site nick too.

Let me explain it to you from SCT's eyes. The more people they disable, the more people that can buy invites. They will have no sympathy for you unless you wave around some green bills in front of them. Don't take this post as being the same theory as the dickhead who got me disabled, but judging from the fact that:
A: They went p2l when they really didn't have to
B: They get way way way way more than enough "purchases" to handle their funds every month yet don't lower the prices (like most normal businesses would, unless they're running a max-profit business model)
C: They have a "rainy day fund" that should be overflowing by now which could probably fund the site for a few months..

I could go on and on. As much as I hate the person who hacked my acct and screwed me around, he did have some pretty good points. I'm sure most of you see it also, but are keeping your mouths shut due to the fact that you also know you're expendable in their eyes. (in fact I know that's true judging by the amount of PM's I got last time about it when I was compromised)


PS: I actually had proof about what my hacker was saying, which is probably why he said it. Guess he failed to copy that over when he was stealing my files and such. No I won't share it, never intended to in the first place. I'm not anti-sct, but I will state my facts and reasoning on a topic if I feel it's beneficial to others, regardless of the context it comes out in.

Agree 100 %

I was disabled from SCT with a ratio above 7, and i never do ANYTHING wrong ... , i dont understand.

FTN its the best tracker by far

[GoLDeN]

Let me explain it to you from SCT's eyes. The more people they disable, the more people that can buy invites. They will have no sympathy for you unless you wave around some green bills in front of them. Don't take this post as being the same theory as the dickhead who got me disabled, but judging from the fact that:
A: They went p2l when they really didn't have to
B: They get way way way way more than enough "purchases" to handle their funds every month yet don't lower the prices (like most normal businesses would, unless they're running a max-profit business model)
C: They have a "rainy day fund" that should be overflowing by now which could probably fund the site for a few months..

I could go on and on. As much as I hate the person who hacked my acct and screwed me around, he did have some pretty good points. I'm sure most of you see it also, but are keeping your mouths shut due to the fact that you also know you're expendable in their eyes. (in fact I know that's true judging by the amount of PM's I got last time about it when I was compromised)


PS: I actually had proof about what my hacker was saying, which is probably why he said it. Guess he failed to copy that over when he was stealing my files and such. No I won't share it, never intended to in the first place. I'm not anti-sct, but I will state my facts and reasoning on a topic if I feel it's beneficial to others, regardless of the context it comes out in.

Agree 100 %

I was disabled from SCT with a ratio above 7, and i never do ANYTHING wrong ... , i dont understand.

FTN its the best tracker by far


sure FTn is the best place ;)

[zach]

Brandon's password must have been: ilukimii :D
-hides-

[pro267]

Hey guys here's a crazy idea: why don't you just :lips: and make up? This situation just isn't healthy for both of you.
My amazing kindergarten-level psychology abilities tell me you still care for each other.. I mean, why else would you even bother replying to each other if you didn't?

[redcorvette]

Brandon, you do know that kimii isnt staff at sct right? :-O

[TCD004]

Hello everybody,

I am back :-B My first post after longer break...

Brandon, IMO you did well, that you invited orka to FTN. I know this guy from other place and I can say, that he seems to be trustworthy and good guy... I don't know, who was his ( ScT ) inviter, but i will try to find out this information ( is better to warn others ). But I would never buy invite to any tracker...

I'm really sorry guys, but this thread was like an argentinian soap opera...

The thread was about something else. I hope that we have HAPPY END ( orka has FTN instead of ScT ) and everybody live in peace and love from now :-)

[redcorvette]

TCD004, i can tell you taht there is NO END to this argument. An argument is an argument until everyone is satisfied by a common outcome(which is never going to happen). Brandon states a few facts to which some members disagree and therefore the argument starts.

IMO, these arguments are never really bad. If these points arent talked about in FST, where will they be talked about. It is rather obvious that Brandon is an anti-sct fanboy or everyone assumes he is one.

and kimii is always trying to counter-argue with Brandon in every single argument, no matter where its posted. I have seen it with my eyes. So either kimii hates brandon and tries to argue with him all the time or kimii is just in it for the fun!

Not that i dont care about it..it just becaomes a personal attack argument rather than a community argument like: kimii is blaming brandon for banning one of her invitees..give me one reason how that is ever connected to the argument. However this thread had begun with purpose of being banned for no reason on /SCT/ and not on ftn.

[psxcite]

"And like the sands through an hourglass, so are the days of our lives..."
(cue soap opera theme music)

[Dr_Green_Thumb]

Let me explain it to you from SCT's eyes. The more people they disable, the more people that can buy invites.
Thats funny I recently got three invites that just showed up one day.

*I no longer have those invites so do not PM me

[orka]

PS - did orka get what he wanted from the OP?

Few words to end my happy ending. After short sleep I have this night a learn my lesson to do not take what is given to you from stranger-like I took the evil candy. Did I get what I wanted? I wasn’t expecting anything, I want you to help me and read my story. Some people got offended, some here pointed fact about buying invites from strangers, but after all you HELP ME in 1st place to get thru this hard time. Like I sad I never get disabled before, always play fair , and that way it was for me so hard to deal with the fact. Like to thank you all here. I was really surprised about Brandon’s help and I would like to say thank you, truly I do! Hope now I gonna find my peace and retire in happiness

[piratex]

Nice to see that u have learnt ur mistake orka .. i say u a goodluck with ur current gift u got :) and use it wisely





PS - did orka get what he wanted from the OP?

Few words to end my happy ending. After short sleep I have this night a learn my lesson to do not take what is given to you from stranger-like I took the evil candy. Did I get what I wanted? I wasn’t expecting anything, I want you to help me and read my story. Some people got offended, some here pointed fact about buying invites from strangers, but after all you HELP ME in 1st place to get thru this hard time. Like I sad I never get disabled before, always play fair , and that way it was for me so hard to deal with the fact. Like to thank you all here. I was really surprised about Brandon’s help and I would like to say thank you, truly I do! Hope now I gonna find my peace and retire in happiness

[tiolewis]

Congratulations mate

[Feeling]

All i can say is this thread gave me giggles, Brandons crappy little rants usually do, the bullshit that comes outta that guys mouth... lol.

:lol:

[Brandon]

IMO, these arguments are never really bad. If these points arent talked about in FST, where will they be talked about. It is rather obvious that Brandon is an anti-sct fanboy or everyone assumes he is one.

and kimii is always trying to counter-argue with Brandon in every single argument, no matter where its posted. I have seen it with my eyes. So either kimii hates brandon and tries to argue with him all the time or kimii is just in it for the fun!

Not that i dont care about it..it just becaomes a personal attack argument rather than a community argument like: kimii is blaming brandon for banning one of her invitees..give me one reason how that is ever connected to the argument. However this thread had begun with purpose of being banned for no reason on /SCT/ and not on ftn.

Well, I'm not really anti-sct fanboy, I just get irritated how people's minds can be so one-tracked.. If you love something passionately (like sct, ftn, tl, piratebay, etc) that's great, but that doesn't mean u cant keep an open mind and think outside the box :blink:

Regarding kimii's view towards me, you're absolutely right. I'm sure a lot of that has to do with how she's influenced from her new significant other (who hates me, and probably doesn't want me talking to her b/c he knows she'll eventually catch on to what I'm saying and see it for herself). For example, her automatically believing I'm a liar about something just b/c her significant other "says" I am without even needing him to provide any proof whatsoever. Ever had a friend that you did anything you could for, just turn their back on you one day b/c someone said they should? I have. Do I have a defense? No. In fact, most of the time I don't even get the opportunity to stand up for myself b/c majority is done in PM so that I won't get that chance, thus influencing her even greater. Any post I make with the words sct and anything that could possibly be taken in regard as a bad comment with that 2 letter word in the same vicinity, is an automatic alarm for her to regard me as a jerk/anti-sct/etc. Why? I'm sure significant other or one of her other manipulated friends tells her and it just backfires from there thus causing her to attack me b/c.. well.. it's her bf's site. I could sit here all day and point out facts and give examples (such as me giving her topsite axx to fill sct's servers...) yet at the end of the day, none of that makes any difference b/c SOMEONE will always find some way to manipulate that into something bad. I don't know if she avoided that comment b/c she actually realized I was right for once, or they couldn't find anything to counter it in a negative way.. Who knows. Truth is, this thread has all kinds of proof kimii's mind has been manipulated from her taking her own actions and attacking me for the same ones. Even the fact that I've been accused of always thinking negatively, when it would seem anything I say about sct is negative, vs me trying to make a positive statement regarding my views about taking advantage of a situation someone is in (such as making a site pay 2 leech just b/c you know it's popular and you know people will pay when it's not necessarily needed). Does that mean I hate sct? No.. That just means I don't like their current strategy and I find it wrong. Is it bad of me to constructively criticize them? Maybe, just maybe I have the hope that if I'm vocal enough about the topic (p2l) and enough people catch on, certain sites will change their ways. But, nobody ever sees that part of the argument. Instead you get people pointing fingers and yelling "SCT HATER SCT HATER!!!!". It all goes along with people not thinking outside the box.

I could keep on going about things I see going on that most of you probably can't even begin to see, sometimes I just don't have the energy nor the willpower to continue to repeat myself over and over. I'll sum things up one more time. Do I hate sct? No. Do I hate their strategy? Yes. Do I use sct as an example b/c it gets the most attention? Yes. It's just like any other political matter. Think of Martin Luther King (first example that came to mind). When he spoke out about African Americans, what do you think he used as an example? Something people would never even think about? No.. He used things like Rosa Parks, which was all known to everyone. Did that make him a white people hater? Not at all.. It just meant he was against the strategy white people were using to treat African Americans. Did he get harassed by white people? Damn straight he did.

redcorvette I'm impressed you were able to see something that I thought only I saw going on regarding me and another person. I'd be interested to see what you would say if you knew all the details, but unfortunately I'm not at liberty to tell you due to personal nature of the other person. But regardless, I'm still rather impressed. Kimii probably does hate me and probably will continue to hate me until the influencing factor is out of the picture. Any time someone can believe something said without any proof regarding the issue is a wonderful example of manipulation, human influence, and power over someone's thoughts.

ps: I don't hold anything against you kimii, I know you can't help it.

Oh and Feeling, you claim what I say is always some bullshit rant. Seems anything I see you say is just some petty attack against me regarding how all I say is bullshit. At least what I say results in something meaningful vs some meaningless comment against me usually to the effect (or so you hope) of people wanting to think I'm a liar? Why not add something productive? Or do you just not have anything productive to say at all and you just feel the need to go against me b/c you know I'm right and you have no defense whatsoever on the topic? Or perhaps this is just another attempt for you to further comment to kimii about how I'm somehow lying about everything I said thus making her trust you and benefiting your personal relationship in some way while using it against me.. Similar to what you did with the unfortunate activities that happened to her and I and another jealous jerk? It's pretty funny how you never have any proof, whereas I state plenty. You might have some influence on others due to being the sct god you think you are, and being able to instate a sense of fear over them regarding losing their sct account over something said, but you have no power over me. The truth always makes it's way out eventually, sometimes it just takes a while.
In the end though, what goes around comes around my friend.

[Ghost+Rider]

Oh and Feeling, you claim what I say is always some bullshit rant. Seems anything I see you say is just some petty attack against me regarding how all I say is bullshit. At least what I say results in something meaningful vs some meaningless comment against me usually to the effect (or so you hope) of people wanting to think I'm a liar? Why not add something productive? Or do you just not have anything productive to say at all and you just feel the need to go against me b/c you know I'm right and you have no defense whatsoever on the topic? Or perhaps this is just another attempt for you to further comment to kimii about how I'm somehow lying about everything I said thus making her trust you and benefiting your personal relationship in some way while using it against me.. Similar to what you did with the unfortunate activities that happened to her and I and another jealous jerk? It's pretty funny how you never have any proof, whereas I state plenty. You might have some influence on others due to being the sct god you think you are, and being able to instate a sense of fear over them regarding losing their sct account over something said, but you have no power over me. The truth always makes it's way out eventually, sometimes it just takes a while.
In the end though, what goes around comes around my friend.



That wud take me months to read
Btw i agree with what Brandon says :yup:
This guy is generous though i have never seen SCT admins giving Invites to the deserving ppl here

[fook3d]

This thread is missing something, Or rather, Someone...

*Drum rolls*

http://www.thehollywoodgossip.com/wp-content/uploads/2006/09/2006-08-15T025423Z_01_NOOTR_RTRIDSP_2_OUKEN-UK-LEISURE-DANCING.jpg

On a serious note, I think you should have kept whatever issues with kimii (sp?) between you and her.

Never good to put your "Dirty laundry" out in public imo.

I also agree with you on the ScT cash cow movement, Not because i have ever been there etc, But because they defy the whole concept of bit torrent which was to make free peer to peer downloading.

A donation is that, A donation to help a site to run, But they are simply profiting from their system.

I will probably get some responses with a little animousity towards me now, But so be it. Its my opinion and it can be what i want it to be :P

[Brandon]

That wud take me months to read
Btw i agree with what Brandon says :yup:
This guy is generous though i have never seen SCT admins giving Invites to the deserving ppl here

I was actually going to use what u just said as an example (the part about how they never give invites here for free, b/c they know they can just sell them) but I knew it would just be held as another "sct attack" when the reality is, sct isnt the only one doing that. I also kept that example back because I knew the second I said it, Feeling or kimii would take the response to go and offer them just to destroy what I said. But yea, nice to know you caught on to it without me saying it.

[Polarbear]

i have a dream that one day sct staff and ftn staff are kissing each other.

let freedom ring from every peerlist.



edit: skizo, i thought you locked this?!

[fook3d]

i have a dream that one day sct staff and ftn staff are kissing each other.

let freedom ring from every peerlist.


So many wouldnt expect that, that they may be willing to pay.

Make sure you take pictures when it happens :D

[Ghost+Rider]

i have a dream that one day sct staff and ftn staff are kissing each other.

let freedom ring from every peerlist.


So many wouldnt expect that, that they may be willing to pay.

Make sure you take pictures when it happens :D

:O

[Feeling]

My tummy hurts from all the laughing, stop it Brandon you'll give me a stitch in a soon!

[dragos]

That wud take me months to read
Btw i agree with what Brandon says :yup:
This guy is generous though i have never seen SCT admins giving Invites to the deserving ppl here

I was actually going to use what u just said as an example (the part about how they never give invites here for free, b/c they know they can just sell them) but I knew it would just be held as another "sct attack" when the reality is, sct isnt the only one doing that. I also kept that example back because I knew the second I said it, Feeling or kimii would take the response to go and offer them just to destroy what I said. But yea, nice to know you caught on to it without me saying it.

this is a nice way of not saying it ,isn't it ;):whistling

[Brandon]

My tummy hurts from all the laughing, stop it Brandon you'll give me a stitch in a soon!

Once again. Another post that results in a meaningless, somewhat childish response. You do realize the fact that you only post here on this site when the topic involves me, and those posts are only relating to "more bullshit from Brandon" or "lol u make my tummy hurt from laughing" or some other petty comment towards me.. More proof that you have bitter feelings towards me with nothing better to add to the topic. Also shows your immaturity ;)

If you have nothing productive to add to the topic, why post? I guess I could be like you and say something meaningless like the fact that your sct avatar is a picture of a Backstreet Boys member.. But then I realize you're the perfect example of someone I never want to become.

[Detale]

Hmmm 8 members and 2 guests reading this thread. I wonder what site the 2 guests are from? 1FTN and 1 SCT. Wow what an enjoyable thread this is.

[Feeling]

the thread is, "Sct disabled. Help? (http://filesharingtalk.com/vb3/f-bittorrent-43/t-sct-disabled-help-250057-post2419870#post2419870)" not "Brandon posted here so u can too feeling".

:rolleyes:

Im not going to argue against your bullshit anymore, so ill just let you run your mouth, i don't have to convince anyone other than the people that are close to me what a retard you actually are. Ill let the whole of FST believe your well worded lies.

Why post? This is a forum is it not? Its what your suppose to do. Why do YOU post is what im thinking, just so you can make people think bad things about sct, me, and the other staff and users. :yup:

My avatar is very pro tyvm. Don't worry, i wont ever be like the bullshitting little retard that you are. :noes:

[Polarbear]

the thread is, "Sct disabled. Help? (http://filesharingtalk.com/vb3/f-bittorrent-43/t-sct-disabled-help-250057-post2419870#post2419870)" not "Brandon posted here so u can too feeling".


with all due respect, feeling. pointing at the topic of the thread isn't a very intelligent move.
brandon did help in his way.

what did you do?

if this wasn't a ftn vs. sct discussion you would never have posted in this thread and ignored the issues of one of your members.

[Feeling]

one of my members? his inviter used a hacked paypal account to invite him and another, so i we disabled him and the others.

He wasn't one of sct's members at all. His ban was justified. All brandon did was make himself look good in this sct vs himself arguement, that i mite add, he started himself.

[dragos]

the thread is, "Sct disabled. Help? (http://filesharingtalk.com/vb3/f-bittorrent-43/t-sct-disabled-help-250057-post2419870#post2419870)" not "Brandon posted here so u can too feeling".


with all due respect, feeling. pointing at the topic of the thread isn't a very intelligent move.
brandon did help in his way.

what did you do?

if this wasn't a ftn vs. sct discussion you would never have posted in this thread and ignored the issues of one of your members.

the guy who opened the thread posted his problem and in the same page got his answer, hacked paypal , etc. That's it , problem solved. Brandon of course , as always, ScT takes your money, feeling drives a Porsche ( and a ferrari as backup in the garage) by your donation money, like always , even users are bored with his atitude . Have you seen a FTN thread in which ScT staff starts bashing FTN ? I haven't. Brandon should take his frustrations in PM's instead making a public scene

[Brandon]

the thread is, "Sct disabled. Help? (http://filesharingtalk.com/vb3/f-bittorrent-43/t-sct-disabled-help-250057-post2419870#post2419870)" not "Brandon posted here so u can too feeling".

:rolleyes:

Im not going to argue against your bullshit anymore, so ill just let you run your mouth, i don't have to convince anyone other than the people that are close to me what a retard you actually are. Ill let the whole of FST believe your well worded lies.

Why post? This is a forum is it not? Its what your suppose to do. Why do YOU post is what im thinking, just so you can make people think bad things about sct, me, and the other staff and users. :yup:

My avatar is very pro tyvm. Don't worry, i wont ever be like the bullshitting little retard that you are. :noes:

You already convinced the public with the fact that you have no defense against what has been said (other than saying I'm a liar), as well as the fact that you're immature (calling me a childish names like retard and making posts against me just b/c you dont like the topic). You also, once again called me a liar with yet again, absolutely no proof.

Why do I post? I post because I like to be vocal about things that are important to me. I also post b/c I know that I tend to see things in a more detailed perspective than others, so I like to use that ability to show others. For example, I know you're going to stop posting in here because even you know you have nothing you can in public that won't be put under the microscope and studied. Whereas, you can for example go to kimii right now (like u prob are) and say "Brandon is such a fuckin liar, <insert some clever lie or comment about me>" and nobody can say "er wtf?" or counter it b/c the people close to you are only close to you because they don't know your true nature yet. You know, the only reason I found out about it was when I was staff on your site and found out you were being two-faced and telling 3 different staff members totally different things. Remember when you told me Chriz wanted me gone from sct and you were trying to take up for me, and then I talked to Chriz and he showed me logs of you saying you wanted me gone? That was the first time your true colors started to show through. You prob also remember that before that truth came out, you had manipulated me enough to not only vocally state in your forums defending you, but also going against an innocent person (Chriz) who I should have been defending.

I also know you're going to stop posting b/c even you know you're making yourself look like a fool. The fact alone that you're going to sit there and call me childish names (calling me a Retard when I have a college education and you don't is kinda funny though) whereas I'm mature enough not to call you childish names, to me makes me a better person.

Want the icing on the cake? I feel sorry for you. Most people can't help being who they are, and judging by what I know about you, the pictures I've seen with the people you hang out with, etc.. I really do feel bad for you because I know you probably are who you are based on how/where you grew up. You know what the difference is between you and I? I'm not ashamed to say I actually hope you change some day. I really do.



the guy who opened the thread posted his problem and in the same page got his answer, hacked paypal , etc. That's it , problem solved. Brandon of course , as always, ScT takes your money, feeling drives a Porsche ( and a ferrari as backup in the garage) by your donation money, like always , even users are bored with his atitude . Have you seen a FTN thread in which ScT staff starts bashing FTN ? I haven't. Brandon should take his frustrations in PM's instead making a public scene

I never once said anyone drove a Ferarri or a porshe. See now you're making immature posts as well, and taking things out of context from what they are. Have I seen an sct thread in which sct starts bashing FTN, no. Why? Because FTN isn't the example of taking torrent sites away from their original purpose and using them in what could be said immoral purposes. What could they possibly say that FTN is doing that is wrong? We don't do any immoral practices..

In defense of myself though, my first post in this topic was only informative and stated facts with no personal affiliation to it. It only got personal when kimii made the attack against me. Perhaps you should re-read this thread dragos.

PS: congrats, you get to keep your sct acct.

Oh, but to counter what you just said dragos, you should hang out in their irc more often. Better yet try talking about FTN there and tell me you won't get kicked/banned ;) Did you know you can't even have ftn in your vhost on sct's irc network? One of our staff members actually had theirs forcefully removed (celtic). I'm sure they'll remove it from the kick/ban script b4 you can test it though :P
Once again though I'll remind you, I wasn't the one who started to make it personal.

[Polarbear]

one of my members? his inviter used a hacked paypal account to invite him and another, so i we disabled him and the others.

He wasn't one of sct's members at all. His ban was justified. All brandon did was make himself look good in this sct vs himself arguement, that i mite add, he started himself.

you are right. the ban was eligible and i would probably have disabled him as well.

it was also pretty obvious that the guy was a victim and quite desperate.
he also seemed to have liked sct pretty much.

so a few words from you like this:

"you were a victim of a scammer and we're sorry for your loss. unfortunately we can't enable your account again."

would not only show respect to the guy, but do good for the reputation of sct in general.

way better than showing up, calling sysops from other sites retards and then leave again.

you are not an official com rep here, but over 3.000 people from all over the world will read this thread.

i think it's a great chance to represent sct in a friendly and polite way and underline everyone's oppinion that it is without any doubt one of the best trackers out there.

[Feeling]

You might have college education, but you really don't have any common sense.

This thread was about how a user had an account at sct and lost it. You come along and post the same shit you always do in any thread regarding sct, about the donations and how we spend it on things like cars and all that crap, its the same old thing from you, and it makes me laugh out loud.

Im happy with who i am, i am who i am yes, but you dont know that much about me, how can you feel bad for me from "the pictures I've seen with the people you hang out with, etc". LOL there are no pics, and what's the "etc" u always make it sound like there is lots more, like in a previous post where you say when sct stops "selling" invites, ratios, t-shirts... etc. We don't sell anything we just give rewards to ppl that donate, and we don't give anything else other than invites and some gig back to them, as for the t-shirts... lol, that was a one time special offer, like i said how this post started, a college education doesn't mean you have common sense :rolleyes:



so a few words from you like this:

"you were a victim of a scammer and we're sorry for your loss. unfortunately we can't enable your account again."

would not only show respect to the guy, but do good for the reputation of sct in general.

way better than showing up, calling sysops from other sites retards and then leave again.

you are not an official com rep here, but over 3.000 people from all over the world will read this thread.

i think it's a great chance to represent sct in a friendly and polite way and underline everyone's oppinion that it is without any doubt one of the best trackers out there.


What you don't know is that all his questions were answered in our IRC support channel. This is just the aftermath from Brandon and his little spammy posts.

[Brandon]

one of my members? his inviter used a hacked paypal account to invite him and another, so i we disabled him and the others.

He wasn't one of sct's members at all. His ban was justified. All brandon did was make himself look good in this sct vs himself arguement, that i mite add, he started himself.

you are right. the ban was eligible and i would probably have disabled him as well.

it was also pretty obvious that the guy was a victim and quite desperate.
he also seemed to have liked sct pretty much.

so a few words from you like this:

"you were a victim of a scammer and we're sorry for your loss. unfortunately we can't enable your account again."

would not only show respect to the guy, but do good for the reputation of sct in general.

way better than showing up, calling sysops from other sites retards and then leave again.

you are not an official com rep here, but over 3.000 people from all over the world will read this thread.

i think it's a great chance to represent sct in a friendly and polite way and underline everyone's oppinion that it is without any doubt one of the best trackers out there.

Very good post.


You might have college education, but you really don't have any common sense.

This thread was about how a user had an account at sct and lost it. You come along and post the same shit you always do in any thread regarding sct, about the donations and how we spend it on things like cars and all that crap, its the same old thing from you, and it makes me laugh out loud.

Im happy with who i am, i am who i am yes, but you dont know that much about me, how can you feel bad for me from "the pictures I've seen with the people you hang out with, etc". LOL there are no pics, and what's the "etc" u always make it sound like there is lots more, like in a previous post where you say when sct stops "selling" invites, ratios, t-shirts... etc. We don't sell anything we just give rewards to ppl that donate, and we don't give anything else other than invites and some gig back to them, as for the t-shirts... lol, that was a one time special offer, like i said how this post started, a college education doesn't mean you have common sense :rolleyes:

Wow Feeling. Is that bullshit I see coming from your mouth? Where in here did I state you profit and buy cars? Or did you just make that up..:dry: And there are pics.. Once again you calling me a liar (saying there are none) and me once again proving you wrong. Like this one for example:
http://img141.imageshack.us/img141/4039/img0862jf6.jpg

You also state: "like in a previous post where you say when sct stops "selling" invites, ratios, t-shirts... etc. We don't sell anything we just give rewards to ppl that donate, and we don't give anything else other than invites and some gig back to them". I can recall quite clearly you even making numerous news posts as well as mass pm's about the t-shirts you were "selling". Also, it would seem my college education would benefit me in what you just said, b/c anyone who has an education clearly knows what the definition of a "purchase/sale" and a "donation" consists of. I hate to break it to you dude.. But that's like saying me going to the store and getting a t-shirt, is like me donating money and them rewarding me with it.. Do I donate to my cell phone company and get a reward of minutes too? Money -> product -> purchase. We learn that in Marketing.



What you don't know is that all his questions were answered in our IRC support channel. This is just the aftermath from Brandon and his little spammy posts.

If that were true, why was this topic created by the user? :frusty:

[redcorvette]

@Brandon
Hey Brandon, i have known you before and you know me too. I know how you were before and it doesnt seem like you have changed a bit. Same old friendly guy. But due to me being really really lame, i couldnt be there forever. it was my mistake...i was still a newbie. If you want to know who i am, PM me and i'll tell you who I am.

TBH, why is only your side of the argument ever heard? Why doesnt sct staff not reply with proper counter-facts or counter-arguemnts to prove you wrong?
Either they are extremely confident that you are wrong or they are just here for the fun of laughing at you blatantly enough so it would seem that you arguments are merely funny and not serious facts.

I exactly what you mean Brandon. Dont repeat yourself too many times but dont resort yourself to attack personally. Repeating yourself will only make ppl think that you're trying to drill (force) the idea into their head rather than them trying to understand it.

Martin Luther King Jr. and Mahatma Gandhi were good men, if u are taking one for an example, i'll provide the other one. Both followed the same principles: passive violence. Its better that you take the hit and turn your cheek than to rather fight back. If you really really know deep inside of you that you are right for speaking out loud, then do it...no one will stop you, but they will follow you. Until one day you shall suffer the same fate of being assassinated (or disabled).

Hey Brandon, if u really cared for kimii, you will know how she will be feeling right now. I know how it is. You cannot let your hope die just because some ppl trying to suppress you. If that were the case, i would have seen this thread locked long before i even laid my eyes on it. I have read every single post in this thread before i made my own post. I did not think about the posts much. I just posted what i thought i saw in your posts and kimii's and many others'.

I have known you Brandon for quite sometime when i was on YOUR site (yes you were there, kimii was there: she hated me for what i had done, i bet she never forgave me, but i have been over it, Zlo was always there and our good old staff members there). You were all there on the staff page and i visited the irc everyday. I had known you well my old friend, and i will never forget you.

I digress with all this talk. let us continue the argument.

[YoYoY]

i didn't know that sct disables invite trees?!

yes i think they do
" The Generl" got disabled because of that
i saw him writing that before

[Polarbear]

@ feeling:

If you know how painfull is it for me. Plz dont ask more and more questions....But I cant go to irc and I cant speak with staff.....
Is here somebody who could help me???

of course there's the possibilty, that he's not telling the truth.

if you tell me he was listened to in irc, i believe you. why should you make this up.

[Brandon]

Oh, and in regards to the "etc" part Feeling..

That was in place to the more personal things about you that I might not know, and that you might not share with people. Perhaps you had a bad childhood for example. In one of the logs I read that was taken from kimii's computer (I won't share that in here b/c thats a bit personal and I don't have her consent) I saw you say you live alone and ur parents are never home. Speaking from a psychological point of view, that can do a lot of damage on a child growing up. You know, statistically the children who grow up in single parent families are more likely to have problems later on than those who have both (which is why it's so easy for you to take advantage of kimii since she runs to you for that companionship not knowing any better). Sounded to me like you had the unfortunate childhood of having neither, which would explain why you act the way you do. Being able to run to a father when you have a problem can build a lot of compassion in someone's heart, vs someone who doesn't have that relationship growing up and in turn holds that anger inside and builds off it. As I said, I feel sorry for you b/c I know you can't help who you are.



@Brandon
Hey Brandon, i have known you before and you know me too. I know how you were before and it doesnt seem like you have changed a bit. Same old friendly guy. But due to me being really really lame, i couldnt be there forever. it was my mistake...i was still a newbie. If you want to know who i am, PM me and i'll tell you who I am.

TBH, why is only your side of the argument ever heard? Why doesnt sct staff not reply with proper counter-facts or counter-arguemnts to prove you wrong?
Either they are extremely confident that you are wrong or they are just here for the fun of laughing at you blatantly enough so it would seem that you arguments are merely funny and not serious facts.

I exactly what you mean Brandon. Dont repeat yourself too many times but dont resort yourself to attack personally. Repeating yourself will only make ppl think that you're trying to drill (force) the idea into their head rather than them trying to understand it.

Martin Luther King Jr. and Mahatma Gandhi were good men, if u are taking one for an example, i'll provide the other one. Both followed the same principles: passive violence. Its better that you take the hit and turn your cheek than to rather fight back. If you really really know deep inside of you that you are right for speaking out loud, then do it...no one will stop you, but they will follow you. Until one day you shall suffer the same fate of being assassinated (or disabled).

Hey Brandon, if u really cared for kimii, you will know how she will be feeling right now. I know how it is. You cannot let your hope die just because some ppl trying to suppress you. If that were the case, i would have seen this thread locked long before i even laid my eyes on it. I have read every single post in this thread before i made my own post. I did not think about the posts much. I just posted what i thought i saw in your posts and kimii's and many others'.

I have known you Brandon for quite sometime when i was on YOUR site (yes you were there, kimii was there: she hated me for what i had done, i bet she never forgave me, but i have been over it, Zlo was always there and our good old staff members there). You were all there on the staff page and i visited the irc everyday. I had known you well my old friend, and i will never forget you.

I digress with all this talk. let us continue the argument.


I'm really impressed with your outlook on things, and I'm also starting to think FTN made a mistake letting u disappear.. I admire people like you who can say something meaningful enough to make me stop and think about it. There are always going to be people who will take something said as negative vs positive when it could be taken either way. What I say about sct might look like negative comments, but if you look at the big picture my intentions are quite good actually. People shouldn't be hating me for speaking out against sct, they should be thanking me for expressing my views regarding the wrongness in what the site is doing and helping me make a difference. It always takes one person to be brave and speak out and take a stand. I decided to be that person. Did you ever think that maybe the reason I speak out about sct so much is because I actually care about it and want it to change? Of course not.. The human thing to do is to look at something negatively before thinking about it positively.

Regarding what you said about the assassination of those two people, history has proven that the most influential and admired people get assassinated because people are afraid they'll make a difference. The fact that Feeling is bothered enough by what I've said to post in this thread just b/c of it (he never posts here on FST unless its about me), makes me feel good knowing that what I'm saying obviously means something. I'm sure Feeling would be the one assassinating me in a real life situation (he did disable me no sct. twice.).

About kimii, I've never lost hope nor faith in her. She's a smart girl, she'll figure it out eventually. She might be a bit blinded right now, but deep down she's got a pretty good heart so I have no doubt that'll shine through in time.


@ feeling:

If you know how painfull is it for me. Plz dont ask more and more questions....But I cant go to irc and I cant speak with staff.....
Is here somebody who could help me???

of course there's the possibilty, that he's not telling the truth.

if you tell me he was listened to in irc, i believe you. why should you make this up.

The difference is though, orka has no reason to come here and lie about it. Feeling does though, which would be to prevent him from looking bad at how he handled the situation. Not saying Feeling is lying b/c I don't know.. I'm just saying that orka's position is more believable due to the circumstances.

[blackbird]

Oh, and in regards to the "etc" part Feeling..

That was in place to the more personal things about you that I might not know, and that you might not share with people. Perhaps you had a bad childhood for example. In one of the logs I read that was taken from kimii's computer (I won't share that in here b/c thats a bit personal and I don't have her consent) I saw you say you live alone and ur parents are never home. Speaking from a psychological point of view, that can do a lot of damage on a child growing up. You know, statistically the children who grow up in single parent families are more likely to have problems later on than those who have both (which is why it's so easy for you to take advantage of kimii since she runs to you for that companionship not knowing any better). Sounded to me like you had the unfortunate childhood of having neither, which would explain why you act the way you do. Being able to run to a father when you have a problem can build a lot of compassion in someone's heart, vs someone who doesn't have that relationship growing up and in turn holds that anger inside and builds off it. As I said, I feel sorry for you b/c I know you can't help who you are.


this is turning into a personal attack now :mellow:

[Brandon]

Oh, and in regards to the "etc" part Feeling..

That was in place to the more personal things about you that I might not know, and that you might not share with people. Perhaps you had a bad childhood for example. In one of the logs I read that was taken from kimii's computer (I won't share that in here b/c thats a bit personal and I don't have her consent) I saw you say you live alone and ur parents are never home. Speaking from a psychological point of view, that can do a lot of damage on a child growing up. You know, statistically the children who grow up in single parent families are more likely to have problems later on than those who have both (which is why it's so easy for you to take advantage of kimii since she runs to you for that companionship not knowing any better). Sounded to me like you had the unfortunate childhood of having neither, which would explain why you act the way you do. Being able to run to a father when you have a problem can build a lot of compassion in someone's heart, vs someone who doesn't have that relationship growing up and in turn holds that anger inside and builds off it. As I said, I feel sorry for you b/c I know you can't help who you are.


this is turning into a personal attack now :mellow:

No attack at all actually. He asked and I elaborated. I was very sympathetic in what I said.

PS: an attack is initiated by one person. If this was an attack, then it was one he willingly requested because he brought it up.

[sense]

Wow is that a picture of a Best Buy Geek Squad meeting? (I kid, I kid, :P)
This is seriously turning into a Dr. Phil episode.

Brandon, as a user/admirer of FTN (take it as some friendly advice) you need to let it go. Let this thread go, you have said your peace and before anything else is said you should just move on. Anything else that needs to be said can easily be said/discussed on irc in private. I don't think this is the correct outlet for this type of stuff.

C'est la vie Brandon C'est la vie.

[Zeus]

Brandon - stop getting personal. I very much doubt you have the experience or knowledge of Feeling to have any real insight into the effect of his childhood and even if you did it has no place here.


Because FTN isn't the example of taking torrent sites away from their original purpose and using them in what could be said immoral purposes. What could they possibly say that FTN is doing that is wrong? We don't do any immoral practices.
You might want to take a look closer to home before you start taking the moral high ground. FTN and ScT arent so different you know. Both sites facilitate millions of dollars worth of copyright infringement and both sites accept money from their members. When you're in that position its not to easy to turn around and say what you do is fine but if you sell leech then you are scum.

At the end of the day Brandon you need to accept the fact that most users dont care if a site makes money. Look at TL they openly admit to it and everyone here loves them. You could start a thread here with absolute proof that ScT was making money.... You would get 20 pages of everyone posting how outrageous this was and how ScT staff are greedy bastards, then everyone who used sct would go back there and the others would go back to requesting invites. Nothing would change. I understand why as a former staffer you would be upset becuase you've put effort in to a site and now see someone else making money, but you need to appreciate that shouting about it here wont change anything. You're not with ScT anymore, you've started your own site and done things your way. Move on.

[Zeus]

(dupe post)

[Brandon]

Brandon - stop getting personal. I very much doubt you have the experience or knowledge of Feeling to have any real insight into the effect of his childhood and even if you did it has no place here.

I won't comment on that. But have it be known, you also don't have any experience or knowledge of what I know so your comment becomes a bit void.




Because FTN isn't the example of taking torrent sites away from their original purpose and using them in what could be said immoral purposes. What could they possibly say that FTN is doing that is wrong? We don't do any immoral practices.
You might want to take a look closer to home before you start taking the moral high ground. FTN and ScT arent so different you know. Both sites facilitate millions of dollars worth of copyright infringement and both sites accept money from their members. When you're in that position its not to easy to turn around and say what you do is fine but if you sell leech then you are scum.

Sure, FTN does take a step across morality in terms of warez. But only one of those two sites crosses the line and sells it. Not only are they selling things that artists/corporations are creating, but also the time that the groups use to get that infringement material even to them. Yes both sites accept money from their members, but once again, only one of those sites accepts it in an appropriate way. Once again, one site taking advantage of the situation at hand, vs the other not. It's very easy to say what I do is fine when compared to something that crosses the line on many more levels.



At the end of the day Brandon you need to accept the fact that most users dont care if a site makes money. Look at TL they openly admit to it and everyone here loves them. You could start a thread here with absolute proof that ScT was making money.... You would get 20 pages of everyone posting how outrageous this was and how ScT staff are greedy bastards, then everyone who used sct would go back there and the others would go back to requesting invites. Nothing would change. I understand why as a former staffer you would be upset becuase you've put effort in to a site and now see someone else making money, but you need to appreciate that shouting about it here wont change anything. You're not with ScT anymore, you've started your own site and done things your way. Move on.

It's not the fact that sct/tl/etc makes money that is the problem. It's the fact that sct/tl/etc takes advantage of a situation (not to mention taking advantage of corporations and the groups that are putting all of this stuff on the internet) in order to benefit from it. Do you agree that it's ok for people to take advantage of others? I personally don't. And regarding TL, the fact that they openly admit to making money off the site takes away the ability for them to take advantage of users because the users know beforehand that they're making a profit. It's already in writing that they're purchasing. Is what TL does right? Of course not. TL takes advantage of the situation, sct takes advantage of the situation and the users. Both sites are at wrong. Besides, you and I both know SCT didn't have to go p2l to stay up.
The point isnt that sites (sct as my example) make money or could be making money. It's that sites take advantage of others in such a shady way that the average person wouldn't realize it. I strongly disagree with people taking advantage of others.

[Zeus]

I won't comment on that. But have it be known, you also don't have any experience or knowledge of what I know so your comment becomes a bit void.

I completely agree that I dont know taht much about you. But heres what I do know. I know youre a college student, so you probably dont have a great deal of experience of psychology. And I know you live the other side of the Atlantic to Feeling, so you probably dont know him that well.
Its easy to make sweeping statements such as "perhaps you had an unhappy childhood" but you dont really know about whether he did or not and, as I said before, personal stuff like this doesnt belong here.


Sure, FTN does take a step across morality in terms of warez. But only one of those two sites crosses the line and sells it. Not only are they selling things that artists/corporations are creating, but also the time that the groups use to get that infringement material even to them. Yes both sites accept money from their members, but once again, only one of those sites accepts it in an appropriate way. Once again, one site taking advantage of the situation at hand, vs the other not. It's very easy to say what I do is fine when compared to something that crosses the line on many more levels.

But point is who are you to say where the line should be drawn or what an "appropriate" way to cover your costs is. Making a few bucks from the site is nothing compared to the amount that torrent sites are costing the copyright owners everyday. People have different ideas of where the line should be drawn. I happen to agree that the line should be drawn at making a profit but I understand that others might not see it that way. At the end of the day I would rather all torrent sites made money (as long as i can use them for free) than have no sites at all.


It's not the fact that sct/tl/etc makes money that is the problem. It's the fact that sct/tl/etc takes advantage of a situation (not to mention taking advantage of corporations and the groups that are putting all of this stuff on the internet) in order to benefit from it. Do you agree that it's ok for people to take advantage of others? I personally don't. And regarding TL, the fact that they openly admit to making money off the site takes away the ability for them to take advantage of users because the users know beforehand that they're making a profit. It's already in writing that they're purchasing. Is what TL does right? Of course not. TL takes advantage of the situation, sct takes advantage of the situation and the users. Both sites are at wrong. Besides, you and I both know SCT didn't have to go p2l to stay up.
The point isnt that sites (sct as my example) make money or could be making money. It's that sites take advantage of others in such a shady way that the average person wouldn't realize it. I strongly disagree with people taking advantage of others.Well I personally think TL is a lot worse. Not only do they profit on a much larger scale, but they also re-enable banned accounts if you pay them and have adverts. They also have a vip system that traps users in to it, as if you take advantage of their offer of leech then you will get banned if you dont renew 3months later. Kingrob might 'fess up that the sysops rake in a killing but if you read their faq it will also say that all money is spent on server costs

I dont agree that ScT takes advantage of anyone. Its very clear that you dont have to donate. Its also very clear
what you get if you do donate. How is that taking advantage?


I agree that ScT probably didnt have to go p2l to say up (although ultimately not seeing their paypal accounts I can only make a good guess on this). That said, I stand by the fact that what good does it do to yell about it? Most users only really care about getting their files fast and dont really care about site politics, certainly not enough to stop using a site.

[Brandon]

I completely agree that I dont know taht much about you. But heres what I do know. I know youre a college student, so you probably dont have a great deal of experience of psychology. And I know you live the other side of the Atlantic to Feeling, so you probably dont know him that well.
Its easy to make sweeping statements such as "perhaps you had an unhappy childhood" but you dont really know about whether he did or not and, as I said before, personal stuff like this doesnt belong here.

Actually, after finding out how good I was at reading people's personalities and behaviors I changed my major to psychology. So contrary to your belief, I have 3 and a half years of psychology as of now (semester is ending). My minor is IT, and I plan on getting my masters once I graduate. As I said, you don't know much about me or what I know either. You don't have to live in the same country to understand somebody. Any psychologist knows that the key to understanding anything is through communication. Everything you do involves communication, even reading this post, your eyes are communicating with your brain. Talking to Feeling online, and seeing him act and behave is also communication. You're right I might not know factually that he had a bad childhood because I haven't asked him. But I can say based on what I do know, that the chances are high.




Sure, FTN does take a step across morality in terms of warez. But only one of those two sites crosses the line and sells it. Not only are they selling things that artists/corporations are creating, but also the time that the groups use to get that infringement material even to them. Yes both sites accept money from their members, but once again, only one of those sites accepts it in an appropriate way. Once again, one site taking advantage of the situation at hand, vs the other not. It's very easy to say what I do is fine when compared to something that crosses the line on many more levels.

By point is who are you to say where the line should be drawn or what an "appropriate" way to cover your costs is. Making a few bucks from the site is nothing compared to the amount that torrent sites are costing the copyright owners everyday. People have different ideas of where the line should be drawn. I happen to agree that the line should be drawn at making a profit but I understand that others might not see it that way. At the end of the day I would rather all torrent sites made money )as long as i can use them for free) than have no sites at all.

Good point. My main point was that someone saying something needed to be done, and only saying/doing it just to take advantage of the opportunity, vs the need for it.




It's not the fact that sct/tl/etc makes money that is the problem. It's the fact that sct/tl/etc takes advantage of a situation (not to mention taking advantage of corporations and the groups that are putting all of this stuff on the internet) in order to benefit from it. Do you agree that it's ok for people to take advantage of others? I personally don't. And regarding TL, the fact that they openly admit to making money off the site takes away the ability for them to take advantage of users because the users know beforehand that they're making a profit. It's already in writing that they're purchasing. Is what TL does right? Of course not. TL takes advantage of the situation, sct takes advantage of the situation and the users. Both sites are at wrong. Besides, you and I both know SCT didn't have to go p2l to stay up.
The point isnt that sites (sct as my example) make money or could be making money. It's that sites take advantage of others in such a shady way that the average person wouldn't realize it. I strongly disagree with people taking advantage of others.Well I personally think TL is a lot worse. Not only do they profit on a much larger scale, but they also re-enable banned accounts if you pay them and have adverts. They also have a vip system that traps users in to it, as if you take advantage of their offer of leech then you will get banned if you dont renew 3months later. Kingrob might 'fess up that the sysops rake in a killing but if you read their faq it will also say that all money is spent on server costs

How do you know sct doesn't re-enable accounts if you pay them? The thing I like about TL is all the answers are clearly out in the open. There are no uncertainties. When all the answers are on the table, it's hard to say someone was taken advantage of because they knew beforehand the circumstances at hand.



I dont agree that ScT takes advantage of anyone. Its very clear that you dont have to donate. Its also very clear
what you get if you do donate. How is that taking advantage?

You don't have to, but they make it difficult enough that you have to resort to it. That's considered taking advantage of both a person, and the situation. You don't have to buy the gas at my gas station, but would you be willing to walk 5 miles to get it elsewhere? Prob not, because the limited supply will cause you to eventually resort to getting it from me. Yes, sct prob hands out free invites, but I bet you it's on a very limited scale. That way, since the demand is so high people are forced to resort to buying them, but sct can say that they don't sell them b/c "some" users have them. Same with selling GB. SCT knows that there's high demand to use the tracker. They also know that the larger the userbase, the harder to seed back. They're even smart enough to know that most users don't have an internet connection fast enough to upload in competition with the servers. So they take advantage of the users and the situation and offer GB's for sale knowing that users will either have to not use the site, or purchase the GB. Make sense? That's taking advantage of the users who have crappy internet connections.

A more positive way to handle that would have been doing something another site did (changing the ratio from 1:1 to 1:2).



I agree that ScT probably didnt have to go p2l to say up (although ultimately not seeing their paypal accounts I can only make a good guess on this). That said, I stand by the fact that what good does it do to yell about it? Most users only really care about getting their files fast and dont really care about site politics, certainly not enough to stop using a site.

There's so much demand and loyalty from some users on SCT, I can guarantee people would have donated willingly without expecting GB or invites in return to keep it up. That should be pretty obvious. I don't speak my mind expecting change to happen. I do speak my mind hoping for change to happen though. There's a phrase that goes a little something like this: "The worst thing you can say, is nothing at all."

Here's the question on my mind. Why can't sct just give out invites normally to every user instead of doing it for donating? Could it be related to the 3979 EUR of 1500 EUR donations currently in their account? Let me rephrase that. Does SCT "need" to sell invites?
Goes along with what I said about limited supply. What better way to get donations then to open 3,000 or so slots with a limited supply of free invites in the population.
Say it with me. Taking. Advantage.
TL's goal is to make money which explains why they do what they do. What's sct's goal? If them opening slots on site was to help users and get more people in, why didn't they give an invite to every user for free? Is any of this making sense?

[GoLDeN]

i didn't know that sct disables invite trees?!

yes i think they do
" The Generl" got disabled because of that
i saw him writing that before


true

[Zeus]

Actually, after finding out how good I was at reading people's personalities and behaviors I changed my major to psychology. So contrary to your belief, I have 3 and a half years of psychology as of now (semester is ending). My minor is IT, and I plan on getting my masters once I graduate. As I said, you don't know much about me or what I know either. You don't have to live in the same country to understand somebody. Any psychologist knows that the key to understanding anything is through communication. Everything you do involves communication, even reading this post, your eyes are communicating with your brain. Talking to Feeling online, and seeing him act and behave is also communication. You're right I might not know factually that he had a bad childhood because I haven't asked him. But I can say based on what I do know, that the chances are high.

I actually dont think 3 years studying something at college amounts to considerable experience. You might disagree though. I also think theres only so much you can tell from someone over the internet. Either way I think we should probably just drop this point because it doesnt really matter. I still think that this info doesnt belong here.


How do you know sct doesn't re-enable accounts if you pay them? The thing I like about TL is all the answers are clearly out in the open. There are no uncertainties. When all the answers are on the table, it's hard to say someone was taken advantage of because they knew beforehand the circumstances at hand.I dont know that theyve never done it. I do know that if they do then they dont openly advertise it and try to pressure users into donating to get back in.


You don't have to, but they make it difficult enough that you have to resort to it. That's considered taking advantage of both a person, and the situation. You don't have to buy the gas at my gas station, but would you be willing to walk 5 miles to get it elsewhere? Prob not, because the limited supply will cause you to eventually resort to getting it from me. Yes, sct prob hands out free invites, but I bet you it's on a very limited scale. That way, since the demand is so high people are forced to resort to buying them, but sct can say that they don't sell them b/c "some" users have themYes I accept that with the exception of some older members like myself that if you want invites you have to buy them. But you act like people really need invites. You can use the site quite happily without inviting anyone else. Some sites dont hand out any invites at all and nobody complains about that. So I still dont accept that they are taking advantage of anyone.


Same with selling GB. SCT knows that there's high demand to use the tracker. They also know that the larger the userbase, the harder to seed back. They're even smart enough to know that most users don't have an internet connection fast enough to upload in competition with the servers. So they take advantage of the users and the situation and offer GB's for sale knowing that users will either have to not use the site, or purchase the GB. Make sense? That's taking advantage of the users who have crappy internet connections. Actually in my experience the larger the site the easier to seed back it is. I accept that its difficult on Sct if you dont have a seed box, especially if you actually leave your house and dont have them time to constantly jump on torrents as soon as they are uploaded. I dont think Sct should be too apologetic about this though as its what leads to them having excellent speeds.


A more positive way to handle that would have been doing something another site did (changing the ratio from 1:1 to 1:2).

Yeah it would be lovely if they moved to a nice share index/no ratio system where eveyone could get by without fear of being banned for low ratio. However, they arent taking advantage of users by moving to the new system, and heres why... the old system was even harsher!
If they had moved away from a fairer system to one where users had to pay then Id be with you, but they havent. On the old system those that couldnt keep up got banned, now at least they have a chance if they are willing to buy upload.


There's so much demand and loyalty from some users on SCT, I can guarantee people would have donated willingly without expecting GB or invites in return to keep it up. That should be pretty obviousYou're probably right. It is possible that enough of these people werent willing to keep donating every month but I accept Sct is almost certainly quite profitable now they are p2l.


I don't speak my mind expecting change to happen. I do speak my mind hoping for change to happen though. There's a phrase that goes a little something like this: "The worst thing you can say, is nothing at all."

Here's the question on my mind. Why can't sct just give out invites normally to every user instead of doing it for donating? Could it be related to the 3979 EUR of 1500 EUR donations currently in their account? Let me rephrase that. Does SCT "need" to sell invites?

No they dont need to. By selling them they will get more donations which = more money. I agree with you.


Goes along with what I said about limited supply. What better way to get donations then to open 3,000 or so slots with a limited supply of free invites in the population.
Say it with me. Taking. Advantage.
TL's goal is to make money which explains why they do what they do. What's sct's goal? If them opening slots on site was to help users and get more people in, why didn't they give an invite to every user for free? Is any of this making sense?We seem to be fundamentally in agreement. ScT wants to make money. I just dont agree they are really taking advantage of the users. They are more taking advantage of an opportunity to make money. Maybe we both mean the same thing and are just wording it differently.

/me collapses from too much quoting

[Feeling]

Seeing as you are so interested in my childhood, it was a nice one thanks, no problems at all. :happy: At least its something different than the "ScT is a money machine" rant that happens to appear in anything concerning ScT on here.

We at sct have gone into depth about where the money goes on ScT, which is more than anysite has done just to show the users what we do for them.

Tbh, what we at sct do is none of your buisness actually, if you put the amount of effort you do in trying to bash sct and its staff and a certain female member as you do into your own site, you might have a good site one day.

Just give up on your stupid rants, like zeus said, no one really cares about it, you dont even care, but its the only thing you can do to make ScT look bad in peoples eyes.

Oh this line made me lol again with the way you worded it.
"They're even smart enough to know that most users don't have an internet connection fast enough to upload in competition with the servers"

Most users? You do know ScT has 50% Seed boxes and 40% Swe 100mb home lines, that leaves 10%, yea thats most users brandon. Your college education coming into play there.

Not really gonna comment on the kimii thing, yea shes a smart girl, thats why she stop talking to you bud, nothing to do with me.

As for the rest about not giving invites away and gigs when ppl donate, that's for us sct staff to decide, yes we have talked about it on staff and things may change in the future but at the mo its staying like it is, it allows us yo provide more content for sct and faster ( not like things could get any faster :happy: ) downloads. Win Win for the users esp the 15,500 that haven't donated, so 1,500 users have kept the site alive over the past 2 and a 1/4 years... that's not bad tbh. As some one said, we don't make you pay to be on sct, as long as u seed and ain't a retard you account is fine, if you wanna donate to help sct that's personal choice, thats what you ain't getting B.

Anyhow, my last post here, as the user in question has been dealt with.

Im sure B will go on to post his well worded crap, and im sure he will wow over the FST troops. :frusty:

/ Fee

[Feeling]

Dupe...

[Feeling]

Dupe...

[Brandon]

Tbh, what we at sct do is none of your buisness actually, if you put the amount of effort you do in trying to bash sct and its staff and a certain female member as you do into your own site, you might have a good site one day.

Another personal attack on me. Seems very common for you. btw, I never bashed you nor that certain female.. More assumptions/misinterpretations from you huh.



Just give up on your stupid rants, like zeus said, no one really cares about it, you dont even care, but its the only thing you can do to make ScT look bad in peoples eyes.

As i said, just using it as an example.



Oh this line made me lol again with the way you worded it.
"They're even smart enough to know that most users don't have an internet connection fast enough to upload in competition with the servers"

Most users? You do know ScT has 50% Seed boxes and 40% Swe 100mb home lines, that leaves 10%, yea thats most users brandon. Your college education coming into play there.

Oh? Someone with a college education would know not to give statistical numbers without showing data to back it up:frusty:



Not really gonna comment on the kimii thing, yea shes a smart girl, thats why she stop talking to you bud, nothing to do with me.

She only stopped talking to me b/c you put lies into her head about me making up something that quite possibly made pretty damn good sense. That was all you dude. I was the one who blocked her btw.




Anyhow, my last post here, as the user in question has been dealt with.

Im sure B will go on to post his well worded crap, and im sure he will wow over the FST troops. :frusty:

/ Fee

Has nothing to do with how I word anything. Has everything to do with backing up what is said.

/Bran

[celtic]

Wow that was some read... now on to the next part yaaaaaaay
/me gets the coffee & biscuits ready

[swi7ch]

lol, thank f*ck I was told about this thread! This, without a doubt, rivals some of the seasoned soap operas ever seen on TV!

You have e-dramas, e-relationships, e-spies, e-thugs... all the works!


:bowdown:

[Zeus]

much more interesting than a thread about some guy whining about being banned cos he bought an invite from a scammer isnt it :)

[raj3186]

:wacko:

[Swax]

How do you know sct doesn't re-enable accounts if you pay them?

How do you know FTN doesn't re-enable accounts if you pay them?
How do you know any site doesn't?
I'll be eagerly awaiting any promised proof in the post.


Goes along with what I said about limited supply. What better way to get donations then to open 3,000 or so slots with a limited supply of free invites in the population.
Say it with me. Taking. Advantage.
Limited is the opposite of unlimited, well done. Any closed tracker with a limited amount of servers has a limited amount of invites.

Maybe you didn't mean 'limited', maybe you meant 'restricted', I personally wouldn't call 14,000 invites within the system, the majority being free, particularly restrictive to the community as a whole.



What's sct's goal? If them [b]opening slots on site was to help users and get more people in[b], why didn't they give an invite to every user for free? Is any of this making sense?
Could you please explain what "help" users in your case means?
(Not the basic concept like actually bothering to explain why users get banned on site, even when your own staff are pestering you to do so)
Opening slots is not a 'reward' for existing members, if anything it is a 'reward' for non-members who want to join.
These new users offer new forms of activity in the forum, produce more peers on torrents (both in seeding speeds and their ability to leech significantly), and just happen to allow some members to invite their friends, yes.

In an attempt to get back on topic, allowing orka13 to stay would have prevented a deserving person with a legitimate invite from inviting a friend (yes, highly coincidentally the limited amount of invites is due to the limited amount of places).
The user got a clear explanation of the situation on PM onsite (through his friend) and even quoted that here. He then entered ScT support and received the same explanation and the matter was solved.

The user has since asked to be reinstated and offered to donate if done so. Despite him saying he was broke after originally paying his inviter.
ScT feel he would not be a good addition to the site as he (a) offers money for invites, (b) is offering to bribe staff to get re-enabled.
ScT was his first choice however they do not want to be associated with such users...
..but you can currently find orka13 on FTN

[kimii]

Brandon wasn't there a deal you made with a certain FTN user that him donating monthly you would watch over his account to make sure he wasn't disabled due to bad ratio? :rolleyes:

[sense]

You do know ScT has 50% Seed boxes and 40% Swe 100mb home lines, that leaves 10%,

:drunk::glag::oops::stars::lol:

[Pazzini]

I do not see why ( nearly ) every time ScT or FTN is mentioned a war of words breaks out.

Brandon and kimii (http://filesharingtalk.com/vb3/members/kimii-134734) obviously have some problems....but I fail to see why it should always end up on a public forum for everyone to see.

All your personal problems should be discussed behind closed doors via PM, IM or by phone/text.

I sincerely hope you guys sort out your differences as life is too short - trust me, I found that out the hard way.

I wish you guys all the best and I pray you resolve your differences soon.

Kind Regards

[sense]

Why doesn't someone lock this? This is beyond ridiculous at this point.

[kimii]

I do not see why ( nearly ) every time ScT or FTN is mentioned a war of words breaks out.

Brandon and kimii (http://filesharingtalk.com/vb3/members/kimii-134734) obviously have some problems....but I fail to see why it should always end up on a public forum for everyone to see.

All your personal problems should be discussed behind closed doors via PM, IM or by phone/text.

I sincerely hope you guys sort out your differences as life is too short - trust me, I found that out the hard way.

I wish you guys all the best and I pray you resolve your differences soon.

Kind Regards

I was originally here asking about a FTN account disabled since his staff wasnt able to talk to him regarding it but he is able to post numerous long post here.... So I thought I'd try and ask him in here. I don't see his point in bringing my past up with him.... but he always ends up doing that.

[sokrates]

well thats true love kimii.. ;)
btw why has this become a 17 pages long thread?
the problem was solved pretty fast..
arent here any mods around?

[kavselj]

I also know you're going to stop posting b/c even you know you're making yourself look like a fool. The fact alone that you're going to sit there and call me childish names (calling me a Retard when I have a college education and you don't is kinda funny though) whereas I'm mature enough not to call you childish names, to me makes me a better person.

[09.11.2007]@[00:55:13] * Brandon changes topic to 'Welcome to SCT - PAYPAL BEEN HACKED BUT WE JUST BUYED NEW PS3 PLZ DONATE ASAP OR WE CLOSE K ? THX'
[09.11.2007]@[00:56:40] * celtic is now known as djleet
[09.11.2007]@[00:56:43] <&djleet> yeah
[09.11.2007]@[00:56:45] * Brandon is now known as FeeFag
[09.11.2007]@[00:57:19] <&djleet> y0 FeeFag you better up donations
[09.11.2007]@[00:57:21] <SurlyDuff> 9000 euros per month?...damn
[09.11.2007]@[00:57:24] <&djleet> i buyed car insurance
[09.11.2007]@[00:57:25] <dimorphios> lol
[09.11.2007]@[00:57:26] <fee> beep beep :p
[09.11.2007]@[00:57:31] <&djleet> and xbox360 elite
[09.11.2007]@[00:57:35] <Shivom> hey FeeFag
[09.11.2007]@[00:57:36] <~FeeFag> lol
[09.11.2007]@[00:57:36] <Shivom> how ud oing
[09.11.2007]@[00:57:39] <~FeeFag> good
[09.11.2007]@[00:57:43] <~FeeFag> send us some donations
[09.11.2007]@[00:57:45] <~FeeFag> i need a new pc

[09.11.2007]@[01:03:31] <Shivom> FeeFag i didnt think payment was neccassary to simply ahev a discussion
[09.11.2007]@[01:03:49] <~FeeFag> Shivom.. this is sct dude
[09.11.2007]@[01:09:14] * FeeFag is now known as Brandon

I could go on, if I wanted to. Must say, this really proves you are mature and way above us with your college education. /me bows down to Brandon, the most mature person around

[Swax]

They must be obvious lies Kavselj, Brandon wouldn't stoop to such a level, he has a college education remember.

http://img337.imageshack.us/img337/2573/ohsocleverds4.png

This screenshot must be photoshopped too I guess... :whistling

Damn haters trying to make Brandon look like a hypocrite, he's not an ScT hater remember...

[dragos]

well running a site which always was and as long as sct exists ,always will be, number 2 must be though for him, so they do what they can .Living in peace would be better actually, the net is big enough for both sct and ftn ...

[Brandon]

Brandon wasn't there a deal you made with a certain FTN user that him donating monthly you would watch over his account to make sure he wasn't disabled due to bad ratio? :rolleyes:
We were in financial need and a friend of mine offered to help, yes. I told him that I would be a lot more lenient towards him due to him helping us out. I'm not ashamed of that.



I do not see why ( nearly ) every time ScT or FTN is mentioned a war of words breaks out.

Brandon and kimii (http://filesharingtalk.com/vb3/members/kimii-134734) obviously have some problems....but I fail to see why it should always end up on a public forum for everyone to see.

All your personal problems should be discussed behind closed doors via PM, IM or by phone/text.

I sincerely hope you guys sort out your differences as life is too short - trust me, I found that out the hard way.

I wish you guys all the best and I pray you resolve your differences soon.

Kind Regards

I was originally here asking about a FTN account disabled since his staff wasnt able to talk to him regarding it but he is able to post numerous long post here.... So I thought I'd try and ask him in here. I don't see his point in bringing my past up with him.... but he always ends up doing that.

You know damn well you could have come to ftn irc very easily and confronted me yourself, as could he.



I also know you're going to stop posting b/c even you know you're making yourself look like a fool. The fact alone that you're going to sit there and call me childish names (calling me a Retard when I have a college education and you don't is kinda funny though) whereas I'm mature enough not to call you childish names, to me makes me a better person.

[09.11.2007]@[00:55:13] * Brandon changes topic to 'Welcome to SCT - PAYPAL BEEN HACKED BUT WE JUST BUYED NEW PS3 PLZ DONATE ASAP OR WE CLOSE K ? THX'
[09.11.2007]@[00:56:40] * celtic is now known as djleet
[09.11.2007]@[00:56:43] <&djleet> yeah
[09.11.2007]@[00:56:45] * Brandon is now known as FeeFag
[09.11.2007]@[00:57:19] <&djleet> y0 FeeFag you better up donations
[09.11.2007]@[00:57:21] <SurlyDuff> 9000 euros per month?...damn
[09.11.2007]@[00:57:24] <&djleet> i buyed car insurance
[09.11.2007]@[00:57:25] <dimorphios> lol
[09.11.2007]@[00:57:26] <fee> beep beep :p
[09.11.2007]@[00:57:31] <&djleet> and xbox360 elite
[09.11.2007]@[00:57:35] <Shivom> hey FeeFag
[09.11.2007]@[00:57:36] <~FeeFag> lol
[09.11.2007]@[00:57:36] <Shivom> how ud oing
[09.11.2007]@[00:57:39] <~FeeFag> good
[09.11.2007]@[00:57:43] <~FeeFag> send us some donations
[09.11.2007]@[00:57:45] <~FeeFag> i need a new pc

[09.11.2007]@[01:03:31] <Shivom> FeeFag i didnt think payment was neccassary to simply ahev a discussion
[09.11.2007]@[01:03:49] <~FeeFag> Shivom.. this is sct dude
[09.11.2007]@[01:09:14] * FeeFag is now known as Brandon

I could go on, if I wanted to. Must say, this really proves you are mature and way above us with your college education. /me bows down to Brandon, the most mature person around

I never said I was way above anyone, so I'm not sure where you got that idea from. I did say that I knew a bit more about certain concepts, ideas, and definitions because of my education. I also never said my college education made me more mature than anyone. Hey, I didn't even say I was never immature at times :blink: See, it's one thing to be silly when you're joking around (celtic and i were a bit intoxicated and goofing around.. at least I think he was also intoxicated.. some people enjoy laughing and being silly) vs calling someone a retard in a topic where it's not funny. If you want to be silly about me feel free as long as it's something that actually consists of being fun and silly.

There's a difference between being silly in irc, and calling someone a childish name in a serious topic.


They must be obvious lies Kavselj, Brandon wouldn't stoop to such a level, he has a college education remember.

http://img337.imageshack.us/img337/2573/ohsocleverds4.png

This screenshot must be photoshopped too I guess... :whistling

Damn haters trying to make Brandon look like a hypocrite, he's not an ScT hater remember...

No.. not photoshopped actually. Yet another example of FTN goofing around. What I do find funny though is how you attack me when that was pretty much a group activity. And I still would like to know how I can be an sct hater yet provide you guys with axx (kimii?), instead of just goofing around about a site (which doesn't mean it involves hatred).


well running a site which always was and as long as sct exists ,always will be, number 2 must be though for him, so they do what they can .Living in peace would be better actually, the net is big enough for both sct and ftn ...


All personal opinion. I would also like for you to state how this relates to anything said, nor how it contributes at all in any positive form considering I never said FTN was better or vice versa.


Don't think I didn't expect the sct crew to come up in here and try be all one-sided. Have you failed to notice how I actually spoke positive in here regarding sct (i clearly said it had a lot of potential, feel free to look) whereas you guys (dragos) bash FTN.

hmm.. At the end of the day one thing still matters. Some people in here are liars, and I'm not one of them. Nothing you say can change my feelings on this, nor bring me down. I've gotten a shitload of pm's on here and elsewhere about how right I am with what's been said. I stated nothing but facts, as well as gave information and data to back them up. What have you done?

[Pazzini]

Why doesn't someone lock this? This is beyond ridiculous at this point.

Agreed!

If members want to continue this debate then do it by PM.

The OPs problem has been solved thus the topic should be locked.

Where's a mod when you need one?!

[LackOfInterest]

On top: Sorry to hear about you account man, didn't read the whole thread cause most of it is childish bullshit but I hope things turn out/are ok for you.

Side note: This feud between ftn and sct I think has really run it's course. If any of the site admins say that you aren't arguing about it you guys are full of shit. If you REALLY felt that you didn't need to argue anything you wouldn't be posting here. I know you guys feel the need to stand up for your cherished zero day sites but for fucks sake give it a rest. If someone else wants to talk shit let them talk shit, someone needs to be the bigger person and NOT TALK SHIT BACK. I have no problem with ftn or sct but seriously guys, you have a site to run, you shouldn't be concerned about every 12 year old's opinion.

[Swax]

I never said I was way above anyone, so I'm not sure where you got that idea from...

...whereas I'm mature enough not to call you childish names, to me makes me a better person.

...


I also never said my college education made me more mature than anyone.

...(calling me a Retard when I have a college education and you don't is kinda funny though) whereas I'm mature enough not to call you childish names, to me makes me a better person.

No doubt there's a clear explanation for these clear examples of what is the spitting image of hypocrisy.:rolleyes:

If it's due to my lack of college education then I truly apologise...

[Feeling]

At the end of the day one thing still matters. Some people in here are liars, and I'm not one of them.

:lol:



I've gotten a shitload of pm's on here and elsewhere about how right I am with what's been said.

:lol:



I stated nothing but facts, as well as gave information and data to back them up. What have you done?

:lol:

You stated nothing but your own personal bull which was set out to tarnish ScTs image. You still have no proof, no facts and no data to back up anything, so why try and convince the FST users that you have? They cant really be that dumb to believe your words are true?

Just give up on you little vendetta to tarnish ScT, its Staff and users. Spend some time working on your own site rather than trying to rip others.

If you continue this little feud you have as much sense as a brick wall. :frusty:

[Brandon]

...whereas I'm mature enough not to call you childish names, to me makes me a better person.

...


I also never said I was perfect, nor did I state I didn't ever make a mistake. That also doesn't make me a hypocrite for making a memory mistake. Just fyi.


I also never said my college education made me more mature than anyone.

...(calling me a Retard when I have a college education and you don't is kinda funny though) whereas I'm mature enough not to call you childish names, to me makes me a better person.

You do realize that typically anything that's put in braces is usually a side comment, often times a thought or sarcastic comment. I guess you didn't find the joke in calling someone a retard when they're getting a college education (which would be pretty damn tough.. this is a side comment btw) is silly. Regarding the second part, I was referring to the topic at hand. What that means is, when someone is trying to have a serious conversation and you walk in and go "LOL YOU'RE A RETARD!!!!" is immature.



No doubt there's a clear explanation for these clear examples of what is the spitting image of hypocrisy.:rolleyes:

If it's due to my lack of college education then I truly apologise...

Has nothing to do with your education there I don't think. More to do with you toying with my words and meaning I'd say.

[Swax]

No doubt there's a clear explanation for these clear examples of what is the spitting image of hypocrisy.:rolleyes:

If it's due to my lack of college education then I truly apologise...

Has nothing to do with your education there I don't think. More to do with you toying with my words and meaning I'd say.


Alas, gone are the days when quoting word for word was deemed valid then.

There I was getting confused with the real world again.. :frusty:

[Brandon]

:lol:

You stated nothing but your own personal bull which was set out to tarnish ScTs image. You still have no proof, no facts and no data to back up anything, so why try and convince the FST users that you have? They cant really be that dumb to believe your words are true?

Just give up on you little vendetta to tarnish ScT, its Staff and users. Spend some time working on your own site rather than trying to rip others.

If you continue this little feud you have as much sense as a brick wall. :frusty:

And again... This somehow turns into a personal attack.
I stated facts in what I said btw, go back and read again. I also stated opinions and theories, yes. Am I trying to tarnish sct? No. I clearly said that sct had a ton of potential. Why would I say that? I also remember saying that I never expected people to believe what I said, but it was an important enough topic to me that I wanted to speak out about it.

There is no feud. Read the majority of my posts, and read the majority (all) of your posts as well as some of the other sct posters. Every one of them is a personal attack against me in their full entirety. Even in this post.. I'm not even bashing you :blink:

If I recall correctly (correct me if i'm wrong) the only thing I said that could be considered bashing was saying you were being immature.. I'm pretty sure you're the one causing the feud.






Has nothing to do with your education there I don't think. More to do with you toying with my words and meaning I'd say.


Alas, gone are the days when quoting word for word was deemed valid then.

There I was getting confused with the real world again.. :frusty:

That's like me doing this:

Yea I'm a junk food whore myself also (Yea I think candybars are awesome). Butterfingers suck though because they taste like shit.

And then you saying I said candy bars suck and tasted like shit...


It seems to be a trend for the sct crew to come in here and change a topic that was originally about sct, into a topic that becomes personal and all about me. Why is that? :blink:

[Feeling]

It seems to be a trend for the sct crew to come in here and change a topic that was originally about sct, into a topic that becomes personal and all about me. Why is that? :blink:

... Are you serious? it seems to be a trend for you to come into ScT topics and post your crap. Get your facts straight Mr B... oh hang on, that will never happen :rolleyes:

[Swax]

Yea I'm a junk food whore myself also (Yea I think candybars are awesome). Butterfingers suck though because they taste like shit.

And then you saying I said candy bars suck and tasted like shit...

Well I'm not expecting you to necessarily read imbetween the lines, but maybe just from the beginning of the line to the very end would be helpful.
Bold is often used to highlight certain words or phrases, it isn't an excuse to ignore any words imbetween. (I'm surprised it wasn't in that grammar book you've read explaining 'braces', 'sarcasm' and such)


It seems to be a trend for the sct crew to come in here and change a topic that was originally about sct, into a topic that becomes personal and all about me. Why is that? :blink:

1)The topic is about ScT.
2)ScT Staff/Members responded.
...it's all going well so far, bear with me..(p.s. don't forget to read this even though it's not in bold)...
3)You turn up criticising ScT's rules/ethos/Staff/Feeling/kimii
4)The thread deviates

Again I am no genius, but it is not difficult to see where the change in topic comes from ;)

[Brandon]

It seems to be a trend for the sct crew to come in here and change a topic that was originally about sct, into a topic that becomes personal and all about me. Why is that? :blink:

... Are you serious? it seems to be a trend for you to come into ScT topics and post your crap. Get your facts straight Mr B... oh hang on, that will never happen :rolleyes:

My crap? You mean my opinions? Since when was it a crime or wrong to post one's opinion.. :blink: Seems your facts are a bit jagged.. not mine. Oh look, another sarcastic attack by you. Who would have thought..


Well I'm not expecting you to necessarily read imbetween the lines, but maybe just from the beginning of the line to the very end would be helpful.
Bold is often used to highlight certain words or phrases, it isn't an excuse to ignore any words imbetween. (I'm surprised it wasn't in that grammar book you've read explaining 'braces', 'sarcasm' and such)


My point was that the two weren't together in the same context... Let me break it down for YOU since you obviously aren't able to comprehend.

"(calling me a Retard when I have a college education and you don't is kinda funny though)"
^^ That was a sarcastic comment. As in, you shouldn't call someone a retard when they're the ones in college getting a degree and you aren't. Make sense?


"whereas I'm mature enough not to call you childish names, to me makes me a better person."
^^ this part was saying that I'm mature enough to have a mature conversation and not just come here and try to belittle someone by calling them names and putting nothing into the topic.




It seems to be a trend for the sct crew to come in here and change a topic that was originally about sct, into a topic that becomes personal and all about me. Why is that? :blink:

1)The topic is about ScT.
2)ScT Staff/Members responded.
...it's all going well so far, bear with me..(p.s. don't forget to read this even though it's not in bold)...
3)You turn up criticising ScT's rules/ethos/Staff/Feeling/kimii
4)The thread deviates

Again I am no genius, but it is not difficult to see where the change in topic comes from ;)[/quote]

1) yes it is.
2) they sure did, nobody disagreed with that.
3) there's this thing called constructive criticism. Basically what happens is you point out something unfavorable, and if you're lucky the people who can change it do. There's also this thing called "having an opinion". Don't tell me you never disagree with something and say it. Ever had an exam and say "man this exam sucks.." Same concept. Regarding criticizing people, there was much more criticism against me from those 3 people than me to them combined.
4) you're adding to it.

Stop taking everything I say as an automatic negative comment. I even stated ways I felt sct could better handle things.. Like giving 1 invite to every user when you raised the db. It's more constructive criticism coming from me regarding some actions, not against the site as a whole.
I wouldn't say a site had potential, or say "why not do this instead?", or try to give any other positive insight on something if I hated it.
When you were little, did your parents ever do something and you would tell them you hated them for it, only to realize later on that they only did it b/c they actually cared? I'll be as blunt as I possibly can. I think sct as an enormous amount of potential. I also think sct can do an amazing amount of contribution to the torrent community as a whole, especially after the oink situation. I wouldn't waste my time writing paragraphs about something if I just wanted to bash it. Don't forget Feeling, you and I used to be really close at one time. I was also a staff member there for a bit, so don't think that doesn't mean anything. I don't even think I would admit to being a former staff member there if I hated sct so much. Would be more of an embarrassment to me wouldn't it?

Anyways.. As usual I don't hold things against people. It's rather obvious there are some harsh personal feelings against me based on some misinterpretations of what I say and what was said in my name, so I can pretty much see why you would take everything I say in such a negative aspect without hesitation. No intention from me about straight bashing anything or anyone and I do apologize if that was what you interpreted. It does sadden me though that you feel the need to intentionally bash me.

[selggiwtpc]

Captain Obvious and his team of defenders to the rescue. If there is one thing high school chemistry did teach me, its that when you add more oxygen to a fire, the fire doesn't extinguish itself. To dumbify this, if said flame is contained in presence of no oxygen, said flame burns out. Said idiots need to stop supplying said flame with said oxygen to fuel said path of destruction. If you don't understand this metaphor, you are most likely said idiot keeping this flame alive and burning more said houses down.

I took the time to read this thread, as it seems I am the only one who doesn't bother to consume myself with the wealth of intelligence that seems to be prevalent in the high quality forum content bestowed upon FST. I do believe that if it were possible to combine the total IQ of all the members, we would have what they in the scientific world, call a breakthrough, a number which by even today's advances in science would have a hard time representing. Perhaps I live in the dark, and perhaps this dark isn't really dark at all, only when looking from the outside in. I'm glad I took the objective advice on the tinting though, the initial outlay now when I think about it, has paid for itself many times over.

Anyway thats enough sarcasm for one post, I didn't even think I had that in me, guess I shouldn't have doubted myself.

I'm not going to quote anybody, quoting is lame, and if you don't understand what I am referencing, tough shit, read the thread properly. I'm also not here as a soldier to fight a war that is based on misconception (kinda reminds me of the whole iraq debarcle), since this isn't a discussion on politics that comparison ends just as it began.

Celtic, I respect you're standing up for what you are, and as a friend to Brandon, I respect you standing by his side. You are also a friend to me, and we both know exactly how I stand on these matters, and that I wouldn't be posting here if I thought there were other alternatives.

Brandon, what can I say you're a friend, you are standing up for what you believe in (or at least that was what I believed before I read through every post of this thread), but you need to drop this now. Once perhaps there was a cause for your personal interference in such related matters, but now as it stands, there is no cause, and there is no war to fight. You really need to step back and take a good look at what you are doing here, and really ask yourself if that cause you were once defending (P2L, the cause that I stood strongly against also, and by you on it) is that same cause that has you back here today "defending the public from injustice of p2p tyrants".

I came here to read this with a fresh state of mine, completely non-objective to all parties involved in the discussion, and no chosen side to fight for. And now here I sit writing this, wondering why you are still fighting, wondering what exactly the cause you are claiming to be defending has to do this thread. If I'm missing something, please point it out to me, because in all honesty I've read over each post here three times, from start to finish, and there is no logical cause here worth, that could even come close to being worth as much as the combined hours you have to devoted to actively both defacing and defending.

What you did earlier on for the OP, if I was a soldier I would say it was commendable and my support would be there, but on the other if I was your commanding officer, you would have been immediately reprimanded for your actions while could compromise your team. I'll elaborate on this, just as Josef Stalin said it himself, "One mans death is a tragedy, but the death of a million men a statistic". This simply means while for the lesser picture what you did made a difference, my problem is this. The bigger picture is the one where your vigiliante like behaviour is no longer based on pure good intent.

You have an army of puppets here, ready to flame others at will, ready to fight for whatever you say is worth fighting for, its just a shame they speak like they are packing MP5s, but what they forgot to tell you was, they aren't ready to go down in your name.

On the other hand the real people that will hypothetically take every bullet for you, the ones who time after time defend your erratic actions, speak up on your behalf to defend something you have gone and done not considering the consequences, and I would even go as far as saying are your own personal clean up as well, no questions asked, all fucks up treated with equal importance, have you coming back to a spotless home, like nothing ever happened.

Ask yourself this question Brandon, Which is more important,

a) the respect and love from a bunch of puppets that I know for a fact you wouldn't be able to tell me anything more about than I can clearly see in front of me.


b) the respect and loyalty of your real friends, the ones who have the balls to step up to you and tell you honestly that "you need to stop acting like a damn fool in public places, you need to really drop this bullshit once and for all, its not healthy, and most importantly WHAT SCT DOES WITHIN SCT'S SITE IS NOT YOUR PROBLEM, stop devoting so much damn time you constantly point out at every opportunity to many people you apparently don't have with all your study commitments. From one friend to another, drop this whole ftn is better than sct drama. It's one thing competing for fun for the best pre-times, I'm all for that, just don't make it personal, you have a bad habit of doing that. It's not personal, therefore don't let your emotions dictate your actions.

I don't know if you have noticed, but the reason Feeling isn't defending himself has nothing to do with you're apparent paranoid beliefs he has something to hide. He isn't defending himself to your outrageous claims simply because in this particular scenario, there can be no victory no matter how he plays it out. He doesn't care what the users here think of him and his site, and therefore he has no reason to justify wasting his time defending himself. For this he gets my respect. So if my respect and the respect of the people that are important to me, and therefore should be important to you is worth anything, please take the advice of a friend and follow suit.

I expect you to be offended, even hurt by me stepping out in public and saying this. I've tried my best to stay non-objective. If you feel that in my posting this, you believe I have some kind of unresolved beef or problem with you, don't even bother telling me in private, because I can tell you right now anything more I will have to say on the matter, will cut deep.

I honestly was never going to use this account here to post on this place, but after having people come to me asking "what the f**k is going on with all this FST warring with you and SCT", and me having no prior knowledge of this till this evening past. I then knew, everything i've ever said to you within the confines our friendship, that you have ensured me you understood and that you clearly realised certain mistakes that you have made (you are only human). Now after reading this thread Brandon, the only thing I can say is I'm disappointed in you, first for your public display of such childish behaviour and clear disregard for people you claim of importance to you. Second, in relation to the first, not only do your actions here reflect your ability as a leader, but how they also reflect on your team (your friends). If you find anything I've said here selfish reread and rethink it. I'm not going to stand by and let you make any more of an ass of yourself than you clearly have on this thread.

Back the fuq up, forget about this place, start showing the people you say you care about, that they can depend on you just like you depend on them when shit hits the fan. You've got some damn shit hot people standing behind you, so if not for yourself, but for the FTN you were a founder of, you have devoted so much time to, and still claim that your heart belongs to, don't fuq this one up. Whatever you need say the word and we'll make it so, but you need to say it, and you need to stop leaving a trail of destruction everywhere you go. Running away using your studies as a reason you are not completely there, or you are absent for extended periods, is such a childish act.

We've discussed the shit on your mind, and I gave you word I'd cut you some slack, but look Brandon, if you want to be cut slack, quit this bullshit between you and Feeling, shake hands and accept that you both have different ideals, but you are neither far from different, worlds apart, but you both share similar motivations and both share similar long term goals.

While you're at it, if you care for Kimii as much as you clearly pointed out throughout this thread, and that most importantly I know you do. Be happy for her, and for her decisions, if doing what she is doing makes her happy, respect that decision even if you don't completely agree with it. If you want to be her friend, be a friend don't get in her way, don't get in his way, let them live their lives, and fate decide the rest. You are not fate, therefore you shouldn't be the one deciding what is best for her, trust her judgement. I know I do, and I have my reasons, so if you can't trust her judgement, at least trust mine.

Sincerely,

Part time n00b/Full time ghost.

I'm still a ghost even though I've posted this, and will remain that. Don't ask who I am cause if you don't know, then you clearly don't need to know. So please show me the respect I show you guys, I'm posting here as a friend, not as a anything else. Feeling, Brandon, Kimii, et al I know we have a common understanding how I feel about this place and public exposure in general, so I know there will be no question about paying that due respect to me.

[MusicMan70]

Thought this thread was about ScT...apparently it is about who can make themselves look better on the internet (side comment....hopefully you have heard this already and I am just refreshing your memory...."arguing on the internet is like the special olympics....even if you win...you are still retarded")

[SpeedFreak]

its MESSAGE not MASSAGE

a "massage" is what u get from an asian girl in garden grove



MelvinMeow said he'd give skeetzoo a massage he will stop being a dick and let him back on here

[redcorvette]

okay so now i sleep for 5 hours (after talking to melvinmeow on the phone from 1am-3am...he dooesnt stop) and now i see some ppl from sct actually posting. but why are you guys posting against Brandon. I know he's criticizing sct and you know that too. Instead of brawling him out of the bar, why not show your /manly/ side in the very same bar? Not that i am trying to mock you, but merely asking you to reply to his criticism and not him!

okay so you know he is wrong, but we dont. why dont you say something against it, not him. Well, if you merely made accounts here to watch the fun, we arent hearing your side of the argument, in ANY of these kind of threads. yea you say that Brandon rants in any "sct disabled" thread, tell me on thread where a persons' FTN got disabled for no pointless reason! hell you guys are being like BitMeTV, trying to be ruthless in who you chop the heads off just cuz his invitee's invitees were ratio cheaters. How is the original guy on the top of the invite tree supposed to know that the small fish were going to die??

Well, its kinda like becoming more of a personal attack with every post being made now, by everyone. Its a "cause and effect" kind of a thing. Certain times, i just wish this thread would stop like when that speed-freak (the closet guy) posted in here. But other than that, this seems to be like any other heated up argument i have been in.

Till now, i may not have seen such huge of a personal attack on anyone, and thats why i think the staff havent locked this thread yet.

I completely understand Brandon's point of view. I have sct and i know it has a lot of potential even after being so good at what they do. If u guys wanna be the best, try to change something, tell us that you will change. There is no guidance in your posts Feeling. So i dont know who to side on, yours or Brandons (side on as in being against or for brandon's arguments and not him.) Hell, you could probably asuume that i am an ftn fanboy by the way i present my posts, but do you rather know that i have spent more time on sct than on ftn?? you didnt know taht. well the the question would remain: Why am i standing by brandon's side?? well, its kinda obvious. the other side of the argument is always constant. either they are tired of posting back or they know its a win-win situation for brandon (i am not implying anything by this; its only a chioces i assume to be on their mind).

@Zeus
If you really want something worth your money, go pay for newsgroup servers and you'll get much better speeds than sct or ftn or TL. That is if you really want worth your money. Dont talk about making profit here. we donate cuz we feel like. I, personally have never donated cuz i am not allowed to spend money on these type of things, but if i ever could there would be only one place i would donate (tophos). yes that is the only place where i actually had fun with the staff and everyone!

@Brandon
dude, i know you went through the loss of losing your friend. But never use it as an excuse EVER. unless you want to be bogged by your own excuse. If you do so, the person itself will attack you WITHOUT sympathy as in they would be thinking "thats what he gets for dragging me into this kind of shit" if u get my jist??

Well, i see where you are going with these arguments Brandon, but its not how hard a hit you can take, but how hard before you try to hit back. You see they are trying to make a fool of you by saying you dont have enough education. People who know you well, know how educated you are. dont digress away from the main argument due to these little hilly-billies! I myself am not an expert at english, but i do know that they are derisively (haha i just figured out this word a few minutes ago) attacking you. Dont try to hit back at them...its always how long and how many can you take them before you be like them.

I know it hurts, but its always better for oneself. It used to happen to me until i stopped caring what they said about me and started caring if they said anything bad about my family. That is one thing I WILL NOT TOLERATE no matter who it be (my best friend or my worst enemy). I know i digress with all this talk, but isnt this what we all are seeing here right now?? i mean i see personal attacks flying everywhere and me going under them and trying to help them be "sorted out"

wayyyy off topic: And yea OMG..dont even talk about being funny.:lol: i have been at tophos...ask melvin how badly i get raped there. hes been talking to me for sometime now and for some days....ask him, he'll tell you more about me :D Hey i could merely walk out of this thread without saying a freakin' word, but hey i like to be debating in topics that interest me. If i wanted something worth my money, i would go for newsgroups cuz hey they can fucking max your ISP speeds from 100days (depends which plan) of posting an nzb. And if you guys think i should be respected enough, then bow down NAOU!! and lick my balls when you're down there too! :lol:

[Brandon]

<snip>
I came here to read this with a fresh state of mine, completely non-objective to all parties involved in the discussion, and no chosen side to fight for. And now here I sit writing this, wondering why you are still fighting, wondering what exactly the cause you are claiming to be defending has to do this thread. If I'm missing something, please point it out to me, because in all honesty I've read over each post here three times, from start to finish, and there is no logical cause here worth, that could even come close to being worth as much as the combined hours you have to devoted to actively both defacing and defending.

Well as of now, I'm only defending myself as this has turned into a topic against me which really isn't how it should have gone.



What you did earlier on for the OP, if I was a soldier I would say it was commendable and my support would be there, but on the other if I was your commanding officer, you would have been immediately reprimanded for your actions while could compromise your team. I'll elaborate on this, just as Josef Stalin said it himself, "One mans death is a tragedy, but the death of a million men a statistic". This simply means while for the lesser picture what you did made a difference, my problem is this. The bigger picture is the one where your vigiliante like behaviour is no longer based on pure good intent.

Perhaps you have a point. But unfortunately my kindness, as well as my faith tends to get the best of me sometimes. Some people use their position in this world to benefit themselves. Some use it to help others. It's just who I am.



You have an army of puppets here, ready to flame others at will, ready to fight for whatever you say is worth fighting for, its just a shame they speak like they are packing MP5s, but what they forgot to tell you was, they aren't ready to go down in your name.

Sad thing is, this has turned into a fight that goes against what the original battle consisted of, if there even was a battle.



Ask yourself this question Brandon, Which is more important,

a) the respect and love from a bunch of puppets that I know for a fact you wouldn't be able to tell me anything more about than I can clearly see in front of me.


b) the respect and loyalty of your real friends, the ones who have the balls to step up to you and tell you honestly that "you need to stop acting like a damn fool in public places, you need to really drop this bullshit once and for all, its not healthy, and most importantly WHAT SCT DOES WITHIN SCT'S SITE IS NOT YOUR PROBLEM, stop devoting so much damn time you constantly point out at every opportunity to many people you apparently don't have with all your study commitments. From one friend to another, drop this whole ftn is better than sct drama. It's one thing competing for fun for the best pre-times, I'm all for that, just don't make it personal, you have a bad habit of doing that. It's not personal, therefore don't let your emotions dictate your actions.

2. I will say again that I never said FTN was better.



I don't know if you have noticed, but the reason Feeling isn't defending himself has nothing to do with you're apparent paranoid beliefs he has something to hide. He isn't defending himself to your outrageous claims simply because in this particular scenario, there can be no victory no matter how he plays it out. He doesn't care what the users here think of him and his site, and therefore he has no reason to justify wasting his time defending himself. For this he gets my respect. So if my respect and the respect of the people that are important to me, and therefore should be important to you is worth anything, please take the advice of a friend and follow suit.

I never said he had anything to hide really.. I only stated what was in clear view to me. My claims really aren't that outrageous btw. I wasn't the one saying they were buying Ferarri's or such like some claimed I did.



I expect you to be offended, even hurt by me stepping out in public and saying this. I've tried my best to stay non-objective. If you feel that in my posting this, you believe I have some kind of unresolved beef or problem with you, don't even bother telling me in private, because I can tell you right now anything more I will have to say on the matter, will cut deep.

Offended.. maybe a bit. This would have been better suited in PM, but again that's just my opinion. I'm not hurt though, I find this whole argument silly myself. It was blown way out of context from my original intent.



I honestly was never going to use this account here to post on this place, but after having people come to me asking "what the f**k is going on with all this FST warring with you and SCT", and me having no prior knowledge of this till this evening past. I then knew, everything i've ever said to you within the confines our friendship, that you have ensured me you understood and that you clearly realised certain mistakes that you have made (you are only human). Now after reading this thread Brandon, the only thing I can say is I'm disappointed in you, first for your public display of such childish behaviour and clear disregard for people you claim of importance to you. Second, in relation to the first, not only do your actions here reflect your ability as a leader, but how they also reflect on your team (your friends). If you find anything I've said here selfish reread and rethink it. I'm not going to stand by and let you make any more of an ass of yourself than you clearly have on this thread.

Here is where you lost my respect (I'm only being honest with you b/c you're a friend). I'm not sure if you're only including me in that paragraph because you care about me, or what.. But I can guarantee I wasn't the one being overly childish.
You're correct about my actions reflecting me as a leader. As you'll notice, I'm a fighter. I won't give up until I have no more strength in my body left to move. I've never been able to quit anything that I've set my mind on. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe that's a key quality in a leader.



Back the fuq up, forget about this place, start showing the people you say you care about, that they can depend on you just like you depend on them when shit hits the fan. You've got some damn shit hot people standing behind you, so if not for yourself, but for the FTN you were a founder of, you have devoted so much time to, and still claim that your heart belongs to, don't fuq this one up. Whatever you need say the word and we'll make it so, but you need to say it, and you need to stop leaving a trail of destruction everywhere you go. Running away using your studies as a reason you are not completely there, or you are absent for extended periods, is such a childish act.


Whoa.. Don't even begin to tell me that putting my studies before FTN is wrong because you'll be way out of line on that one. My future comes before anything. I'll stand by FTN for as long as I can, even when it involves staying up pretty late or even full nights because I don't have enough time in the day to accomplish both. You can ask c0mrade all about it, it's usually the only time we're both around at the same time.



We've discussed the shit on your mind, and I gave you word I'd cut you some slack, but look Brandon, if you want to be cut slack, quit this bullshit between you and Feeling, shake hands and accept that you both have different ideals, but you are neither far from different, worlds apart, but you both share similar motivations and both share similar long term goals.

You're able to write such an informative post, yet you fail to see which of the two of us needs to be the one extending the hand. I've even apologized for any misunderstandings against my intentions.. All I've seen from the other person is attacks.



While you're at it, if you care for Kimii as much as you clearly pointed out throughout this thread, and that most importantly I know you do. Be happy for her, and for her decisions, if doing what she is doing makes her happy, respect that decision even if you don't completely agree with it. If you want to be her friend, be a friend don't get in her way, don't get in his way, let them live their lives, and fate decide the rest. You are not fate, therefore you shouldn't be the one deciding what is best for her, trust her judgement. I know I do, and I have my reasons, so if you can't trust her judgement, at least trust mine.

I am happy for her. You wouldn't know this, but the day I told her I didn't want to talk to her again I sent her a text msg saying I was glad she was happy and that I forgave her for treating me the way she did. I also sent her a PM on FTN before that saying I hoped things worked out for her and wished her luck.
Don't get me wrong, I was all for being her friend. But Feeling decided to give her the belief that I lied about certain things without profo in order to turn her against me (i dont see what other reason he could have) so don't always assume you know everything about the situation. Only reason I no longer wanted to be kimii's friend was because she lied in plain sight to me. The same thing I was accused of.

[fazzy07]

I hope that the outcome of all this is both parties shake hands
And ScT removes the ratios :)

Brandon I will hire you for my dads law firm any day.

[redcorvette]

I hope that the outcome of all this is both parties shake hands
And ScT removes the ratios :)

Brandon I will hire you for my dads law firm any day.

plz join the argument. You should probably see taht he is only criticizing and not WARRING against sct.

well, it is kinda obvious in the early posts of brandon, but now taht he is being personally attacked, he either has no choice or he is not a man who can take too many hits! :P

//PS: Brandon, ask MM how many times i get punked >< and how many times i have retaliated!

[piratex]

lol fazzy ... will be cool if that happens :P

[Vagaz]

The reputation of ScT lays on the hands of the almighty FST users! How did we not see this coming! I'm gonna ask if we could allow invite trading, A.S.A.P

[Brandon]

and now i see some ppl from sct actually posting. but why are you guys posting against Brandon. I know he's criticizing sct and you know that too. Instead of brawling him out of the bar, why not show your /manly/ side in the very same bar? Not that i am trying to mock you, but merely asking you to reply to his criticism and not him!

That was partly my original intent.. I never even got a response to the suggestions/ideas I posted. Such as giving a free invite to every user.. :ermm: It's almost as if everything good I say gets overlooked, yet anything I say to criticize gets flagged in red.



okay so you know he is wrong, but we dont. why dont you say something against it, not him. Well, if you merely made accounts here to watch the fun, we arent hearing your side of the argument, in ANY of these kind of threads. yea you say that Brandon rants in any "sct disabled" thread, tell me on thread where a persons' FTN got disabled for no pointless reason! hell you guys are being like BitMeTV, trying to be ruthless in who you chop the heads off just cuz his invitee's invitees were ratio cheaters. How is the original guy on the top of the invite tree supposed to know that the small fish were going to die??

I do agree with your point on that. Personally I think it is a bit harsh and unfair, but in their defense they can say they're just being cautious. (that's right sct, i'm defending you because I hate you.) (that was sarcasm btw.. about hating u..).



I completely understand Brandon's point of view. I have sct and i know it has a lot of potential even after being so good at what they do. If u guys wanna be the best, try to change something, tell us that you will change. There is no guidance in your posts Feeling. So i dont know who to side on, yours or Brandons (side on as in being against or for brandon's arguments and not him.) Hell, you could probably asuume that i am an ftn fanboy by the way i present my posts, but do you rather know that i have spent more time on sct than on ftn?? you didnt know taht. well the the question would remain: Why am i standing by brandon's side?? well, its kinda obvious. the other side of the argument is always constant. either they are tired of posting back or they know its a win-win situation for brandon (i am not implying anything by this; its only a chioces i assume to be on their mind).

I've made my side pretty apparent. I even offered my own ideas and suggestions on how to better the situation. If you think about it, me saying "hey guys, give a free invite to everyone.. that'll at least throw off the idea that you're trying to make money :P" is actually helping you. Perhaps that's why I find it so difficult to understand why I continue to be tagged as an sct hater when I've displayed multiple examples proving that wrong.



@Brandon
dude, i know you went through the loss of losing your friend. But never use it as an excuse EVER. unless you want to be bogged by your own excuse. If you do so, the person itself will attack you WITHOUT sympathy as in they would be thinking "thats what he gets for dragging me into this kind of shit" if u get my jist??

Losing a friend wasn't the tough part. It was having a friend betray me on multiple levels because of someone "claiming" (there was no proof) I was a liar over something that made complete sense that it was true. It made it even worse when that person could believe that claim without any doubt of the claim even being false. I've lost many friends over the years, it's common as people move away, etc.



Well, i see where you are going with these arguments Brandon, but its not how hard a hit you can take, but how hard before you try to hit back. You see they are trying to make a fool of you by saying you dont have enough education. People who know you well, know how educated you are. dont digress away from the main argument due to these little hilly-billies! I myself am not an expert at english, but i do know that they are derisively (haha i just figured out this word a few minutes ago) attacking you. Dont try to hit back at them...its always how long and how many can you take them before you be like them.

Agreed.



I know it hurts, but its always better for oneself. It used to happen to me until i stopped caring what they said about me and started caring if they said anything bad about my family. That is one thing I WILL NOT TOLERATE no matter who it be (my best friend or my worst enemy). I know i digress with all this talk, but isnt this what we all are seeing here right now?? i mean i see personal attacks flying everywhere and me going under them and trying to help them be "sorted out"

You have to understand though. My image is very important to me because FTN reflects on it. As a leader, I have to defend myself in order to defend those who look up to me. I agree that it's wrong to fight with violence, but it's cowardly to walk away without a fight at all. I won't attack others without good reason, but I will defend myself and what I stand for at all costs.

I have a lot of respect for you redcorvette. Not because you stand by me when others don't, but because you don't automatically make assumptions or stand by something not because you believe in it, but because you it's what your friends are doing.

I'm not going to make any more posts in here which could be used to fuel the fire some of you wish to keep going. Talk all the trash you want if that's what really makes you satisfied. I said my peace, even clarified some misinterpretations that were taken from my posts. As stated, as well as discussed with Kavselj in private, my intentions might not always be what they seem. Don't look past the other obvious pieces in the puzzle. Re-read this thread again and you'll notice that I said good things about sct more than once. So to claim that I hate it based on posts you saw from a pathetic person who used my name against me when I've made that situation very clear, as well as totally contradicted your assumptions and accusations by openly stating that I don't hate sct as well as saying positive things about it(as well as things I don't agree with). Trust me. If I hate something, I'll just say I hate it.. Do I really look like the person to hide or deny what I feel about something..

@vagaz: You're absolutely right, it doesn't. It wouldn't be appropriate to talk about the topic anywhere else (obviously) so it's stupid to attack someone for expressing their views about it here.

[Vagaz]

You're more than welcome to come discuss this on the sct forums. Just get the fuck off this newbass mother fucking public forum you dumb shit.

Jesus.

[celtic]

You're more than welcome to come discuss this on the sct forums. Just get the fuck off this newbass mother fucking public tracker you dumb shit.

Jesus.


What public tracker ? You mean public forum ? a forum that isnt ruled by nazis ?

yeah thought so...

[seanbee]

I couldn't even read this thread through. Some maturity really needs to be exercised. Most times I am on FST I feel I am watching a soap opera

[selggiwtpc]

Ok.

1. You don't need to defend yourself here, the puppets here are just puppets, what they think of you doesn't matter, get that into your head, the only people you need to justify and defend yourself to are your friends, the people who clearly want an end to this bs.

2. Kindness or not, you did a good thing, know in your heart you did. Feeling doesn't give anything out here because he doesn't want to / need to / have to. Here in lies no obligation, food for thought.

3. This turned into a fight because you made an SCT problem a Brandon problem, now I jumped in because im making a Brandon making an SCT problem my problem. Lets walk away with our dignity, so what we lost a battle, our lives will still go on, we've got more important things to attend to.

4. Stop trying to be neutral, FTN is better in both mine and your eyes, why do you think we both put so much of the time we don't have into it. Neither of us have a stake in SCT, so it really has no relevance which site we feel is better. I respect the SCT staff for doing what they do, at least for what i value of importance in their work.

5. If he bought a ferrari with the money from there, I'd fly to his country and take him out for a beer.

6. I can't help the offense, sure it better suited pm, but I felt I had no choice but to make a statement as a friend. Ok so you clearly see that this thread is going nowhere, what does that tell you about the end result?

7. I'll say something i've said to you before again, you talk about losing respect for me, fine, I don't need your respect if its something you can so easily throw around like a tennis ball. But that doesn't change the fact I still respect you, why because no matter how much sometimes I repeat myself to you and it still doesn't click, and you frustrate me with the things you do. Its part of friendship, we don't have to see everything eye to eye, and we never will, you have your shortcomings, i mine. Its obvious you don't really understand what respect is, besides a word you can find in the dictionary between the letters Q and S. We can discuss this in private, for the sake of this discussion, I don't care whether you do or you don't, the only thing that matters is this shit must stop. A good leader knows when a battle is lost, he will retreat his army, rest and use his experience to better his opponent. This is a lost battle, stop trying to win it, you are wasting your time, and sticking it through doesn't make u the bigger man, or the stronger man, it just makes u foolish and careless.


8. Obviously we both understand your future comes first, but my point is and I clearly expressed it, manage your time better. You don't need to be here defending FTN and P2P, we don't need anybody to defend us, especially to these puppets. What they think and their opinions of us, are meaningless. Say what you will, but you know deep down I speak the truth.


9. You fail to see I don't care which of the two you should be extending which hand. What do expect from them, you hijack a thread about SCT, lay claims against the site and their staff, and then say "HUH I R NOT TEH BAD GUY". You can apologize as many times as you like, it doesn't change the fact you did it. They are defending themselves, just like you clearly are, the problem here I see is, you fail to understand that you can't go around doing what ever the hell you please, and then thinking later "oh shit maybe that was wrong maybe I shouldnt have said it or done it". Can you not clearly see that this type of behaviour can't be solved with "Im Sorry Im an Ass". Sure if you did it once, I'm sure you would find everybody understanding about it. You are a repeat offender, you do this all the time, your friends tolerate it because they are friends. The SCT guys don't have to accept any apologies from your side, the point is you attacked them in a thread addressing them, you were wrong, saying you're sorry then doing the same thing again shows the insincerity of your apology. 19 Pages and still going, still quoting, drop this, drop the whole FST hero bit, FST aren't your people. You know where your home is, and your family is, so get the hell back there.


10. Yeah yeah, but you still feel you need to write a paragraph about it, so you obviously read what it wrote, felt you needed to explain to everybody how it all went down. It doesn't matter how it went down, and it doesn't matter who you think is right and wrong. There is only thing here left to say. Until you can turn back time, self reassurance and finger pointing isnt going to CHANGE the fact its over. You aren't happy for either of them, do you understand why? Because even after saying what I said, you still feel the need to explain why you are the victim, and how Feeling and Kim were actually in cahoots with each other, and they have been conspiring against you all along, just to break your heart. If they can move on, so can you. Let go of whatever it is you're grasping at. If you want to be that friend you claim to be, stop injecting yourself into their affairs. Right or wrong? It's not for you to decide. Which side Kim should take? Again thats her choice. You only have once choice to make in this better, and thats to do the right thing. Stop complicating it for yourself.

[Vagaz]

Oh shit, I didn't consentrate fully to this full-of-shit thread and typed a word I wasn't supposed to! :-O

Oh, please forgive me you mighty torrent god?

[celtic]

Oh shit, I didn't consentrate fully to shit full-of-shit thread and typed a word I wasn't supposed to! :-O

Oh, please forgive me you mighty torrent god?

Sorry i didnt CONCENTRATE either.

And you are forgiven cockwad :)

[Vagaz]

yeah, concentrate, that's what I meant.

I thank you for your kindness.

[redcorvette]

Vagaz, why dont you add to the argument rather than just sitting ducks?? its no fun hearing only one side of the argument.

this is after all, only an argument, only a debate and i take it as nothing more unless you start attacking me personally...then i back up and start my turbo chargers!!

[swi7ch]

Yesterday night I was standing in line at the movie theater waiting to buy tickets, and I noticed that the girl in front of me was wearing really tight jeans. Okay it wasn't really a girl it was a guy but damn did his ass look awesome in those jeans! I couldn't help myself and I reached into my back pocket to feel my own ass imagining it was his, I tried to play it off like I was trying to get something out of my pocket but I don't think the girl standing next to me bought it because the girl standing next to me was my girlfriend and she could tell. Then it was our turn to buy tickets and I noticed that she was gazing into my eyes and drooling. I think when I was feeling my own ass it really turned her on... but it might also have been because she has down syndrome.

[celtic]

Yesterday night I was standing in line at the movie theater waiting to buy tickets, and I noticed that the girl in front of me was wearing really tight jeans. Okay it wasn't really a girl it was a guy but damn did his ass look awesome in those jeans! I couldn't help myself and I reached into my back pocket to feel my own ass imagining it was his, I tried to play it off like I was trying to get something out of my pocket but I don't think the girl standing next to me bought it because the girl standing next to me was my girlfriend and she could tell. Then it was our turn to buy tickets and I noticed that she was gazing into my eyes and drooling. I think when I was feeling my own ass it really turned her on... but it might also have been because she has down syndrome.

You just gave me a hard on :)

[JA]

You're more than welcome to come discuss this on the sct forums. Just get the fuck off this newbass mother fucking public forum you dumb shit.

Jesus.
We both know thats a load of bullshit, the mods prawl those forums like fuckin' cawks. Everything relevant but slightly true/disturbing will be edited or even deleted. Might want to use the CT merger thread as an example ;)...

[Adam1990]

Ill throw my hat in to the ring here. I think what it comes down to is that FTN is more about befriending and helping the average user, and ScT is run more like a business. I never see ScT admins around here helping people with their problems, or granting an invite to a deserving user. I see Brandon or Celtic all the time around here helping an FTN user with whatever their problem is, or giving out invites to people who deserve it. I like how ScT keeps trying to say if you donate we reward you with an invite, thats not a reward thats a sale. A reward would be giving an invite for keeping a good ratio, reaching an upload amount, or generally being a strong part of the community. Right now Sct has made over 4000 Euro's this month while their goal is 1500. There has to be THOUSANDS of euros in their "rainy day account", I find it impossible to believe that money is not being used for personal gain. I think it is all summed up in Feelings signature on Sct.
http://i10.tinypic.com/86yzluc.jpg

[sperm]

Yesterday night I was standing in line at the movie theater waiting to buy tickets, and I noticed that the girl in front of me was wearing really tight jeans. Okay it wasn't really a girl it was a guy but damn did his ass look awesome in those jeans! I couldn't help myself and I reached into my back pocket to feel my own ass imagining it was his, I tried to play it off like I was trying to get something out of my pocket but I don't think the girl standing next to me bought it because the girl standing next to me was my girlfriend and she could tell. Then it was our turn to buy tickets and I noticed that she was gazing into my eyes and drooling. I think when I was feeling my own ass it really turned her on... but it might also have been because she has down syndrome.

You just gave me a hard on :)


yeah, but this was the guy / girl in the queue :sick:

http://img86.imageshack.us/img86/6817/dagirl2og7.jpg

[Vagaz]

He's hot<3

[swi7ch]

Yeah, so last night I hopped in one of my amazingly pimp rides which is a Ferrari or something I don't know because I own so many goddamn cars LOL and said goodnight to my supermodel wife just after she gave me 12 blowjobs for 2 hours while I drank Chivas and watched porn and then I drove to a club where I picked up three chicks and drove them over to meet my girlfriend on the side who is also a supermodel btw and we all had amazingly erotic sex for 12 hours and I tapped one of the chick's asses who was also a supermodel and then busted on her back so hard that she had to go to the hospital because I bruised her spine!

Then I took some drugs and drove another car... it's like a Mitsubishi Eclipse special edition TYPE R or something, beats me who cares when you own like 20 cars and three mansions and then I went to a stockholders meeting for Microsoft and Dupont and ExxonMobil and made lots of important decisions and then I took a limo with three hookers in it that the government paid for and they gave me blowjobs while I fingered their pussies and snorted coke off of their tits. And then I brought them home where my supermodel wife had sex with all of the hookers and I videotaped it and then we all did some online shopping and I bought a few more cars and a hot tub and we adopted some kids from the Tsunami because it is important to spread the love and be socially aware of things going on in the world, okay don't you think so?

So then I drove the hookers home and they said that they had so much fun that they were not going to even charge the government and one of them said that I had the biggest cock she had ever seen and everyone else agreed, LOL! So then I went and played some video games with my girlfriend and some of her supermodel friends and they invited some rock stars over and we all partied and played games and then all of the supermodels piled on top of me and we had incredibly erotic sex in one of my mansions and four of my other cars, all of which cost over $100,000 each. And also I totally owned at the video games.

Then after that we went out for a restaurant and it was so good that I bought the restaurant and the head chef, who is also a supermodel, came out and gave me a blow job while she made unagi rolls which are my favorite. Then my wife and my girlfriend had lesbian sex in the restaurant and everyone had an orgy and everyone in the whole restaurant had a vote and I won "Largest Wang" as well as "Best Eyes" and "Most Semen." Then I drove home in 12 different cars and left the ones without gas on the side of the road for homeless people to take because it is important to give back to the community, and then I went to bed.

And that was the best day of my life, for real.

[Green Goblin]

it's believable, the super models never ate a thing.:)

[LubTheStaringCat]

The point of this thread was about someone's account getting disabled. And trying to get It back.

Can I ask what the purpose of this thread Is now, don't you think everything has been said.
This can continue, Just like Eastenders & Coronation Street, but.

It's just turned into nothing more than a slagging match.

SCT & FTN are both great trackers no one can deny this.
There Is a lot of great trackers out there.

There a lot of people just sitting back enjoying this, and lot of people commenting adding fuel to the fire.
Don't you think enough is enough.

All that has been said has been said.

All the Admin's & Mods of the trackers that have commented here you are meant to be in a position of responsibility, respect trusted people of your respected Trackers.

How do expect people to take you serious when you keep going on like a torn melodyne
slagging each other off.

O I know someone will come back and responded to this, I couldn't care less if you find this offensive
it's meant to be.

Can one of the mods please close this thread, this thread isn't going any where

[Brandon]

Ok.
10. Yeah yeah, but you still feel you need to write a paragraph about it, so you obviously read what it wrote, felt you needed to explain to everybody how it all went down. It doesn't matter how it went down, and it doesn't matter who you think is right and wrong. There is only thing here left to say. Until you can turn back time, self reassurance and finger pointing isnt going to CHANGE the fact its over. You aren't happy for either of them, do you understand why? Because even after saying what I said, you still feel the need to explain why you are the victim, and how Feeling and Kim were actually in cahoots with each other, and they have been conspiring against you all along, just to break your heart. If they can move on, so can you. Let go of whatever it is you're grasping at. If you want to be that friend you claim to be, stop injecting yourself into their affairs. Right or wrong? It's not for you to decide. Which side Kim should take? Again thats her choice. You only have once choice to make in this better, and thats to do the right thing. Stop complicating it for yourself.

hm. Again you don't know all the facts. I know kimii and Feeling talk crap about me, I really don't about that. Secondly my heart wasn't broken. Thirdly, I have moved on.. that was actually very easy. Fourthly, I'm not injecting myself in anything they do, I could really care less. I also don't really care what side she picks. Now why are you yet again bringing her and me and him into this conversation? She made her bed she can lay in it.. There's no reason to continue talking about her and I in the same paragraph let alone sentence. My view towards both of them is completely neutral at this point. I neither like, nor hate. Ok?


Yeah, so last night I hopped in one of my amazingly pimp rides which is a Ferrari or something I don't know because I own so many goddamn cars LOL and said goodnight to my supermodel wife just after she gave me 12 blowjobs for 2 hours while I drank Chivas and watched porn and then I drove to a club where I picked up three chicks and drove them over to meet my girlfriend on the side who is also a supermodel btw and we all had amazingly erotic sex for 12 hours and I tapped one of the chick's asses who was also a supermodel and then busted on her back so hard that she had to go to the hospital because I bruised her spine!

Then I took some drugs and drove another car... it's like a Mitsubishi Eclipse special edition TYPE R or something, beats me who cares when you own like 20 cars and three mansions and then I went to a stockholders meeting for Microsoft and Dupont and ExxonMobil and made lots of important decisions and then I took a limo with three hookers in it that the government paid for and they gave me blowjobs while I fingered their pussies and snorted coke off of their tits. And then I brought them home where my supermodel wife had sex with all of the hookers and I videotaped it and then we all did some online shopping and I bought a few more cars and a hot tub and we adopted some kids from the Tsunami because it is important to spread the love and be socially aware of things going on in the world, okay don't you think so?

So then I drove the hookers home and they said that they had so much fun that they were not going to even charge the government and one of them said that I had the biggest cock she had ever seen and everyone else agreed, LOL! So then I went and played some video games with my girlfriend and some of her supermodel friends and they invited some rock stars over and we all partied and played games and then all of the supermodels piled on top of me and we had incredibly erotic sex in one of my mansions and four of my other cars, all of which cost over $100,000 each. And also I totally owned at the video games.

Then after that we went out for a restaurant and it was so good that I bought the restaurant and the head chef, who is also a supermodel, came out and gave me a blow job while she made unagi rolls which are my favorite. Then my wife and my girlfriend had lesbian sex in the restaurant and everyone had an orgy and everyone in the whole restaurant had a vote and I won "Largest Wang" as well as "Best Eyes" and "Most Semen." Then I drove home in 12 different cars and left the ones without gas on the side of the road for homeless people to take because it is important to give back to the community, and then I went to bed.

And that was the best day of my life, for real.

How the hell did you get that? :blink: That was from years ago.. Day In The Life Of Valleyman.doc Talk about bringing back memories. If you know where I can find him send me a pm b/c he and I used to talk quite a bit :D

[seanbee]

Yeah, so last night I hopped in one of my amazingly pimp rides which is a Ferrari or something I don't know because I own so many goddamn cars LOL and said goodnight to my supermodel wife just after she gave me 12 blowjobs for 2 hours while I drank Chivas and watched porn and then I drove to a club where I picked up three chicks and drove them over to meet my girlfriend on the side who is also a supermodel btw and we all had amazingly erotic sex for 12 hours and I tapped one of the chick's asses who was also a supermodel and then busted on her back so hard that she had to go to the hospital because I bruised her spine!

Then I took some drugs and drove another car... it's like a Mitsubishi Eclipse special edition TYPE R or something, beats me who cares when you own like 20 cars and three mansions and then I went to a stockholders meeting for Microsoft and Dupont and ExxonMobil and made lots of important decisions and then I took a limo with three hookers in it that the government paid for and they gave me blowjobs while I fingered their pussies and snorted coke off of their tits. And then I brought them home where my supermodel wife had sex with all of the hookers and I videotaped it and then we all did some online shopping and I bought a few more cars and a hot tub and we adopted some kids from the Tsunami because it is important to spread the love and be socially aware of things going on in the world, okay don't you think so?

So then I drove the hookers home and they said that they had so much fun that they were not going to even charge the government and one of them said that I had the biggest cock she had ever seen and everyone else agreed, LOL! So then I went and played some video games with my girlfriend and some of her supermodel friends and they invited some rock stars over and we all partied and played games and then all of the supermodels piled on top of me and we had incredibly erotic sex in one of my mansions and four of my other cars, all of which cost over $100,000 each. And also I totally owned at the video games.

Then after that we went out for a restaurant and it was so good that I bought the restaurant and the head chef, who is also a supermodel, came out and gave me a blow job while she made unagi rolls which are my favorite. Then my wife and my girlfriend had lesbian sex in the restaurant and everyone had an orgy and everyone in the whole restaurant had a vote and I won "Largest Wang" as well as "Best Eyes" and "Most Semen." Then I drove home in 12 different cars and left the ones without gas on the side of the road for homeless people to take because it is important to give back to the community, and then I went to bed.

And that was the best day of my life, for real.

This is the funniest shit I have read in my life. This had me rolling on the floor dying with laughter and I am at fucking work.

If i lose my work I am coming to get you swi7ch

[Polarbear]

....a forum that isnt ruled by nazis ?


godwin's law.

http://www.faqs.org/faqs/usenet/legends/godwin/

[j0hn]

epic thread, i lol'd
pointless thread though.
its been said a few times, dont air ur dirty laundry in public.

on topic: seems only fair to me that the OP deserved to have his/her acc deleted after it being made deceptively.

off topic again: if i thought for a second sct were taking donation money and using it for personal gain i wouldnt have just donated myself. they have posted screenshots of recent bills and of their paypal account a number of times recently. name me another site whos done the same? and yea the rainy day fund is getting high, and donations are coming in way too much. what do u want them to do? stop taking donations? its better to plan for the future in my opinion, and if that means having a few months payment in the kitty, thats always better than struggling every month to make ur target.

and not everyone who donates to sct does so for invites, or for upload credit. the system allows u to, like i did, receive nothing in return for ur "donation". theres alot of mention about sct spots being "products" and how donators are "customers", etc etc.
well why did they give me invites for free?

[Zeus]

@Zeus
If you really want something worth your money, go pay for newsgroup servers and you'll get much better speeds than sct or ftn or TL. That is if you really want worth your money. Dont talk about making profit here. we donate cuz we feel like. I, personally have never donated cuz i am not allowed to spend money on these type of things, but if i ever could there would be only one place i would donate (tophos). yes that is the only place where i actually had fun with the staff and everyone!

Which of my comments is this directed at, because as far as I can see it doesnt relate to any of them. I've never donated to any torrent site and I never will. If I ever wanted to pay money to download stuff then I would go to newsgroups. I dont really see what that has to do with this thread though.

You might say you donate because you feel like it (which is an odd thing to say if you've never donated). Not everyone does though. People often donate in order that they may leech. Again, what does that have to do with any of the points I've made? Did you actually read my posts?

[selggiwtpc]

ok guys cool it, if the top dogs can put a peaceful end to it, pay your respects and do the same thing. end of conversation / thread / discusson. we at peace.

[kimii]

We were in financial need and a friend of mine offered to help, yes. I told him that I would be a lot more lenient towards him due to him helping us out. I'm not ashamed of that. A friend? You didn't even know the guy.... if he was a so called friend... would he need to msg staff to point out he made a donation? He would even title the donation msg with your name in it just so YOU can make sure he's ok. Quit making up BS. If you really want me to get the logs... I will damn sure prove it. So I guess all your fanboys from FST is ignoring the fact that you except funds monthly to assure a account isn't disabled. You're being very hypocritical.

[Roark]

It's obvious there is no proof that will satisfy ScT's detractors that the site is not skimming money so why bother.

I want to make sure this point is made, so I'll keep this post short: ScT handed out 2 free invites to almost every single member after P2L was introduced and just after the db was increased from 12k to 15k. This misconception about them never giving out free invites is just the tail end of a long line of bullshit by Brandon.

[Wizzcameron]

I think it's time for me to come into this thread... TBH I think Brandon’s just jealous because feeling can get pussy and he can't. End of story :)

[redcorvette]

@Zeus
http://filesharingtalk.com/vb3/p-sct-disabled-help-post2420068/postcount144

The middle answer...you said that the site should be making profit (as long as you can use it for free). What if i and all the other users thought of it the same way...dont think of only yourself...that would be called selfish. And then if everyone thought it your way...there wouldnt be any sites/trackers to leech from and only service available would be through paid. Tracckers arent running a business here. If they are, they might as well sell original software, why use warez?? And if no one joins their site, they should shut it down...there are others that dont intend the same thing as making a profit or some other motto on the same idea...which is fucking BAD!

I am sorry, i pretty much misread your post or i cant find it anymore :/

[selggiwtpc]

must I shout, kimii, cameron, etc, this thread is over. continuing it, is just immature. there is nothing to win here, so there is nothing to fight over. who cares what each of us thinks, we are all entitled to opinions, those opinions aren't fact and unless they are, we are really only picking at straws.

[Brandon]

We were in financial need and a friend of mine offered to help, yes. I told him that I would be a lot more lenient towards him due to him helping us out. I'm not ashamed of that. A friend? You didn't even know the guy.... if he was a so called friend... would he need to msg staff to point out he made a donation? He would even title the donation msg with your name in it just so YOU can make sure he's ok. Quit making up BS. If you really want me to get the logs... I will damn sure prove it. So I guess all your fanboys from FST is ignoring the fact that you except funds monthly to assure a account isn't disabled. You're being very hypocritical.

Wow. I'm not even going to argue with you kimii, b/c quite frankly, you're not worth my time. Only thing you've proven here is that you're a typical girl in a typical situation. When it comes to the significant other, your mind only thinks in one way.


It's obvious there is no proof that will satisfy ScT's detractors that the site is not skimming money so why bother.

I want to make sure this point is made, so I'll keep this post short: ScT handed out 2 free invites to almost every single member after P2L was introduced and just after the db was increased from 12k to 15k. This misconception about them never giving out free invites is just the tail end of a long line of bullshit by Brandon.

Not going to argue with you either. :)


I think it's time for me to come into this thread... TBH I think Brandon’s just jealous because feeling can get pussy and he can't. End of story :)

You're right, I'm just dying to get my hands on some e-pussy.
TBH, I don't think anyone can proudly say they have an internet girlfriend that lives in another country that they met on a torrent site. End of story.
now grow up.

[redcorvette]

we are really only picking at straws.

so the one with the longest straw wins?!!?

Brandon..no point in replying anymore...this topic has digressed way off the first argument, the seond, the third..and its digressing every second...

[Brandon]

we are really only picking at straws.

so the one with the longest straw wins?!!?

Brandon..no point in replying anymore...this topic has digressed way off the first argument, the seond, the third..and its digressing every second...

Agreed. As stated I've already made my peace on the situation.
It's rather obvious on certain peoples intentions in this thread, and I'm not going to take the bait. I'm just glad the original poster is happy now.

[redcorvette]

Oh and Brandon check yer PM...let me know if its possible!

[Feeling]

Ill be glad when this thread is locked, then maybe just maybe my tummy will have a chance to recover from the laughing at the bullcrap some people have posted :lol:

[redcorvette]

Ill be glad when this thread is locked, then maybe just maybe my tummy will have a chance to recover from the laughing at the bullcrap some people have posted :lol:

if you want the thread locked...PM the OP...its pretty easy you know...:pinch:

[Roark]

Ill be glad when this thread is locked, then maybe just maybe my tummy will have a chance to recover from the laughing at the bullcrap some people have posted :lol:

if you want the thread locked...PM the OP...its pretty easy you know...:pinch:

OP can't close the thread in this section.

[redcorvette]

^ shit..i didnt know that..sorry!

[pandabear]

e-boyfriend, lul, nice one.

[DanielleD87]

relax brandon. you're a really wonderful and outgoing person. this comes from not only a user of your site but a fan as well. you interact with others, help out, socialize, and have fun. other staff elsewhere is almost like trolls. they rarely talk and when they do it is to give someone a warning or ban someone.

you're a very down to earth and nice guy. i don't like to see people like you hurt and stressed out over stuff like this. you invited this orka guy who I never would have. i'm sure he is beyond thankful for that. you helped out. no need to continue ranting and raving about people giving you crap or even to continue reading this thread. the original subject has come and past. why not just let your past be, not worry about it, and know you have more people that look up to you in the bt community then any other person?

seriously, just take a nice long breath and relax. :)


that and i'd message you this on ftn, but there is no need for someone like me to spam your inbox with pointless chatter, when at least here you are looking on your free time.

[Swax]

Hah, loving the "You shouldn't reply anymore"..."Agreed but I'm replying right now" responses. :happy:

/me waits for at least 20 more responses involving anything varying from immaturity, girlfriends, country of origin, seedbox access, e-penis size and even to downs-syndrome girls

[Zeus]

@Zeus
http://filesharingtalk.com/vb3/p-sct-disabled-help-post2420068/postcount144

The middle answer...you said that the site should be making profit (as long as you can use it for free). What if i and all the other users thought of it the same way...dont think of only yourself...that would be called selfish. And then if everyone thought it your way...there wouldnt be any sites/trackers to leech from and only service available would be through paid. Tracckers arent running a business here. If they are, they might as well sell original software, why use warez?? And if no one joins their site, they should shut it down...there are others that dont intend the same thing as making a profit or some other motto on the same idea...which is fucking BAD!

I am sorry, i pretty much misread your post or i cant find it anymore :/
I never posted that trackers should make a profit. I dont feel that way at all. I was simply pointing out that a lot of trackers are making a profit and that more and more trackers are being run as a business. I never said I agree with it. In fact if you read my posts you will see I said exactly the opposite.

[redcorvette]

ahhaa okay..maybe i am just not reading it right...theres too many long ass posts and its giving me a headache! :lol:

[pandabear]

I see you changed you sig, so you accepted :P

[blackbird]

:rolleyes:

[toti]

sorry for you man

[GoLDeN]

sorry for you man

read the thread due u must say congratz dude :D:D not sorry:lol:

[redcorvette]

I see you changed you sig, so you accepted :P

naw dude...i didnt...

[orka]

If that were true, why was this topic created by the user? :frusty:
I no true, I posted in way before I conntact iRC, but you know my story:), I fine and I get over it.

BUT lock here:

Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 6 (5 members and 1 guests) orka (http://filesharingtalk.com/vb3/../../members/orka-182292), Dr-SeMSeM (http://filesharingtalk.com/vb3/../../members/dr-semsem-187300), predateur (http://filesharingtalk.com/vb3/../../members/predateur-175479)

unbelievable....this guy who invited me and get BAN at sct is here and reading this post....

predateur (http://filesharingtalk.com/vb3/../../members/predateur-175479) I so dont like you! You made crash my world. And you dont even apologize!

[Fibre]

I wonder what SceneTorrents will do with the 2.7k euro's they made last month including the many thousands of euro's they made previously :)

[celtic]

Wow this thread still going...

[redcorvette]

Wow this thread still going...

BUMP..i mean..i cant believe it either..its EPIC!

[raj3186]

Lets see how long it goes :D

[redcorvette]

I wonder what SceneTorrents will do with the 2.7k euro's they made last month including the many thousands of euro's they made previously :)

the donations just cleared out on the 18th and there is 100euros already :O

[Ghost+Rider]

I wonder what SceneTorrents will do with the 2.7k euro's they made last month including the many thousands of euro's they made previously :)

the donations just cleared out on the 18th and there is 100euros already :O

Yeh add some viagra in teh fire :lol:..Do u want to see more essays on SCT donations :shutup:

Wtf is this thread all about it shud have been closed ages before when brandon invited him to FTN...Fuck it took me 2 days,3 bottles of beer to understand wut the shit was going on
Now i am finish reading so plz close this crappy thread :yup:

Edit:Sct staff is a bunch of fuckin liar and i agree with what brandon says :P
Idiots SCTers don't know the value of money they are hijacking just to give an enrty to teh site...

Edit2:i am drunk

[blackbird]

the donations just cleared out on the 18th and there is 100euros already :O

Yeh add some viagra in teh fire :lol:..Do u want to see more essays on SCT donations :shutup:

Wtf is this thread all about it shud have been closed ages before when brandon invited him to FTN...Fuck it took me 2 days,3 bottles of beer to understand wut the shit was going on
Now i am finish reading so plz close this crappy thread :yup:

Edit:Sct staff is a bunch of fuckin liar and i agree with what brandon says :P
Idiots SCTers don't know the value of money they are hijacking just to give an enrty to teh site...

Edit2:i am drunk

3 beer in 2 days , you must be really drunk :ermm:

[Skiz]

Now i am finish reading so plz close this crappy thread :yup:


If you don't like it, fuck off. :)

[raj3186]

:lol::lol:

[JA]

Now i am finish reading so plz close this crappy thread :yup:


If you don't like it, fuck off. :)

Hey Ghost, between me and you, i know a way to get a mod sacked :naughty:.



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[Polarbear]

If you don't like it, fuck off. :)

Hey Ghost, between me and you, i know a way to get a mod sacked :naughty:.



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but i'm absolutely with you about the wording :P

[LoKaLiRi]

bad news for u m8 srry :(

[sear]

Now i am finish reading so plz close this crappy thread :yup:


If you don't like it, fuck off. :)

:lol::lol: I didn't see that coming.

[scribble]

what's their irc anyway?

:\

[Sench]

Now i am finish reading so plz close this crappy thread :yup:


If you don't like it, fuck off. :)
nice one:naughty: