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fstrulz
11-23-2007, 08:24 PM
ZRAUlK8_2VE

http://img231.imageshack.us/img231/7696/vistablueds2.jpg


:glag:

Mr. Mulder
11-23-2007, 08:27 PM
do people still use windows?

gnlstryker
11-23-2007, 08:38 PM
U Foolz Should Be Ashamed Of Yer Selfs Win Wins.
And Linux Rocks !

But Apple Is For Gays.

Sextent
11-23-2007, 08:42 PM
I'm having no bother with Vista on the other PC. Not a crash, not a bit of hassle with either software or hardware.

Maybe the ultimate is better made.

MaaxHimself
11-23-2007, 08:59 PM
FreeBSD ftw

Sextent
11-23-2007, 09:08 PM
Who is BSD.

MaaxHimself
11-23-2007, 09:09 PM
Who is BSD.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FreeBSD

100%
11-23-2007, 09:13 PM
I did not know that we had a choice.

maddoxro
11-23-2007, 09:41 PM
xp still is fine for me :)

Sextent
11-23-2007, 09:43 PM
I'm using XP on this machine. Works fine for me too.

hijump
11-23-2007, 09:43 PM
No thx, to much resurses for Vista

4play
11-23-2007, 09:48 PM
seems sticking with xp (http://exo-blog.blogspot.com/2007/11/windows-xp-sp3-yields-performance-gains.html) if your gonna use windows is the smart option at the minute.

though dual booting and getting used to using a linux/bsd distribution would also be a smart move.

Mr. Mulder
11-23-2007, 09:52 PM
if kubuntu had a penis and a hand it would use the penis to urinate into vista's mouth and then put its hand over said mouth and stroke the throat of vista until it swallowed the urine.

Sextent
11-23-2007, 09:54 PM
Always too much fannying about with drivers and stuff for my liking.

whiteyes
11-23-2007, 10:26 PM
http://s1.directupload.net/images/071113/gqzrzuf8.jpg
Don't Give Up On Vista
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clocker
11-23-2007, 10:39 PM
if kubuntu had a penis and a hand it would use the penis to urinate into vista's mouth and then put its hand over said mouth and stroke the throat of vista until it swallowed the urine.
Since it has neither, what does it do?

Proper Bo
11-23-2007, 10:42 PM
It makes you feel smug and superior to anyone who uses windaes, obviousment.

Mr. Mulder
11-23-2007, 10:56 PM
Quite. :snooty:

Sextent
11-23-2007, 11:11 PM
It makes you feel smug and superior to anyone who uses windaes, obviousment.

Indeed.

If I want to install new hardware I've got to plug it in and wait for a few seconds.

People who use the linuxes have it so much easier.

Or software, what can you get that runs on windows. Fuck all. Not like other operating cisterns.

kaffeine
11-23-2007, 11:23 PM
vista is a piece of crap.. UNIX ftw!!!1

Sextent
11-23-2007, 11:32 PM
vista is a piece of crap.. UNIX ftw!!!1

You know, I'd never thought about it that way.

kaffeine
11-24-2007, 12:00 AM
You know, I'd never thought about it that way.
you're right, sorry for my well thought out point lol.

i see you have no problems with vista and that's fine, I hope it has implemented some nice features that was lacking in the past. I just like a well designed OS like UNIX... a personal preference.

I've never liked windows and vista is no exception. so IMO UNIX or a UNIX based system is a much better option than windows, but that's just me.

Sextent
11-24-2007, 12:16 AM
Good post.

kaffeine
11-24-2007, 12:19 AM
Good post.
http://img150.imageshack.us/img150/6332/aabf18sarcasmdetectorfs8.jpg

Sextent
11-24-2007, 12:24 AM
Nil return.

Something Else
11-24-2007, 12:27 AM
What a lovely conversation i've bumped in to here....

(sarcasm count 3/10)

I am hoping to upgrade to Vista in about a year when I am forced to by some software I really like. It normally takes a while for new Windows releases to settle down and become stable(ish).

Proper Bo
11-24-2007, 12:31 AM
I've had no problems* with vista, like. My m-audio soundcard didn't officially wurk with vista at first but the XP drivers for it worked fine.

*that weren't easily solved

j2k4
11-24-2007, 03:23 PM
Last evening, Vista told me to go have a nosh and a cuppa while it repaired itself.

Took about 45 minutes, and no secrets told, just flaky behavior fixed.

I could get used to that. :whistling

clocker
11-24-2007, 03:36 PM
Last evening, Vista told me to go have a nosh and a cuppa while it repaired itself.

Took about 45 minutes, and no secrets told, just flaky behavior fixed.

I could get used to that. :whistling
No doubt you'll have plenty of opportunity...

j2k4
11-24-2007, 03:55 PM
Last evening, Vista told me to go have a nosh and a cuppa while it repaired itself.

Took about 45 minutes, and no secrets told, just flaky behavior fixed.

I could get used to that. :whistling
No doubt you'll have plenty of opportunity...

My point. :whistling

Sextent
11-24-2007, 04:01 PM
To each their own.

I like XP, I'm playing with Vista.

I'm not particularly interested in arsing about with computers to make them work. So the simplicity and ubiquitousness of Windows appeals to me.

j2k4
11-24-2007, 06:13 PM
To each their own.

I like XP, I'm playing with Vista.

I'm not particularly interested in arsing about with computers to make them work. So the simplicity and ubiquitousness of Windows appeals to me.

That's precisely what I'm doing, but with a bit of the arsing about thrown in.

I would like to arse about with Linux; see what there is to see.

Maybe dual-boot my laptop, if I get a bigger HDD. :whistling

Spider_dude
11-24-2007, 06:18 PM
size isn't everything j2k5

Sextent
11-24-2007, 06:19 PM
There's nowt to see mate. An operating system which is more difficult to set up and use. Far inferior support for drivers etc and a minute fraction of the software available.

j2k4
11-24-2007, 06:25 PM
size isn't everything j2k5

Except when it is, Spiderd_oode. :whistling


There's nowt to see mate. An operating system which is more difficult to set up and use. Far inferior support for drivers etc and a minute fraction of the software available.

Yes, but I do like a bit of arsing about, as I said earlier. :whistling

Sextent
11-24-2007, 06:26 PM
Dabbler

Broken
11-24-2007, 07:27 PM
I've been running Vista for some time now.
It's really a good OS. It really takes a lot of computer power compared to XP but if your system has the right specs it really is faster and more stable than XP.

I'm glad MS went the direction they did. It will force manufactures to raise their products to a new standard. When things catch up, the complaints will be a distant memory.

fstrulz
11-24-2007, 07:31 PM
There's nowt to see mate. An operating system which is more difficult to set up and use. Far inferior support for drivers etc and a minute fraction of the software available.
It actually takes 45-90 or so minutes to install XP/Vista (depending how fast your computer is), while it only takes 15-25 minutes to install the latest release of Ubuntu or Fedora... The only problem with Linux drivers is when it comes to very old hardware and also ATI and NVIDIA graphic cards, but that has been fixed and improved just recently when both companies release stable Linux drivers for their cards... Linux also has great alternatives to Windows softwares, such as OpenOffice (FREE), GIMP image editor (FREE), Pidgin AIM/MSN/Yahoo/etc. all-in-one chat client (FREE), and other applications (FREE)... You can also install and run your favorite Windows softwares (Photoshop, uTorrent, etc.) and games in Linux using Wine.

But it's all matter of choice of course, and everyone should stick with their OS that they're most comfortable with. :)

Something Else
11-24-2007, 07:35 PM
http://imagecloset.com/7/99a2e518bee4aa90b64de3000eb54d1e/inweryeier.jpg (http://imagecloset.com)

Sextent
11-24-2007, 07:38 PM
I consider all software free, as does everyone else here. So putting it in capital letters isn't really a big selling point.

If I could easily get my wireless connection to work and connect me to the internets then I would play with linux.

masterbat
11-24-2007, 07:39 PM
There's nowt to see mate. An operating system which is more difficult to set up and use. Far inferior support for drivers etc and a minute fraction of the software available.
It actually takes 45-90 or so minutes to install XP/Vista (depending how fast your computer is), while it only takes 15-25 minutes to install the latest release of Ubuntu or Fedora... The only problem with Linux drivers is when it comes to very old hardware and also ATI and NVIDIA graphic cards, but that has been fixed and improved just recently when both companies release stable Linux drivers for their cards... Linux also has great alternatives to Windows softwares, such as OpenOffice (FREE), GIMP image editor (FREE), Pidgin AIM/MSN/Yahoo/etc. all-in-one chat client (FREE), and other applications (FREE)... You can also install and run your favorite Windows softwares (Photoshop, uTorrent, etc.) and games in Linux using Wine.

But it's all matter of choice of course, and everyone should stick with their OS that they're most comfortable with. :)



what linux torrent client do you use ? :naughty:

fstrulz
11-24-2007, 07:50 PM
I consider all software free, as does everyone else here. So putting it in capital letters isn't really a big selling point.

If I could easily get my wireless connection to work and connect me to the internets then I would play with linux.
Well...

MS Office 2007 = $499.95
OpenOffice = FREE
Photoshop costs $649
Gimp = FREE

Obviously big difference, that's why I put them in caps. :P Good luck with your WiFi in Linux... You could always ask for help and check out guides on http://ubuntuforums.org or other Linux distro forums.



what linux torrent client do you use ? :naughty:
I use Deluge (http://deluge-torrent.org).

Sextent
11-24-2007, 07:53 PM
Well...

MS Office 2007 = $499.95
OpenOffice = FREE
Photoshop costs $649
Gimp = FREE

Obviously big difference, that's why I put them in caps. :P Good luck with your WiFi in Linux... You could always ask for help and check out guides on http://ubuntuforums.org[B] or other Linux distro forums.



Specious comparison. Everyone here steals any software they want, including OS. So cost is not a factor.

Guides are irrelevant if there aren't the drivers, Shirley.

Sextent
11-24-2007, 07:57 PM
http://members.driverguide.com/index.php

Didn't help me but may help other people.

Sextent
11-24-2007, 07:59 PM
http://www.linux-drivers.org/

fstrulz
11-24-2007, 08:03 PM
Linux Mint (http://linuxmint.com/rel_daryna.php)

:rolleyes: Linux distro for the total newbies. Based on Ubuntu, it only takes a couple of clicks and minutes to install and everything comes "out-of-the-box."

Sextent
11-24-2007, 08:04 PM
Can that dual boot.

masterbat
11-24-2007, 08:06 PM
fstrulz (http://filesharingtalk.com/vb3/../../members/fstrulz-161439) , thanks

plz check the software section :D

MaaxHimself
11-24-2007, 08:09 PM
Linux Mint (http://linuxmint.com/rel_daryna.php)

:rolleyes: Linux distro for the total newbies. Based on Ubuntu, it only takes a couple of clicks and minutes to install and everything comes "out-of-the-box."


Yeah I have Linux mint installed but can't seem to get my wireless internet to work...:(
Any ideas?

Sextent
11-24-2007, 08:10 PM
That's the problem, getting drivers for your wireless thingy.

What type is it.

MaaxHimself
11-24-2007, 08:45 PM
Don't know for sure. It was built into my laptop

clocker
11-24-2007, 11:15 PM
[B]It actually takes 45-90 or so minutes to install XP/Vista (depending how fast your computer is), while it only takes 15-25 minutes to install the latest release of Ubuntu or Fedora...
nLite install of XP Pro with drivers and service packs slipstreamed takes just under 12 minutes on my less than spectacular PC.

Your assertion is null.

Proper Bo
11-24-2007, 11:23 PM
More to the point; who gives a feck how long it takes to install? Shirley it's not something you do every day.

fstrulz
11-24-2007, 11:23 PM
It actually takes 45-90 or so minutes to install XP/Vista (depending how fast your computer is), while it only takes 15-25 minutes to install the latest release of Ubuntu or Fedora...
nLite install of XP Pro with drivers and service packs slipstreamed takes just under 12 minutes on my less than spectacular PC.

Your assertion is null.
I see...

Well, my comment was directly to those majority who install/reinstall Windows the regular way.

Snee
11-24-2007, 11:24 PM
[B]It actually takes 45-90 or so minutes to install XP/Vista (depending how fast your computer is), while it only takes 15-25 minutes to install the latest release of Ubuntu or Fedora...
nLite install of XP Pro with drivers and service packs slipstreamed takes just under 12 minutes on my less than spectacular PC.

Your assertion is null.

Well, at least you can't install any (http://gimp-win.sourceforge.net/) of the free (http://www.softpedia.com/get/Office-tools/Office-suites/OpenOfficeorg-for-Windows.shtml) stuff (http://www.pidgin.im/download/windows/) he's bragging about, like.

You have to settle for the curiously over-priced stuff he's listing, so there :snooty:

Snee
11-24-2007, 11:28 PM
How crap does a computer have to be to take 45 minutes to install XP? :blink:

http://seds.org/~spider/ps2/ps77_14.jpg

callum
11-24-2007, 11:31 PM
How crap does a computer have to be to take 45 minutes to install XP? :blink:

http://seds.org/~spider/ps2/ps77_14.jpg

It takes some people a wee bit longer to pick their language. Canadian isn't even on the list.

Snee
11-24-2007, 11:34 PM
Canada's like the second largest cuntry in the world, that's a fucking travesty that is.

Typical merkins.

Sextent
11-24-2007, 11:35 PM
nLite install of XP Pro with drivers and service packs slipstreamed takes just under 12 minutes on my less than spectacular PC.

Your assertion is null.

Well, at least you can't install any (http://gimp-win.sourceforge.net/) of the free (http://www.softpedia.com/get/Office-tools/Office-suites/OpenOfficeorg-for-Windows.shtml) stuff (http://www.pidgin.im/download/windows/) he's bragging about, like.

You have to settle for the curiously over-priced stuff he's listing, so there :snooty:

Hoi, never let the facts get in the way of a good bit of bigotry.

Snee
11-24-2007, 11:41 PM
Well, at least you can't install any (http://gimp-win.sourceforge.net/) of the free (http://www.softpedia.com/get/Office-tools/Office-suites/OpenOfficeorg-for-Windows.shtml) stuff (http://www.pidgin.im/download/windows/) he's bragging about, like.

You have to settle for the curiously over-priced stuff he's listing, so there :snooty:

Hoi, never let the facts get in the way of a good bit of bigotry.

Your right.

I'm sorry, clocker :(

fstrulz
11-24-2007, 11:52 PM
Well, at least you can't install any (http://gimp-win.sourceforge.net/) of the free (http://www.softpedia.com/get/Office-tools/Office-suites/OpenOfficeorg-for-Windows.shtml) stuff (http://www.pidgin.im/download/windows/) he's bragging about, like.

You have to settle for the curiously over-priced stuff he's listing, so there :snooty:
Straight-up - those applications that I was "bragging" about are more like alternative apps for Linux than free apps for Windows. Linux programmers can't put price tags on their softwares, because Linux is all about distributing softwares for FREE and all about community... I actually use Pidgin on my Windows XP PC, because of its versatility... On my Linux PC and laptop, I actually use OpenOffice, Pidgin, and Photoshop (through Wine), because I love it better than Gimp.

As I said, it's all matter of choice. Use whatever floats your boat.

fstrulz
11-25-2007, 12:00 AM
How crap does a computer have to be to take 45 minutes to install XP? :blink:

http://seds.org/%7Espider/ps2/ps77_14.jpg
I had a "crap"py computer just like that one. :rolleyes:

I installed Ubuntu in it, which ran smoothly, and I sent it to a school in a third world country.

Peter North
11-25-2007, 12:10 AM
And dont forget ubuntu its free...
Dont have to pay nothing to get it.
Well the rest too, but im talking buying on the store.

Proper Bo
11-25-2007, 12:13 AM
How crap does a computer have to be to take 45 minutes to install XP? :blink:

http://seds.org/%7Espider/ps2/ps77_14.jpg
I had a "crap"py computer just like that one. :rolleyes:

I installed Ubuntu in it, which ran smoothly, and I sent it to a school in a third world country.



"Here kids, have a computer. Unfortunately, nothing works with it so you'll have to search the internets, which you don't have, to find ways to make stuff work"

whitmar
11-25-2007, 12:16 AM
I bought a new HP that came with Vista Ultimate installed about 4 months ago. I've never seen an OS that hangs so often, and for no discoverable reason. Microsoft should not expect the public to be unwitting beta testers of their released final products.

Something Else
11-25-2007, 12:33 AM
Don't give up on Vista it will work mostly fine in 9-12 months. :)

Sextent
11-25-2007, 12:39 AM
Well, at least you can't install any (http://gimp-win.sourceforge.net/) of the free (http://www.softpedia.com/get/Office-tools/Office-suites/OpenOfficeorg-for-Windows.shtml) stuff (http://www.pidgin.im/download/windows/) he's bragging about, like.

You have to settle for the curiously over-priced stuff he's listing, so there :snooty:
Straight-up - those applications that I was "bragging" about are more like alternative apps for Linux than free apps for Windows. Linux programmers can't put price tags on their softwares, because Linux is all about distributing softwares for FREE and all about community... I actually use Pidgin on my Windows XP PC, because of its versatility... On my Linux PC and laptop, I actually use OpenOffice, Pidgin, and Photoshop (through Wine), because I love it better than Gimp.

As I said, it's all matter of choice. Use whatever floats your boat.



Stop typing FREE in upper case when you're talking pish.

You know it makes sence.

Snee
11-25-2007, 12:47 AM
I'm sure there are tons of good retorts, and I know there are good reasons for using linux as well. He's just not found any yet. Maybe 'cos he's a bit of a beginner, like.

Snee
11-25-2007, 12:49 AM
Straight-up - those applications that I was "bragging" about are more like alternative apps for Linux than free apps for Windows. Linux programmers can't put price tags on their softwares, because Linux is all about distributing softwares for FREE and all about community... I actually use Pidgin on my Windows XP PC, because of its versatility... On my Linux PC and laptop, I actually use OpenOffice, Pidgin, and Photoshop (through Wine), because I love it better than Gimp.

As I said, it's all matter of choice. Use whatever floats your boat.



Stop typing FREE in upper case when you're talking pish.

You know it makes sence.

I'd like to think that he'll one day find out what to use bold text for, like.

your_creator
11-25-2007, 01:18 AM
ZRAUlK8_2VE

http://img231.imageshack.us/img231/7696/vistablueds2.jpg


:glag:



LMAO :lol:

clocker
11-25-2007, 01:25 AM
I'd like to think that he'll one day find out what to use bold text for, like.
Can you use bold text in Linux without recompiling the kernel and building text drivers?

Snee
11-25-2007, 01:35 AM
Depends. Will I be doing it on a tuesday?

fstrulz
11-25-2007, 01:37 AM
I had a "crap"py computer just like that one. :rolleyes:

I installed Ubuntu in it, which ran smoothly, and I sent it to a school in a third world country.



"Here kids, have a computer. Unfortunately, nothing works with it so you'll have to search the internets, which you don't have, to find ways to make stuff work"
Have you even tried Linux?

:whistling:

Proper Bo
11-25-2007, 01:38 AM
"Here kids, have a computer. Unfortunately, nothing works with it so you'll have to search the internets, which you don't have, to find ways to make stuff work"
Have you even tried Linux?

:whistling:



Yes, it didn't work with my sound card:dabs:

fstrulz
11-25-2007, 01:38 AM
Stop typing FREE in upper case when you're talking pish.

You know it makes sence.
FREE

fstrulz
11-25-2007, 01:44 AM
Have you even tried Linux?

:whistling:


Yes, it didn't work with my sound card:dabs:
That's too bad... I'd suggest that you try it again... Try the latest release of Ubuntu or Linux Mint or Fedora with their LiveCD and see if they'd be able to detect all of your hardwares... Yes, it does need a lil bit of effort sometimes to fully run Linux, but it's all worth it.

But if your PC runs perfectly on Windows XP/Vista, then you should obviously stick with it. :P

Proper Bo
11-25-2007, 01:51 AM
Does it have built-in drivers for m-audio firewire soundcards, like?

Peter North
11-25-2007, 03:18 AM
Stop typing FREE in upper case when you're talking pish.

You know it makes sence.
FREE




:glag:

Snee
11-25-2007, 03:29 AM
/fail

4play
11-25-2007, 10:21 AM
Does it have built-in drivers for m-audio firewire soundcards, like?

what model card is that ?

Linux actually supports far more hardware than windows. The problem is the latest and greatest hardware is rarely released with Linux drivers so it takes a while for the community to produce them, test them and fix the bugs.

hopefully all this is starting to change since Dell, HP and other manufacturers are shipping Linux pre installed with machines. If your hardware does not have reliable Linux drivers these days you are going to miss out on millions of potential sales.

4play
11-25-2007, 10:27 AM
Does it have built-in drivers for m-audio firewire soundcards, like?

what model card is that ?

Linux actually supports far more hardware than windows. The problem is the latest and greatest hardware is rarely released with Linux drivers so it takes a while for the community to produce them, test them and fix the bugs.

hopefully all this is starting to change since Dell, HP and other manufacturers are shipping Linux pre installed with machines. If your hardware does not have reliable Linux drivers these days you are going to miss out on millions of potential sales.

Something Else
11-25-2007, 11:39 AM
FREE


Your a fucking cawk...fekk off :)

Stop blathering on about linux...It's good, but XP is way better at the moment if you want functionality (I use all those free apps you mentioned on windows) And 4 thousand other things run too...Why don't you go back to sucking cawk and trading invites you scum. :)

Sextent
11-25-2007, 12:24 PM
Linux actually supports far more hardware than windows.

I'm afraid you will have to provide some evidence of that, or I will have to suggest you are talking out of your arse.

Not saying you're wrong or anything. However my own searches for linux drivers have led me to the opinion that there is a dearth or them. Whereas it seems untenable to suggest that very many hardware manufacturers would produce equipment without a Windows driver.

masterbat
11-25-2007, 12:29 PM
linux doesnt support msn or yahoo webcams . that sucks

clocker
11-25-2007, 01:48 PM
Linux actually supports far more hardware than windows.

I'm afraid you will have to provide some evidence of that, or I will have to suggest you are talking out of your arse.


A fresh Ubuntu install recognizes all of my hardware save the X-fi soundcard.
If I default to the onboard AC97 sound, Ubuntu will pick that up automatically.
I can't deny that I find that impressive.

Creative makes a Linux driver but only for 64-bit OS so I'd have to reinstall to try it.
Not to mention figure out how a driver gets installed in Ubuntu...no clue, ATM.

4play
11-25-2007, 02:56 PM
Myths, Lies, and Truths about the Linux kernel (http://www.kroah.com/log/linux/ols_2006_keynote.html)

Im currently showing a few of my sisters how to use open office, pidgin and amarok. so far they have had no problems. granted i spent about 2 hours getting the machine to a state that they could just login an everything works.

Sextent
11-25-2007, 03:21 PM
Supporting more "out of the box" is not the same as there being more linux drivers available for a wider range of hardware. Even if that is true.

Windows does not need to provide a specific driver for every piece of hardware because the manufacturer already does that. Always. Since they designed and built the hardware their engineers are the best people to write the driver to make it work.

The problem I have with linux is that if it doesn't allow me access to the internet then I can't even go looking for the drivers I need.

4play
11-25-2007, 03:44 PM
I would consider not being able to access the internet through wi-fi a complete show stopper for you trying out Linux. It was the same for me quite a while ago, i installed suse 8.0 only to find that my 56k modem was not support.

Like i said before this problem is slowly correcting itself where manufacturers are being forced to produce their own drivers for Linux or open up their specs so the community can make them or face missing out on an ever increasing market.

Vista has had a very similar problem where they have made changes that have broken old drivers. lots of manufacturers cant be arsed to spend the money to write new drivers for older hardware since they are not gonna see any return.

BawA
11-25-2007, 04:14 PM
although Ubuntu may be different somewhat but the look and the feel is complete rip off the windows, unlike mac which is a totally different type, i used the latest version of ubuntu i found no different on how it explorers and portrait, this alone shows the willingnesses of using windows among computer users so they made something same but different in infrastructure .

And FSTrulz pls stop saying its free, we here at FST anyway dont pay for any software to use atleast not for windows, so it doesn't make any different whether ubuntu is free or not.
and stop saying about drivers being installed instantly on linux, did at any time a standard hardware didnt response on windows, i have quite a lot of USB/external and internal hardwares and non of them ever gave me any problem with installing on vista not to mention XP.
unless you use all chines HW which have no windows support whom btw dont last long you wont have problem with drivers on windows.
graphics and audio drivers come with both OS's by default but their not much a use on both so anyway you must get manufacturer's driver which in linux case is a non official driver.

software range which linux has is nothing compare to windows not to mention gaming which is almost zero, and please dont talk of work around to install windows stuff on linux, we use computer so it do our work not we do its.
simplicity is something which modern OS's are offering more and more and linux is creating more and more workarounds.

security is one thing ubuntu users may be proud of it, well people not using linux much is what make it safe and out of hackers radar, its not worth the time to waste and not getting to newspapers headlines.
personally i think staying away from unnecessary sites and p2p application is enough to protect yourself.

Edit:
i forgot about vista...
am using it since the release and so far i have no problem, may be some minor application crash but this is always the case with new versions, not only windows but any software, it takes some time till they are fixed, my guess would be SP1, apart from that there is no issue.
its not much a resources hogger if you have atleast a 2Gb ram(600 or 800), and imo if some1 in today cant have that much ram then its a waste to have a computer. i have 2gb and what vista uses with all function on and lots of background application and addons(StarDoc) running it uses 800Mb of my ram.

Sextent
11-25-2007, 05:19 PM
I agree with pretty much everything BawA said there.

Apart from him saying fstrulz is a cunt. I think he's just a bit zealous in his proselytizing.

Mr. Mulder
11-25-2007, 07:18 PM
I'm sure both sides of the argument have had fair points made during this thread but have you considered this - windows sucks hairy poo stained monkey bawls? :smilie4:

Sextent
11-25-2007, 07:20 PM
Much as you have obviously put a lot of effort into that I just can't accept it.

Windows is worth every penny I paid for it.

Mr. Mulder
11-25-2007, 07:22 PM
no you are.

Mr. Mulder
11-25-2007, 07:22 PM
:snooty:

Sextent
11-25-2007, 07:26 PM
no you are.

You always fall back on that argument. It's just so obvious.

Proper Bo
11-25-2007, 07:27 PM
Does it have built-in drivers for m-audio firewire soundcards, like?

what model card is that ?

Linux actually supports far more hardware than windows. The problem is the latest and greatest hardware is rarely released with Linux drivers so it takes a while for the community to produce them, test them and fix the bugs.

hopefully all this is starting to change since Dell, HP and other manufacturers are shipping Linux pre installed with machines. If your hardware does not have reliable Linux drivers these days you are going to miss out on millions of potential sales.

Firewire Audiophile.

Mr. Mulder
11-25-2007, 07:28 PM
no you are.

You always fall back on that argument. It's just so obvious.
a bit like your face then innit, which linux has plenty of drivers for

Sextent
11-25-2007, 07:32 PM
You always fall back on that argument. It's just so obvious.
a bit like your face then innit, which linux has plenty of drivers for

Yeah, your arse and my face.

Mr. Mulder
11-25-2007, 07:33 PM
yeah you'd like that wouldn't you, whore.

Sextent
11-25-2007, 07:34 PM
I'd like it alright ... like it like a fox.

Mr. Mulder
11-25-2007, 07:36 PM
touché, good Sir :eyebrows:

4play
11-25-2007, 07:39 PM
Firewire Audiophile.

from what i have read (http://freebob.sourceforge.net/index.php/Main_Page) just update the firmware with the latest version on the official site. then if your running a debian based linux distro.

apt-get update && apt-get install -t experimental jackd
jackd -d freebob

should work then.

Proper Bo
11-25-2007, 07:43 PM
Firewire Audiophile.

from what i have read (http://freebob.sourceforge.net/index.php/Main_Page) just update the firmware with the latest version on the official site. then if your running a debian based linux distro.

apt-get update && apt-get install -t experimental jackd
jackd -d freebob

should work then.

Quality, there was me thinking double clicking the exe for the drivers on windaes was a pissabout.

Sextent
11-25-2007, 07:46 PM
Or indeed Windows rather politely noting that you appeared to have a new piece of hardware and enquiring if it could possibly be so bold as to request your permission to install it for you.

Indeed if Sir required it Windows would search the internets to ensure that you had the most up to date drivers.

Proper Bo
11-25-2007, 07:53 PM
It wasn't quite that simple with mine, like, I had to download the xp drivers and ewse those.

Something Else
11-25-2007, 08:24 PM
I have no objection to trying it.... a finger in every pie is my way
if pie goes bad remove finger
hand is safe :)

Snee
11-25-2007, 08:52 PM
whoops

Broken
11-25-2007, 10:06 PM
MS isn't so bad, their tech support is great.
Using live assist they installed a number of request only hot fixes so that files would delete faster for me in Vista. Things where hanging for some reason before.

Sextent
11-25-2007, 10:08 PM
MS isn't so bad, their tech support is great.
Using live assist they installed a number of request only hot fixes so that files would delete faster for me in Vista. Things where hanging for some reason before.

Posts 1337.

Broken
11-25-2007, 10:12 PM
1338 now

Sextent
11-25-2007, 10:14 PM
No it isn't.

Broken
11-25-2007, 10:16 PM
It was, all well. Nothing last forever.

plap
11-25-2007, 10:19 PM
The bush signature is sarcastic right?
At least I hope it is. :huh:

Broken
11-25-2007, 10:21 PM
We'll see.
Gotta be careful now adays, NSA and all.

After all, we are at war and all civil liberties have been suspended.



I mean,
Heil Bush!

Hairbautt
11-25-2007, 10:35 PM
T. Roosevelt was shot for trying to run for a "third term."

Broken
11-25-2007, 10:38 PM
Then I imagine more people should be supporting Bush for another term, yes?
Can he count on your vote?

Hairbautt
11-25-2007, 10:40 PM
http://www.forumspile.com/Misc-I_see_what_you_did_there.jpg

Sextent
11-25-2007, 10:42 PM
I was always under the impression that it was 2 and that's yer lot.

Third term not an option.

Broken
11-25-2007, 10:43 PM
lol.
That's OK. He's already proven he doesn't need votes to win anyways.
It just keeps the people happy to have an election every once in awhile.

Broken
11-25-2007, 10:44 PM
I was always under the impression that it was 2 and that's yer lot.

Third term not an option.


If you go by the Constitution, sure.
But we know better than that, don't we.

Sextent
11-25-2007, 10:47 PM
I was always under the impression that it was 2 and that's yer lot.

Third term not an option.


If you go by the Constitution, sure.
But we know better than that, don't we.

In what way do you know better.

Do you seriously think he will ignore the Constitution and stand for re-election.

I seriously doubt that.

Surely the Republicans wouldn't select him. So he would have to stand as an independent. No way he would be elected.

Hairbautt
11-25-2007, 10:51 PM
I was always under the impression that it was 2 and that's yer lot.

Third term not an option.
It would of been TR's second term, but the man who shot him said: "I shot Theodore Roosevelt because he was a menace to the country. He should not have a third term."..."I shot him as a warning that men must not try to have more than two terms as President."

I think it was because he finished McKinley's term (who was assasinated) and TR was his V.P. Anyways...the man later said that McKinley told him to do it in a dream.

Eric Rauchway, Murdering McKinley: The Making of Theodore Roosevelt’s America. (New York: Hill and Wang, 2003), 196-7.

Hairbautt
11-25-2007, 10:53 PM
If you go by the Constitution, sure.
But we know better than that, don't we.

In what way do you know better.

Do you seriously think he will ignore the Constitution and stand for re-election.

I seriously doubt that.

Surely the Republicans wouldn't select him. So he would have to stand as an independent. No way he would be elected.
The whole search thing without warrants bothers some people, but wasn't that recently revoked or was it? :unsure:

Broken
11-25-2007, 10:54 PM
Bush on the Constitution: 'It's just a goddamned piece of paper, I"m the President!" (http://www.gnn.tv/threads/10799/Bush_on_the_Constitution_It_s_just_a_goddamned_piece_of_paper)

I can see a third term happening. And a fourth, fifth...

Sextent
11-25-2007, 10:58 PM
So you chaps do suspect that he will stand for a 3rd term.

I find that amazing.

Something Else
11-25-2007, 10:59 PM
So it isn't a piece of paper? :blink:

Hairbautt
11-25-2007, 11:01 PM
So you chaps do suspect that he will stand for a 3rd term.

I find that amazing.
I don't, but if some people think that by all means speak up.
So it isn't a piece of paper? :blink:
:lol:

Broken
11-25-2007, 11:04 PM
America 2007 is Germany 1930 (http://www.nogw.com/nazibush.html)

fstrulz
11-26-2007, 04:20 AM
Don't give up on Vista it will work mostly fine in 9-12 months. :)

http://i198.photobucket.com/albums/aa236/pb100/shitpost.gif

4play
11-26-2007, 06:27 PM
bush could always follow putin (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/7022474.stm) and just run for prime minister.

I hear they both use vista as well :noes:

Something Else
11-26-2007, 07:18 PM
Time to dig out an old b3ta pic methinks.

http://img111.imageshack.us/img111/2069/rasputinjp2.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Sextent
11-26-2007, 07:34 PM
bush could always follow putin (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/7022474.stm) and just run for prime minister.

I hear they both use vista as well :noes:

What, of the UK.

No chance.

Skiz
11-26-2007, 07:44 PM
Time to dig out an old b3ta pic methinks.

http://img111.imageshack.us/img111/2069/rasputinjp2.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Is that Zack DeLaRocha?

Sextent
11-26-2007, 07:49 PM
:lol:

http://www.born-today.com/Today/pix/delarocha_zack.jpg

Proper Bo
11-26-2007, 07:52 PM
I'm amazed ewe knew who that was, jp

Sextent
11-26-2007, 07:53 PM
How in the name of fuck would I know such a thing.

Oh and I do see what you did there.

Proper Bo
11-26-2007, 07:54 PM
What did I do there?:blink:

Skiz
11-26-2007, 07:55 PM
Oh, it's some fellow named "Printmeister". I see.

Sextent
11-26-2007, 07:56 PM
You jokingly suggested that I might have known who that chap was, knowing full well there was no way on God's green Earth that I did.

Proper Bo
11-26-2007, 07:57 PM
I see what you did there.

Hairbautt
11-26-2007, 07:59 PM
I like Rage Against the Machine. I hear they're making a cumback.

Sextent
11-26-2007, 08:01 PM
I see what you did there.

I thought it rather cunning.

dinsdale
11-27-2007, 11:05 AM
http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=07/11/26/2358239&from=rss

Nuff said.

Something Else
11-28-2007, 12:09 PM
Vista has made it to Scotland now

http://img150.imageshack.us/img150/7338/85a8tbbso3.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Skiz
11-28-2007, 12:14 PM
What?

Something Else
11-28-2007, 12:17 PM
:01:

Barbarossa
11-28-2007, 12:17 PM
benchez you don't half post some shit :dabs:

Something Else
11-28-2007, 12:17 PM
Agreed. :lol:

TmZ
11-28-2007, 12:25 PM
Vista is cool

omericosun
11-28-2007, 02:07 PM
Vista Kills your Laptop Battery!!!!
2.5 hours and it's dead!
downgraded to Xp and my battery actually came (hmmmmm) and thanked me with 6 hours of pure porn fun.

Something Else
11-29-2007, 02:22 AM
http://img401.imageshack.us/img401/3084/mspeerx8.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

mbucari1
11-29-2007, 09:25 AM
Windows ROCKS! ...the day of installation. After that, it's a steady decline in performance and functionality. If it weren't for the windows rot, I'd be truly happy with it :)

Aaxel21
11-29-2007, 09:33 AM
I gave up on Vista after I read the reviews on it. Then I saw the price to buy it. I then had a memory lapse.

dinsdale
11-29-2007, 01:49 PM
OS X had problems too at first. Vista will probably be okay eventually. The fact that it was so many years late is another story... Linux seems to be gaining popularity too.

Hahaiah
11-29-2007, 11:37 PM
Proof that a picture is worth a thousand words :)

Defy
11-29-2007, 11:41 PM
XP still works just fine for me and MAC is still :ghey:

Aaxel21
11-30-2007, 10:59 AM
Yes, I love that pic. I whish that was me.

Something Else
11-30-2007, 03:10 PM
You wish you were a ponytailed nerd with washed out denim jeans and a warcraft t-shirt tucked in. :O :blink:

Sextent
11-30-2007, 10:20 PM
You wish you were a ponytailed nerd with washed out denim jeans and a warcraft t-shirt tucked in. :O :blink:

No, he is a ponytailed ...

callum
11-30-2007, 10:44 PM
I gave up on Vista after I read the reviews on it. Then I saw the price to buy it. I then had a memory lapse.

It's ok, one day you will have a thought of your very own, cherish it when it happens.

maddoxro
11-30-2007, 11:40 PM
i gave up on vista when i saw that my games were running like two 3dmark in the same time :(.

Magnum
12-01-2007, 12:08 PM
XP still is fine for me!!:)

Mr. Mulder
12-01-2007, 12:14 PM
kde >* (or gnome if you don't have a penis)

tweakz
12-02-2007, 05:17 AM
Vista is premature!

dinsdale
12-03-2007, 11:46 AM
kde 4 looks kinda cool

Something Else
12-03-2007, 06:22 PM
http://img412.imageshack.us/img412/8853/71zsgaonv2.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

masterbat
12-04-2007, 03:49 AM
my pc is an xp/linux dual boot . so what am i ?



http://img412.imageshack.us/img412/8853/71zsgaonv2.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

dinsdale
12-04-2007, 11:27 AM
that is pretty funny, need to send that round my office of linux nutters!

clocker
12-04-2007, 01:52 PM
my pc is an xp/linux dual boot . so what am i ?



French.