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DrBips
07-31-2003, 09:35 AM
I have been looking through this forum for about an Hour or so now trying to find some sort of application that will fill in the missing information on my mp3 files...I have come to the conclution that All Music Guide is the Best site to find the Info for the tracks but I don't want to take the time to Manually enter all of the Tag information. Is there software that will do this for me? or does anyone know how to write a program that will incorporate the search engine of All music into a program that will search all of your song Titles and then allow you to choose the correct Album and such from the search results on All music Guide and have that automated into the ID3 tag? I could have missed it somewhere on here but I am pretty sure there isn't it doesn't seem to hard in theory yet I do not know how to program that well at all. This could help some of the fake file download problems people have

dumdum
07-31-2003, 01:10 PM
Tag&Rename available @ http://www.el-software.com/MP3/Tag&Rename.htm

you'll find it on KaZaA np :pirate:

mogadishu
07-31-2003, 04:41 PM
I second Tag and Rename, best one out there if you have a little bit of time.

DrBips
08-04-2003, 05:22 AM
I have used Tag and rename to organize my file's and yes it took some time... It doesn't seem like it would be hard to program some software and I have done some limited program work in school with visual basic I just do not know how to incorporate a web site and use some sort of a standard form that it can read into that......My question remains the same? Is there an easy way or do I need to take the time to program it myself and save everyone from the horrors of renamed Id3 tags of the P2P network.

-Dr. Bips

the_faceman
08-04-2003, 05:27 AM
like the guys already said, Tag&Rename does exactly what you are asking.

Once you have the correct files from an album, you can use Tag&Rename to tag them using either AllMusic.com or the freedb database. Very simple, and very quick once you get the hang of it. you can tag a whole album in under a minute, with artwork incorporated, if you know what you are doing.

like so (using AllMusic.com
http://www.softpointer.com/images/TRAll.gif

or using the CDDB thing
http://www.softpointer.com/images/TRCddb.gif

edit* i just noticed you said you used it previously, but then you go on to say about incorporating a website (such as allmusic.com), Tag&Rename has used allmusic.com for as long as i can remember, so either you didn't use the program very well, or you used a very early version.

Get it again, read the intructions, and you can re-tag your collection real fast.

Version 3 is better in my opinion, but its a release candidate just now, and as such if you are gonna be naughty and not pay for it it'll be harder to find for this version.

Taken from Softpointer.com (http://www.softpointer.com)


Tag&Rename is a powerful, easy-to-use program for organizing and archiving your library of music files. Its solid design handles both the .mp3 and .vqf music formats. With Tag&Rename, you can quickly and easily rename your music while also editing the embedded tag data used by popular music players - both ID3 and ID3 v2 formats. Tag&Rename makes it easy to edit existing tag information, update for new tagging standards, or write tags for music files which had no previously embedded tags (e.g. bootlegs). Tag&Rename simplifies the boring and time-consuming task of updating tag information for your music by allowing you to quickly get information from the CDDB1 database or www.allmusic.com site. It can also write or edit tag information based on your music libraries file structure (artist\album\title.mp3 for example). Often many files can be processed with a few clicks using Tag&Rename's built-in automated features.

This program is also very useful for creating playlists - with features like recursive subfolders support and unique file listing. The versatility of Tag&Rename makes it easy for anyone to harness the power of it's features, while also being highly configurable for the advanced user. In addition, we have provided clearly written help files that will answer any questions you might have as well as descriptions of built-in commands to speed up your understanding and use of the program.

3rd gen noob
08-04-2003, 05:42 AM
ok...don't shout at me if this is an obvious question...

is it possible to use tag & rename to properly name tracks which i have ripped to my comp that have no names currently?

i no longer have the cd's i ripped them from, mostly older albums

any replies would be great, thanks

Mr. Blunt
08-04-2003, 05:43 AM
Windows Media Player 9 (WMP9) has a built in Tag changer. Theres a feature that adds Tag Info by itself after you download the file.

the_faceman
08-04-2003, 05:47 AM
yes, it has a rename function, the simplest way is to tag the files using either the cddb/freedb database or allmusic.com. (using the program of course - not manually), then you can rename the files using the info from the tags. for example in the rename field you could have %6 - %1 - %2 which would take the information from the tags and create Track# - Artist - Title of Track. That might sound confusing, but once you spend half an hour reading the help file and getting to know the program, it's very simple.

once i had re-tagged and re-named my entire collection to

Artist - Track - Title

i decided i didn't like it, and was able to re-arrange my entire collection to

Track - Artist - Title

in a very short time.

3rd gen noob
08-04-2003, 05:50 AM
thanks for the quick replies chaps

i'll go and read the help file...

you know it's funny how frustrated some newbies make me feel....but now i know what they feel like asking what are apparently easy questions

i must take the advice i often give out and go do some reading...:(

Afronaut
08-04-2003, 09:03 AM
Due to the Long File Name errors one might get with Nero etc.
as burning backups of Your Collection,
I have chosen

Track - Title on the filename,
Artist - Year - Album on foldername plus
one folder with Artistname holding all the albums.

T&R for Tags, OrangeCD for organizing what you have in and out of PC,
SoulSeek to get the Albums.

WMP is used only listening, or Winamp.
WMP gets the Info from the net, but your Album Pics are sort of Hidden Files on
your HD,
I like T&R better as one can DL the Album cover at the same time as Tagging.
Covers comes handy when making a Database with Orange.

Cheers:
-GS-

DrBips
08-04-2003, 11:01 PM
Thanks for the Help I had used a previous version of Tag and Rename...I had tried using the functions including all music,etc... however It was either my error or some other type of problem. My music files are all in the same folder..will this cause a problem? and if I don't have the whole album willit still be able to tag and rename them? IS there a way to allow windows xp to read the tag infor and sisplay it in the folder containing music or is just best to use a program to view your collection. I guess everyone wants a easy one click fix to everything...sometimes it takes a minute to figure things out.


- Dr. Bips

the_faceman
08-04-2003, 11:40 PM
most tagging programs are only useful if you have them in folders for each album, in the correct order.

If however, you have all your files named by the same standard (and if they are all in the same folder then i imagine they should all be named "Artist - Title"), you can use Get Tags From Filename and create a rule to fill in the Artist and Title fields of the tags.

If you right click on the folder you store your music in on Windows XP, you can go to the Customize tab, and from there change it to the "Music" option, and this will then display the tags when u look in the folder. By right clicking the bar that goes along the top like this

Name Size Type Artist Album Title Year etc etc

you can choose which attributes to display.


hope this helps.

DrBips
08-04-2003, 11:45 PM
Thanks again how might I create that rule

the_faceman
08-04-2003, 11:51 PM
if you are using Version 3 RC1 then all you have to do is navigate to the music folder using T&R, then clicking on the Get Tags From Filename (F4) tab.

where it says file name mask, enter %1 - %2

makes sure all the music files are selected (have blue ticks in them) - there is a button to Select All Files, on one of the toolbars.

now click Test, and it'll show you how it will enter the tags. if it's satisfactory, then click "Write Tags" on the box that popped up when you clicked Test.


Remember - this will only work for any files that are named in the Artist - Title format.

DrBips
08-05-2003, 12:44 AM
OK I think I see my problem here I allready named them to just artist track but I don't have complete albums or any orther info in the Id3 tag except that ....How do I find the rest of the information for the track ex. album, track number? Also I dont have complete albums just the songs I liek from them.

the_faceman
08-05-2003, 01:48 AM
if u don't have the full album it becomes difficult. there is no database for single songs, it would confuse the programs too much. you'd be quicker inputting the info yourself. if you don't have the full album i don't see the need to know the track number etc.

you can edit tags in Winamp, Windows Media Player, Musicmatch Jukebox, and even in Windows XP itself. Do it manually if you really want it done, because for single songs you won't have much luck finding a programs that can do it for you much quicker (if at all) than you can yourself.

Adster
08-05-2003, 02:21 AM
ummm I use Orange CD

dncgbr
08-05-2003, 03:32 AM
I am a fanatic about organizing my music and have tried numerous programs over the last couple of months. I have been using musicmatch for four months now but have just discovered media monkey last night. I love it! It is completely user friendly and does everything other applications do except way easier to understand.

Give it a try. www.mediamonkey.com

DrBips
08-05-2003, 04:01 AM
I have found that eJukebox will find the Album for me but you must first play the song for it to look up the album

Adster
08-05-2003, 04:25 AM
MY HD is a MESS ATM need to organise it

DrBips
08-19-2003, 10:59 PM
Musicmatch Pro was worth the 20 dollars. It retrieves the info for all of the fields plus the album art for single songs. Wish I had known that it did that before I wasted alot of time on this forum. However it is the best I have used regarding looking up the track information for music. For anyone who is willing to spend 20 bucks.

CrumbCat
08-19-2003, 11:03 PM
MusicMatch Pro does get the job done - and it's n00b-friendly too.

I would recommend it to those who need something relatively simple to use.

CrumbCat
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DrBips
08-19-2003, 11:05 PM
Again good for some things not for all