wouldn't it be great if............

[WarrenBuffet]

If someone made an 0-day tracker similar to TL, but had NO RARS!. I wouldn't mind that the pre time would be slightly less, but frankly, I could care less about pre-time. It would be so great taking out the hassle of un raring things. This really comes into play when unraring dvd-r's and games when all the damn crc error come up or other errors.

[SenorBubbz]

I agree, rars are extremely annoying sometimes. It takes soooooooooooo long to extract.

[fOrUmAs]

IPtorrents have files with and withour rars for movies

[zizo85]

may be it will be good idea

[stoi]

that mean unpacking scene releases and releasing them without giving credit.

also means bigger files to seed/leech and importanly to seed back.

also means only the uploader can seed it, you wont get 10 seeds as soon as its uploaded.

Uploaders wont want the hasstle to download a scene release, unrar it, and then make a torrent of both (if they are an uploader of 2 sites)

tbh, i avoid 1 file torrents like the plague now, i have been hit with to many 99% and not finishing at all, uploader has to then reupload the whole lot, very annoying, also you can get CRC errors on 1 file movies, problem is you dont know there is an error until you are 3/4 the way through the movie and it crashed or skips badly.

Rars ftw for me im afraid, which is why BCG will always be multi rars.

[WarrenBuffet]

good point. AS for other sites, what if no rars became a standard? Then all you have to worry about is giving "credit" which can't be hard....
I'm sure size wouldn't make a HUGE difference.


that mean unpacking scene releases and releasing them without giving credit.

also means bigger files to seed/leech and importanly to seed back.

also means only the uploader can seed it, you wont get 10 seeds as soon as its uploaded.

Uploaders wont want the hasstle to download a scene release, unrar it, and then make a torrent of both (if they are an uploader of 2 sites)

tbh, i avoid 1 file torrents like the plague now, i have been hit with to many 99% and not finishing at all, uploader has to then reupload the whole lot, very annoying, also you can get CRC errors on 1 file movies, problem is you dont know there is an error until you are 3/4 the way through the movie and it crashed or skips badly.

Rars ftw for me im afraid, which is why BCG will always be multi rars.

[mrnobody]

getting scene files, unraring it, and then uploading is troublesome for uploaders.

if only uploaders could bother that much it would be awesome (unless i am unaware of extraordinary easyness that rar files bring)

i personally dislike unraring files. The rar files are of no use but seeding. Beside, it's not like rar decreases any space. When u unrar a file...you will have ~2x size of the original file (rared one and the unrared one).

[aysomc]

it works for bmtv but other then that im not sure if it would work out. like most other things someone would have to do it without knowing if it would work or not and hope for the best. it has a few upsides for us users but as others have said it would be a pain in the ass for the uploaders and those are the last people in the world a tracker would want to piss off.

[mrnobody]

good point. AS for other sites, what if no rars became a standard? Then all you have to worry about is giving "credit" which can't be hard....


KG does not allow rar files (i know it's not scene tracker but just an example) but yet people there do give credit to original ripper...if they dunno who ripped it they often say "thanks to the original upper". So i don't think it's big deal...as long as there is a rule saying members should give credit to original rippers or members are already know what to do.

[Ronnie Coleman]

I have no problem with unraring time. More problematic is that, sometimes, I must unrar two times some archives... Than join files with HJSPlit...

I would like clean files. My vote is against RAR. :)

[nethawk]

Saves alot of time...

SCRU - The Scene Release Unpacker. Automatic extraction of your downloads
http://www.tmoogle.com/scru/

[WarrenBuffet]

TRUE, and IF HEAVY TORRENT USERS HAD MORE HDD SPACE THEY COULD dl more thus making p2p better.

getting scene files, unraring it, and then uploading is troublesome for uploaders.

if only uploaders could bother that much it would be awesome (unless i am unaware of extraordinary easyness that rar files bring)

i personally dislike unraring files. The rar files are of no use but seeding. Beside, it's not like rar decreases any space. When u unrar a file...you will have ~2x size of the original file (rared one and the unrared one).

[1000possibleclaws]

getting scene files, unraring it, and then uploading is troublesome for uploaders.

if only uploaders could bother that much it would be awesome (unless i am unaware of extraordinary easyness that rar files bring)

i personally dislike unraring files. The rar files are of no use but seeding. Beside, it's not like rar decreases any space. When u unrar a file...you will have ~2x size of the original file (rared one and the unrared one).

most rar files I download are dvdr's so i dont really have that problem.. I'll rip the movie and then delete the iso. stoi's point about the lack of seeders is probably the biggest reason why sites arn't doing this. i dont really mind extracting files cause ill either leave the computer for 5 minutes or I'll let it run in the background. The only pain I've ever had with rar files are when they're from a .avi video and they don't piece themselves together automatically, however these arn't scene rips, they were when i used to use rapidshare.

[slimdogp]

bitmetv does it, TDC sometimes, all mp3's are like that.

I think its a good idea for a site that encourages long torrent life. I don't want to keep 1.4gig rars around, plus the avis (if I want to watch it repeatedly or whatever). It sucks for people with small hard drives.

For 0day sites? Rars are fine by me.

For any kind of site trying to keep torrents alive indefinately, uncompressed all the way!

[stoi]

sorry but if your a heavy torrent user, you should realy have plenty of space, saying as though your saving a fortune on the stuff you download anyway.

a soon as the scene says its ok to use 1 file (as in they release it like that) then we will allow it.

also a lot of uploaders download stuff off newsgroups, which is all multi rars (apart from MP3s) but everything else is.

and how long does it take to unrar, about 10 minutes max i would say and thats on a DVD-9 360 game, which in turn gets burnt straight away, and then deleted, saving the rars to seed if need me, so saving a few 100/1000meg of space in the bargain.

sorry but the my HDD isnt big enough just doesnt wash anymore, unless your in outer mongolia or somewhere.

PS: all of BCG torrents are multi rared, and we have torrents going back 14 months (when 2.2 came about) so they cant be from any earlier.

[1000possibleclaws]

bitmetv does it, TDC sometimes, all mp3's are like that.

I think its a good idea for a site that encourages long torrent life. I don't want to keep 1.4gig rars around, plus the avis (if I want to watch it repeatedly or whatever). It sucks for people with small hard drives.

For 0day sites? Rars are fine by me.

For any kind of site trying to keep torrents alive indefinately, uncompressed all the way!



what trackers do you us to get your avi files at that have them compressed? i had the impression mostly iso files are compressed, but not avi files. I could be mistaken though, because I try and never download a movie in any format other than dvdr, unless for some reason i want to watch it sitting at my computer, if i cant find an iso of it, or if its porn. :whistling

[merwais]

IPTorrents can fulfill your needs !

[fatcat69]

if unraring takes too long...then get a faster computer.

Rar ftw!

Plus uTorrent can auto upack...no need for a crappy other program.

[jonny81985]

I dunno i guess im indifferent. My computers unrars files i under 15 seconds so i cant really complain :).

It would be nice for storage though if they came unrared

[Tokeman]

I haven't had any errors since joining TL (my first private tracker). The only ones I did have had fix's promptly uploaded.
I do get bad rar's on newsgroups, but theres par files, so that doesn't matter.
Rar's don't bother me one bit, confuse the simple people, they don't need to be bothered with all this great stuff anyway.

[klink05]

i have no problems with rars at all. it takes barely 10 minutes to unrar a dvdr (less time than if you were to drive to the store and buy it). and it makes it much easier to seed to other 0-day sites. if this were not the case, you would have less seeders on every site, because people would only be able to seed the specific version of the file from that site.
and as far as the space that all the files take up? give me a break, get a new hard drive. i'm not trying to be an ass, but sotrage is so cheap these days that it's dumb not to. yea, i can see how a few years ago, not having enough HDD would be a decent enough argument, but not now. i'm too lazy to check the prices on new egg, but come on, it's barely anything. especially if you are getting something for free in a proven system of distribution

[RoSsoNeRI]

I agree.....RAR's r annoying but there r some benefits of it the main one being is that u can partial seed torrents

[tedsfrozenhead]

as other people have said, storage space is cheap, but bandwidth is not, so unfortunately file size is a limiting factor for many downloads. rars are somewhat annoying, but definitely necessary.

[bikernin]

1) if you start unraring files and then uploading them, it would definitely affect the pretimes.
2) there tend to be 1 or 2 corrupted rars in some releases which are easily fixed easily by just dloadin a few megs. else you would have to redownload the entire file
3) about BMTV, torrents there are rarely over 1 G. for big files its very difficult without rars, not only for uploading but also downloading
4) and if you want 0day apps unrared..there are soo many of them released everyday, it will be a real pain in the ass to download them, extract each and every one of them (most of them have a zip archive inside the rar) and then upload them. this process will take much more time and is practically very unfeasible
Heres why rars are used in the first place..
scene groups release the files on ftp servers. when these files are uploaded to 0day sites and topsites, there may be more than one uploader uploading a particular release (something called as racing). hence its very convenient if each of them uploads a few rars. results in much faster transfers. Also, back when scene groups started using rars, there used to be lots of errors in ftp and fxp transfers. hence it was a much better idea to reupload a single corrupted rar file than the entire release.
bottomline is, rars were not invented for torrents and hence they might have a few drawbacks when it comes to torrenting. but they are here to stay unless scene groups start using torrents as their preferred method of distribution (go figure the chances of that happening!)

[FACE_TO_FACE]

I think stoi have say everything..

[Cruel]

There's actually a new swedish tracker for this.

Haven't checked it out since I don't see the point of it so can't give much of a review :(

[Giveaway]

that mean unpacking scene releases and releasing them without giving credit.

also means bigger files to seed/leech and importanly to seed back.

also means only the uploader can seed it, you wont get 10 seeds as soon as its uploaded.

Uploaders wont want the hasstle to download a scene release, unrar it, and then make a torrent of both (if they are an uploader of 2 sites)

tbh, i avoid 1 file torrents like the plague now, i have been hit with to many 99% and not finishing at all, uploader has to then reupload the whole lot, very annoying, also you can get CRC errors on 1 file movies, problem is you dont know there is an error until you are 3/4 the way through the movie and it crashed or skips badly.

Rars ftw for me im afraid, which is why BCG will always be multi rars.
yes rars help in transferring.
good point stoi