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golfchink
08-01-2003, 06:10 PM
What's the hardest core rap out there? anything that sounds like bonecrusher

3rd gen noob
08-01-2003, 06:15 PM
Ja Rule has to be in the top five for me

:P

Celerystalksme
08-01-2003, 06:28 PM
Originally posted by 3rd gen noob@2 August 2003 - 04:15
Ja Rule has to be in the top five for me

:P
Nelly aswell :lol:

3rd gen noob
08-01-2003, 06:30 PM
Originally posted by Celerystalksme+1 August 2003 - 19:28--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Celerystalksme @ 1 August 2003 - 19:28)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-3rd gen noob@2 August 2003 - 04:15
Ja Rule has to be in the top five for me

:P
Nelly aswell :lol: [/b][/quote]
forgot about p diddy there...:P

Celerystalksme
08-01-2003, 06:34 PM
Originally posted by 3rd gen noob+2 August 2003 - 04:30--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (3rd gen noob @ 2 August 2003 - 04:30)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
Originally posted by Celerystalksme@1 August 2003 - 19:28
<!--QuoteBegin-3rd gen noob@2 August 2003 - 04:15
Ja Rule has to be in the top five for me

:P
Nelly aswell :lol:
forgot about p diddy there...:P [/b][/quote]
and NAS

:lol: :lol: :lol:

3rd gen noob
08-01-2003, 06:35 PM
Originally posted by Celerystalksme+1 August 2003 - 19:34--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Celerystalksme @ 1 August 2003 - 19:34)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
Originally posted by 3rd gen noob@2 August 2003 - 04:30

Originally posted by Celerystalksme@1 August 2003 - 19:28
<!--QuoteBegin-3rd gen noob@2 August 2003 - 04:15
Ja Rule has to be in the top five for me

:P
Nelly aswell :lol:
forgot about p diddy there...:P
and NAS

:lol: :lol: :lol: [/b][/quote]
hmmm...disagree with the nas one myself...

what about lil&#39; bow wow :P

Celerystalksme
08-01-2003, 06:37 PM
Originally posted by 3rd gen noob+2 August 2003 - 04:35--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (3rd gen noob @ 2 August 2003 - 04:35)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
Originally posted by Celerystalksme@1 August 2003 - 19:34

Originally posted by 3rd gen noob@2 August 2003 - 04:30

Originally posted by Celerystalksme@1 August 2003 - 19:28
<!--QuoteBegin-3rd gen noob@2 August 2003 - 04:15
Ja Rule has to be in the top five for me

:P
Nelly aswell :lol:
forgot about p diddy there...:P
and NAS

:lol: :lol: :lol:
hmmm...disagree with the nas one myself...

what about lil&#39; bow wow :P [/b][/quote]
damn you coming up with good ones <_< <_<

ummm Lil Romeo

3rd gen noob
08-01-2003, 06:40 PM
controversial one here...

Mike Shinoda (spelling)

:P

Celerystalksme
08-01-2003, 06:41 PM
Originally posted by 3rd gen noob@2 August 2003 - 04:40
controversial one here...

Mike Shinoda (spelling)

:P
I don&#39;t care...i know he ain&#39;t the best rapper :lol: :lol: :lol:

meh im over all the linkin park bashing and whining...all i can say is that i&#39;ll still listen to them

ummm will go for...MA&#036;E

3rd gen noob
08-01-2003, 06:46 PM
Originally posted by Celerystalksme+1 August 2003 - 19:41--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Celerystalksme @ 1 August 2003 - 19:41)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-3rd gen noob@2 August 2003 - 04:40
controversial one here...

Mike Shinoda (spelling)

:P
I don&#39;t care...i know he ain&#39;t the best rapper :lol: :lol: :lol:

meh im over all the linkin park bashing and whining...all i can say is that i&#39;ll still listen to them

ummm will go for...MA&#036;E [/b][/quote]
damn, i had him lined up

what about Madonna on her last song?? :P

does that qualify?

p.s. hope you know i&#39;m kidding about linkin park btw...

stumpymge
08-01-2003, 06:52 PM
Lol, Nelly and Jarule are not hardcore&#33; They are Hollywood-ized rappers ..just like 50 cent.

NAS maybe..Wu Tang Clan is probably the most "hardcore" of the "well knowns" in my opinion. David Banner is pretty hardcore IMO and Chingy is allright too...to name some popular ones.


Notorious B.I.G., Scarface, Dr. Dre, Ice Cube, Ice-T. NWA, and KRS 1 aren&#39;t as popular these days as they used to be but they are all definiteley hardcore in my book.


Stumpy

Celerystalksme
08-01-2003, 06:52 PM
Originally posted by 3rd gen noob+2 August 2003 - 04:46--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (3rd gen noob @ 2 August 2003 - 04:46)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
Originally posted by Celerystalksme@1 August 2003 - 19:41
<!--QuoteBegin-3rd gen noob@2 August 2003 - 04:40
controversial one here...

Mike Shinoda (spelling)

:P
I don&#39;t care...i know he ain&#39;t the best rapper :lol: :lol: :lol:

meh im over all the linkin park bashing and whining...all i can say is that i&#39;ll still listen to them

ummm will go for...MA&#036;E
damn, i had him lined up

what about Madonna on her last song?? :P

does that qualify?

p.s. hope you know i&#39;m kidding about linkin park btw... [/b][/quote]
tis all good...i thought you were joking...not 100% sure

yeah saw you mention p. diddy...so thought id have to add a part of the family..

ummmmm...Mystikal

3rd gen noob
08-01-2003, 06:54 PM
Originally posted by stumpymge@1 August 2003 - 19:52
Lol, Nelly and Jarule are not hardcore&#33; They are Hollywood-ized rappers ..just like 50 cent.

NAS maybe..Wu Tang is probably the most of the "well knowns" in my opinion. David Banner is pretty hardcore IMO and Chingy is allright too...to name some popular ones.


Notorious B.I.G., Scarface, Dr. Dre, Ice Cube, Ice-T. NWA, and KRS 1 aren&#39;t as popular these days as they used to be but they are all definiteley hardcore in my book.


Stumpy
we are only kidding...

i think scarface is one of the best rappers out there

the fix is in my top 5 albums i have...

and now back to the sillyness...:P

shaquille o&#39;neal (spelling again)

stumpymge
08-01-2003, 06:56 PM
we are only kidding...






oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooohhh&#33;


;)

Celerystalksme
08-01-2003, 06:58 PM
Originally posted by 3rd gen noob+2 August 2003 - 04:54--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (3rd gen noob @ 2 August 2003 - 04:54)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-stumpymge@1 August 2003 - 19:52
Lol, Nelly and Jarule are not hardcore&#33; They are Hollywood-ized rappers ..just like 50 cent.

NAS maybe..Wu Tang is probably the most of the "well knowns" in my opinion.&nbsp; David Banner is pretty hardcore IMO and Chingy is allright too...to name some popular ones.


Notorious B.I.G., Scarface, Dr. Dre, Ice Cube, Ice-T. NWA, and KRS 1&nbsp; aren&#39;t as popular these days as they used to be but they are all definiteley hardcore in my book.


Stumpy
we are only kidding...

i think scarface is one of the best rappers out there

the fix is in my top 5 albums i have...

and now back to the sillyness...:P

shaquille o&#39;neal (spelling again) [/b][/quote]
shaquille o&#39;neal...now come on....how am i gonna beat this...

ok here we go...im off after this...

Vanilla Ice :lol:

3rd gen noob
08-01-2003, 07:07 PM
mc hammer&#33;&#33;&#33;

:P

Celerystalksme
08-01-2003, 09:16 PM
Originally posted by 3rd gen noob@2 August 2003 - 05:07
mc hammer&#33;&#33;&#33;

:P
damn you...

LL Cool J :lol:

Afronaut
08-01-2003, 10:40 PM
What is Rap? Or Core?
Or all these Genres for all that matter? :P

Does someone really knows how many Genres of music is out there?

Im totally off track, and not keeping any
since with any new Artists, there&#39;s about to be New Genre....

Cheeers:
Heavy, not yet Jazzy, but on the way, alltho still likes heavy-rap-hiphop--heavy-new-wave-jazz-rock-rock&#39;n&#39;roll-rockabilly-folk-pop-CORE-skinny-fat-indeep-mellow-BS-anal-kind-classical-GS-....

Do i make myself clear here? :lol:

golfchink
08-01-2003, 11:20 PM
don&#39;t forget jay-z.

mynamehere
08-02-2003, 12:01 AM
Grindcore-Hop?

mogadishu
08-02-2003, 02:32 AM
Originally posted by stumpymge@1 August 2003 - 13:52
Lol, Nelly and Jarule are not hardcore&#33; They are Hollywood-ized rappers ..just like 50 cent.

NAS maybe..Wu Tang Clan is probably the most "hardcore" of the "well knowns" in my opinion. David Banner is pretty hardcore IMO and Chingy is allright too...to name some popular ones.


Notorious B.I.G., Scarface, Dr. Dre, Ice Cube, Ice-T. NWA, and KRS 1 aren&#39;t as popular these days as they used to be but they are all definiteley hardcore in my book.


Stumpy
amen.. thats the truth.

mogadishu
08-02-2003, 02:33 AM
Originally posted by golfchink@1 August 2003 - 18:20
don&#39;t forget jay-z.
not hardcore at all.

Adster
08-02-2003, 03:11 AM
wasn&#39;t this ment to be Hardcore rap? :huh:

mogadishu
08-02-2003, 08:20 AM
I thought so.

FrStyleKing
08-02-2003, 08:41 AM
NWA, 50 Cent, Cash Money, and definately 3-6 mafia and project pat. you&#39;ll be scared to drive around after you listen to them.

3rd gen noob
08-02-2003, 04:11 PM
M.O.P.

ghost944
08-02-2003, 04:26 PM
Cormega
freeway
Ghostface Killah
Gza
Hot Boys
Killer Mike
Lox
Redman
Sticky Fingaz
Wu-Tang Clan
:) :)

mogadishu
08-02-2003, 05:06 PM
What do you mean by hardcore anyway.. someone who puts on a front to pretend to be hardcore (50 Cent) or someone who really is (NWA, Public Enemy). I think hardcore doesnt mean getting shot 9 times, it means rapping about shit besides bitches and drugs, and thats what the quality rappers do.

3rd gen noob
08-02-2003, 05:08 PM
Originally posted by mogadishu@2 August 2003 - 18:06
What do you mean by hardcore anyway.. someone who puts on a front to pretend to be hardcore (50 Cent) or someone who really is (NWA, Public Enemy). I think hardcore doesnt mean getting shot 9 times, it means rapping about shit besides bitches and drugs, and thats what the quality rappers do.
i couldn&#39;t agree more

50 cent may have been shot 9 times, may have been a drug dealer, whatever, but in comparison to some of the rappers listed here, he&#39;s as bubblegum as Ja Rule...:P

ghost944
08-02-2003, 05:18 PM
Ja Rule is a girl ;)

mogadishu
08-02-2003, 05:23 PM
agree 100%.

Celerystalksme
08-02-2003, 06:21 PM
Wonders if people really took 3rd gen and myself&#39;s rant at the start seriously or not...cause it was a joke...*duh* ;)

mogadishu
08-02-2003, 06:22 PM
lol yea.. i didnt think you were that silly.

Celerystalksme
08-02-2003, 06:29 PM
Originally posted by mogadishu@3 August 2003 - 04:22
lol yea.. i didnt think you were that silly.
I dunno...bubba sparxx is gangstar tough :lol:

mogadishu
08-02-2003, 06:30 PM
werd.

Celerystalksme
08-02-2003, 06:32 PM
Originally posted by mogadishu@3 August 2003 - 04:30
werd.
Fo Shizzle <_<

johnnytightlips2
08-02-2003, 06:37 PM
i agree totaly with everybody regarding 50 cent, just because he got shot 9 times doesnt mean he can rap and the only way he got famous cuz he made fun of ja rule, and there was a time when everybody liked ja rule then suddenly 50 cent came into the picture and dissed him and now everybody hates ja rule. and artists/groups like scarface, run dmc, nwa, afrika bambaataa are the real stars.

3rd gen noob
08-02-2003, 06:43 PM
in the words of eminem "It ain&#39;t gangsta to get shot"

mogadishu
08-02-2003, 06:44 PM
and how 50 cent was all underground.. and somehow everyone says they knew about him 5 yrs ago before he was big. its so annoying.

johnnytightlips2
08-02-2003, 06:46 PM
thats another thing everybody like praises 50 cent now but when u ask them how was 50 cent 5 years ago, ppl are like "HUH&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;"

3rd gen noob
08-02-2003, 06:47 PM
Originally posted by mogadishu@2 August 2003 - 19:44
and how 50 cent was all underground.. and somehow everyone says they knew about him 5 yrs ago before he was big. its so annoying.
apparently eminem knew about 50 in the middle of production of the eminem show

the first i heard of 50 was "how to rob"

i still have that on cassette, but that wasn&#39;t 5 years ago anyway.
probably 2 years or so...something like that

mogadishu
08-02-2003, 06:48 PM
Yea.. things like this..

you ask someone if tupac and eminem ever collaborated.. its crazy i just found out they did.

3rd gen noob
08-02-2003, 06:56 PM
Originally posted by mogadishu@2 August 2003 - 19:48
Yea.. things like this..

you ask someone if tupac and eminem ever collaborated.. its crazy i just found out they did.
are there any collabs between em and pac other than murder murder?

there are quite a few posthumous collabs though...50 cent and big, 50 cent and pac are two of the most recent

a lot of people can&#39;t remember/don&#39;t know that pac and big collabed a few times either

Celerystalksme
08-02-2003, 07:02 PM
Originally posted by 3rd gen noob+3 August 2003 - 04:56--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (3rd gen noob @ 3 August 2003 - 04:56)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-mogadishu@2 August 2003 - 19:48
Yea.. things like this..

you ask someone if tupac and eminem ever collaborated.. its crazy i just found out they did.
are there any collabs between em and pac other than murder murder?

there are quite a few posthumous collabs though...50 cent and big, 50 cent and pac are two of the most recent

a lot of people can&#39;t remember/don&#39;t know that pac and big collabed a few times either [/b][/quote]
tupac is really the man :)

3rd gen noob
08-02-2003, 07:07 PM
Originally posted by Celerystalksme@2 August 2003 - 20:02
tupac is really the man :)
i agree totally

tupac is the best, most accomplished rapper there ever was and ever will be.

eminem may sell more, big may have been a slightly better lyricist (don&#39;t flame that please), but pac was just the best

words fail me (unusually) but pac was just the shit

imported_el-producto
08-02-2003, 07:54 PM
2pac was alright but wasnt even a thug or anything like everyone says

if you want an actual hardcore rapper check out x-raided. this nigga is serving a prison sentence for murder and recorded a few albums from prison. also 50/50 lil twin...this boy is serving a life sentence. scarface is wack as shit now but he was good in the geto boys and some of his early shit was tight

olibomb
08-02-2003, 11:36 PM
X-raided sounds awful, who would want to listen 2 a murderer???? <_< :angry:

Lamsey
08-02-2003, 11:38 PM
Woo hoo, I&#39;m a violent piece of scum, buy my records.

3rd gen noob
08-02-2003, 11:39 PM
Originally posted by olibomb@3 August 2003 - 00:36
X-raided sounds awful, who would want to listen 2 a murderer???? <_<&nbsp; :angry:
have you ever listened to a speech by the leader of your country??

chances are, they are a murderer too

<_<

3rd gen noob
08-02-2003, 11:40 PM
Originally posted by Lamsey@3 August 2003 - 00:38
Woo hoo, I&#39;m a violent piece of scum, buy my records.
you&#39;ve got me sold

what are your tracks called?

mogadishu
08-02-2003, 11:51 PM
Originally posted by 3rd gen noob+2 August 2003 - 18:39--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (3rd gen noob @ 2 August 2003 - 18:39)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-olibomb@3 August 2003 - 00:36
X-raided sounds awful, who would want to listen 2 a murderer???? <_<&nbsp; :angry:
have you ever listened to a speech by the leader of your country??

chances are, they are a murderer too

<_< [/b][/quote]
Too true.

ghost944
08-02-2003, 11:51 PM
Notorious gangsta rapper X-Raided was born Anarae Jones in Waco, TX, and raised primarily in Sacramento, CA. Shortly after releasing his 1992 debut LP Psycho Active, he was convicted on murder charges -- in fact, the album&#39;s violent lyrics were even cited as evidence at the trial. While languishing in prison, X-Raided managed to record another album entirely over the telephone, a painstaking process eventually yielding 1995&#39;s Xorcist. Unforgiven followed four years later and Initiation was issued in early 2001. ~ Jason Ankeny, All Music Guide ;)

olibomb
08-02-2003, 11:54 PM
Thanx very much ghost ;) . the difference is i dont choose 2 listen 2 the leader of my country

ghost944
08-03-2003, 12:09 AM
does anyone have a hash or a link to one of X-Raideds songs from the Initiation album? because i want to see if he is any good ;)

imported_el-producto
08-03-2003, 06:45 AM
hahaa fucking idiots

mogadishu
08-03-2003, 06:46 AM
Originally posted by el-producto@3 August 2003 - 01:45
hahaa fucking idiots
???

Celerystalksme
08-03-2003, 06:52 AM
Originally posted by el-producto@3 August 2003 - 16:45
hahaa fucking idiots
OMG he sounds like Ja Rule...

Adster
08-03-2003, 06:56 AM
Really I would have said Fred Durst

Celerystalksme
08-03-2003, 06:57 AM
Originally posted by Hogster@3 August 2003 - 16:56
Really I would have said Fred Durst
i wasn&#39;t gonna be that harsh...

Adster
08-03-2003, 06:59 AM
sorry for being harsh :(

mogadishu
08-03-2003, 06:59 AM
no, no one can come close to durst.

Jay
08-03-2003, 09:02 AM
the most hardcore rap has got to be by project pat, and 36 mafia alright too

leave no trace
08-03-2003, 11:17 AM
Almost all Memphis rap is extremely hard.
Kingpin Skinny Pimp, Playa Fly, 8 Ball & MJG
There&#39;s the large Hypnotize crew; Three Six, Project Pat, The Kaze

In the Midwest; Twista, Eminem, Dayton Family, ICP
West Coast; NWA, Ice T, Mac Mall, Brotha Lynch Hung
East Coast? I like Kool Keith&#39;s music(Dr. Octagon), not so much g or thug, but bizarre and unpredictable.

The craziest of all, probably some old Geto Boys. A guy I know saw them live years ago, he said Bushwick Bill was on stage dressed like Chucky from Childs Play. That is hardcore.

Adster
08-03-2003, 11:24 AM
what about Rage Against the Machine

olibomb
08-03-2003, 12:20 PM
Aren&#39;t Rage Against the Machine rock?

Celerystalksme
08-03-2003, 12:29 PM
Originally posted by olibomb@3 August 2003 - 22:20
Aren&#39;t Rage Against the Machine rock?
not really...

soopaman
08-03-2003, 05:10 PM
Originally posted by Celerystalksme+3 August 2003 - 13:29--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Celerystalksme @ 3 August 2003 - 13:29)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-olibomb@3 August 2003 - 22:20
Aren&#39;t Rage Against the Machine rock?
not really... [/b][/quote]

They ain&#39;t exactly Rap either&#33;&#33;&#33;

As for hardcore I don&#39;t think you can get tougher than KWAME (for those who remember him)&#33;&#33;&#33; Numero uno hardcore rapper&#33;&#33; Tougher than 50 cent&#33;&#33; :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

mogadishu
08-03-2003, 06:32 PM
Definitely Pink Floyd.

joseyjos
10-01-2008, 01:29 AM
It all depends on your defination of hardcore rap.

You have club rap like, Nelly.
You have gutta rap like most of 3 six mafia, and all of Project Pat.
And then you also have Dope Boy Rap like what the south is doing. Lil Wayne and Such.

So it really depends on your defination.