Do Sysops care?

[soulreaper]

Hello everyone.I've had this burning question for a while now so i thought i'd ask.

Do sysops of torrents sites care about what "tracker level" their site belongs to? Do they also formulate their invite system based on the level of their site?
For example, would a sysop of ftn or e**** make it harder to get invites for their site just because their site is a level 9 or a 10?

Post your thoughts,ty.

[stoi]

my view for blackcats = the list is bollocks and not none of my decisions have anything to do with "that" list.

the only number i care about is the [#] number and we are [9] so thats me pretty happy

[jasperr]

for some... yes, it gives them an inflated e-penis....... or so they think..lmao

[angryghost]

I doubt that sysops actually run their tracker with the aim just to shoot up the "levels". Their invite systems or open signups are usually based on the trackers needs.

[mrnobody]

Hello everyone.I've had this burning question for a while now so i thought i'd ask.

Do sysops of torrents sites care about what "tracker level" their site belongs to? Do they also formulate their invite system based on the level of their site?
For example, would a sysop of ftn or e**** make it harder to get invites for their site just because their site is a level 9 or a 10?

Post your thoughts,ty.

Do all Sysop care? No

Do all Sysop not care? No

But i would say every Sysop of "good" tracker does not care about tracker lvl.

[antitrader]

Hello everyone.I've had this burning question for a while now so i thought i'd ask.

Do sysops of torrents sites care about what "tracker level" their site belongs to? Do they also formulate their invite system based on the level of their site?
For example, would a sysop of ftn or e**** make it harder to get invites for their site just because their site is a level 9 or a 10?

Post your thoughts,ty.

Do all Sysop care? No

Do all Sysop not care? No

But i would say every Sysop of "good" tracker does not care about tracker lvl.

cool .,.,

[fOrUmAs]

Hello everyone.I've had this burning question for a while now so i thought i'd ask.

Do sysops of torrents sites care about what "tracker level" their site belongs to? Do they also formulate their invite system based on the level of their site?
For example, would a sysop of ftn or e**** make it harder to get invites for their site just because their site is a level 9 or a 10?

Post your thoughts,ty.

many sysops even dont no abouth tracker lvl list

why would they care abouth that anyway

so my answer is No

;)

[dineshreddy]

sysops has lot of importance in tracker

[jasperr]

But i would say every Sysop of "good" tracker does not care about tracker lvl.


i think you said the key word there....

but there are many that play the L33t game and that has a lot to the do with that lvl list..... :whistling

[IceTee]

sysops has lot of importance in tracker


What?! :blink: Are you serious?

I'm sorry but I don't believe you :lol:

[maddoxro]

no,they don't care..and it's perfect this way :D

[raj3186]

wat sysop's really care abt is the giveways and trades made by their members when its against the rules of the tracker.

[DjDjazzer]

I don't really care about that!
My point is...I do my best for my users! Not because of any lists or tops! But it's just my opinion! ;)

[jasperr]

I don't really care about that!
My point is...I do my best for my users! Not because of any lists or tops! But it's just my opinion! ;)


That's refreshing to hear..... really, it is.... perhaps i'm just being judgemental....

not a member there.. but, it's good to know your one of the good guys..

[Polarbear]

Hello everyone.I've had this burning question for a while now so i thought i'd ask.

Do sysops of torrents sites care about what "tracker level" their site belongs to? Do they also formulate their invite system based on the level of their site?
For example, would a sysop of ftn or e**** make it harder to get invites for their site just because their site is a level 9 or a 10?

Post your thoughts,ty.

i think they care about quality and content ratings. they are probably interested what people think about their tracker from an external view.

reviews of their own tracker might grab their attention.

when you ask for opinions on a tracker forum people might not be 100% honest or a little shy when it comes to criticism.

tracker independent forums like fst give the opportunity to speak frankly about innumerable aspects from the user point of view.

that doesn't mean that constructive feedback is not allowed on your tracker.
it depends how open minded the sysop/staff is.

many site forums even have sections where you can criticize even though i don't think that someone would excoriate a tracker there.


what sysops are most definitely not interested in is the wiaw thread.

invites are given out on their decision wether the sites needs more members or not.

the wiaw thread is a reaction on those decisions and not vice versa

the rarity rankings are made by traders for traders and trading violates the tracker rules.

i would not exclude that some newer tracker sysops keep an eye on the rankings from time to time if they need more members.

but sysops from established trackers? no way.

of course those are only my presumptions. i'm not a sysop in the first place.

[Cruel]

Why should people even speculate and if some SYSOP actually did and he would answer the thread of course he would not confess this :)

But since this is for speculating maybe 98% do NOT care.

[shutdk]

No trackers care about which level they are. They care about their security and that's why they don't want their name posted in public which is fairy nuff. So people. Stop saying that trackers are closing their invites systems because they want to be a 1337 level 10, 11 12 or what so ever tracker. It's not a game getting those trackers.
That's just something >some< FST users made it. Trackers will find you if you deserve them. Period!

[arbaal]

I always thought sysops care only for beer, chicks and excuses ;)

[wrongun92]

Well I am not a sysop so I dont know what is going on in their minds;)

I think what I would look to build on is more towards the improvement of the content of the site and a welcoming community. Once these two things have been established, the tracker can only get better. Feedback from the users of the site should be considered as its the peer's positive/negative comments about a site that one appreciates the most and pays the most attention to I suppose. As for the invites, it really depends on how big the site is already and it may also have to do with security.

[angryghost]

Trackers that actually aim to just shoot the rankings usually fail because they do not have an established community in the site, and also no respectable uploader would go help a site with such stupid intentions. As Squirr3l said no "good" tracker would worrying about their level.

[supper]

I don't really care about that!
My point is...I do my best for my users! Not because of any lists or tops! But it's just my opinion! ;)are u relly sure sir u dont care:unsure:



http://filesharingtalk.com/vb3/f-bittorrent-invites-90/t-what-trackers-worth-with-reviews-and-ratings-142446/page873#post2443206

[fatcat69]

you are asking the wrong question...

should be:

Why do users care so much about ratings.


I have seen soo many users just blindly apply to a tracker just because its a certain level.

Thats the biggest load of horse sh*T ever.

Half of the coolest trackers/communities arent even above level 4 so your whole system is flawed.

If anything, the problem is that users have a need to flex their epenis and brag that they have a xlvl tracker, the ironic part is....when you die, not one person will miss you from any tracker and all that braggin will be in vain.

Moral of the story: throw that damn rating system out, I dont use it and a lot of other people dont use it that are aware of its flaws.

join trackers because you want to hang out there, not because a rating system said they are lvl 29

if you are just here to download, then use newsgroups and be safe and have faster speeds then torrents

and plenty of staff/sysops say the same damn thing.

f*ck it.

[maddoxro]

he just said signup were closed...

[kaffeine]

I think sysops of those "high level" tracker really hate the wiaw.. because it attracts a lot of unwanted attention from people who want to join only for the rarity, or to expand their pokemon collection, and not for the reasons they are giving in their requests (community, contents, etc).

Also, those levels are encouraging people to break trackers' rules by trading. And i've seen sysops from some of those "high levels" saying that that rarity thing means nothing to them. I don't think they make their decisions on how they give invites to their members based on that list at all.

As some said, if anything from that list is of interest to them is the reviews and the quality rank (the [#]).

[fatcat69]

i think the tracker review section is far more important then the rank bs

[fazzy07]

Hello everyone.I've had this burning question for a while now so i thought i'd ask.

Do sysops of torrents sites care about what "tracker level" their site belongs to? Do they also formulate their invite system based on the level of their site?
For example, would a sysop of ftn or e**** make it harder to get invites for their site just because their site is a level 9 or a 10?

Post your thoughts,ty.

The sysop find the best way to get new blood but not stinky blood.

They dont run by the WTIW if fact the list runs by what the sysops decide. Its just a damn rarity list not a bible

Well, ftn and E have had their own system for a while and its been working for them

[Adama]

65 % care and 35 % don't care about the level

[pandabear]

<******> sweet! ftn is down to level 8
<*******> less assholes trying to get in i hope

That about sums it up.

[TheFoX]

All the WIAW thread highlights is how easy or hard it is to get membership at a tracker. The WIAW thread has absolutely no influence on the quality of the tracker.

As some have stated, a tracker review is much more in line with what people want.

Rarity is no guarantee of quality, only that if you get such an invite, and like the tracker, respect your account a bit more because if you lose it, you'll find it hard to regain entry.

As for what SysOps think of the WIAW thread, I can tell you that we think it produces unwarranted attention to our trackers for the wrong reasons. People should want a tracker because it has what they want, not because it's hard to acquire. I can tell you that a percentage of people who acquire fsc invites leave their accounts to rot, because fsc is not for them.

It doesn't matter what community you name, there will be those who like/love it, those who use it, and those who leave it. No two people are the same, and no two trackers will attract the same two people.

As for the WIAW thread, this obviously satisfies those who's only intention is to go big game hunting (in a bit torrent sort of way).

[KravenX]

I always thought sysops care only for beer, chicks and excuses ;)

:yup:

[whitmar]

I'm not a sysop, nor do I know any. I do own a business, however, and I expect that they have many of the same concerns.

Firstly, meeting day to day operating costs are paramount. Without cash flow to pay for the infrastructure, the site is dead in the water.

Secondly, attracting high-caliber customers. Since a full-page ad in The New York Times, for example, could lead to a security risk as well as a financial liability, they have to rely on word-of-mouth referrals. That is where the WTAW thread could come in handy but, as kaffeine alluded, it's a double-edged sword. The higher the level, the more it becomes a status symbol in a forum like this one, and creates a frenzy of desire that could bring a detrimental amount of attention and scrutiny. Not to mention the throngs of "groupies" seeking e-Viagra for their e-penises leading to constantly full PM and email boxes and unwanted publicity for the individuals running the most sought-after sites.

This brings me to my third point: The long term viability of the operation must always be kept in mind. Since the first and second requirements are limited by political and legal constraints, the security of a business with an "ethically flexible" mission becomes quite a challenge. Keeping the site at full server capacity is difficult while keeping the membership devoid of people whose agenda is to shut the site down and wreak legal havoc on the administration. The site must set forth rules and remain constantly vigilant that their member stay compliant for their very survival.

In the general scheme of things, I imagine most sysops would prefer the list not exist, or at most, be considered less relevant.

[fatcat69]

I'm not a sysop, nor do I know any. I do own a business, however, and I expect that they have many of the same concerns.

Firstly, meeting day to day operating costs are paramount. Without cash flow to pay for the infrastructure, the site is dead in the water.

Secondly, attracting high-caliber customers. Since a full-page ad in The New York Times, for example, could lead to a security risk as well as a financial liability, they have to rely on word-of-mouth referrals. That is where the WTAW thread could come in handy but, as kaffeine alluded, it's a double-edged sword. The higher the level, the more it becomes a status symbol in a forum like this one, and creates a frenzy of desire that could bring a detrimental amount of attention and scrutiny. Not to mention the throngs of "groupies" seeking e-Viagra for their e-penises leading to constantly full PM and email boxes and unwanted publicity for the individuals running the most sought-after sites.

This brings me to my third point: The long term viability of the operation must always be kept in mind. Since the first and second requirements are limited by political and legal constraints, the security of business with an "ethically flexible" mission becomes quite a challenge. Keeping the site at full server capacity while keeping the membership devoid of people whose agenda is to shut the site down and wreak legal havoc on the administration. The site must set forth rules and remain constantly vigilant that their member stay compliant for their very survival.

In the general scheme of things, I imagine most sysops would prefer the list not exist, or at most, be considered less relevant.

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[denise119]

I can only speak for TorrentBytes but our only aim is to make our current members happy, not to please someone who hasn't even signed up and just taken their info from some tracker level that has been dished out to us.

The level means very little as it appears to be only based on how hard it is to get into the site, and for a site such as ourselves who will welcome everyone from the newest person to torrents who don't have a clue what their doing...through to the most experienced of members who has seen it all before.

For that reason we will never introduce an invite system and will keep our signups open on a first come first served basis.

Our site has always seen itself as a diverse community from the very first day it opened and thats how we intend it to remain.

We do listen to what our members have to say on our own forums, but we would never be influenced by what someone who isn't a member has to say.

[KFlint]

if a sysop actually care about WTAW rankings, then be sure that they aren't serious staff, and definitly poser who seek recognition nothing more

i'm pretty sure sysop don't like either WTO or WTAW threads because they both bring attention to their sites

so it makes me laugh when an FSTer start a new site and say, we are the next level 10 tracker....wow, awesome way to start a tracker, stfu :P

[apunpktun]

for some... yes, it gives them an inflated e-penis....... or so they think..lmao

true dat.... and also true for staff of some sites... but, most high level tracker staff r good

[jasperr]

he just said signup were closed...

look at the quote within the quote .. notice something?? :whistling

[shutdk]

if a sysop actually care about WTAW rankings, then be sure that they aren't serious staff, and definitly poser who seek recognition nothing more

i'm pretty sure sysop don't like either WTO or WTAW threads because they both bring attention to their sites

so it makes me laugh when an FSTer start a new site and say, we are the next level 10 tracker....wow, awesome way to start a tracker, stfu :P

That's what I'm talking about!

[silvertec]

In the Current environment sure all syops would be happy if their sites weren't listed here at all, rankings mean nothing, maybe better to have a low ranking so you stay unnoticed and stops a site been traded by kiddy card collectors.

[grimms]

I don't think LVL's should matter. If i was a sysop I would care more about the quality of my site, it's content, community, pre-times, etc. Who cares about the level. I mean it's good to know you site is valued, but if i was a sysop, it would be more of an afterthought.

[zxion]

Some trackers are in it for the money too :)

I'm pretty sure for some of them this is their main source of income hehe

But they deserve it for the amount of work they put into it

[grimms]

All the WIAW thread highlights is how easy or hard it is to get membership at a tracker. The WIAW thread has absolutely no influence on the quality of the tracker.

As some have stated, a tracker review is much more in line with what people want.

Rarity is no guarantee of quality, only that if you get such an invite, and like the tracker, respect your account a bit more because if you lose it, you'll find it hard to regain entry.

As for what SysOps think of the WIAW thread, I can tell you that we think it produces unwarranted attention to our trackers for the wrong reasons. People should want a tracker because it has what they want, not because it's hard to acquire. I can tell you that a percentage of people who acquire fsc invites leave their accounts to rot, because fsc is not for them.

It doesn't matter what community you name, there will be those who like/love it, those who use it, and those who leave it. No two people are the same, and no two trackers will attract the same two people.

As for the WIAW thread, this obviously satisfies those who's only intention is to go big game hunting (in a bit torrent sort of way).

Yes that holds alot of truth. I have gave people invites to places that they though they would like and leave their accounts to rot. I hate that the most!:dry:

[Actatoi]

Some trackers are in it for the money too :)

I'm pretty sure for some of them this is their main source of income hehe

But they deserve it for the amount of work they put into it


"It's all about the money, it's all about the dam dam darra dam dam."

[grimms]

Worrying about your tracker level is like worrying about people who don't like you. Who gives a shit!

[bornwithnoname]

I think syops try to do the best they can by their users. But no I do not they care what their level is here at FST.