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Post things music related that annoy you. Don't say like "I hate rap" because that is just a personal taste.
You know what I hate?
Remixes. They take a good song and make it sound crappy. Now taking a crappy song and making it sound good there is nothing wrong with that but that's never the case.
Not being able to understand the lyrics. You cant fully understand the words the singer are saying. You can only understand a part of it. This can be fixed by looking up the lyrics and reading them while listening to the song. But I would like to understand what the singer is saying without having to look up it's lyrics.
Shitty quality recordings. Except for St. Anger, the problem of bad production quality usually comes only with basement recordings. Like the stuff you hear on mp3.com. You can have a potentially great song not lived up to it's greatest potential because of bad recording quality. Cost is usually the reason for this but you can always record the music onto your computer using a pirated copy :lol: of Nuendo. That is if you know how to use the software.
That stupid growling in Gothic Metal. The female vocals in gothic metal I usually love but when it comes to the male growls I hate it. It's annoying and I cant understand what he is trying to say anyway. Get rid of the damn growls. Either have all female vocals (no female growling) or have the male singer sing normally
People not knowing what style of music a band is. People calling bands rock when they are not rock. An example would be Linkin Park. I hear people call Linkin Park a rock band all the time. Get your facts straight morons. Nu-metal is not rock.
Anything piss off you? :P
Gemby!
07-28-2003, 09:22 PM
umm i happen to like most the things above so they aint that bad - remixes can be good and linkin park are a grunger band :D
mogadishu
07-28-2003, 09:33 PM
I hate remixes. Epitemy was P Diddy's Rendition of Kashmir. Mad me want to throw up that someone can butcher such an amazing song. How did he get the rights to it?
3rd gen noob
07-28-2003, 09:36 PM
Originally posted by mogadishu@28 July 2003 - 22:33
P Diddy
there you go...
diddy is such a tit (that might be a scottish joke)
BigBank_Hank
07-28-2003, 10:28 PM
I don't like when the instruments in a band overpower the singer and you can't hear his/her voice. An example of this is Lisa Marie Pressley, I wanted to hear what she sounded like and all you hear is her mumbling over the music. :angry:
Celerystalksme
07-29-2003, 01:26 AM
Originally posted by 3rd gen noob+29 July 2003 - 07:36--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (3rd gen noob @ 29 July 2003 - 07:36)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-mogadishu@28 July 2003 - 22:33
P Diddy
there you go...
diddy is such a tit (that might be a scottish joke) [/b][/quote]
Agree's
And i also hate when supposed "music fans" who don't play music and have no understanding of music run their mouth like they are the next 50cent or Eminem bitching and dissing all these bands where as they couldn't play a instrument if their life depended on it...
Actually I would just love to see eminem playing the the guitar...Then he can say he is better than whitey ford :lol:
3rd gen noob
07-29-2003, 01:29 AM
Originally posted by Celerystalksme@29 July 2003 - 02:26
Actually I would just love to see eminem playing the the guitar...Then he can say he is better than whitey ford :lol:
em can rap though...:P
Celerystalksme
07-29-2003, 01:31 AM
Originally posted by 3rd gen noob+29 July 2003 - 11:29--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (3rd gen noob @ 29 July 2003 - 11:29)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Celerystalksme@29 July 2003 - 02:26
Actually I would just love to see eminem playing the the guitar...Then he can say he is better than whitey ford :lol:
em can rap though...:P [/b][/quote]
point taken...Whitey can sing folk *oh wait thats a bad thing* :lol:
3rd gen noob
07-29-2003, 01:34 AM
Originally posted by Celerystalksme@29 July 2003 - 02:31
point taken...Whitey can sing folk *oh wait thats a bad thing* :lol:
:lol:
Adster
07-29-2003, 01:37 AM
I totaly agree with the puff Daddy eh P didy thing
silverccrow
07-29-2003, 05:31 AM
I do not agree with the puff Daddy eh P didy thing <_<
dmorgan89
07-29-2003, 05:36 AM
eh p. diddy is so-so i dont really like much p. diddy. I did see a behind the scenes on vh1 about him and i give him respect because the brother has been through a lot.
In my opinion linkin park is a rap/rock band. not metal. i think metal goes to slipknot and bands like that.
dmorgan89
07-29-2003, 05:41 AM
In my opinion.
Rap/Rock - Limp Bizkit, Kid Rock, Linkin Park.
Metal - slipknot, icp, cradle of filth,
Rock - evanescence, system of a down, marilyn manson.
All are pretty much in a bigger classification called rock. Which is pretty much other than pop, country and rap.
draven
07-29-2003, 05:59 AM
Originally posted by mogadishu@28 July 2003 - 21:33
How did he (P. Diddy) get the rights to it?
from Jimmy Page that's who... he gave him lots and lots of money :angry:
Adster
07-29-2003, 06:24 AM
same thing happened to Sting Every Breath You Take every little tenny reckons it's a love song now pffffft :angry:
Another thing about music I hate:
People ripping off other peoples work. I heard that on Last Resort by Papa Roach they stole guitar riffs from Iron Maiden. I cant validate it but it's pretty believable. Write your own fucking music :angry: Not to menction rappers taking other peoples music and rapping off it.
Adster
07-29-2003, 06:47 AM
Another thing about music I hate:
People ripping off other peoples work. I heard that on Last Resort by Papa Roach they stole guitar riffs from Iron Maiden. I cant validate it but it's pretty believable. Write your own fucking music Not to menction rappers taking other peoples music and rapping off it.
OMG
I thought I was the only one. I remember when that first came out I thought it sounded like a Iron Maiden sound and couldn't work it out, now it's all clear
Originally posted by Hogster@29 July 2003 - 06:47
Another thing about music I hate:
People ripping off other peoples work. I heard that on Last Resort by Papa Roach they stole guitar riffs from Iron Maiden. I cant validate it but it's pretty believable. Write your own fucking music Not to menction rappers taking other peoples music and rapping off it.
OMG
I thought I wa the only one I remember when that first caem out I thought it sounded like a Iron Maiden sound and couldn't work it out now it's all clear
:huh: You wanna rewrite that in proper English?
Celerystalksme
07-29-2003, 07:34 AM
How much more english do you want??...Or do you need to learn how to read??
draven
07-29-2003, 04:30 PM
LMFAO ! ! ! :lol: :lol: :lol:
3rd gen noob
07-29-2003, 04:33 PM
Originally posted by Arm@29 July 2003 - 07:38
Not to menction rappers taking other peoples music and rapping off it.
rappers using other rapper's beats can lead to good new songs though
Celerystalksme
07-29-2003, 04:35 PM
Originally posted by 3rd gen noob+30 July 2003 - 02:33--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (3rd gen noob @ 30 July 2003 - 02:33)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Arm@29 July 2003 - 07:38
Not to menction rappers taking other peoples music and rapping off it.
rappers using other rapper's beats can lead to good new songs though [/b][/quote]
He is just a hardcore metal person who won't listen to reason :lol:
Originally posted by Celerystalksme@29 July 2003 - 16:35
He is just a hardcore metal person who won't listen to reason :lol:
Hardcore metal? :huh: You mean like slipknot? :huh: :huh: Nah, I don't like that kinda music. :P I didn't say rappers using rappers beats, I said rappers taking songs like Dream On and rapping off of it. That just sounds like shit to me. :rolleyes: But I hate rap too so that's the problem.
3rd gen noob
07-29-2003, 08:19 PM
Originally posted by Arm@29 July 2003 - 20:51
But I hate rap too so that's the problem.
now that's the problem right there...
monkfi5h
07-29-2003, 08:55 PM
I hate sell outs
*cough* Limp Bizkit *cough*
Ohh and everything dmorgan89 listed isn't in the right category
Evanescane isn't rock or metal...Its pop
Neither is Limp Bizkit and Linkin Park
<_<
village idiot
07-30-2003, 01:28 AM
Originally posted by Arm@28 July 2003 - 21:17
That stupid growling in Gothic Metal. The female vocals in gothic metal I usually love but when it comes to the male growls I hate it. It's annoying and I cant understand what he is trying to say anyway. Get rid of the damn growls. Either have all female vocals (no female growling) or have the male singer sing normally
eh you've probably just heard lame bands. check out in flames, their singer pulls off the growling really well and does it with melody. download Egonomic, that's a great song.
sparsely
07-30-2003, 02:10 AM
I don't really hate anything about music.
I guess that's only because I listen to what I like. ;)
Every music has it's time and place and people whose taste it suits, I guess.
I dnn't even care much about artists remaking other songs. Except for a few select cases.
There's some music you just shouldn't fuck with, out of respect or humility. Such as Janis Joplin & Pink Floyd.
Or the American Pie song.
I find genres pretty irritating, though. Either you end up lumping everything into vague Rock, Rap, Country, R&B,
and possibly Jazz & Blues, which makes the picky people angry (that's not rock that's Nu-Metal).
Or you have 100 sub genres to remember, and who fits in what category, and which album was really more
Lo-Fi than Ska-Alterna-Hip-Hop-Hardcore-Emo-Punk.
I just say, "I got the new Spiritualized CD."
People say, "Who's that? What're they like?"
I say, "Like going to church on lots of drugs. With guitars. And a congregation who's just about lost its faith."
What I hate about music is copyright, and the fact that it's so controlled. With our current laws, there is never going to be
any more true folk music. Case in point: The House Of The Rising Sun. Eric Burdon and the Animals probably
own (or their label) the copyright to it, but I've got a CD of Woody Guthrie singing it way back in 50something.
Noone really knows who wrote it. Like most of the songs you learned as a kid, nobody held any rights to it, but
everyone new it.
Now, our musical entertainment is compromised. Because record companies don't promote the best bands, or the
most talented singers. Just the most marketable. If Pink Floyd were to have never existed before, and come out today,
you'd probably hear one song on the radio, or a quick blurb on MTV.
Once again, they've sold our souls for the price of a P.Diddy music video.
And it's good because they tell you.
Adster
07-30-2003, 02:18 AM
nice post
dmorgan89
07-30-2003, 02:18 AM
hate sell outs
*cough* Limp Bizkit *cough*
Ohh and everything dmorgan89 listed isn't in the right category
Evanescane isn't rock or metal...Its pop
Neither is Limp Bizkit and Linkin Park
*cough*idiot*cough*
i said in my OPINION. And evanescence isn't pop. it's rock dumbass. and evanescence is pop culture.
nsync is pop. britney spears is pop. evanescence sounds nothing like them. evanescence, limp bizkit, linkin park is pop culture. not pop.
thedrocks16
07-30-2003, 02:24 AM
I hate when those main stream 'bands' have the lyric "i'm real".
Originally posted by village idiot+30 July 2003 - 01:28--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (village idiot @ 30 July 2003 - 01:28)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Arm@28 July 2003 - 21:17
That stupid growling in Gothic Metal. The female vocals in gothic metal I usually love but when it comes to the male growls I hate it. It's annoying and I cant understand what he is trying to say anyway. Get rid of the damn growls. Either have all female vocals (no female growling) or have the male singer sing normally
eh you've probably just heard lame bands. check out in flames, their singer pulls off the growling really well and does it with melody. download Egonomic, that's a great song. [/b][/quote]
:angry: :blink: That song sux. I don't like that kind of music. What is that Black Metal or something? The gothic metal I was talking about is something like the Gathering. Ever heard of the Gathering>? :huh:
dmorgan89
07-30-2003, 02:30 AM
I hate when those main stream 'bands' have the lyric "i'm real".
examples?
thedrocks16
07-30-2003, 02:33 AM
i think a bunch of the rap\hip-hop\pop people say it but i think it was j lo that really made me laugh.
scribblec
07-30-2003, 02:34 AM
linkin park is nu-metal
no they are rock rap
there there own genre
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thedrocks16
07-30-2003, 02:36 AM
linkin park is nu-metal
no they are rock rap
there there own genre
nu-metal is rap rock
dmorgan89
07-30-2003, 02:40 AM
nu-metal is rap/rock? i have never heard of nu-metal.
i just thought he meant metal.
Originally posted by scribblec@30 July 2003 - 02:34
linkin park is nu-metal
no they are rock rap
there there own genre
http://x-treamtalk.com/forums/images/smiles/icon_rolleyes.gif Linkin Park is NOT rock. Rap metal yes but not rap rock. Get your facts straight.
the_faceman
07-30-2003, 03:10 AM
i haven't read this topic fully. but the thing(s) i hate about music is.....
people that automatically dislike music just because it's in the mainstream. It's obvious some of it is marketed crap, but some stuff is successful and widely accepted because it is good.
and also people that automatically think that just because they are one of the few people that have heard of a certain band, that this automatically makes themselves and the band "underground" and also "cool". The fact is, a lot of lesser known bands are excellent, but a lot of them are lesser known for a reason - they suck chowder balls for breakfast.
people that call a band sell-outs as soon as they get on MTV. Sure, there are bands whoring themselves out for this kind of publicity, but who gives a flying f*ck, as long as the music stays good. People do, however, have a right to start disliking a band if they change their sound significantly to something you don't like, but that doesn't give you the right to knock the band if they have widened their audience by doing so.
that's about it, i'll leave the general hating of every "scene" there is out of this, and just say that people should like music for what it is, not what kinda clothes etc the band and their fans wear.
3rd gen noob
07-30-2003, 03:14 AM
Originally posted by Arm@30 July 2003 - 03:54
http://x-treamtalk.com/forums/images/smiles/icon_rolleyes.gif Linkin Park is NOT rock. Rap metal yes but not rap rock. Get your facts straight.
linkin park isn't RAP anything...
:angry:
dmorgan89
07-30-2003, 03:19 AM
linkin park isn't RAP anything...
your overruled. <_<
Linkin Park is NOT rock. Rap metal yes but not rap rock. Get your facts straight.
what part about linkin park's music makes them metal. they use a little electronics. maybe at beginnings of songs. they don't even scream that much. just in small parts of songs. what convinces you that they're metal? :huh:
Originally posted by dmorgan89@30 July 2003 - 03:19
linkin park isn't RAP anything...
your overruled. <_<
Linkin Park is NOT rock. Rap metal yes but not rap rock. Get your facts straight.
what part about linkin park's music makes them metal. they use a little electronics. maybe at beginnings of songs. they don't even scream that much. just in small parts of songs. what convinces you that they're metal? :huh:
Metal doesn't have to have screaming and grinding guitars to be metal. I cant describe that makes Linkin Park metal but I know they are not rock.
3rd gen noob
07-30-2003, 03:27 AM
Originally posted by dmorgan89@30 July 2003 - 04:19
linkin park isn't RAP anything...
your overruled. <_<
damn
i need to take that gavel away from you
:P
dmorgan89
07-30-2003, 03:29 AM
in my opinion... when you say metal. metal means hardcore. some screaming and some loud high guitar sounds. pretty much they are a louder and more hardcore than rock. like slipknot. they're just out of control.
linkin park is too sings really low and calm and everynow and then breaks out. but it's all just opinion. :rolleyes: we can just say thier rap/rock/metal. but i think they fall into the same category as kid rock and lb.
Adster
07-30-2003, 03:31 AM
How many times do i have to say this
Linkin Park is not RAP or METAL!!
there guitar playing sux no solos and a pthetic treble sound
no metal doesnt have to have screaming ect. jsut listen to some power metal Like Drea Theater
Linkin Parks music is too basic and easy
I remember the day people were trying to say Nirvana are metal, no way! ever heard of Grunge?
Faith No More their early stuff had Mike rapping at times and were they called rap metal??? Not at all!
groups like
Limp Bizkit
POD
Paupa Roach
Linkin Park
Ect
have this new so called new sound which doesn't appeal to me at all who cares what the Genre is??
dmorgan89
07-30-2003, 03:31 AM
damn
i need to take that gavel away from you
B) :D
dmorgan89
07-30-2003, 03:37 AM
ok hogster :blink: mr. know it all. we're just giving out opinions. we're not criticizing what others say. :angry:
since you know everything... what genre are they? come on tell us about limp bizkit, linkin park and all the bands you hate. i guess thier not even music are they.
Adster
07-30-2003, 03:43 AM
Did I say their not music??? no I didn't at all I said they have there own genre you really want a genre cal them alternative pop/ Rock
Originally posted by dmorgan89@30 July 2003 - 03:37
since you know everything... what genre are they?
Nu-Metal. :P either nu-metal or rapcore. Both of which are in a sub-category of metal I like to call "Trash Metal." But that is just the feeble opinion of a very socially repressed teenager who is too damn cheap to buy cds.
Adster
07-30-2003, 03:51 AM
uh ohh better get the :flame: out
HeavyMetalParkingLot
07-30-2003, 03:52 AM
am i the only one who just calls it music?
Adster
07-30-2003, 03:54 AM
am i the only one who just calls it music?
HeavyMetalParkingLot
07-30-2003, 03:57 AM
http://www.spacespider.net/emo/doa16.gif
Adster
07-30-2003, 03:58 AM
doesn't work HMPL :(
dmorgan89
07-30-2003, 04:01 AM
Did I say their not music??? no I didn't at all I said they have there own genre you really want a genre cal them alternative pop/ Rock
ok i might agree with alternative rock. they are alternative rock also. but i still they rap a little.
dmorgan89
07-30-2003, 04:02 AM
maybe we should just start another topic and see other people's opinions?
dmorgan89
07-30-2003, 04:11 AM
eh ok ;) back to the topic. the only thing i don't like about music is much of it is headed by the riaa. pretty much it.
mynamehere
07-30-2003, 04:12 AM
dmorgan89: Linkin Park is nu-metal. Nu-metal is a highly polished, over produced, poppy, and accessible version of metal. Its more or less the complete opposite of what makes up real metal. Nu-metal also happens to suck.
And please don't use my custom title, I'm pretty sure thats against the rules anyway.
dmorgan89
07-30-2003, 04:17 AM
dmorgan89: Linkin Park is nu-metal. Nu-metal is a highly polished, over produced, poppy, and accessible version of metal. Its more or less the complete opposite of what makes up real metal. Nu-metal also happens to suck.
And please don't use my custom title, I'm pretty sure thats against the rules anyway
:blink: ok whatever you say. i'm giving up on this discussion.
Adster
07-30-2003, 04:19 AM
dmorgan89: Linkin Park is nu-metal. Nu-metal is a highly polished, over produced, poppy, and accessible version of metal. Its more or less the complete opposite of what makes up real metal. Nu-metal also happens to suck.
lol thats so true espically that last line
Celerystalksme
07-30-2003, 04:24 AM
Im so glad i been asleep for 8 hours while all this utter BS is being said...
Plus i had this cool dream where i had this club (like the one from Gangs Of New York)...And yeah i got kill everyone i ever hated...Gawd that was fun...
Adster
07-30-2003, 04:30 AM
The thing is this thread was labeled and I quote "what I hate about music"
It said it all that names so this is the thread that it was asking for
Celerystalksme
07-30-2003, 04:32 AM
Originally posted by Hogster@30 July 2003 - 14:30
The thing is this thread was labeled and I quote "what I hate about music"
It said it all that names so this is the thread that it was asking for
Well i thought what i dreamt about was better than adding to all the b!tching and whining thats going on...
sparsely
07-30-2003, 04:39 AM
All this arguing over what kind of music Linkin Park makes... :rolleyes:
Originally posted by Sparsely
I find genres pretty irritating, though. Either you end up lumping everything into vague Rock, Rap, Country, R&B,
and possibly Jazz & Blues, which makes the picky people angry (that's not rock that's Nu-Metal).
Or you have 100 sub genres to remember, and who fits in what category, and which album was really more
Lo-Fi than Ska-Alterna-Hip-Hop-Hardcore-Emo-Punk.
I just say, "I got the new Spiritualized CD."
People say, "Who's that? What're they like?"
I say, "Like going to church on lots of drugs. With guitars. And a congregation who's just about lost its faith."
But nobody ever listens to me.... <_<
I should've never given this thread a serious answer.
Celerystalksme
07-30-2003, 04:41 AM
Originally posted by Sparsely+30 July 2003 - 14:39--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Sparsely @ 30 July 2003 - 14:39)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> All this arguing over what kind of music Linkin Park makes... :rolleyes:
<!--QuoteBegin-Sparsely
I find genres pretty irritating, though. Either you end up lumping everything into vague Rock, Rap, Country, R&B,
and possibly Jazz & Blues, which makes the picky people angry (that's not rock that's Nu-Metal).
Or you have 100 sub genres to remember, and who fits in what category, and which album was really more
Lo-Fi than Ska-Alterna-Hip-Hop-Hardcore-Emo-Punk.
I just say, "I got the new Spiritualized CD."
People say, "Who's that? What're they like?"
I say, "Like going to church on lots of drugs. With guitars. And a congregation who's just about lost its faith."
But nobody ever listens to me.... <_<
I should've never given this thread a serious answer. [/b][/quote]
not many people listen to serious answers...
they are more after the stupid answers so they can flame a person
*sighs* ;)
3rd gen noob
07-30-2003, 04:44 AM
Originally posted by Celerystalksme@30 July 2003 - 05:41
not many people listen to serious answers...
they are more after the stupid answers so they can flame a person
*sighs* ;)
i eat rabbits. a lot. especially all the really fluffy ones
:P
Celerystalksme
07-30-2003, 04:51 AM
Originally posted by 3rd gen noob+30 July 2003 - 14:44--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (3rd gen noob @ 30 July 2003 - 14:44)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Celerystalksme@30 July 2003 - 05:41
not many people listen to serious answers...
they are more after the stupid answers so they can flame a person
*sighs* ;)
i eat rabbits. a lot. especially all the really fluffy ones
:P [/b][/quote]
Im all for the dead rabbits :lol:
plus Linkin Park is METAL :lol: :lol:
dmorgan89
07-30-2003, 04:53 AM
so did some reasearch.
Nu Metal Find: Select search type an artist an album a songEnter your search query
Nu Metal is the latest form of Heavy Metal. Whereas traditional Heavy Metal and Thrash play straight rhythms with power and speed, Nu Metal slows down the tempo and turns up the groove. The vocals are usually non-melodic and often hip-hop influenced. As with all forms of Heavy Metal, the guitar is still at the center of the music, but many Nu Metal bands have expanded out from the standard guitar, bass, and drum combo to include additional musicians, including DJs, multiple vocalists, and sample artists. The pioneering works of Nu Metal include Faith No More's 'The Real Thing' and Helmet's 'Meantime.' ~H. Tait, MSN Music
so it's rap/rock.
Key Artists & Composers
Korn
Deftones
Disturbed
Nonpoint
Papa Roach
Linkin Park
P.O.D. (Payable On Death)
Downset
Shootyz Groove
Dog Eat Dog
Coal Chamber
Godsmack
Crazy Town
Kid Rock
Rage Against the Machine
Powerman 5000
Nothingface
3rd gen noob
07-30-2003, 04:55 AM
hip hop is not rap...
Originally posted by dmorgan89@30 July 2003 - 04:53
so did some reasearch.
Nu Metal Find: Select search type an artist an album a songEnter your search query
Nu Metal is the latest form of Heavy Metal. Whereas traditional Heavy Metal and Thrash play straight rhythms with power and speed, Nu Metal slows down the tempo and turns up the groove. The vocals are usually non-melodic and often hip-hop influenced. As with all forms of Heavy Metal, the guitar is still at the center of the music, but many Nu Metal bands have expanded out from the standard guitar, bass, and drum combo to include additional musicians, including DJs, multiple vocalists, and sample artists. The pioneering works of Nu Metal include Faith No More's 'The Real Thing' and Helmet's 'Meantime.' ~H. Tait, MSN Music
OOH where did you find that at?
Celerystalksme
07-30-2003, 05:00 AM
Originally posted by dmorgan89@30 July 2003 - 14:53
so did some reasearch.
Nu Metal Find: Select search type an artist an album a songEnter your search query
Nu Metal is the latest form of Heavy Metal. Whereas traditional Heavy Metal and Thrash play straight rhythms with power and speed, Nu Metal slows down the tempo and turns up the groove. The vocals are usually non-melodic and often hip-hop influenced. As with all forms of Heavy Metal, the guitar is still at the center of the music, but many Nu Metal bands have expanded out from the standard guitar, bass, and drum combo to include additional musicians, including DJs, multiple vocalists, and sample artists. The pioneering works of Nu Metal include Faith No More's 'The Real Thing' and Helmet's 'Meantime.' ~H. Tait, MSN Music
so it's rap/rock.
Key Artists & Composers
Korn
Deftones
Disturbed
Nonpoint
Papa Roach
Linkin Park
P.O.D. (Payable On Death)
Downset
Shootyz Groove
Dog Eat Dog
Coal Chamber
Godsmack
Crazy Town
Kid Rock
Rage Against the Machine
Powerman 5000
Nothingface
Disturbed = Metal
Coal Chamber = Metal (a weird out there sorta metal)
But yeah im over it all
no one will ever change my mind on anything cause i can be a stubborn bastard when i want to be...
So Fuck The Police/RIAA/MPAA/The World...
sparsely
07-30-2003, 05:00 AM
The thing is there's no definitive categorization.
Just because that guy got his published on MSN, there are probably 100 different
people with lists/articles, whatever, categorizing them as thrash, whiny-whiteboy-rap, pop, crap, Nu-whatever, etc.
It's not solvable. It's just music. It's just Linkin Park.
People that want to know what category it falls under usually aren't music fans anyway.
They only want to stay within their chosen genre. That's why it's so important to categorize it properly.
Fuck it. I'mma listen to Strauss, then The Beta Band, then The Geto Boys, then Merle Haggard.
Cause I like music. Whatever you wanna call it. :P
Celerystalksme
07-30-2003, 05:01 AM
Originally posted by Sparsely@30 July 2003 - 15:00
The thing is there's no definitive categorization.
Just because that guy got his published on MSN, there are probably 100 different
people with lists/articles, whatever, categorizing them as thrash, whiny-whiteboy-rap, pop, crap, Nu-whatever, etc.
It's not solvable. It's just music. It's just Linkin Park.
People that want to know what category it falls under usually aren't music fans anyway.
They only want to stay within their chosen genre. That's why it's so important to categorize it properly.
Fuck it. I'mma listen to Strauss, then The Beta Band, then The Geto Boys, then Merle Haggard.
Cause I like music. Whatever you wanna call it. :P
Im Gonna Listen To Corpoarte Avenger...Least not many people have heard of them...so they can't go wah wah wah about them...
Adster
07-30-2003, 05:14 AM
Godsmack is grunge btw
Deftones metal
Cool Chamber Metal
Disturbed well a bit of both The Game is a real metal song
the rest so called NU crapo metal
emo_fan77
07-30-2003, 05:25 AM
BTW Slipknot is Nu-Metal!!!!!!!!!!!!
Yes they scream but they are not "out of control!" If you want real metal listen to...
Extol
As I Lay Dying
Zao
I could name more, but I don't feel like going through my CD collection. Those are "out of control" metal bands.
Thats my 2 cents.
Celerystalksme
07-30-2003, 05:31 AM
Originally posted by Hogster@30 July 2003 - 15:14
Godsmack is grunge btw
Godsmack is Gay :lol:
dmorgan89
07-30-2003, 05:35 AM
well i didn't make them up. i just did the research. i wouldn't say hip-hop is different from rap. i dont think people know the difference. eminem says he's hip-hop then he says he's a rapper. they refer to nelly as a rapper, but according to him "i'm tired of people judging what's real hip-hop, half the time be da nigga's who album drop".
dmorgan89
07-30-2003, 05:36 AM
hogster is the forum's genre labeler. he beats the professionals. <_<
hell yeah i like this nu-metal stuff. i just found my favorite genre.
Page about nu metal. Full information about nu metal bands: Coal Chamber, Deftones, Evanescence, ill Niņo, Kittie, Korn, Limp Bizkit, Linkin Park, Mudvayne, Papa Roach, P.O.D, Slipknot, Soulfly, Spineshank, Static-X, Stone Sour, System Of A Down , Taproot and more...
[DEUTSCH]
Seite über nu metal. Alle Informationen uber nu metal bände wie: Coal Chamber, Deftones, Evanescence, ill Niņo, Kittie, Korn, Limp Bizkit, Linkin Park, Mudvayne, Papa Roach, P.O.D, Slipknot, Soulfly, Spineshank, Static-X, Stone Sour, System Of A Down , Taproot und mehr...
most of my favorite artists are nu-metal - korn, il nino, linkin park, limpbizkit, mudvayne, papa roach. system of a down, p.o.d.
sparsely
07-30-2003, 05:43 AM
Originally posted by dmorg@ quoting Nelly
"i'm tired of people judging what's real hip-hop, half the time be da nigga's who album drop".
WHAT???? :blink:
dmorgan89
07-30-2003, 05:49 AM
it's a quote from one of nelly's songs called #1
Adster
07-30-2003, 05:55 AM
dmorgan89 I ahev study Music and have 2 degrees at uni with it I shoudl knwo what i'm talking about. I hope you don't think those bands you mentioned are metal??? read my list I did early about whats a REAL metal band. and 2nd Gen Noob can give a lsit about whos a REAL rapper
Celerystalksme
07-30-2003, 06:07 AM
Originally posted by Hogster@30 July 2003 - 15:55
dmorgan89 I ahev study Music and have 2 degrees at uni with it I shoudl knwo what i'm talking about. I hope you don't think those bands you mentioned are metal??? read my list I did early about whats a REAL metal band. and 2nd Gen Noob can give a lsit about whos a REAL rapper
And Cely knows more than both of you put together so shudup :P
I get pissed off at people who say people should listen to alot of different categories of music and they aren't true music fans if they only like one style. I say you should find a style you like and stick with it. Sure you can explore different music but your favorite style is still your favorite.
dmorgan89
07-30-2003, 07:31 AM
I get pissed off at people who say people should listen to alot of different categories of music and they aren't true music fans if they only like one style. I say you should find a style you like and stick with it. Sure you can explore different music but your favorite style is still your favorite.
are you talking about those people who listen to country, rap, and pop. Just anything thats popular pretty much. Yes true music fans have a favorite type of music they like.
NikkiD
07-30-2003, 01:13 PM
Guys... I've deleted/edited several posts in this thread. I don't want to have to close it, as long as you can all be mature and DISCUSS. There's nothing wrong with having differing opinions, and just because you don't agree, it does NOT mean you can have at each other. If you can debate this with a little more class and a little less name calling, I'll leave the topic be.
Originally posted by Arm@30 July 2003 - 06:35
I get pissed off at people who say people should listen to alot of different categories of music and they aren't true music fans if they only like one style. I say you should find a style you like and stick with it. Sure you can explore different music but your favorite style is still your favorite.
How boring only listening to one genre
Celerystalksme
07-30-2003, 02:22 PM
Originally posted by NikkiD@30 July 2003 - 23:13
Guys... I've deleted/edited several posts in this thread. I don't want to have to close it, as long as you can all be mature and DISCUSS. There's nothing wrong with having differing opinions, and just because you don't agree, it does NOT mean you can have at each other. If you can debate this with a little more class and a little less name calling, I'll leave the topic be.
Loves Nikkid...thinks she is the best moderator ever :)
Hopefully none of them where my posts...considering how many posts i've done i lost track when and where i posted ;) ...my bad :)
the_faceman
07-30-2003, 02:49 PM
Originally posted by dmorgan89@30 July 2003 - 08:31
I get pissed off at people who say people should listen to alot of different categories of music and they aren't true music fans if they only like one style. I say you should find a style you like and stick with it. Sure you can explore different music but your favorite style is still your favorite.
are you talking about those people who listen to country, rap, and pop. Just anything thats popular pretty much. Yes true music fans have a favorite type of music they like.
It's true that most people probably have a favourite genre, but true music fans enjoy a wide enough variety of music that they have something they can listen to and enjoy no matter what mood they are in.
all this talk about genre's is idiotic. who care's if a band or artist is pop/rock/metal/nu-metal/hip-hop/folk-rock/country etc.
WHY DO PEOPLE CARE SO MUCH ABOUT WHAT OTHER PEOPLE ARE LISTENING TO?, and automatically dismiss some kinds of music as being crap. sure, we all have bands that we hate, and styles of music we may not like, but is it really neccessary to resort to the kind of flaming we've seen in this thread.
The worst band in the world will have fans that genuinely think they are the best band in the world, and you just gotta deal with that, let them make their own mistakes. they'll come around eventually, and if they don't.....well......who give a flying fuc..... :rolleyes:
There is no such thing as good or bad music. Just a persons taste in music. :)
dmorgan89
07-30-2003, 06:19 PM
thankyou nikkid.
Amplifier_SFH
07-30-2003, 10:49 PM
Originally posted by Arm@28 July 2003 - 16:17
Post things music related that annoy you. Don't say like "I hate rap" because that is just a personal taste.
You know what I hate?
Remixes. They take a good song and make it sound crappy. Now taking a crappy song and making it sound good there is nothing wrong with that but that's never the case.
Not being able to understand the lyrics. You cant fully understand the words the singer are saying. You can only understand a part of it. This can be fixed by looking up the lyrics and reading them while listening to the song. But I would like to understand what the singer is saying without having to look up it's lyrics.
Shitty quality recordings. Except for St. Anger, the problem of bad production quality usually comes only with basement recordings. Like the stuff you hear on mp3.com. You can have a potentially great song not lived up to it's greatest potential because of bad recording quality. Cost is usually the reason for this but you can always record the music onto your computer using a pirated copy :lol: of Nuendo. That is if you know how to use the software.
That stupid growling in Gothic Metal. The female vocals in gothic metal I usually love but when it comes to the male growls I hate it. It's annoying and I cant understand what he is trying to say anyway. Get rid of the damn growls. Either have all female vocals (no female growling) or have the male singer sing normally
People not knowing what style of music a band is. People calling bands rock when they are not rock. An example would be Linkin Park. I hear people call Linkin Park a rock band all the time. Get your facts straight morons. Nu-metal is not rock.
Anything piss off you? :P
Don't be a hyprocrite (sp?) growling NEVER occurs in gothic metal. Slipknot is not metal either. Visit http://www.n3kr0metal.tk/ for true metal sub genres. High pitched like screams are gothic metal. So don't get mad at people that don't know styles if you yourself do not know them.
ScotchGuy
07-30-2003, 11:04 PM
Originally posted by monkfi5h@29 July 2003 - 12:55
I hate sell outs
*cough* Limp Bizkit *cough*
Ohh and everything dmorgan89 listed isn't in the right category
Evanescane isn't rock or metal...Its pop
Neither is Limp Bizkit and Linkin Park
<_<
I don't mind sell outs at all. Do you expect them to keep making garage music for the rest of their life so that they can please a small amount of fans and struggle to get by? The only time I hate selling out is when the groups songs basically revolve around putting down the "system" and revolting against society and of course marketing. Then they go out and sell out and become part of the "system" and make their money by marketing themselves.
Insane Clown Posse
And talk about a shitty name, seriosuly Insane Clown Posse. It sounds like they're trying so desperately hard to be extreme. Do they think they're hardcore with their queer looking make up? Maybe someone should tell them how idiotic they look prancing around on stage dressed up in their mothers make up.
mogadishu
07-30-2003, 11:07 PM
ive heard a lot of metal songs that are just shitty guitar rifts and growling. Im not saying that all of metal is like this but..
mogadishu
07-30-2003, 11:08 PM
Originally posted by ScotchGuy+30 July 2003 - 18:04--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (ScotchGuy @ 30 July 2003 - 18:04)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-monkfi5h@29 July 2003 - 12:55
I hate sell outs
*cough* Limp Bizkit *cough*
Ohh and everything dmorgan89 listed isn't in the right category
Evanescane isn't rock or metal...Its pop
Neither is Limp Bizkit and Linkin Park
<_<
I don't mind sell outs at all. Do you expect them to keep making garage music for the rest of their life so that they can please a small amount of fans and struggle to get by? The only time I hate selling out is when the groups songs basically revolve around putting down the "system" and revolting against society and of course marketing. Then they go out and sell out and become part of the "system" and make their money by marketing themselves.
Insane Clown Posse
And talk about a shitty name, seriosuly Insane Clown Posse. It sounds like they're trying so desperately hard to be extreme. Do they think they're hardcore with their queer looking make up? Maybe someone should tell them how idiotic they look prancing around on stage dressed up in their mothers make up. [/b][/quote]
well said scotchguy
Originally posted by mogadishu@30 July 2003 - 23:07
ive heard a lot of metal songs that are just shitty guitar rifts and growling. Im not saying that all of metal is like this but..
Ah that's just trash metal. Most good(by good I mean non-thrash) metal doesn't have growling and good guitaring.
emo_fan77
07-31-2003, 03:56 AM
You guys are soooo not listening to the good metal if you rule out anything with "growling." There are soooo many good bands out there that use the growls and screams to enhance the music. Listen to Zao's album "Liberate te ex inferis" and you will see very intriguet music with great vocals. Extol's album "Undeceived" is also a great album with great guitar and drum work. You have to be more open minded!
mogadishu
07-31-2003, 03:57 AM
Those guys sound good, I'll have to check them out.
Adster
07-31-2003, 04:01 AM
Read the list of metal bands I posted eraly their REAL metal ;)
Originally posted by emo_fan77@31 July 2003 - 03:56
You guys are soooo not listening to the good metal if you rule out anything with "growling." There are soooo many good bands out there that use the growls and screams to enhance the music. Listen to Zao's album "Liberate te ex inferis" and you will see very intriguet music with great vocals. Extol's album "Undeceived" is also a great album with great guitar and drum work. You have to be more open minded!
Not everyone likes thrash/black/death metal. :blink: I refer to that type of music as "my brothers music" for obvious reasons.
Except for Blind Guardian(theyre a totally different story), none of my bands singers strain their voice.
(>Zero Cool<)
07-31-2003, 05:10 AM
I hate the way some people figure it gives them the ability to look down on others or judge them because of their music tastes. Some people become very stuck up about 'their' bands. BTW I am very guilty of this :( For something that is an art form that is out there for you to take from it what you will it starts an awful lot of heated arguements, if you don't wanna listen then don't f**kin listen is the way to go. :)
Forget My Name
07-31-2003, 05:20 AM
Originally posted by Arm@28 July 2003 - 21:17
Post things music related that annoy you. Don't say like "I hate rap" because that is just a personal taste.
You know what I hate?
Remixes. They take a good song and make it sound crappy. Now taking a crappy song and making it sound good there is nothing wrong with that but that's never the case.
Not being able to understand the lyrics. You cant fully understand the words the singer are saying. You can only understand a part of it. This can be fixed by looking up the lyrics and reading them while listening to the song. But I would like to understand what the singer is saying without having to look up it's lyrics.
Shitty quality recordings. Except for St. Anger, the problem of bad production quality usually comes only with basement recordings. Like the stuff you hear on mp3.com. You can have a potentially great song not lived up to it's greatest potential because of bad recording quality. Cost is usually the reason for this but you can always record the music onto your computer using a pirated copy :lol: of Nuendo. That is if you know how to use the software.
That stupid growling in Gothic Metal. The female vocals in gothic metal I usually love but when it comes to the male growls I hate it. It's annoying and I cant understand what he is trying to say anyway. Get rid of the damn growls. Either have all female vocals (no female growling) or have the male singer sing normally
People not knowing what style of music a band is. People calling bands rock when they are not rock. An example would be Linkin Park. I hear people call Linkin Park a rock band all the time. Get your facts straight morons. Nu-metal is not rock.
Anything piss off you? :P
whatever, alot of the music i listen to the singer doesnt try to pronounce everthing, but the lyrics are still there...however i do like screaming in music but that goth growl does get annoying
But alot of people who listen to music are sheep and listen to whatever garbage the media throws at them.
Forget My Name
07-31-2003, 05:22 AM
Originally posted by Arm@31 July 2003 - 05:20
But alot of people who listen to music are sheep and listen to whatever garbage the media throws at them.
not me
(>Zero Cool<)
07-31-2003, 05:38 AM
Originally posted by Arm@31 July 2003 - 06:20
But alot of people who listen to music are sheep and listen to whatever garbage the media throws at them.
(Not sure if you ae replying to my point here, sorry if you aren't)
I agree but surely that is up to them and if they enjoy it isn't that the whole idea? I, probably like you, get pissed off when bands I consider to be good don't get the backing I think they deserve and plastic-here one day gone the next-created pop bands do, but you can't blame someone for liking them all you can do is suggest they listen to something else. Again I am guilty of this so this isn't a go at anyone. :)
Celerystalksme
07-31-2003, 05:39 AM
gawd this is still going...
Music is Music...
mogadishu
07-31-2003, 07:33 AM
I hate it when music has noise.
Adster
07-31-2003, 07:52 AM
:sleeping: :sleeping:
mods get the key out
there r just too many things i hate to write in one post
3rd gen noob
07-31-2003, 09:02 AM
Originally posted by Jay@31 July 2003 - 10:00
there r just too many things i hate to write in one post
like sigs which are over the limit...
:P
Celerystalksme
07-31-2003, 09:52 AM
Originally posted by 3rd gen noob+31 July 2003 - 19:02--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (3rd gen noob @ 31 July 2003 - 19:02)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Jay@31 July 2003 - 10:00
there r just too many things i hate to write in one post
like sigs which are over the limit...
:P [/b][/quote]
You just gotta love sarcasm :lol: :lol: :lol:
I like music...all of it pretty much...
Amplifier_SFH
07-31-2003, 10:24 PM
Originally posted by Forget My Name+31 July 2003 - 00:20--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Forget My Name @ 31 July 2003 - 00:20)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Arm@28 July 2003 - 21:17
Post things music related that annoy you. Don't say like "I hate rap" because that is just a personal taste.
You know what I hate?
Remixes. They take a good song and make it sound crappy. Now taking a crappy song and making it sound good there is nothing wrong with that but that's never the case.
Not being able to understand the lyrics. You cant fully understand the words the singer are saying. You can only understand a part of it. This can be fixed by looking up the lyrics and reading them while listening to the song. But I would like to understand what the singer is saying without having to look up it's lyrics.
Shitty quality recordings. Except for St. Anger, the problem of bad production quality usually comes only with basement recordings. Like the stuff you hear on mp3.com. You can have a potentially great song not lived up to it's greatest potential because of bad recording quality. Cost is usually the reason for this but you can always record the music onto your computer using a pirated copy :lol: of Nuendo. That is if you know how to use the software.
That stupid growling in Gothic Metal. The female vocals in gothic metal I usually love but when it comes to the male growls I hate it. It's annoying and I cant understand what he is trying to say anyway. Get rid of the damn growls. Either have all female vocals (no female growling) or have the male singer sing normally
People not knowing what style of music a band is. People calling bands rock when they are not rock. An example would be Linkin Park. I hear people call Linkin Park a rock band all the time. Get your facts straight morons. Nu-metal is not rock.
Anything piss off you? :P
whatever, alot of the music i listen to the singer doesnt try to pronounce everthing, but the lyrics are still there...however i do like screaming in music but that goth growl does get annoying [/b][/quote]
Did anyone both to read my post jesus
GOTHIC DOES NOT HAVE GROWLS THATS DEATH!
Rocktron
07-31-2003, 10:57 PM
I hate noise that people dare to call "music"
(I will not name any style in this case)
Sort of like art (abstract art) you have to ask the artist what it is, and when he/she explains it.., you leave behind, puzzled and confused.
I hate that!
Originally posted by Amplifier_SFH@31 July 2003 - 22:24
GOTHIC DOES NOT HAVE GROWLS THATS DEATH!
:rolleyes: Yeah it does. Heres an example. Within Temptation has a female winger who sings most of the vocals. But a little of the vocals are growls done by one of the band members. Go download Enter or The Other Half and when you hear the male vocals tell me what they are if they aren't growls.
Also ive gotten so used to that little bit of growling that Iam desentized to it. But I would still prefer no growls.
Originally posted by 3rd gen noob+31 July 2003 - 10:02--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (3rd gen noob @ 31 July 2003 - 10:02)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Jay@31 July 2003 - 10:00
there r just too many things i hate to write in one post
like sigs which are over the limit...
:P [/b][/quote]
aint u got nothin better to do
Celerystalksme
08-03-2003, 09:23 AM
Originally posted by Jay+3 August 2003 - 19:13--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Jay @ 3 August 2003 - 19:13)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
Originally posted by 3rd gen noob@31 July 2003 - 10:02
<!--QuoteBegin-Jay@31 July 2003 - 10:00
there r just too many things i hate to write in one post
like sigs which are over the limit...
:P
aint u got nothin better to do [/b][/quote]
It seems like you don't...
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