Should Acct trades be allowed here?

[grimms]

It doesn't matter how productive of a member you are. Trading accounts is vile. You did not earn that account and you don't know what evils your letting into your community. It's like letting complete stranger into your home. Risks are now involved with that. I'm not as adamant, when it comes to invite trading (But will refrain from trading invites as well, have for awhile now and see why it's frowned upon as well). I would say to each it's own, but in the end would that show, that you care for your community? Whether you chat in the forums or not is not the point i'm trying to make when I say community. I mean the overall tracker as a whole.

[Rumblin]

i dont see the problem, as long as both people are productive members of the community.

How can one be productive if they trade away the account and break tracker rules?

That would be counter productive, would it not? (cant really be productive if you use the tracker as a bargaining chip.)

if i can trade my ftn acc for 4 puertorican hookers, id do it...

[supper]

@supper
you know what,buddy?
I never tried to make friends to get invites.
most of the invites i got here.I got from ordinary giveaways
and 2 of them i requested my self and in both occasions i've been invited by tracker staff.
there are 2 incidents that a fellow member here that offered me an invite.
one of them ended up with a big misunderstanding and i lost a friend.
the other was offered to a new born tracker at the time which now one of the fast growing one ever.

what i mean that.you don't make friends to get invites.
all you need is to be your self.If you see your self as a trader so be it.
if you see that you don't like this trading thing and like to participate in the forums and in the giveaways so be it.
Bottom line.making friends to get invites is much worse than trading in my opinion.
It's something like scamming peopleyea exactly i agree with the red lines and u can add also those ppl who trying to acting like anti traders to get free invites from the staff and those ones for me just like cheaters coz they just cheat on thier selves and on the tracker staff and the bammer thing is many staffers and many anti traders think they are for real but what i can say but plz ppl stop say make friends ok but u make me feel like all traders try to make enemies here of course we all have friends here already its something not need advice and its relly not about make friends or not its about any one have what u need? thats the problem not all ur friends have what u looking for. but plz stop saying make friends to get invites coz many ppl get u wrong.

[SAM]

I voted yes on principle , people forget this site is filesharing . I'v been sharing software for over 15 years some of it has been Warez , Rapidshare , Bi torrent , people here or friends disks ( thats disks ..... ) and now I'm told no way Peat don't share your Bit account here .


What a no brainer ! Not for me to decide tho as I'm a fucking thief with a conscience .We never had these problems before the Bit forum with the the As The Tummy Turns posts . Fuck em thats their problem and screw the Community Reps too but at least give them the right to fight back with stars or the right to protect their community . I'm fine with that .


Sorry for the long winded post but times do change don't they .

you know.Peat
I always finds a joy reading your posts but this post killed all the joy.
trading accounts is bad for many reasons already said in many posts and threads before.
no one told you not to share your account.
If the tracker rules allow sharing or multi ips so do it with your friends and people you trust.
but don't give it to a total stranger who may scam someone or cheat under your name.


@SUPPER

"making friends" is a sentence that always misinterprets.
it means simply to be a part of the community here.
see.there are certain members here that if they post in any high level giveaway or request something.they will get what they want 100%
why?
because they are a part of this community.people trust them and know them.
that's what making friends means.

[supper]

I voted yes on principle , people forget this site is filesharing . I'v been sharing software for over 15 years some of it has been Warez , Rapidshare , Bi torrent , people here or friends disks ( thats disks ..... ) and now I'm told no way Peat don't share your Bit account here .


What a no brainer ! Not for me to decide tho as I'm a fucking thief with a conscience .We never had these problems before the Bit forum with the As The Tummy Turns posts . Fuck em thats their problem and screw the Community Reps too but at least give them the right to fight back with stars or the right to protect their community . I'm fine with that .


Sorry for the long winded post but times do change don't they .u are the best:)

and agien just alittel advice to any trader u will vote no for accounts trader today and towmoro u will vote no either for invites accounts

u will get ban in any way if any staffer catch u tradeing accounts or invites

if fst want to stop tradeing accounts then stop it for elite trackers i mean like trackers with small community and with staff relly dont like tradeing accounts coz belive me no use for tradeing accounts there coz it will be disabled sooner or later so no need to trade accounts for those.

last word just let the ppl decide what they want coz they know exactly what they need if u will stop tradeing accounts here they will trade it in some where else

invites traders or accounts traders both will be disabled by the staffso no need to even vote by yes or no.

[Rumblin]

I voted yes on principle , people forget this site is filesharing . I'v been sharing software for over 15 years some of it has been Warez , Rapidshare , Bi torrent , people here or friends disks ( thats disks ..... ) and now I'm told no way Peat don't share your Bit account here .


What a no brainer ! Not for me to decide tho as I'm a fucking thief with a conscience .We never had these problems before the Bit forum with the As The Tummy Turns posts . Fuck em thats their problem and screw the Community Reps too but at least give them the right to fight back with stars or the right to protect their community . I'm fine with that .


Sorry for the long winded post but times do change don't they .u are the best:)

and agien just alittel advice to any trader u will vote no for accounts trader today and towmoro u will vote no either for invites accounts

u will get ban in any way if any staffer catch u tradeing accounts or invites

if fst want to stop tradeing accounts then stop it for elite trackers i mean like trackers with small community and with staff relly dont like tradeing accounts coz belive me no use for tradeing accounts there coz it will be disabled sooner or later so no need to trade accounts for those.

last word just let the ppl decide what they want coz they know exactly what they need if u will stop tradeing accounts here they will trade it in some where else

invites traders or accounts traders both will be disabled by the staffso no need to even vote by yes or no.

well dude, have you ever stopped and realized why staff dont like traders? or has your ignorance blinded you?

[peat moss]

I voted yes on principle , people forget this site is filesharing . I'v been sharing software for over 15 years some of it has been Warez , Rapidshare , Bi torrent , people here or friends disks ( thats disks ..... ) and now I'm told no way Peat don't share your Bit account here .


What a no brainer ! Not for me to decide tho as I'm a fucking thief with a conscience .We never had these problems before the Bit forum with the the As The Tummy Turns posts . Fuck em thats their problem and screw the Community Reps too but at least give them the right to fight back with stars or the right to protect their community . I'm fine with that .


Sorry for the long winded post but times do change don't they .

you know.Peat
I always finds a joy reading your posts but this post killed all the joy.
trading accounts is bad for many reasons already said in many posts and threads before.
no one told you not to share your account.
If the tracker rules allow sharing or multi ips so do it with your friends and people you trust.
but don't give it to a total stranger who may scam someone or cheat under your name.


@SUPPER

"making friends" is a sentence that always misinterprets.
it means simply to be a part of the community here.
see.there are certain members here that if they post in any high level giveaway or request something.they will get what they want 100%
why?
because they are a part of this community.people trust them and know them.
that's what making friends means.



Sorry I thought the "No Brainer " was a dead give away , I'm always confused with the Bit forum . I think most are Bedwetters constantly complaining about getting ripped off , it's hard to understand when I'v always given my invites away . :lol:

[supper]

u are the best:)

and agien just alittel advice to any trader u will vote no for accounts trader today and towmoro u will vote no either for invites accounts

u will get ban in any way if any staffer catch u tradeing accounts or invites

if fst want to stop tradeing accounts then stop it for elite trackers i mean like trackers with small community and with staff relly dont like tradeing accounts coz belive me no use for tradeing accounts there coz it will be disabled sooner or later so no need to trade accounts for those.

last word just let the ppl decide what they want coz they know exactly what they need if u will stop tradeing accounts here they will trade it in some where else

invites traders or accounts traders both will be disabled by the staffso no need to even vote by yes or no.

well dude, have you ever stopped and realized why staff dont like traders? or has your ignorance blinded you?well clover staff hate traders coz they think we just trade for fun not just to get what we are need there is a fucken idiots traders around who relly trade for fun i cant deny but i tell u what staff before one year ago trusted in traders and they was doing some giveaways here for every one!!!!! not for anti traders only like now and many of those traders didnt disappointed them i belive and i am one of them but now staffers relly just helping anti traders only the fake and true ones now i am trader if i will try to pm any of those staff asking for invite he will say no coz u are trader even if i will promised him and i swear i will keep that invite to my personal use he wont even belive me there no trust between staffers and the half of this forum and this just makeing this community falling apart so why i should care about CR or GUR if its not give any help for any trader? or why i should even say no for accounts trades?

tradeing its not idea came out today or last night its from a years ago nothing get changed but the staff now the staff prefer any one who post some opinions he relly dont belive in it they just invite spammers .

[Artemis]

http://content8.flixster.com/question/40/48/69/4048694_std.jpg



:naughty::naughty::naughty: I hope my wife ain't watching me....she's kinda hot.:whistling

well since my wife isn't here right now :naughty::naughty::naughty::naughty:
http://xs124.xs.to/xs124/08092/lmfao465.gif (http://xs.to)

[Rumblin]

well dude, have you ever stopped and realized why staff dont like traders? or has your ignorance blinded you?well clover staff hate traders coz they think we just trade for fun not just to get what we are need there is a fucken idiots traders around who relly trade for fun i cant deny but i tell u what staff before one year ago trusted in traders and they was doing some giveaways here for every one!!!!! not for anti traders only like now and many of those traders didnt disappointed them i belive and i am one of them but now staffers relly just helping anti traders only the fake and true ones now i am trader if i will try to pm any of those staff asking for invite he will say no coz u are trader even if i will promised him and i swear i will keep that invite to my personal use he wont even belive me there no trust between staffers and the half of this forum and this just makeing this community falling apart so why i should care about CR or GUR if its not give any help for any trader? or why i should even say no for accounts trades?

tradeing its not idea came out today or last night its from a years ago nothing get changed but the staff now the staff prefer any one who post some opinions he relly dont belive in it they just invite spammers .

they think we just trade for fun not just to get what we are need are you serious? do you need every level 10, 9, 8, 7, 6 out there, clear difference with what you need and what you need in your collection.

[grimms]

:naughty::naughty::naughty: I hope my wife ain't watching me....she's kinda hot.:whistling

well since my wife isn't here right now :naughty::naughty::naughty::naughty:
http://xs124.xs.to/xs124/08092/lmfao465.gif (http://xs.to)

:lol::lol::lol::lol:Good one Artimes. I got a really good laugh. Shit.. My wife is calling me.. Gotta go to bed peace out.:whistling

[supper]

well clover staff hate traders coz they think we just trade for fun not just to get what we are need there is a fucken idiots traders around who relly trade for fun i cant deny but i tell u what staff before one year ago trusted in traders and they was doing some giveaways here for every one!!!!! not for anti traders only like now and many of those traders didnt disappointed them i belive and i am one of them but now staffers relly just helping anti traders only the fake and true ones now i am trader if i will try to pm any of those staff asking for invite he will say no coz u are trader even if i will promised him and i swear i will keep that invite to my personal use he wont even belive me there no trust between staffers and the half of this forum and this just makeing this community falling apart so why i should care about CR or GUR if its not give any help for any trader? or why i should even say no for accounts trades?

tradeing its not idea came out today or last night its from a years ago nothing get changed but the staff now the staff prefer any one who post some opinions he relly dont belive in it they just invite spammers .

they think we just trade for fun not just to get what we are need are you serious? do you need every level 10, 9, 8, 7, 6 out there, clear difference with what you need and what you need in your collection.well let me ask u something and lets be for real for once

how many trackers u have? i c ur avatar in every where already!
how many tracker every member have in this forum u will find out every member have at least 10 trackers do u relly think they need all of this number of trackers? just tell me what is collecting mean in ur thinking

levels its not just for traders only anti traders keep seeking for it as well have u asked ur self what makes trackers like F*C and F*N better then even TL or revltt or SCC but traders and anti traders still need it why ? anti traders care about levels too u know it

[Rumblin]

i have a specialisied tracker in everything i need, bithdtv for hd, fsc + its for forums, bitme for books, bitmetv for tv, revtt or general, what.cd for music, tl for general funny thing is i use them all, also ive used this avatar in one other place........how have you seen it everywhere?

[supper]

i have a specialisied tracker in everything i need, bithdtv for hd, fsc + its for forums, bitme for books, bitmetv for tv, revtt or general, what.cd for music, tl for general funny thing is i use them all, also ive used this avatar in one other place........how have you seen it everywhere?fsc and its for forums?:unsure: like fst have bad forum? what the very interesting thing there? how do u look like thread? or hump the person above u? or ban the person above u? come on give me a break dont u have sct or F*N or scl ? dont u? they are all generla tracker too u know

[fatcat69]

i have a specialisied tracker in everything i need, bithdtv for hd, fsc + its for forums, bitme for books, bitmetv for tv, revtt or general, what.cd for music, tl for general funny thing is i use them all, also ive used this avatar in one other place........how have you seen it everywhere?

Ya I was about to say, its pretty obvious very that avatar is from...

idk maybe the blue lettering gives it away.:whistling


@Artemis....Amen brother.Amen:w00t:

[peat moss]

Wow must say I'm surprised how close the vote is . Think it 's shitty how the powers that be change the rules and leave the Mods like Detaile to sort out the shit .


I'm missing something but the Community Reps are no longer and there's a problem ? I are not smart but think I'm not that retarded either . Gee what a great community to leave your leaders hanging . The Mods like Detaile , tralala and Kflink should decide .


Gee, see those mods are pretty twisted , messing up my post like that . :)

[Rumblin]

i have a specialisied tracker in everything i need, bithdtv for hd, fsc + its for forums, bitme for books, bitmetv for tv, revtt or general, what.cd for music, tl for general funny thing is i use them all, also ive used this avatar in one other place........how have you seen it everywhere?fsc and its for forums?:unsure: like fst have bad forum? what the very interesting thing there? how do u look like thread? or hump the person above u? or ban the person above u? come on give me a break dont u have sct or F*N or scl ? dont u? they are all generla tracker too u know

dont have scl, ftn is just like tl bro, just harder to upload even w/o the ratio rules, plus i hate xmz :) lol..., fsc forums > fst forums sorry its true, people like you make this place worst, thats just my two cents

[supper]

fsc and its for forums?:unsure: like fst have bad forum? what the very interesting thing there? how do u look like thread? or hump the person above u? or ban the person above u? come on give me a break dont u have sct or F*N or scl ? dont u? they are all generla tracker too u know

dont have scl, ftn is just like tl bro, just harder to upload even w/o the ratio rules, plus i hate xmz :) lol..., fsc forums > fst forums sorry its true, people like you make this place worst, thats just my two centsand u make it even worse. oh shit why i am even talking to a such noob with 4 rep points telling me i make fst worse it was mistake sorry

oh just to clear something fsc is great place or its used to be before its got spammers like u there and the most of old members feel the change.

[Rumblin]

dont have scl, ftn is just like tl bro, just harder to upload even w/o the ratio rules, plus i hate xmz :) lol..., fsc forums > fst forums sorry its true, people like you make this place worst, thats just my two centsand u make it even worse.

oh just to clear something fsc is great place or its used to be before its got spammers like u there

spam is my middle name, whats yours?

[supper]

and u make it even worse.

oh just to clear something fsc is great place or its used to be before its got spammers like u there

spam is my middle name, whats yours?wtf:unsure: bond ... james bond

[fatcat69]

dont have scl, ftn is just like tl bro, just harder to upload even w/o the ratio rules, plus i hate xmz :) lol..., fsc forums > fst forums sorry its true, people like you make this place worst, thats just my two centsand u make it even worse. oh shit why i am even talking to a such noob with 4 rep points telling me i make fst worse it was mistake sorry

oh just to clear something fsc is great place or its used to be before its got spammers like u there

Spammers at FSC...noooo...you dont say.

And not to jump in your guys dual...but supper you sorta have the most posts in this thread...so thats sorta spam my friend, dont deny it, you spam with the best of us sometimes. And thats not a bad thing at all :)

Im not taking sides atm...but I disagree on the FSC comment you made, as that has to be one of the most enjoyable communities I know of, I laugh all the time when Im in the irc or browsing the forums.

Also, the fact how you point out the rep points bc to be honest, you can get rep points for anything and noone really gives em out anymore. Hell I never asked for any of mine and I know people beg for rep when they give out 50 invites to stmusic. :lol: So the rep point system is non-existent in my eyes. I personally use the lovely view posts by and threads started by feature of the site rather then the lame rep system. So dont use the epenis argument.

Just bc this user isnt active on FST, doesnt mean he isnt active in the torrenting world...so the noob statement is annulled.

I want a clean fight here gents....


Lets get it on!

:yup::yup:

[Rumblin]

and u make it even worse. oh shit why i am even talking to a such noob with 4 rep points telling me i make fst worse it was mistake sorry

oh just to clear something fsc is great place or its used to be before its got spammers like u there

Spammers at FSC...noooo...you dont say.

And not to jump in your guys dual...but supper you sorta have the most posts in this thread...so thats sorta spam my friend, dont deny it, you spam with the best of us sometimes. And thats not a bad thing at all :)

Im not taking sides atm...but I disagree on the FSC comment you made, as that has to be one of the most enjoyable communities I know of, I laugh all the time when Im in the irc or browsing the forums.

Also, the fact how you point out the rep points bc to be honest, you can get rep points for anything and noone really gives em out anymore. Hell I never asked for any of mine and I know people beg for rep when they give out 50 invites to stmusic. :lol: So the rep point system is non-existent in my eyes. I personally use the lovely view posts by and threads started by feature of the site rather then the lame rep system. So dont use the epenis argument.

Just bc this user isnt active on FST, doesnt mean he isnt active in the torrenting world...so the noob statement is annulled.

I want a clean fight here gents....


Lets get it on!

:yup::yup:

no rabbit punches :) lol...



I voted yes on principle , people forget this site is filesharing . I'v been sharing software for over 15 years some of it has been Warez , Rapidshare , Bi torrent , people here or friends disks ( thats disks ..... ) and now I'm told no way Peat don't share your Bit account here .


What a no brainer ! Not for me to decide tho as I'm a fucking thief with a conscience .We never had these problems before the Bit forum with the As The Tummy Turns posts . Fuck em thats their problem and screw the Community Reps too but at least give them the right to fight back with stars or the right to protect their community . I'm fine with that .


Sorry for the long winded post but times do change don't they .u are the best:)

and agien just alittel advice to any trader u will vote no for accounts trader today and towmoro u will vote no either for invites accounts

u will get ban in any way if any staffer catch u tradeing accounts or invites

if fst want to stop tradeing accounts then stop it for elite trackers i mean like trackers with small community and with staff relly dont like tradeing accounts coz belive me no use for tradeing accounts there coz it will be disabled sooner or later so no need to trade accounts for those.

last word just let the ppl decide what they want coz they know exactly what they need if u will stop tradeing accounts here they will trade it in some where else

invites traders or accounts traders both will be disabled by the staffso no need to even vote by yes or no.

and agien just alittel advice to any trader u will vote no for accounts trader today and towmoro u will vote no either for invites accounts kinda sounds like braveheart, YOU WILL NEVER TAKE OUR ACCOUNT TRADING, CHARGEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

[supper]

and u make it even worse. oh shit why i am even talking to a such noob with 4 rep points telling me i make fst worse it was mistake sorry

oh just to clear something fsc is great place or its used to be before its got spammers like u there

Spammers at FSC...noooo...you dont say.

And not to jump in your guys dual...but supper you sorta have the most posts in this thread...so thats sorta spam my friend, dont deny it, you spam with the best of us sometimes. And thats not a bad thing at all :)

Im not taking sides atm...but I disagree on the FSC comment you made, as that has to be one of the most enjoyable communities I know of, I laugh all the time when Im in the irc or browsing the forums.

Also, the fact how you point out the rep points bc to be honest, you can get rep points for anything and noone really gives em out anymore. Hell I never asked for any of mine and I know people beg for rep when they give out 50 invites to stmusic. :lol: So the rep point system is non-existent in my eyes. I personally use the lovely view posts by and threads started by feature of the site rather then the lame rep system. So dont use the epenis argument.

Just bc this user isnt active on FST, doesnt mean he isnt active in the torrenting world...so the noob statement is annulled.

I want a clean fight here gents....


Lets get it on!

:yup::yup:rep points show u how far u were helpful here its not about epenis its about if u are active and helping others or not thats all and i never asked any one for a rep though.

about Fsc agien i say its great tracker with very awesome staff but who can feel the diffrent between the fsc forum now and fsc forum before is the old members its point of view though

about i have the most posts in this thread i think not the most but i just post in the thread i c its important to clear things in it not in every single thread

for me it wasnt a fight at all


ur statement have been taken fatcat;)

@Rumblin (http://filesharingtalk.com/vb3/../../members/rumblin-190396)

if u relly care about no tradeing accounts here then u should be care about giveing away accounts for the same reason ok? be for real for just once

http://filesharingtalk.com/vb3/f-bittorrent-invites-90/t-giverzway-269285

[LeGenD21]

this will be the end ;)

YES

[Night0wl]

Bumped so none account traders see it too

[stroj]

close..so whats it gonna be?:p

[naaceer]

you mean we still have *trading invites for Rep points* left to forbid next time ? !!!

[BlackEyes]

Sure Yes

[revott1]

Ya I Love This

[danio]

50/50 :S.. remember that acct trading does not include trading invites (if anyone got it wrong) :P

[naaceer]

50/50 :S.. remember that acct trading does not include trading invites (if anyone got it wrong) :P
account trading = invite 4 REP in the language of trackers staff

[danio]

50/50 :S.. remember that acct trading does not include trading invites (if anyone got it wrong) :P
account trading = invite 4 REP in the language of trackers staff
that's irrelevant in this poll

[stitched]

I voted yes on principle , people forget this site is filesharing . I'v been sharing software for over 15 years some of it has been Warez , Rapidshare , Bi torrent , people here or friends disks ( thats disks ..... ) and now I'm told no way Peat don't share your Bit account here .


What a no brainer ! Not for me to decide tho as I'm a fucking thief with a conscience .We never had these problems before the Bit forum with the As The Tummy Turns posts . Fuck em thats their problem and screw the Community Reps too but at least give them the right to fight back with stars or the right to protect their community . I'm fine with that .


Sorry for the long winded post but times do change don't they .u are the best:)

and agien just alittel advice to any trader u will vote no for accounts trader today and towmoro u will vote no either for invites accounts

u will get ban in any way if any staffer catch u tradeing accounts or invites

if fst want to stop tradeing accounts then stop it for elite trackers i mean like trackers with small community and with staff relly dont like tradeing accounts coz belive me no use for tradeing accounts there coz it will be disabled sooner or later so no need to trade accounts for those.

last word just let the ppl decide what they want coz they know exactly what they need if u will stop tradeing accounts here they will trade it in some where else

invites traders or accounts traders both will be disabled by the staffso no need to even vote by yes or no.

and agien just alittel advice to any trader u will vote no for accounts trader today and towmoro u will vote no either for invites accounts kinda sounds like braveheart, YOU WILL NEVER TAKE OUR ACCOUNT TRADING, CHARGEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

couldnt have said any better,may be this whole thing must be more organised atleast in the bittorrent section, every one should be divided into 3 groups traders ,anti-traders, and non-traders...and then people should be asked to chose what group they belong to...and every member of that particular group should be marked with a different color...and then led to war against each other,then probably supper would be "william wallace ,Brave heart(Mel Gibson)"...whats hurting are those guys who flip flop from being trader,anti-trader and non trader,and then may be we will know exctly what kind of progress has that particular group has achived with reference to torrents i bet traders would account for the most amount of buffer,and better ratios among the other 2,for all the hype being said anti-trader make a better member, if having good ratios and good buffer is not the criteria of being a good member then how come no one gets disabled for being inactive in the forums whereas some one with poor ratios no matter how active he is in the forums gets disabled...:P,to be honest i think all this trader,anti-trader are just a means thru which people increase the number of posts. these posts wont change anything but its fun once in a while...may be if this whole trading ,anti-trading and nontrading is more organised there would be no need for asking questions like "should account trading be allowed?",i know its easy to point fingers at some one and say you r wrong then trying to make sumthing constructive happen...but if its a tie between yes or no ,then account trading should be allowed if not anything

[jasperr]

i think this it's a sad thing to have come to something like this debate ... but i'll tell ya what... because of this issue there's gonna be a lot of people banned from the trackers.. How long do ya think its gonna take for tracker staff to get tired of all this BS and start really banning people who have accounts not only here but on other forum types like this as well?? (some do already)

trading may have started out harmless enough(way back in the day) but, look at where it is today!!?? everyone and their grandmother wants to trade an account, thinking they can get something better..?? it's outragous... and people actually think that this is the only way to get on a tracker.. unbelievable, really it is..

tracker staff spend a great deal of time, effort and money(yes i said money) to try to make sure their site(s) are decent.. and the uploaders as well spend a great deal of time effort and money (yes i said money again) also to make sure the site is up to date with the latest stuff.. sometimes it isn't easy, but they do it for everyone that use their site which they take some pride in....now the problem with account trading is that there is no accountabilty, no way of knowing whos who, and no respect for the hard work others do to provide a good place to hang out and get your needs filled.

the sad thing is that too many users here as well as other places think it's their birthright as long as they have an internet connection that they can get into any one of these trackers and do what they please... thats not wright nor is it fair to the rest who actually try to do right by the rules of the tracker..
many trade for of it.. many more trade simply because they don't give a shit about the trackers cause they got banned 2,3,4,5,6 times or more already, so they think they can just keep playing the system.. then theres others who trade cause, well.. they're sheep and follow bad examples, thinking thats only way to get in......

there's a major security risk involved with this.. some may say thats a bunch of BS also but, there is. there's many groups out there that would love to see the the trackers shut down and they infiltrate them and record the goings on in them including user ips(not trying to make people nervous) but, it happens.. anyone remember the reat Oink??... or demonoid?? and other sites that have just dropped off the face of the world? not to mention hackers and like dumbasses....

this who cares about trackers attitudes that people have is really ignorant, and yes all who trade that is your attitude.. cause you obviously don't care about their specific rules... as long as you do it here right??

lol.. many people have lots to learn, and many more need to grow out of their diapers.. lmao

anyways.. trading isn't your only option and its certianly not a good one. cause you traders amongst what i've stated and other things, you pretty much spoil it for the decent users who would make good members of these trackers...

Reguards

[stitched]

i think this it's a sad thing to have come to something like this debate ... but i'll tell ya what... because of this issue there's gonna be a lot of people banned from the trackers.. How long do ya think its gonna take for tracker staff to get tired of all this BS and start really banning people who have accounts not only here but on other forum types like this as well?? (some do already)

trading may have started out harmless enough(way back in the day) but, look at where it is today!!?? everyone and their grandmother wants to trade an account, thinking they can get something better..?? it's outragous... and people actually think that this is the only way to get on a tracker.. unbelievable, really it is..

tracker staff spend a great deal of time, effort and money(yes i said money) to try to make sure their site(s) are decent.. and the uploaders as well spend a great deal of time effort and money (yes i said money again) also to make sure the site is up to date with the latest stuff.. sometimes it isn't easy, but they do it for everyone that use their site which they take some pride in....now the problem with account trading is that there is no accountabilty, no way of knowing whos who, and no respect for the hard work others do to provide a good place to hang out and get your needs filled.

the sad thing is that too many users here as well as other places think it's their birthright as long as they have an internet connection that they can get into any one of these trackers and do what they please... thats not wright nor is it fair to the rest who actually try to do right by the rules of the tracker..
many trade for of it.. many more trade simply because they don't give a shit about the trackers cause they got banned 2,3,4,5,6 times or more already, so they think they can just keep playing the system.. then theres others who trade cause, well.. they're sheep and follow bad examples, thinking thats only way to get in......

there's a major security risk involved with this.. some may say thats a bunch of BS also but, there is. there's many groups out there that would love to see the the trackers shut down and they infiltrate them and record the goings on in them including user ips(not trying to make people nervous) but, it happens.. anyone remember the reat Oink??... or demonoid?? and other sites that have just dropped off the face of the world? not to mention hackers and like dumbasses....

this who cares about trackers attitudes that people have is really ignorant, and yes all who trade that is your attitude.. cause you obviously don't care about their specific rules... as long as you do it here right??

lol.. many people have lots to learn, and many more need to grow out of their diapers.. lmao

anyways.. trading isn't your only option and its certianly not a good one. cause you traders amongst what i've stated and other things, you pretty much spoil it for the decent users who would make good members of these trackers...

Reguards

its really sad when some one makes a statement like this...^^^
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. oink?? demonoid?? ....what happened to those has got nuthing to do with trading...it was thier time, they had to go....if that was the case there have been torrent leech,revtt who have been traded,not to mention pirate bay .....i am sorry to say this if someone thinks they cant handle the heat to run a torrent site then they should just shut down like demonoid did....because of oink we have what and waffles...i dont think its sucha bad thing,,,of course what happened to MR.OINK was terrible and i am very sorry for it oink being shut down has had an impact but with death comes life...you cant expect sumthing to stay forever...and dont be under the illusion that what ever happened happened because of trading.,you should stop thinking about torrents and may be think about y lenin,gandhi,Martin Luther King got killed all thou they fought for peace,y do so many people die of hunger every day,are you eating their share of food,will you stop eating food if it meant you can save someone somewhere you dont know of ....if you r soo moved by what happened to OINK?? OR DEMONOID?? how much have you donated for "save OINK fund" 10$,20$,30$,50$ or bring back demonoid,,,since you seem to be touched by what happened to OINK would you give up your whole life savings to save OINK ,i dont think so stop making such idealistic statement,that you are a saint and we are the sinners you r a SHIT,just like melearn to live with that.........some things cant be explained just let it go.

[deuce6000]

I voted no and expected to see an overwhelmingly one sided poll in favor of yes.i can't believe no is winning

[voto10]

yes yes yes

[jasperr]

this whole trackers and bit torrenting may have started out harmless enough(way back in the day) but, look at where it is today!!??
i don't WTF your talking about here m8.. but if you re-read what i said.. you'll see i was speaking about trading not trackers and bit torrenting.. :ermm:


today its all about who makes the most money,all that file sharing attitude ideals and principles are just flushed down the toilet...you become VIP you have special privilages,y dont you ask those sites where are the ideals of file sharing
Hold up here... now what your talking about isn't what i was talking about.. It's true and your right on this topic some trackers have sadly gone just crazy with this.. but, however.. i was mearly talking about the day to day costs.. seedboxes exc.... your talking of the the above Xtra shit that shouldn't be..


we all know how much these sucessfull site make in a month, now every one wants to make money there are 100 of different sites,if you chose to be blind it would be hard to make you see,may be a few rare site do still follow those old ideals but every one of those sites have been charmed by the greed of man at some point or other....i honestly feel i cant think of any site but pirate bay (i started using bit torrent since less then an year so i dont know if many torrent site )which really share file in the spirit of file sharing,i dont know much but little of what i know i am 90% sure of it....and all these anti traders have double standards i am still yet to meet an anti-trader who would treat a level 2 invite with the same respect as level 9,for all your big talk
well, i don't really consider myself an anti-trader but, obviously you've lead a sheltered life.. speaking for myself, i treat ALL the trackers i'm on with respect.. i must admit at first i didn't simply because i was new to torrents and didn't know.. so fucking sue me for that! :angry:

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oink?? demonoid?? ....what happened to those has got nuthing to do with trading...it was thier time, they had to go....if that was the case there have been torrent leech,revtt who have been traded,not to mention pirate bay .....i am sorry to say this if someone thinks they cant handle the heat to run a torrent site then they should just shut down like demonoid did....because of oink we have what and waffles...i dont think its sucha bad thing
yeah, i'm inclined to agree here..


of course what happened to MR.OINK was terrible and i am very sorry for it oink being shut down has had an impact but with death comes life...you cant expect sumthing to stay forever...and dont be under the illusion that what ever happened happened because of trading.,you should stop thinking about torrents and may be think about y lenin,gandhi,Martin Luther King got killed all thou they fought for peace,y do so many people die of hunger every day,are you eating their share of food,will you stop eating food if it meant you can save someone somewhere you dont know of ....if you r soo moved by what happened to OINK?? OR DEMONOID?? how much have you donated for "save OINK fund" 10$,20$,30$,50$ or bring back demonoid,,,since you seem to be touched by what happened to OINK would you give up your whole life savings to save OINK
are you on drugs here??....... cause you'r not making a lick of sense :mellow:


i dont think so stop making such idealistic statement,that you are a saint and we are the sinners you r a SHIT,just like melearn to live with that.........some things cant be explained just let it go.

what i said was not idealsitic.. was the truth, and i guess you can't seem to take the heat either(as you put it) so, why are you in the kitchen??... as for me being a saint!?? :blink: who the fuck said this?? i made no such claims.. and i'm not exacltly sure how you mean by this, since there are many possible roads to take from that.. .. and it's not for you to decide whether or not i am a shit (as you put it).. i don't see the need for you to get personal by directing your anger out on me.. but if want to go there we could.. :frusty: . if you think of yourself as shit, thats your issue not mine stitched.. i consider myself not a saint, not an anti-trader, and definately not a shit!... but a good torrent user.... and if that bothers you.... TOUGH SHIT!!!

-reguards

[BloOod]

Sure Yes .

[IsisBast]

No way

And why don’t I think it should be allowed? The reasons why is first it’s against the rules of the trackers, second it’s not your account to give, third you are betraying the community you want to be a part of, fourth it’s a security risk, I could go on, but I believe the reasons have been pretty much covered by other users.

[Something Else]

It would be nice if each person could write a little more than just ZOMG Yes or No wai.
Not a whole essay but one sentence of explanation would be nice.:smilie4:

[stitched]

i don't WTF your talking about here m8.. but if you re-read what i said.. you'll see i was speaking about trading not trackers and bit torrenting.. :ermm:
i was talking about bitorrenting and trackers,i just tried to use your own words to express what i felt



we all know how much these sucessfull site make in a month, now every one wants to make money there are 100 of different sites,if you chose to be blind it would be hard to make you see,may be a few rare site do still follow those old ideals but every one of those sites have been charmed by the greed of man at some point or other....i honestly feel i cant think of any site but pirate bay (i started using bit torrent since less then an year so i dont know if many torrent site )which really share file in the spirit of file sharing,i dont know much but little of what i know i am 90% sure of it....and all these anti traders have double standards i am still yet to meet an anti-trader who would treat a level 2 invite with the same respect as level 9,for all your big talk
well, i don't really consider myself an anti-trader but, obviously you've lead a sheltered life.. speaking for myself, i treat ALL the trackers i'm on with respect.. i must admit at first i didn't simply because i was new to torrents and didn't know.. so fucking sue me for that! :angry:
you dont consider yourself as an anti-trader it doesnt matter you just are you dont know it yet...with anti trading comes the need to project yourself superiour to traders soo forgive me if i try to tell you you r no better then anyone ....and all that crap about "i must admit at first i didn't simply because i was new" ....you did it once didnt you then stop talking about what some one else should be doing ,dont advice traders as to what is right and what is wrong they already know that ,they do it because they choose to..learn to respect people for what they are...i do respect anti traders for what they are i just dont like it when they keep telling some one what should traders do and how we should redeem ourself by following what they belive in..there is no need to get all excited,if you were not excited then you would be calm if you were calm you wouldnt want me to fucking sue you for that!! or is that suppose to sound cool .
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of course what happened to MR.OINK was terrible and i am very sorry for it oink being shut down has had an impact but with death comes life...you cant expect sumthing to stay forever...and dont be under the illusion that what ever happened happened because of trading.,you should stop thinking about torrents and may be think about y lenin,gandhi,Martin Luther King got killed all thou they fought for peace,y do so many people die of hunger every day,are you eating their share of food,will you stop eating food if it meant you can save someone somewhere you dont know of ....if you r soo moved by what happened to OINK?? OR DEMONOID?? how much have you donated for "save OINK fund" 10$,20$,30$,50$ or bring back demonoid,,,since you seem to be touched by what happened to OINK would you give up your whole life savings to save OINK
are you on drugs here??....... cause you'r not making a lick of sense :mellow:
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. oh am i not making sence....yeah, i'm inclined to agree here my friend..


i dont think so stop making such idealistic statement,that you are a saint and we are the sinners you r a SHIT,just like melearn to live with that.........some things cant be explained just let it go.

what i said was not idealsitic.. was the truth, and i guess you can't seem to take the heat either(as you put it) so, why are you in the kitchen??... as for me being a saint!?? :blink: who the fuck said this?? i made no such claims.. and i'm not exacltly sure how you mean by this, since there are many possible roads to take from that.. .. and it's not for you to decide whether or not i am a shit (as you put it).. i don't see the need for you to get personal by directing your anger out on me.. but if want to go there we could.. :frusty: . if you think of yourself as shit, thats your issue not mine stitched.. i consider myself not a saint, not an anti-trader, and definately not a shit!... but a good torrent user.... and if that bothers you.... TOUGH SHIT!!!

-reguardswhat you said was manipulated truth,what i said might not be 100% true but it is a lot truthfull then your statement...again you are excited trying to sound cool with your "fuck" word,its like posting pictures like some do,..many people seem to find it cool i dont happen to be one of those guys,...you have made no claims ,well like you said since there are many possible roads to take from that..i probably chose the wrong path.....
well when i said shit i didnt mean shit my friend ,i meant you are just like everyone else no good no bad....you were very judgemental in you earlier post i just chose to highlite the judgemental part these kind of arguments can go on whole day just make sure you r liberal in what you r trying to say...again forgive me i didnt mean to offend you,save your hardcore ideals, and principles for something better,which would mean something in your life,
let people be what they are,we traders never go to some one and force them to trade unlike a few anti-trader who go to all the possible traders and pick on them,ask them not to trade blah blah....hope now they know how it feels when someone pick on them
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. thanks for understanding jasper you r the best

[user2000]

my opinion? NO

[jasperr]

let people be what they are,we traders never go to some one and force them to trade unlike a few anti-trader who go to all the possible traders and pick on them,ask them not to trade blah blah....hope now they know how it feels when someone pick on them

please don't try to use me for your example..... i don't see you as picking on me.. but just the same i wasn't going to leave it as that was that either... i understand what your saying ..... but then again, i'm not trying to stuff anything down anyones throat just stating my thoughts... i guess what i said hit home a bit... thats ok, no ones pefrect... including me..

[sear]

So after all this talk is this thread going to have a resolution or will it die like the others?

[fatcat69]

let people be what they are,we traders never go to some one and force them to trade unlike a few anti-trader who go to all the possible traders and pick on them,ask them not to trade blah blah....hope now they know how it feels when someone pick on them

please don't try to use me for your example..... i don't see you as picking on me.. but just the same i wasn't going to leave it as that was that either... i understand what your saying ..... but then again, i'm not trying to stuff anything down anyones throat just stating my thoughts... i guess what i said hit home a bit... thats ok, no ones pefrect... including me..

Dont bother trying to reason with that guy jasperr, he has the IQ of a dog.

Actually, I think my dog is smarter.


:lol::lol::lol:

[grimms]

please don't try to use me for your example..... i don't see you as picking on me.. but just the same i wasn't going to leave it as that was that either... i understand what your saying ..... but then again, i'm not trying to stuff anything down anyones throat just stating my thoughts... i guess what i said hit home a bit... thats ok, no ones pefrect... including me..

Dont bother trying to reason with that guy jasperr, he has the IQ of a dog.

Actually, I think my dog is smarter.


:lol::lol::lol:

It must be tough being less then a dog.:lol: Jasperr no need to defend whether your an anti-trader or not. I thing you stated your opinion very well without sounding bias. Some think all anti-traders or non traders are bias. It depends on the individual. I think i can speak on this. Most members or users just want a decent community, where they can interact with others, chat, and enjoy what comes with the various different BT communities as a whole, without all the unnecessary ills. I don't care what type of member you are or movement you roll with. I agree nobody is perfect.


So after all this talk is this thread going to have a resolution or will it die like the others?

Probably. I think fst staff got a pretty good idea and handle on how members and bt staff feel and think regarding this whole "Trading/Non trading business". Between this thread, poll and the BT Guru one at this point(The poll suggests a near tie at this point). Hopefully we all as members will be filled in on the final decision and not left in the dark.

[stitched]

Dont bother trying to reason with that guy jasperr, he has the IQ of a dog.

Actually, I think my dog is smarter.


:lol::lol::lol:

It must be tough being less then a dog.:lol: Jasperr no need to defend whether your an anti-trader or not. I thing you stated your opinion very well without sounding bias. Some think all anti-traders or non traders are bias. It depends on the individual. I think i can speak on this. Most members or users just want a decent community, where they can interact with others, chat, and enjoy what comes with the various different BT communities as a whole, without all the unnecessary ills. I don't care what type of member you are or movement you roll with. I agree nobody is perfect.



grimms how old are you 13...i know you dont like me much i dont really care,that doesnt mean you have to dance to fatcats tune,come up with something of your own,like a horse,pig,donkey.. there r other animals too.....dont you know someone's IQ is not determined by what fatcat would say ,as far as fatcat is concerned i forgive him,he is just angry at me for having got my facts straight .....anwyas fatcat...this is not war. we r not fighting are we fatty,...very mature of you ,next thing we know is you start making faces at me is it??
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if i reply to your(fatcat) messages you say "i am little jealous,i am so obsessed with commenting on nearly every post I make...i scare you..I am an internet forum stalker who is trying to bully you!";...if i dont then you start making these funny statements about me

let it go fatcat,dont hurt yourself,i will just put you on ignore list,i have important things to do with my time,i have wasted enough already talking sense into you.
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i almost forgot...
It must be tough being less then a dog ha ha ha :D very funny...

Actually, I think my dog is smarter. the "best'est super'est smartest" joke on me EVER HA HA HA :D :D :D CANT STOP LAUGHING FOR THE REST OF THE DAY , can any one be any more smarter then this, do you work for NASA?....i also hope if we both laugh at the same jokes then may be i have better chances of improving my IQ ,or should i join the anti-trading fatcat reform school

[grimms]

Stitch please put us both on your ignore list, it would solve all of are problems. I'm sick of this back and forth child's play between us all. You started it, but now I want to end it, before the mods have to, which would result in deeper consequences, that none of want or need. I will apologize for indulging in the dog comment, but please lets all stay on topic. Thanks.

[abe171]

You guys are making a Big issue over this trading shit

FFS WE ARE ALL CRIMINALS!

And private sites are really stupid to have rules

Its like Giving a bunch of Rules to a criminal ... like he's gonna follow them

There's really no point in this thread

[Polarbear]

You guys are making a Big issue over this trading shit

FFS WE ARE ALL CRIMINALS!

And private sites are really stupid to have rules

Its like Giving a bunch of Rules to a criminal ... like he's gonna follow them

ever heard of the mafia? criminal organization, right? do you know what happens if you don't follow their internal rules?

much worse than a site ban :lol:

if you don't want to follow rules of private trackers, don't join them.

be a badass criminal on public trackers.

[abe171]

You guys are making a Big issue over this trading shit

FFS WE ARE ALL CRIMINALS!

And private sites are really stupid to have rules

Its like Giving a bunch of Rules to a criminal ... like he's gonna follow them

ever heard of the mafia? criminal organization, right? do you know what happens if you don't follow their internal rules?

much worse than a site ban :lol:

if you don't want to follow rules of private trackers, don't join them.

be a badass criminal on public trackers.

Ya and wat happens at the end of "American Gangster".....they all got busted.

so whether u follow "internal rules" or not .... your still gonna get busted .... so wats the point!?

Trade like there's no tomorrow

[Polarbear]

Trade like there's no tomorrow

sure, have fun.

[Something Else]

Trade like there's no tomorrow

I hope you like sleeping with the fishes. :sly:

[Artemis]

Ya and wat happens at the end of "American Gangster".....they all got busted.

so whether u follow "internal rules" or not .... your still gonna get busted .... so wats the point!?

Trade like there's no tomorrow

First of all life is not a movie, no matter how much you believe it, second of all wish you luck with the 'trade like there's no tomorrow' philosophy, there are some places that it is extremely hard to join if you are a trader (and you honestly don't seem bright enough) and if you are caught on these sites as a trader they will ban you on as many trackers as they can find you on.....

[abe171]

@above

u guys dont mind breaking copyright laws/MPAA/Govt Laws...those laws can put u behind bars and a heavy fine

but are shit scared to break the "internal rules" of criminals

sad world

How many times have you installed software without reading "Terms and conditions"

u simply click "I agree" and install it .... and google the crack/patch/keygen/cd key etc

stuff like that can put you away.... like forever

http://www.microsoft.com/learning/mcp/program/piracy.mspx

[Polarbear]

@above

u guys dont mind breaking copyright laws/MPAA/Govt Laws...those laws can put u behind bars and a heavy fine

but are shit scared to break the "internal rules" of criminals

sad world

How many times have you installed software without reading "Terms and conditions"

u simply click "I agree" and install it .... and google the crack/patch/keygen/cd key etc

stuff like that can put you away.... like forever

http://www.microsoft.com/learning/mcp/program/piracy.mspx

exactly tiger :lol:

now why don't you go ahead and perform a daring, rule breaking trade for the sites you are looking for in your sig?

come on, i know you've got the guts to do it. show us what a hardcore trader is :D

gotta love those newcomers, sweet :happy:

enough off topic now.

see you in your "my account got stolen/banned for no reason" thread, kiddo.

[abe171]

@above

u guys dont mind breaking copyright laws/MPAA/Govt Laws...those laws can put u behind bars and a heavy fine

but are shit scared to break the "internal rules" of criminals

sad world

How many times have you installed software without reading "Terms and conditions"

u simply click "I agree" and install it .... and google the crack/patch/keygen/cd key etc

stuff like that can put you away.... like forever

http://www.microsoft.com/learning/mcp/program/piracy.mspx

exactly tiger :lol:

now why don't you go ahead and perform a daring, rule breaking trade for the sites you are looking for in your sig?

come on, i know you've got the guts to do it. show us what a hardcore trader is :D

gotta love those newcomers, sweet :happy:

enough off topic now.

see you in your "my account got stolen/banned for no reason" thread, kiddo.

ive done it on czone,SCL,TD,TL .... u think iTS,SCT are any different .... LOL... just gimme a few more days/weeks ..... got some huge buffered accounts to leech.... when thats done maybe il PM you from iTS,SCT

a former hacker once said "The internet security is built by humans,thus it can be hacked/cracked by humans" ... or something like that

[briand5379]

I'm willing to bet you can get both those for free.

[shot2hell]

against trading

[Adama]

Trade like there's no tomorrow


:lol::lol:

[max59x]

mhhh NO! :D

[Something Else]

Realise that if you need help from staff of trackers here on FST you should in turn help the trackers by at the least helping them be secure.
Everyone seems happy to take help if they have a problem but not to help in return. :dabs:

If you want FST to be a place where you can find BT staff then trading is the wrong way to go, so vote NO.

If you want FST to be just for the users and a place BT staff abhor then vote YES.

[danio]

exactly tiger :lol:

now why don't you go ahead and perform a daring, rule breaking trade for the sites you are looking for in your sig?

come on, i know you've got the guts to do it. show us what a hardcore trader is :D

gotta love those newcomers, sweet :happy:

enough off topic now.

see you in your "my account got stolen/banned for no reason" thread, kiddo.

ive done it on czone,SCL,TD,TL .... u think iTS,SCT are any different .... LOL... just gimme a few more days/weeks ..... got some huge buffered accounts to leech.... when thats done maybe il PM you from iTS,SCT

a former hacker once said "The internet security is built by humans,thus it can be hacked/cracked by humans" ... or something like that


yeah go ahead and do that.. send a message to polarbear and brag about your clever trades into the trackers.. lol you are not very bright, are you?

if you choose the path of trading, atleast don't brag about your "accomplishments", cause all you prove is how much of a childish kid you are.

bolibompa!

[abe171]

Ya and wat happens at the end of "American Gangster".....they all got busted.

so whether u follow "internal rules" or not .... your still gonna get busted .... so wats the point!?

Trade like there's no tomorrow

First of all life is not a movie, no matter how much you believe it, second of all wish you luck with the 'trade like there's no tomorrow' philosophy, there are some places that it is extremely hard to join if you are a trader (and you honestly don't seem bright enough) and if you are caught on these sites as a trader they will ban you on as many trackers as they can find you on.....

BTW if u didnt know American gangster is based on a real life story.... its not just a movie





ive done it on czone,SCL,TD,TL .... u think iTS,SCT are any different .... LOL... just gimme a few more days/weeks ..... got some huge buffered accounts to leech.... when thats done maybe il PM you from iTS,SCT

a former hacker once said "The internet security is built by humans,thus it can be hacked/cracked by humans" ... or something like that


yeah go ahead and do that.. send a message to polarbear and brag about your clever trades into the trackers.. lol you are not very bright, are you?

if you choose the path of trading, atleast don't brag about your "accomplishments", cause all you prove is how much of a childish kid you are.

bolibompa!

u couldnt reply to my previous posts

cos y'all know im right :D

[sear]

@above

u guys dont mind breaking copyright laws/MPAA/Govt Laws...those laws can put u behind bars and a heavy fine

but are shit scared to break the "internal rules" of criminals

sad world

How many times have you installed software without reading "Terms and conditions"

u simply click "I agree" and install it .... and google the crack/patch/keygen/cd key etc

stuff like that can put you away.... like forever

http://www.microsoft.com/learning/mcp/program/piracy.mspx

1. Fuck all people get fined.

2. Even less go to Jail.

3. No one is shit scared it's called respect.

EDIT:

Why do you even want ITS it's a community tracker, clearly you couldn't give a toss about that.

[SgtMajor]

The only arguments are with those with less than 3 months here, only here for 1 thing before they piss off to their pissant world.

Why bother.

[VIZFX]

Definitely a big NO vote.

[abe171]

@above

u guys dont mind breaking copyright laws/MPAA/Govt Laws...those laws can put u behind bars and a heavy fine

but are shit scared to break the "internal rules" of criminals

sad world

How many times have you installed software without reading "Terms and conditions"

u simply click "I agree" and install it .... and google the crack/patch/keygen/cd key etc

stuff like that can put you away.... like forever

http://www.microsoft.com/learning/mcp/program/piracy.mspx

1. Fuck all people get fined.

2. Even less go to Jail.

3. No one is shit scared it's called respect.

EDIT:

Why do you even want ITS it's a community tracker, clearly you couldn't give a toss about that.

Respect LOL

after demonoid got busted .... watever happened to AXXO,Hockney and all those other guys

they respected the demonoid community and followed the rules ...wat happened to them?

i read it online ...that AXXO is taking a break .... LOL .... its more like running from the cops

Demonoid ratted those guys out .... just like a criminal

when a criminal gets busted .... he wont go down alone .... he will bring all his accomplices down

i never knew people joined private trackers just to be part of the community..... if u wanted to be part of a community join facebook,myspace,orkut, ...the list is endless

i join private trackers just to download

[Diiyad]

I voted no. The problem with all these traders is that they have a complete disregard for the rules that trackers set for their own security. I really don't understand these people, maybe if there could be a special site in their own language so they can understand, but seeing these people ignoring rules, trading or even selling invites/accounts makes me discriminate against certain countries I won't name.

Everyday when I enter the invites section I always see a giveaway thread with some scrub giving away 10 trannytorrent invites in order to get more "BT Rep". FST is overloaded with little kids ... the FST staff should buckle down and cooperate with tracker staff before it's too late to fix this mess... because torrent staff have people who track traders/sellers and they will get your IP. So question is, what ever shall you do traders when you're baned from every site? Use proxies for the rest of your internet life? Best end this stupidity now and ban all trading/giveaways from this forum. FST isn't meant to be a safe haven for 13 year old account traders to spam threads every second ... it's a forum where file sharing is discussed. Period.

[sear]

i never knew people joined private trackers just to be part of the community..... if u wanted to be part of a community join facebook,myspace,orkut, ...the list is endless

i join private trackers just to download

Much of what you say isn't true :\ for a start demonoid didn't get busted the tracker got shut down because of it's provider shat itself. If you just want to download stick to TL...they all have the same content in case you missed that I'll put it another way. There is nothing new to download. Why do people join a tracker with 600 members for community...duh.

I really can't be fucked with this anymore :sick: Your self righteous ignorance won't win you any friends mate have fun being a trading king. I won't be back, you win traders.

[JROQuinn]

regardless, people will trade, very few will take heed to honest suggestions about trading & account giving...so if you want to waste your breath & argue with people that you will never see then maybe someone needs a life. Its alot easier getting invites by giving, being active & being honest....trust me I learned after my first giveaway here & after the learning experience, I got those "dream trackers". Im not a extremely active in all forums but I like to take turns with posting in them.

[bikernin]

i never knew people joined private trackers just to be part of the community..... if u wanted to be part of a community join facebook,myspace,orkut, ...the list is endless

i join private trackers just to download

Much of what you say isn't true :\ for a start demonoid didn't get busted the tracker got shut down because of it's provider shat itself. If you just want to download stick to TL...they all have the same content in case you missed that I'll put it another way. There is nothing new to download. Why do people join a tracker with 600 members for community...duh.

I really can't be fucked with this anymore :sick: Your self righteous ignorance won't win you any friends mate have fun being a trading king. I won't be back, you win traders.

sear : you cant realistically expect such people to know what the word community means because they have never been in one. as he makes it pretty clear, his objective of getting into torrent sites is to build huge buffers and then leech all he can. i dont think these people know where the forums page on a tracker even exists. i can bet that most traders are in the same league and dont know anything about this concept called as community. if they did, the question this poll addresses would have never arisen in the first place. these people treat trackers as just websites where they can go get the latest warez. its a commodity to them

anyway, i think its about time the staff made some concrete decision on this. this thread is getting more and more meaningless and with every passing page you can see the same fights being picked up over and over again. i just hope that what tracker staff and respected members here have said counts as something!

[abe171]

i never knew people joined private trackers just to be part of the community..... if u wanted to be part of a community join facebook,myspace,orkut, ...the list is endless

i join private trackers just to download

Much of what you say isn't true :\ for a start demonoid didn't get busted the tracker got shut down because of it's provider shat itself. If you just want to download stick to TL...they all have the same content in case you missed that I'll put it another way. There is nothing new to download. Why do people join a tracker with 600 members for community...duh.

I really can't be fucked with this anymore :sick: Your self righteous ignorance won't win you any friends mate have fun being a trading king. I won't be back, you win traders.

http://torrentfreak.com/demonoid-shuts-down-again-071109/
http://torrentfreak.com/demonoid-tracker-back-080219/

[Demonoid.com, one of the most popular BitTorrent trackers, was forced to go offline again because the Canadian Recording Industry Association (CRIA) threatened their ISP.]

wat do u mean there's nothing new to download?
all trackers dont have the same files
some trackers have rare files and packs

[stitched]

Much of what you say isn't true :\ for a start demonoid didn't get busted the tracker got shut down because of it's provider shat itself. If you just want to download stick to TL...they all have the same content in case you missed that I'll put it another way. There is nothing new to download. Why do people join a tracker with 600 members for community...duh.

I really can't be fucked with this anymore :sick: Your self righteous ignorance won't win you any friends mate have fun being a trading king. I won't be back, you win traders.

sear : you cant realistically expect such people to know what the word community means because they have never been in one. as he makes it pretty clear, his objective of getting into torrent sites is to build huge buffers and then leech all he can. i dont think these people know where the forums page on a tracker even exists. i can bet that most traders are in the same league and dont know anything about this concept called as community. if they did, the question this poll addresses would have never arisen in the first place. these people treat trackers as just websites where they can go get the latest warez. its a commodity to them

anyway, i think its about time the staff made some concrete decision on this. this thread is getting more and more meaningless and with every passing page you can see the same fights being picked up over and over again. i just hope that what tracker staff and respected members here have said counts as something!

tell me honestly what exactly are you here for to download stuff and get on with your life or to make friends ,even better find yourself a suitable girl/boy friend,make babies and teach them about community and how to be good members and follow the rules by downloading illegal stuff....traders are a dying breed i think, look at all this hate-trader messages,

one more thing it always confused me who is more serious about all these virtual crap "the ones who trade OR the ones who r soo keen on stopping the trade,stealing traders ip...."

its like watching movies....imagine you get an extra ticket to the same movie just before the movie ends, the theater wants you to give that extra ticket to some one you know so that the someone you know could watch the movie for free..... now what these anti-traders do is they want you to make sure you give that ticket to someone you know ,but what these traders do is they would have heard so much about an other movie running in a different theater so they want to exchange the movie tickets with some guy from an other theater, and this is a big sin,its spoiling the theaters name ,and usually tickets of similar level theaters are exchanged so the crowd will be very similar...., be honest now would you or wouldnt you exchange the tickets,y is it so bad??this is no movie but sure enough very virtual just like a torrent site,y would some one take it soo seriously...this is the closest comparision i could make of a torrent site....forget about bar, drinking beer ,your friend buying you a drink and all they are very much real and personal ,cant you guys think for a second rather then just following rules...all this community and all, this is not the place for it,have you seen any tracker with rules like "IF YOU DONT HAVE XYZ POSTS IN FORUMS IN 28 DAYS YOUR ID WILL GET DISABLED",so much for community who are you kidding. may be there are very few trackers which do care about community yes i have never been to their forums ,never will be... most of us dont know how good the forums are or what the community is like.....y would i listen to what they say and their rules if they judge me because i trade ,are their invites worth anything in real ,...when every thing here is virtual y would they want to dissappoint some one in real when he has done all the hard work of getting an account/invite,he has it already so accept him for what he is and try and make your community better,rather then disabling him and give out his ip to other trackers...like watching an other movie in an other theater is such a bad thing to do ... mostly its meant for filesharing....take away that and you will have nuthing left ,so lets just share files and stop worring about who trades or not..because we traders sure dont ask no one to trade unless they want to, its just human to ask for sumthing in return when you give something.....if you still dont get it you probably will never get it,this probably will be my last pro-trading post


i tot "rts" had good community to start with ,and what do these ex-members do make fun of how bad was "rts-2" and how big flop "rts" was, when they happily used "rts" while they could ..i would rather be not a part of such community ....

as far as most of these giveaways made....most of them make 10-15 giveaways of level 2-5 trackers and then one fine day they ask for level 6-8-9.......if they knew no one would give them level 6-8-9 then there would be no giveaways here for level 2-5,they would rather trade........its just plain common sense there is nuthing such as self righteous ignorance.....


i dont know what would be out come of this thread but i sure dont want it to be a one sided decision no matter what the poll results show

[mrnobody]

I am here to make babies :P

P.S. your theater example is irrelevant =/

[Polarbear]

i'm afraid this poll with disappear in the depth of the invite section without any serious consequences.

thanks to everyone who did the right thing and voted no.

at least it proved that site rule breakers aren't the majority on fst, which is a small success.

[abe171]

I am here to make babies :P

P.S. your theater example is irrelevant =/

LOL ... have you tried adult friend finder?

[PRINCE]

when we see the final results ???:)

[jasperr]

sear : you cant realistically expect such people to know what the word community means because they have never been in one. as he makes it pretty clear, his objective of getting into torrent sites is to build huge buffers and then leech all he can. i dont think these people know where the forums page on a tracker even exists. i can bet that most traders are in the same league and dont know anything about this concept called as community. if they did, the question this poll addresses would have never arisen in the first place. these people treat trackers as just websites where they can go get the latest warez. its a commodity to them

anyway, i think its about time the staff made some concrete decision on this. this thread is getting more and more meaningless and with every passing page you can see the same fights being picked up over and over again. i just hope that what tracker staff and respected members here have said counts as something!

tell me honestly what exactly are you here for to download stuff and get on with your life or to make friends ,even better find yourself a suitable girl/boy friend,make babies and teach them about community and how to be good members and follow the rules by downloading illegal stuff....traders are a dying breed i think, look at all this hate-trader messages,

one more thing it always confused me who is more serious about all these virtual crap "the ones who trade OR the ones who r soo keen on stopping the trade,stealing traders ip...."

its like watching movies....imagine you get an extra ticket to the same movie just before the movie ends, the theater wants you to give that extra ticket to some one you know so that the someone you know could watch the movie for free..... now what these anti-traders do is they want you to make sure you give that ticket to someone you know ,but what these traders do is they would have heard so much about an other movie running in a different theater so they want to exchange the movie tickets with some guy from an other theater, and this is a big sin,its spoiling the theaters name ,and usually tickets of similar level theaters are exchanged so the crowd will be very similar...., be honest now would you or wouldnt you exchange the tickets,y is it so bad??this is no movie but sure enough very virtual just like a torrent site,y would some one take it soo seriously...this is the closest comparision i could make of a torrent site....forget about bar, drinking beer ,your friend buying you a drink and all they are very much real and personal ,cant you guys think for a second rather then just following rules...all this community and all, this is not the place for it,have you seen any tracker with rules like "IF YOU DONT HAVE XYZ POSTS IN FORUMS IN 28 DAYS YOUR ID WILL GET DISABLED",so much for community who are you kidding. may be there are very few trackers which do care about community yes i have never been to their forums ,never will be... most of us dont know how good the forums are or what the community is like.....y would i listen to what they say and their rules if they judge me because i trade ,are their invites worth anything in real ,...when every thing here is virtual y would they want to dissappoint some one in real when he has done all the hard work of getting an account/invite,he has it already so accept him for what he is and try and make your community better,rather then disabling him and give out his ip to other trackers...like watching an other movie in an other theater is such a bad thing to do ... mostly its meant for filesharing....take away that and you will have nuthing left ,so lets just share files and stop worring about who trades or not..because we traders sure dont ask no one to trade unless they want to, its just human to ask for sumthing in return when you give something.....if you still dont get it you probably will never get it,this probably will be my last pro-trading post


i tot "rts" had good community to start with ,and what do these ex-members do make fun of how bad was "rts-2" and how big flop "rts" was, when they happily used "rts" while they could ..i would rather be not a part of such community ....

as far as most of these giveaways made....most of them make 10-15 giveaways of level 2-5 trackers and then one fine day they ask for level 6-8-9.......if they knew no one would give them level 6-8-9 then there would be no giveaways here for level 2-5,they would rather trade........its just plain common sense there is nuthing such as self righteous ignorance.....


i dont know what would be out come of this thread but i sure dont want it to be a one sided decision no matter what the poll results show


i must say you make an interesting aruguement here... but, it's only just that interesting.... form what i can gather from your posts here is that your main gripe is the fact that traders get beat up on for doing what they do... and yes, at times i do agree... there are a lot of times i see a lot of unwarrented comments, pics and otherwise going on here so i give ya a +1 there..
but, from my point of view and what really bothers me about "MOST" traders is their attitudes. i've seen time and time again here, that prety much most traders act as if they are entitled and or owed something from these trackers which just isnt true..
personally, i can overlook a trade if it was a specific request example1: you post and ask for a trade for "XYX" and say that you have trackers "ABC" and "gjf" to offer... thats more respectable(if you really WANT it) than posting something like
example2 "hey! i've got BNH tracker pm me offers... :naughty:" ... which is just aimed at nothing than seeing what you can get for it.. and also making posts trading trackers that either someone thats staff or the owners themselves have made public requests not to do.. thats TOTAL disrespect right there.. and says we don't dive a crap what you say, so FU.... this is the attitude i speak of.. and plus the dumbass comments the normaly silent traders here post also on occasion.....
as for "stealing traders ip" an such.. people wouldn't feel inclined to to this IF traders had the decency to follow the requests from the staff of trackers who say HEY, Please don't trade us ..

you say leave traders alone but, in reality its traders who have drawn these reactions to themselves.... i have seen trading requests almost tripple since i became a member here and gained access to this section, and most don't seem to give a shit.. some of them seem to have been banned from specific trackers previously multiple times ... for the same things.. and yet they still have the nerve to bitch and complain about it... uhmmm , hello this should tell ya something... lol

and also... you talk about it's about filesharing?? traders don't give a rats ass about filesharing.... most just get a tracker build up the buffer solely to trade it for something better.. they use their seedboxes, build'e, to 1tb or so(which on some boxes that could take maybe a week) then they drop that site for a while(wheres the sharing there?) .. then after some time they try to pawn it off for all they can get.. thats how "most" traders work.. how is this beneficial to the torrent community?? IMO filesharing is just that... sharing for as long as possible, not till your buffer gets to be a certain size....

anyways.. as i said traders brought all the negativity on themsleves.. this isn't something that someone started on a whim... i'm not saying i agree with it, everyone knows if put some fuel in that fire myself.. but still, most tradings are dumb and pointless.... thats what i'm against... trading should be on a minimal only if ya have to basis...

i also think that all these giveaways are a bit too much also ... no thought or investigations before just handing over an invite.. :frusty:. but thats a another subject....
anyways
_REGUARDS

[mrnobody]

when we see the final results ???:)

vote and see the result? :P

[PRINCE]

when we see the final results ???:)

vote and see the result? :P
:D
i know
i mean when this thread end

[briand5379]

Interesting debate as always.

[bikernin]

sear : you cant realistically expect such people to know what the word community means because they have never been in one. as he makes it pretty clear, his objective of getting into torrent sites is to build huge buffers and then leech all he can. i dont think these people know where the forums page on a tracker even exists. i can bet that most traders are in the same league and dont know anything about this concept called as community. if they did, the question this poll addresses would have never arisen in the first place. these people treat trackers as just websites where they can go get the latest warez. its a commodity to them

anyway, i think its about time the staff made some concrete decision on this. this thread is getting more and more meaningless and with every passing page you can see the same fights being picked up over and over again. i just hope that what tracker staff and respected members here have said counts as something!

tell me honestly what exactly are you here for to download stuff and get on with your life or to make friends ,even better find yourself a suitable girl/boy friend,make babies and teach them about community and how to be good members and follow the rules by downloading illegal stuff....traders are a dying breed i think, look at all this hate-trader messages,

one more thing it always confused me who is more serious about all these virtual crap "the ones who trade OR the ones who r soo keen on stopping the trade,stealing traders ip...."

its like watching movies....imagine you get an extra ticket to the same movie just before the movie ends, the theater wants you to give that extra ticket to some one you know so that the someone you know could watch the movie for free..... now what these anti-traders do is they want you to make sure you give that ticket to someone you know ,but what these traders do is they would have heard so much about an other movie running in a different theater so they want to exchange the movie tickets with some guy from an other theater, and this is a big sin,its spoiling the theaters name ,and usually tickets of similar level theaters are exchanged so the crowd will be very similar...., be honest now would you or wouldnt you exchange the tickets,y is it so bad??this is no movie but sure enough very virtual just like a torrent site,y would some one take it soo seriously...this is the closest comparision i could make of a torrent site....forget about bar, drinking beer ,your friend buying you a drink and all they are very much real and personal ,cant you guys think for a second rather then just following rules...all this community and all, this is not the place for it,have you seen any tracker with rules like "IF YOU DONT HAVE XYZ POSTS IN FORUMS IN 28 DAYS YOUR ID WILL GET DISABLED",so much for community who are you kidding. may be there are very few trackers which do care about community yes i have never been to their forums ,never will be... most of us dont know how good the forums are or what the community is like.....y would i listen to what they say and their rules if they judge me because i trade ,are their invites worth anything in real ,...when every thing here is virtual y would they want to dissappoint some one in real when he has done all the hard work of getting an account/invite,he has it already so accept him for what he is and try and make your community better,rather then disabling him and give out his ip to other trackers...like watching an other movie in an other theater is such a bad thing to do ... mostly its meant for filesharing....take away that and you will have nuthing left ,so lets just share files and stop worring about who trades or not..because we traders sure dont ask no one to trade unless they want to, its just human to ask for sumthing in return when you give something.....if you still dont get it you probably will never get it,this probably will be my last pro-trading post


i tot "rts" had good community to start with ,and what do these ex-members do make fun of how bad was "rts-2" and how big flop "rts" was, when they happily used "rts" while they could ..i would rather be not a part of such community ....

as far as most of these giveaways made....most of them make 10-15 giveaways of level 2-5 trackers and then one fine day they ask for level 6-8-9.......if they knew no one would give them level 6-8-9 then there would be no giveaways here for level 2-5,they would rather trade........its just plain common sense there is nuthing such as self righteous ignorance.....


i dont know what would be out come of this thread but i sure dont want it to be a one sided decision no matter what the poll results show

1) i choose not to comment on any of your posts and with good reason. my quote above is clearly directed at someone else because i was pretty sure people like yourself would not understand it. and as it turns out i was right.
2) i have not made any anti-trader comments nor have i flamed any trading threads, so kindly stop assuming that i subscribe to everything that has been said against you.
3) as for your example, it is extremely unrealistic.
4) i do agree with the giveaway part, people make giveaways just to show that they are good members building up reps till they make "the request"
what i want to tell you guys is, if you dont give a shit about community as you so clearly mentioned, why would you want to even get into a tracker such as iTS, ScL, FTN or FSC? the content there can be found on almost any 0day site. what makes them unique is the community and it would be best for you as well as the trackers if traders stayed out of it. obviously you have a fundamental conflict with the staff of such trackers and neither of you can be happy together!

[JROQuinn]

regardless, people will trade, very few will take heed to honest suggestions about trading & account giving...so if you want to waste your breath & argue with people that you will never see then maybe someone needs a life. Its alot easier getting invites by giving, being active & being honest....trust me I learned after my first giveaway here & after the learning experience, I got those "dream trackers". Im not a extremely active in all forums but I like to take turns with posting in them.

:cry1: Someone gave my post a thumbs down :rolleyes:

[grimms]

if you dont give a shit about community as you so clearly mentioned, why would you want to even get into a tracker such as iTS, ScL, FTN or FSC? the content there can be found on almost any 0day site. what makes them unique is the community and it would be best for you as well as the trackers if traders stayed out of it. obviously you have a fundamental conflict with the staff of such trackers and neither of you can be happy together!

Great point. I tend to agree immensely on this very statement. It carries a lot of substance. If you don't care about the community, I wouldn't waste your time on trying to become a member. Leave those communities to us members that do.

[1000possibleclaws]

regardless, people will trade, very few will take heed to honest suggestions about trading & account giving...so if you want to waste your breath & argue with people that you will never see then maybe someone needs a life. Its alot easier getting invites by giving, being active & being honest....trust me I learned after my first giveaway here & after the learning experience, I got those "dream trackers". Im not a extremely active in all forums but I like to take turns with posting in them.

:cry1: Someone gave my post a thumbs down :rolleyes:

thumbs up :D!

[JROQuinn]

:D Thanks :P

[Artemis]

tell me honestly what exactly are you here for to download stuff and get on with your life or to make friends ,even better find yourself a suitable girl/boy friend,make babies and teach them about community and how to be good members and follow the rules by downloading illegal stuff....traders are a dying breed i think, look at all this hate-trader messages,

one more thing it always confused me who is more serious about all these virtual crap "the ones who trade OR the ones who r soo keen on stopping the trade,stealing traders ip...."

its like watching movies....imagine you get an extra ticket to the same movie just before the movie ends, the theater wants you to give that extra ticket to some one you know so that the someone you know could watch the movie for free..... now what these anti-traders do is they want you to make sure you give that ticket to someone you know ,but what these traders do is they would have heard so much about an other movie running in a different theater so they want to exchange the movie tickets with some guy from an other theater, and this is a big sin,its spoiling the theaters name ,and usually tickets of similar level theaters are exchanged so the crowd will be very similar...., be honest now would you or wouldnt you exchange the tickets,y is it so bad??this is no movie but sure enough very virtual just like a torrent site,y would some one take it soo seriously...this is the closest comparision i could make of a torrent site....forget about bar, drinking beer ,your friend buying you a drink and all they are very much real and personal ,cant you guys think for a second rather then just following rules...all this community and all, this is not the place for it,have you seen any tracker with rules like "IF YOU DONT HAVE XYZ POSTS IN FORUMS IN 28 DAYS YOUR ID WILL GET DISABLED",so much for community who are you kidding. may be there are very few trackers which do care about community yes i have never been to their forums ,never will be... most of us dont know how good the forums are or what the community is like.....y would i listen to what they say and their rules if they judge me because i trade ,are their invites worth anything in real ,...when every thing here is virtual y would they want to dissappoint some one in real when he has done all the hard work of getting an account/invite,he has it already so accept him for what he is and try and make your community better,rather then disabling him and give out his ip to other trackers...like watching an other movie in an other theater is such a bad thing to do ... mostly its meant for filesharing....take away that and you will have nuthing left ,so lets just share files and stop worring about who trades or not..because we traders sure dont ask no one to trade unless they want to, its just human to ask for sumthing in return when you give something.....if you still dont get it you probably will never get it,this probably will be my last pro-trading post


i tot "rts" had good community to start with ,and what do these ex-members do make fun of how bad was "rts-2" and how big flop "rts" was, when they happily used "rts" while they could ..i would rather be not a part of such community ....

as far as most of these giveaways made....most of them make 10-15 giveaways of level 2-5 trackers and then one fine day they ask for level 6-8-9.......if they knew no one would give them level 6-8-9 then there would be no giveaways here for level 2-5,they would rather trade........its just plain common sense there is nuthing such as self righteous ignorance.....


i dont know what would be out come of this thread but i sure dont want it to be a one sided decision no matter what the poll results show
So to you the end justifies the means, you just want to have all the trackers on the list and you should have them because...........? It doesn't really matter to you about the tracker rules or the people that put so much effort into the trackers in terms of building them and maintaining the websites and offering help when things go wrong with your a/c even helping to retrieve a/c details when 95% of the time they know full well it was an a/c trade that went wrong. These people don't count, your just there to get the latest files and screw everyone else and you should have access to every tracker because you want it and if you can't get in well you'll simply trade another a/c off to get it ?
Does any of this strike you as vaguely selfish ? or are you so overindulged that others opinions thoughts and efforts mean nothing ? A group of people created each of these websites and want a specific group or 'community' of people to join, they only ask a few very very simple basic rules of people that wish to be members, but that is too much for you even? why should you check out the community or post, your just there to rip the latest file, this is exactly why so many people will try and prevent you from trading , you bring nothing to the table you have no interest in being a member of these sites apart from what you can get from them..............

[stitched]

ok i tot i wont post anymore in this thread justifying what i do..but he is me one last time...have you heard the phrase "people always see what they want to see",this is just the example all these anti-traders(who dont want someone to trade) they would never understand...


i never said i dont give a shit about community all i said "y would i listen to what they say and their rules if they JUDGE ME BECAUSE I TRADE "i mean i dont want these community members to be anti-traders...once i am in a community consider me as one of your own rather then an outcast, accept me for what i am ..if you dont care what i belive in, i will not care about what you belive yes i doo feel filesharing would come before community in my book, and thatz what most of the tracker site believe in (for proof refer to a few paragraphs below :D :P)....i do hang out in chat rooms, and read posts in most of the forums i am a member of i just dont post a lot...because most of the sites are judgemental no matter how good of a member i am,once they know you r trader you r out. y would i be foolish enough to lose my account over posting in the forums


as far as my movie example is concerned that is the closest comparision to a torrent site, just think about it....it makes total sense, you just are not ready to accept it because usually the example given is ...you and your friend go into a bar , you get your friend a beer and your friend (so called trader) would give it to some one neither of you dont know, and you r upset over it ...thats y trading is bad....of course anyone would say trading is bad after that example....the truth being all these things we do in real life shouldnt be compared to something virtual,movies are the closest a torrent site can be...stop thinking of movies as real....all these 300 ,star wars ,transformers no wonder they made so much money/// its like saying if you dont watch a particular movie in a particular theater, you are gay....just think about it .....


i am not saying i am not greatfull for the torrent site which lets me download stuff ,i am ....people have their own ways of showing their affection,but all i ask from them is to bare with me ,because i am a trader, well i never go to any site admin for an invite....they are given automatically because they think i am worth it, may be they should learn to trust me on who i give out the invites to,most of them have never let me down if you want proof i can show you my invite list,very few people have been disabled, it happens to every one does it not...some time you make wrong choices and some time you make right choices ....just because i trade that doesnt mean i make wrong choice every time...so many people including tracker staff... make giveaways to people they dont know ,the chances of a giveaway invites turning out to be a bad choice is the same as a traded invite being bad...its all just a matter of chance ,no one is sure about such a thing,its a gamble,i do care about my invite i wouldnt give out my invite to just some useless guy unlike the giveaways,the way i see it traders are atleast approved to be a good member in torrent sites of same level and so they would have the extra invite to trade with, a similar logic can be built about account trading.....yes all you guys see is people like me whining how the account got disable how some one scammed me and all...what you dont see is "we(traders) are like cats ,we always end up on our feet"

Does any of this strike you as vaguely selfish ? yes i am selfish totally....should that be a problem, unlike some guys who try to portray themselves as community man...i have proved it before how much of a community person are these so called anti-traders are...dont ask me to get my fact straight i wouldnt be making claims if i didnt get my fact straight..and i always try to give more then what i got back from the community and thats y i am a power user in many sites...


most important :
its really funny how everyone of these community guys choose to ignore this....there is no torrent site which says..."if the user doesnt have XYZ posts in the forum his account gets disabled",,, its more like "if you dont have certain ratio or seed for these many hours you account will get disabled automatically"...what does that say " RATIOS ARE MORE IMPORTANT THEN NUMBER OF POSTS" "FILESHARING IS MORE IMPORTANT THEN COMMUNITY" its there in the rules, stop busting my balls because i follow the rules...try and beat this logic

yes i doo feel filesharing would come before community in my book, and thatz what most of the tracker site believe in


and please dont quote/understand my statements in half, they would mean totally different from what i said , its like taking the alphabets in a sentence and forming a whole new statement....or make assumptions about what someone feels about something like a torrent site....and dont force me to comment of your blind remarks...if you dont understand what i am trying to say then its better not comment on it...saves me time and typing

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Well this has gone on WAYYY too long so I guess now it will end. Thanks all who participated and as you can see pretty much split down the middle