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fstrulz
12-19-2007, 04:30 AM
Yes or no?


There's only one right answer.

Skiz
12-19-2007, 04:33 AM
No.

There'd have to be one first.

deuce6000
12-19-2007, 04:36 AM
Yes.

Skiz
12-19-2007, 04:42 AM
Yes.

Tell him to fix my server then.

By the New Year would be fantastic.

fstrulz
12-19-2007, 04:55 AM
Yes.

Tell him to fix my server then.

By the New Year would be fantastic.
God can obviously do that... but I guess he won't 'cause you've been naughty this year.

JROQuinn
12-19-2007, 04:59 AM
Everything? Nope...

fstrulz
12-19-2007, 04:59 AM
OK, I'd like some serious and logical answers and explanations.

deuce6000
12-19-2007, 05:05 AM
There is no logical answers to that question.Either you believe or you don't..

JROQuinn
12-19-2007, 05:05 AM
Well according to the Bible, if you are forgiven of sins, then He has forgotten them. Therefore He cannot remember what they were ever.

Thats just one of many

Ill add another...He cant stop loving you. (some may have a problem with this one ;))

fstrulz
12-19-2007, 05:10 AM
There is no logical answers to that question.Either you believe or you don't..
There is. I have one.

I'll post it later. :)

Broken
12-19-2007, 05:45 AM
Yes he can do anything.
But, he won't do anything useful because he's a prick. lol.

xxtonic
12-19-2007, 05:53 AM
i have a video response to this.

zeitgeistmovie.com

watch it.

JROQuinn
12-19-2007, 06:04 AM
I watched the first 2 mins of that and it makes me want a joint

Broken
12-19-2007, 06:12 AM
i have a video response to this.

zeitgeistmovie.com

watch it.

Two hours long, you gotta be kidding.
Can you like sum it up for me in twenty words or less?

N4riX
12-19-2007, 09:21 AM
No. he would still have zero chance with jessica alba

Barbarossa
12-19-2007, 09:48 AM
No.

He can't disprove his own existence.

Chip Monk
12-19-2007, 12:38 PM
No.

He can't disprove his own existence.

You're forgetting what Oolan Caloophid (sp) said about the Babel Fish.

Barbarossa
12-19-2007, 12:48 PM
You're right, although it was on the tip of my tongue.

100%
12-19-2007, 12:53 PM
god is not an iphone.

Chip Monk
12-19-2007, 01:00 PM
I like to think that God was the original iPhone.

clocker
12-19-2007, 01:50 PM
I like to think that God was the original iPhone.
And Steve Jobs likes to think he's God.

fstrulz
12-19-2007, 07:32 PM
If God can do everything, can he make a stone so big, that he won't be able to lift it?


That's why I think the right answer is No.

Biggles
12-19-2007, 07:35 PM
Well there is the paradox between omniscience and omnipotence which suggests one cannot be both. So technically yes if one were to believe in such a God it would seem that there are limitations. How it would work in practice is anyone's guess.

chalice
12-19-2007, 07:43 PM
God is watching you heathens.

There'll be no fucking Skelectric for youse if you don't start taking shit as read.

Santa is Jebus's half-brother, who was fat on account of him not taking that mental fast in the desert thing.

He won't not bring you any presents. He'll just get some hoodies to torch your house on Christmas Eve.

Verily.

Sextent
12-19-2007, 08:07 PM
If God can do everything, can he make a stone so big, that he won't be able to lift it?


That's why I think the right answer is No.




Let us know when you get to your 7th birthday, then we can discuss it further.

Sextent
12-19-2007, 08:09 PM
Well there is the paradox between omniscience and omnipotence which suggests one cannot be both.

Explain please.

Double spaced, one side of the paper only, margin to the left.

Mr. Mulder
12-19-2007, 08:12 PM
Yes he can do anything.
But, he won't do anything useful because he's a prick. lol.
:glag: win!1.

chalice
12-19-2007, 08:14 PM
Well there is the paradox between omniscience and omnipotence which suggests one cannot be both.

Explain please.

Double spaced, one side of the paper only, margin to the left.

I was afraid you were gonna ask that.

Biggles
12-19-2007, 08:14 PM
Well there is the paradox between omniscience and omnipotence which suggests one cannot be both.

Explain please.

Double spaced, one side of the paper only, margin to the left.

Sod off

I have just stuffed my face with chicken Kiev, chips and beans and all the blood has deserted my brain for my stomach. I am just about fit to cope with the sexy lady thread (less distance for the blood to travel)

Sextent
12-19-2007, 08:15 PM
Explain please.

Double spaced, one side of the paper only, margin to the left.

I was afraid you were gonna ask that.

It kind of asked itself. I was merely it's mouthpiece on Earth.

Sextent
12-19-2007, 08:15 PM
Explain please.

Double spaced, one side of the paper only, margin to the left.

Sod off

I have just stuffed my face with chicken Kiev, chips and beans and all the blood has deserted my brain for my stomach. I am just about fit to cope with the sexy lady thread (less distance for the blood to travel)

:lol::earl::fairdo's:

Your unfeasibly large napper isn't as young as it used to be.

Biggles
12-19-2007, 08:20 PM
Sod off

I have just stuffed my face with chicken Kiev, chips and beans and all the blood has deserted my brain for my stomach. I am just about fit to cope with the sexy lady thread (less distance for the blood to travel)

:lol::earl::fairdo's:

Your unfeasibly large napper isn't as young as it used to be.

True and in stark black and white it looks like my diet is less than healthy - we do fruit and stuff too like :ermm:

There is a poem about the omnipotence thing if I can dig it up - I know FST will be beside himself with curiosity.

Sextent
12-19-2007, 08:23 PM
Tenterhooks

chalice
12-19-2007, 08:25 PM
A Man Called Horse.

Sextent
12-19-2007, 08:26 PM
Little Big Man

Biggles
12-19-2007, 08:26 PM
A Man Called Horse.

Didn't like the spinny nipple thing

Sextent
12-19-2007, 08:27 PM
You and your blue movies.

Biggles
12-19-2007, 09:00 PM
You and your blue movies.

His nipples were more than blue :blink:

On the other I can't find the poem but the jist of it was that omniscience precludes choice because he already knows what he will do whereas someone who is omnipotent can choose to do whatever he wants hence the paradox. In order to solve it you have to delve into ineffability - which I definitely am not up to especially after perusing the sexy lady thread.

chalice
12-19-2007, 09:10 PM
Robert Graves

The Cool Web


Children are dumb to say how hot the day is,
How hot the scent is of the summer rose,
How dreadful the black wastes of evening sky,
How dreadful the tall soliers drulling by,
But we have speech, to chill the angry day,
And speech, to dull the roses's cruel scent,
We spell away the overhanging night,
We spell away the soldiers and the fright.
There's a cool web of language winds us in,
Retreat from too much joy or too much fear:
We grow sea-green at last and coldly die

In brininess and volubility.
But if we let our tongues lose self-possession,

Throwing off language and its watery clasp
Before our death, instead of when death comes,
Facing the wide glare of the children's day,
Facing the rose, the dark sky and the drums,
We shall go mad, no doubt, and die that way


Probly.

Sextent
12-19-2007, 09:12 PM
You and your blue movies.
the jist of it was that omniscience precludes choice because he already knows what he will do whereas someone who is omnipotent can choose to do whatever he wants hence the paradox.

That sounds like the kind of pish a poet would come away way.

Biggles
12-19-2007, 09:16 PM
the jist of it was that omniscience precludes choice because he already knows what he will do whereas someone who is omnipotent can choose to do whatever he wants hence the paradox.

That sounds like the kind of pish a poet would come away way.

I think the difficulty is that the more you think about omniscience the more impractical it becomes. In essence time doesn't exist and every moment past, present and future is known in one timeless whole.

Least that is how I view it :blink:

Sextent
12-19-2007, 09:23 PM
That sounds like the kind of pish a poet would come away way.

I think the difficulty is that the more you think about omniscience the more impractical it becomes. In essence time doesn't exist and every moment past, present and future is known in one timeless whole.

Least that is how I view it :blink:

The religious would argue that we understand God's omniscience about as well as your average hun understands how to work a bar of soap. In other words, not at all.

That's the thing about stuff, we always consider it through our own intelligence and experience. I for one feel ill able to understand omniscience.

That's really why it all boils down to faith, for now. And also why the idea of a proof of God's existence has not been found. Maybe it's there, we just aren't able to see it yet. Newton would have thought the quantum effects to be more magic than science.

As we stand on the shoulders of giants and the tower gets taller who knows what we may see.

chalice
12-19-2007, 09:25 PM
That is to say that omniscience precludes omnipotence which isn't progressively veritable, like.

You could be omniscient without feeling the need to intervene.

You could also feel the need to intervene without possessing omnipotence.

Either way, god is a bit of a cunt, given that he's one or the other.

Edit: Or both.