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hypoluxa3k
07-18-2003, 09:52 AM
i'm thinking of getting 150k at £18 a month

or

600k for £25 monthly

i'd like to know if 150k is drastically different, how long would a 5 min song take to download?

decisions, decisions.... :rolleyes:

Illuminati
07-18-2003, 09:55 AM
It mainly depends on what you're d/ling (i.e. sources, etc) but for a pure download (i.e. a download from a site), 5 minutes would roughly equal 15-20MB. As most songs are around the 6-8MB mark, it'd take about 3 minutes to d/l

Depending on how sources you d/l from, you can get faster or slower than that.

Hope that helps :) (Just remember to get a firewall if you do go broadband ;))

hypoluxa3k
07-18-2003, 10:12 AM
don&#39;t you mean most songs are 4-6mb ? <_<

anyway, getting a firewall, what is it and how do i get it?

Adster
07-18-2003, 10:14 AM
hmmm wish it was easy for me jsut to change from 56k to broadband or I for geography reasons I can&#39;t :(

but what ive heard is once you go from 56k to broadband thres no going back&#33;

Illuminati
07-18-2003, 10:41 AM
Originally posted by hypoluxa3k@18 July 2003 - 11:12



don&#39;t you mean most songs are 4-6mb ?&nbsp; <_<

No - Most songs varying in size because of their bit rate; the quality of the sound. Most 128k songs (most common bit rate on FT) are around 5MB, but 192s (the minimum bit rate where discrepancies are undistinguishable) are up to 10MB and above. That size range I gave was an average.


anyway, getting a firewall, what is it and how do i get it?

A firewall controls the internet activity through your connection, intending to protect you from hackers, (some) trojans, etc.

I&#39;d recommend you get ZoneAlarm Pro 4; it monitors activity in (hackers) & out (trojans), closes all your ports to stealth mode (hence you don&#39;t become part of a DOS attack ;)) uses ad blocking and is relatively easy to use. You should know where to get it from already ;)

DarthInsinuate
07-18-2003, 10:56 AM
i would go for the full on 600k package - 150k is just double modem speed, not much of a boost considering how slow 56k is

two good sites, with decent forums
ispreview (http://www.ispreview.co.uk)
www.adslguide.org.uk (http://www.adslguide.org.uk)

j4y3m
07-18-2003, 11:04 AM
600k you can get stuff like 15x faster than 56k if you use tcp optimizer :D

Spindulik
07-20-2003, 02:54 PM
Originally posted by hypoluxa3k@18 July 2003 - 02:52
i&#39;m thinking of getting 150k at £18 a month

or

600k for £25 monthly

i&#39;d like to know if 150k is drastically different, how long would a 5 min song take to download?

decisions, decisions.... :rolleyes:
25.00 EUR = 28.1675 USD
For 600k, I don&#39;t know what that is. But if it is 100.0kb/s (with 15.0kb/s upload) then that is a good price. Go for it.

Of course you should also get unlimited bandwidth, an e-mail account and atleast 10MB of web space.

Ron
07-20-2003, 03:06 PM
I think he was talking pounds Spindulik, not Euros. :)
Anyway, in Belgium, we get 3.3 Mbs down, and 128Kb up for about €40/month, and even that doesn&#39;t seem fast enough sometimes. :(

Skillian
07-20-2003, 05:09 PM
Get the 150K service and see how you get on. The good thing about NTL is you can ring up and upgrade to the 600K service instantly (like as soon as you hang up the phone). You can also cancel it whenever you want.

My bet though is that you won&#39;t be able to give up the 600K service once you&#39;ve tried it.

pol
07-20-2003, 05:13 PM
i use the uk ntl 150k service, i was on dialup with bt d/l&#39;ing at about 4-5kb/s - now with good sources i can expect between 14-15k

MetroStars
07-20-2003, 05:53 PM
might as well go for it what have u got 2 lose, well a lot if u get caught sharing, only kidding, u should most Definitely get Broadband

callum
07-20-2003, 09:00 PM
I would go for the 600k service, because you don&#39;t have to pay the installation fee.
I think you can downgrade after a month and save the £25 fee.
That is what I intended to do, but after a month of 600k there was no way I could go down to 150k.

the_faceman
07-20-2003, 09:06 PM
once you have broadband installed, you are in a 12 month contract, which i think can only be broken if you move home to a new area that DOESN&#39;T have NTL available.

I went from 56k to 128k (it&#39;s only went to 150k recently - used to be £15 for 128k) and stuck with it a while, said i was going to go to 600k for one month, and ended up keeping it.

Once you have broadband you can change each month, you could go from 150k to the 1MB service, then the next month go down to 600k or 150k then the next month go back up again or whatever. You can upgrade the speed from the website with just a few clicks, but you have to phone them up to downgrade, and you need to make sure you phone up in time so that it&#39;s changed over before the next billing month.

Someone said 150k is just double 56k, but it&#39;s far closer to 3 times as fast, because i&#39;ve yet to see someone connect on dial-up at over 51,600 kbps. It&#39;s a huge improvement on dial-up, but after a month you&#39;ll feel it&#39;s getting slow again and will be looking for that extra little bit of speed.

£18 for 150k, £25 for 600k. I&#39;d go for 600k, works out at something like 22p a day extra, and it&#39;s worth it.

Hope that helps.

Sparkle1984
07-20-2003, 10:21 PM
I have the 150K NTL service. It is quite good, because I can usually get about 17 or 18kb/s on a good download.
Round my Dad&#39;s place he still has 56K, and his download time rarely reaches above 4kb/s &#33;&#33;

redemption
07-21-2003, 12:47 AM
dont bother with the 150 or 650, im an ntl user and use the 1mbps and ita alot faster, the 150 n 650 looses connection 2 much

hypoluxa3k
07-21-2003, 10:19 AM
wasn&#39;t there a big problem, users complained when NTL decided to limit downloads?
what happened about that?

Dapadipz
07-21-2003, 12:07 PM
I think he was talking pounds Spindulik, not Euros.
Anyway, in Belgium, we get 3.3 Mbs down, and 128Kb up for about €40/month, and even that doesn&#39;t seem fast enough sometimes.&nbsp;

holy crap&#33; i pay around £30 for 512 down

hypoluxa3k
07-24-2003, 08:22 AM
so can you ntl users still download movies?
not be planning to, maybe a film now and again ;)