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BawA
01-14-2008, 05:35 AM
is TL only tracker(major trackers) which doesn't take part in community sociality?
i mean all major tracker give weekly, monthly, yearly and occasionally gifts to their community, they give FL, Upload credit and double upload, Bonus system, request system and lot more but so far if memory serves i only saw TL giving a FL in one occasion and that was it.

TTi has "Movie of the week", "Movie of the Day", Lots of Freeleech, Seed time Exchange, offer, gifting lots of Seed time.

SCT and TB only give FL and DU occasionally.

to my opinion TTi is best in all aspects so far, they have hell lot of Quality torrents Specially DVD Sets which they give them for FL every day and week.
ohh and did i mention they are on FL right now.

t0mmy
01-14-2008, 05:49 AM
but TL is successful even without this socialism, what do you think might happen it begins to work on these things :D, its game over and they dont want that! :whistling

BawA
01-14-2008, 06:03 AM
i dont see any game-overs on TTi and other trackers, this activities made them more wanted without any decline in their service.
i love Tl, thats where i get my stuff but thats not the point.

jam0980tr
01-14-2008, 06:11 AM
TTi uploaders suck this what they do http://uppladdning.net/bilder/blandat/887b9eb3673d6a39ea2a1d6bcd9e050f.PNG

sense
01-14-2008, 06:15 AM
TTi uploaders suck this what they do http://uppladdning.net/bilder/blandat/887b9eb3673d6a39ea2a1d6bcd9e050f.PNG


To be fair that doesn't look to be one of their uploaders, it looks like someone offered that torrent and it got accepted. I forget how their offer system works. :unsure:

jam0980tr
01-14-2008, 06:19 AM
TTi uploaders suck this what they do http://uppladdning.net/bilder/blandat/887b9eb3673d6a39ea2a1d6bcd9e050f.PNG


To be fair that doesn't look to be one of their uploaders, it looks like someone offered that torrent and it got accepted. I forget how their offer system works. :unsure:

well he got owned. :lol:

shygrrrl
01-14-2008, 06:29 AM
Socialism? LOL. :lol:

All hail Marx and Lenin!

krunktastic
01-14-2008, 06:50 AM
Im sorry, which other trackers have SOCIALISM?

Dale.Cooper
01-14-2008, 06:56 AM
Lol Socialism? Wtf?

Actatoi
01-14-2008, 07:03 AM
TTi uploaders suck this what they do http://uppladdning.net/bilder/blandat/887b9eb3673d6a39ea2a1d6bcd9e050f.PNG


I don't quite understand the fuzz about a sites pack and people sharing it? Why don't they want it to be shared? Beacuse mostly the, especially a movie pack are just a bunch of dvd's thrown into a pack for big gb amount.

I understand a sites rules about uploading it elsewhere and won't do it. But I don't see the reason, anyone care to make me get it, maybe?

Cheffy
01-14-2008, 07:11 AM
FL as well. But TL dont need to offer their members anything.
Even without "of the week,Freeleech, or double upload it is still one of my top 3 trackers.
Their life time on torrents and content is simply amassing!

krunktastic
01-14-2008, 07:19 AM
TL is nice but I wish they would be kinder towards their members and offer some more FL and awards. Likewise, ScT could ease up a little bit against who they believe to be "cheaters".

t0mmy
01-14-2008, 07:23 AM
they dont really owe us a thing, they are providing a prime tracker, what more can you want..

Mike_007
01-14-2008, 07:53 AM
just check out old torrents. tl has lots of seeds in old torrents.
if tl starts those "fl, 2*, bonus", user's buffer will increase, and the seeders will disappear very soon.

so tl is just focus on one thing (content), and do it BEST.

jam0980tr
01-14-2008, 08:00 AM
TTi uploaders suck this what they do http://uppladdning.net/bilder/blandat/887b9eb3673d6a39ea2a1d6bcd9e050f.PNG


I don't quite understand the fuzz about a sites pack and people sharing it? Why don't they want it to be shared? Beacuse mostly the, especially a movie pack are just a bunch of dvd's thrown into a pack for big gb amount.

I understand a sites rules about uploading it elsewhere and won't do it. But I don't see the reason, anyone care to make me get it, maybe?

people should respect the amount of time they put in makeing the packs and when u see someone stealling it uploading it don't you feel bad, well i do!!

Actatoi
01-14-2008, 08:13 AM
people should respect the amount of time they put in makeing the packs and when u see someone stealling it uploading it don't you feel bad, well i do!!

Isn't the whole point of filesharing to share?

berserk1980
01-14-2008, 08:39 AM
people should respect the amount of time they put in makeing the packs and when u see someone stealling it uploading it don't you feel bad, well i do!!

Isn't the whole point of filesharing to share?

good pirates donot steal other pirates.
you play in a field, you should show some respect.

Cheffy
01-14-2008, 08:49 AM
When trackers "steal" other trackers packs they should be kind enough to pay the proper respect to the trackers that originally uploaded them. Not just rename them and claim them as their own.

DavidLRM
01-14-2008, 08:52 AM
When trackers "steal" other trackers packs they should be kind enough to pay the proper respect to the trackers that originally uploaded them. Not just rename them and claim them as their own.

So the torrent sites announce who their source is for the scene files?

I don't see SCC saying "We got this torrent from *** topsite".

Torrent sites are thieves to begin with, and shouldn't then be pissed when someone steals from them.

DKre8ive1
01-14-2008, 09:29 AM
TL is one of the easiest trackers to keep a good ratio on I feel at least, so they don't really need to change there ways.

As for torrent sites claiming scene releases as there own that aint cool since you have to basically share back what you take and that could be considered a credit system. So it is just like being on FTP site were you get credits for racing it from one site to another.

But then there are times when torrent sites do there own rips and uploading those to another site without the consent of the torrent site that made the rips could cause some ill will towards the uploader. The way I would personally look at these releases would be as if they were an "internal" release and I personally would respect there decision of allowing it to spread or not.

This is just my personal opinion on how I see it.

Dark Archon
01-14-2008, 09:35 AM
2008-01-09 - HAPPY BIRTHDAY TORRENTLEECH!!has this happened yet? maybe thats TL's giveback to its members

disconny
01-14-2008, 09:36 AM
2008-01-09 - HAPPY BIRTHDAY TORRENTLEECH!!

Today TL is becoming 3y old...!!We want to thank you each one of you personally,for making this possible..!

Stay tuned,following days a...suprise party may take place...!

//Staff has this happened yet?
i think it was a joke by them. communist pigs.

Mistral
01-14-2008, 10:11 AM
i mean all major tracker give weekly, monthly, yearly and occasionally gifts to their community, they give FL, Upload credit and double upload, Bonus system, request system and lot more but so far if memory serves i only saw TL giving a FL in one occasion and that was it.

SCT and TB only give FL and DU occasionally.

At the risk of stating the obvious and covering old ground...

TL and ScT are pay2leech trackers, regular free leech would cut into their profits.

As for TB, it's not a matter of them only doing it occasionally, it's that they didn't do it at all on principle. Until recently. Now though packs are free leech 365 days a year and they've just had a month of free leech in december followed by double upload this month.


;)

Actatoi
01-14-2008, 10:36 AM
good pirates donot steal other pirates.
you play in a field, you should show some respect.

You can't give me an real answer can you? I havn't done it, won't do it. Only asking why they feel like that and if anyone had any input on it.

But you clearly fail, beacuse 95% of torrent trackers packs are STOLEN from other pirates. :whistling

I agree with DKre8ive1 about the own site doing rips. Like groupbuys and similiar.



has this happened yet?
i think it was a joke by them. communist pigs.

So far the have given idlers in their IRC channel without accounts an account.
I don't know if they're planning on doing something for the people that already were on the tracker.

But I think it were a very nice gesture from their side.

stoi
01-14-2008, 02:20 PM
Suppose you could put BCG into that bracket as well, even though we do have the SP system.

But we will never have free leech, i have even asked the other staff and uploaders if they would want it and the resounding response was no freaking way, and tbh i am glad as i do not agree with the principle of it either.

We have torrents that are still alive that have been on the tracker for 1 year + i even recycled (boosted old torrents back to the top of browse page) an XBOX FTP program that was 2meg which had 7 seeders after 1 year on the tracker.

I would rather have a one stop shop of everything you need in one place, than torrents being uploaded 1 minute after pre and dieing out within 3 months.

On the subject of stealing packs/torrents, i will make this short and sweet as i have said my views in another thread somewhere.

Once an uploader has uploaded it, and once a leecher has snatched it, the uploader/tracker cant do nothing about it, and shouldnt do anything about it, its up to the leecher to do with as he pleases imho

to me its all about sharing whats out there, so if an uploader rips something himself and uploads it on my tracker then he finds it on another tracker he should be chuffed, not pissed off as after all someone thought it was good enough to share somewhere else. and if they do not give credit to the uploader/tracker where they got it from originally, who the hell cares, as long as the item is being shared by as many people as possible, thats all that matters to me.

Nemrod
01-14-2008, 02:49 PM
they dont really owe us a thing, they are providing a prime tracker, what more can you want..


Absolutely right.:yup:

Besides, if something works fine, why do you have to fix it?.
And TL works like a swiss clock, no bonus, no gifts, no nothing... but itīs the tracker where I can keep my ratio healthy with no effort. I donīt care what I download, Iīm sure there always will be somebody leeching.

BawA
01-14-2008, 03:14 PM
But TL dont need to offer their members anything.

they dont really owe us a thing, they are providing a prime tracker, what more can you want..

any time wondered TL without its members or few members would it still be called top 4 trackers? so stop saying they dont owe us anything, they owe us a little appreciation just like how we appreciate them by investing our time/BW in TL. all i say we should have equal appreciation towards us, without us Tl is nothing and we are one great tracker short without it.
keeping a good ratio, torrent life and amount of torrents at TL is only because of large user database and nothing else which in its place helps the revenue income for them.

just check out old torrents. tl has lots of seeds in old torrents.
if tl starts those "fl, 2*, bonus", user's buffer will increase, and the seeders will disappear very soon.
i have 900Gb buffered account at TL i wouldn't want anymore but for sack of struggling members they can occasionally give a FL. i dont believe that making a buffered will result in less seed activity, if a person truly admires a tracker making a buffer will make him do anything but stop making more buffer, buffering is like addiction to me(more like pringles), it makes me seed more and more.

Mike_007
01-14-2008, 03:44 PM
@Actatoi (http://filesharingtalk.com/vb3/../../members/actatoi-178361) imagine there are 10 trackers. they make their own packs. then comes No.11 tracker, it does nothing but steal No.1--No.10's packs. ok, now of course No.11 tracker is the best, because it has 10 different packs (although it did nothing).

of course, you could share any packs from any trackers with your family & friends. but you should not use others hardwork to benefit your own tracker!

some may say trackers steal from ftp topsites. but remember those are 2 different kind of playgrounds. and ppl even pay for ftp, if they pay for something, why the hell need to give damn credit.

anyway, at last, why the hell you just donot say trackers steal from artist, programmer & directer?!!!


@BaWa
not everyone is good user like you. if they get ok ratio (usual 0.9, normal user donot expect too much), they will stop seeding. (they will think in this way -- why i need to seed when i am asleep/ have breakfast/ play basketball )

tl has the best condition in old torrents. i think it is because of:
1. no fl.2*.bonus........ (maze has bonus, tti has bonus, check their old torrents)
2. tl has great content, ppl need to seed in order to get buffer for the future-dl.

Forevame7189
01-14-2008, 03:56 PM
I have files from TL still seeding from last June and August! Files there last forever and at least for the most part two or more people are leeching from me everyday. TL doesn't need to change, its fine as is.

deathking81
01-14-2008, 04:00 PM
To be fair that doesn't look to be one of their uploaders, it looks like someone offered that torrent and it got accepted. I forget how their offer system works. :unsure:

well he got owned. :lol:
lol, yes he did.

BawA
01-14-2008, 04:01 PM
heck i didnt see so much TL support in my "Tl vs SCT" thread :lol:
bottom line is Tl is one of best if not "The" best, i dont hate it because of one point; every1 have their own style of running things, ill keep supporting it!!
Viva la TL

disconny
01-14-2008, 05:11 PM
wtf is this pack stealing, i seriously think you are all idiots about this. its a fucking pack of files that were made by scene groups. holy shit, i took all the hdtv xvid releases for heroes s02 and put it in a heroes s02 pack ! HOLY SHIT ONLY 1 PERSON THOUGHT OF THIS ON ONE TRACKER, EVERYONE ELSE STOLE IT!
Man someone worked really hard to find a bunch of random releases, create a torrent file and upload it. Let me see here, I got some gay porn, let me make a pack of it. anyone want to steal it? LoL come to think of it, I bet no one stole SCT's gay and tranny packs.

Actatoi
01-14-2008, 07:49 PM
but you should not use others hardwork

It's not hardwork throwing in a couple of scene releases in a torrent and name it after your tracker.

If it's something else then scene releases I've already stated my opinion in my other post.