Bob Geldof reveals the horrible truth about Bush

[j2k4]

He apparently believes there are massive oil reserves in Africa.

There could be no other reason for this.

http://www.time.com/time/world/article/0,8599,1717934,00.html

[ilw]

good article.
I still think he's a cretin, but its nice to be reminded that he's a well meaning cretin.

[j2k4]

good article.
I still think he's a cretin, but its nice to be reminded that he's a well meaning cretin.

I know how hard that was for you.

My best on your convalescence; hope you get well soon. :whistling

[tusks]

Interesting article. I see Bush's position in Africa as not a genuine interest in the region by him personally but as a feeble attempt to gain back some public favor before the end of his 2nd term. It's like covering up the smell of shit with a bit of perfume, it only makes it smell worse.

[j2k4]

Interesting article. I see Bush's position in Africa as not a genuine interest in the region by him personally but as a feeble attempt to gain back some public favor before the end of his 2nd term. It's like covering up the smell of shit with a bit of perfume, it only makes it smell worse.

I think with a bit of poking about you'll find his interest (genuine or not) in Africa goes back a bit further than "the end of his 2nd term."

Could you expand, please, on your "it only makes it smell worse" comment.

Should those in the various African locales turn up their noses at U.S. largesse when it arrives courtesy of Bush?

[Busyman™]

Interesting article. I see Bush's position in Africa as not a genuine interest in the region by him personally but as a feeble attempt to gain back some public favor before the end of his 2nd term. It's like covering up the smell of shit with a bit of perfume, it only makes it smell worse.
:lol:

Sadly Bush will be remembered as the biggest fuck-up President in history.

Too many fuck-ups with him, his administration, and party.

Your last sentence was quite funny. I hadn't heard that one in awhile.

[j2k4]

Sadly Bush will be remembered as the biggest fuck-up President in history.


I'm afraid that distinction belongs to Jimmy Carter, as well you (should) know.

[Alien5]

bush aint even in charge, he's just a puppet. and i tough africa's main commodity was diamonds?

[Busyman™]

Sadly Bush will be remembered as the biggest fuck-up President in history.


I'm afraid that distinction belongs to Jimmy Carter, as well you (should) know.

Not anymore.

I was little young when Ole Jimmuh was in office.
Can you rattle off, in list form, his fuck-ups?

Carter had to deal with certain crises and did a bad job. Bush, besides 9/11, has stirred up shit again and again. That goes beyond "bad job".

Both are inept. Guess which is worse.

[j2k4]

I'm afraid that distinction belongs to Jimmy Carter, as well you (should) know.

Not anymore.

I was little young when Ole Jimmuh was in office.
Can you rattle off, in list form, his fuck-ups?

Carter had to deal with certain crises and did a bad job. Bush, besides 9/11, has stirred up shit again and again. That goes beyond "bad job".

Both are inept. Guess which is worse.

If you don't remember how bad he was, you're still a little young, truth.

We could start with the Panama Canal giveaway, taking us off the gold standard, the misery index, the Shah of Iran/Ayatollah Khomeini fiasco, the Iranian hostage situation, his abortive hostage rescue attempt (absolutely comical in it's ineptitude, if you can overlook the incredible tragedy), nightmarish rabbit attacks...I'm running out of breath.

Even his "crowning achievement" the Camp David Accords, went wrong - remember, Sadat was barely lucky enough to make it home before he was assassinated - you know, you really don't have a clue, if your inclination is to say, by comparison, that Bush only "had 9/11" to deal with.

Carter had "certain crises" to deal with?

To which "crises" do you refer - the toilet paper shortage?

His "malaise"?

All this (and much, much, much more) in a scant four years.

No, you are quite wrong, irrevocably so, and your only recourse is to admit it and never raise the issue again. :whistling

[Busyman™]

Not anymore.

I was little young when Ole Jimmuh was in office.
Can you rattle off, in list form, his fuck-ups?

Carter had to deal with certain crises and did a bad job. Bush, besides 9/11, has stirred up shit again and again. That goes beyond "bad job".

Both are inept. Guess which is worse.

If you don't remember how bad he was, you're still a little young, truth.

We could start with the Panama Canal giveaway, taking us off the gold standard, the misery index, the Shah of Iran/Ayatollah Khomeini fiasco, the Iranian hostage situation, his abortive hostage rescue attempt (absolutely comical in it's ineptitude, if you can overlook the incredible tragedy), nightmarish rabbit attacks...I'm running out of breath.

Even his "crowning achievement" the Camp David Accords, went wrong - remember, Sadat was barely lucky enough to make it home before he was assassinated - you know, you really don't have a clue, if your inclination is to say, by comparison, that Bush only "had 9/11" to deal with.

Carter had "certain crises" to deal with?

To which "crises" do you refer - the toilet paper shortage?

His "malaise"?

All this (and much, much, much more) in a scant four years.

No, you are quite wrong, irrevocably so, and your only recourse is to admit it and never raise the issue again. :whistling

I disagree. Also why is it that when folks older than myself (I'm in my mid-30's) recall a bad Prez, it ain't Carter.

Is it due to party affiliation?

Is it due to whether they were affected personally?

Thanks for the list. It's dubious as to whether Carter affected people's lives like Bush has.

I'd call going to war with a country that had nothing to do with the worst attack on our mainland worse than the handling of a hostage situation and then some.
How many soldiers dead now for bullshit? I wouldn't be surprised if it's 4000.

:plays trump card:

You say malaise. Yeah that was messed up.

How about "Mr President the country is under attack." :ohthenI'lljustsitherefor7minutes: ....but, but, but I landed in a jet on an aircraft carrier. :I'mtough:

It also looks like Carter inherited a high misery index from Ford and never righted it.

[j2k4]

[QUOTE=j2k4;2706647]

If you don't remember how bad he was, you're still a little young, truth.

We could start with the Panama Canal giveaway, taking us off the gold standard, the misery index, the Shah of Iran/Ayatollah Khomeini fiasco, the Iranian hostage situation, his abortive hostage rescue attempt (absolutely comical in it's ineptitude, if you can overlook the incredible tragedy), nightmarish rabbit attacks...I'm running out of breath.

Even his "crowning achievement" the Camp David Accords, went wrong - remember, Sadat was barely lucky enough to make it home before he was assassinated - you know, you really don't have a clue, if your inclination is to say, by comparison, that Bush only "had 9/11" to deal with.

Carter had "certain crises" to deal with?

To which "crises" do you refer - the toilet paper shortage?

His "malaise"?

All this (and much, much, much more) in a scant four years.

No, you are quite wrong, irrevocably so, and your only recourse is to admit it and never raise the issue again. :whistling


I disagree. Also why is it that when folks older than myself (I'm in my mid-30's) recall a bad Prez, it ain't Carter.

That's what you get for living where you live, hanging out with democrats.


Is it due to party affiliation?

No; it's because he was born to be a peanut farmer, and didn't realize he'd peaked until far too late.


Is it due to whether they were affected personally?

Thanks for the list. It's dubious as to whether Carter affected people's lives like Bush has.

Well, that's true; unlike Bush, Carter didn't exclude anybody.

Carter fucked everybody, even you, although I'm sure you managed to block it out, given you were just a toddler.


I'd call going to war with a country that had nothing to do with the worst attack on our mainland worse than the handling of a hostage situation and then some.

You're ignoring the degree of ineptitude again, but never mind.


How many soldiers dead now for bullshit? I wouldn't be surprised if it's 4000.

Bullshit is in the eye of the beholder.

I can make a case for going into Iraq.

Can you make a case for letting the hostages gather 444 days of moss?


You say malaise. Yeah that was messed up.

How about "Mr President the country is under attack." :ohthenI'lljustsitherefor7minutes

Okay, I'll bite:

Should he have panicked and run about tearing at his hair and wringing his hands?


....but, but, but I landed in a jet on an aircraft carrier. :I'mtough:

I wasn't too wild about that myself.


It also looks like Carter inherited a high misery index from Ford and never righted it.

"Looks like"?

Really?

What sort of lenses are you peering through?

Carter=misery index.

[Busyman™]

I disagree. Also why is it that when folks older than myself (I'm in my mid-30's) recall a bad Prez, it ain't Carter.

That's what you get for living where you live, hanging out with democrats.

I actually have some Republican friends too but as you well know, this area is mostly Dem.


Is it due to whether they were affected personally?

Thanks for the list. It's dubious as to whether Carter affected people's lives like Bush has.

Well, that's true; unlike Bush, Carter didn't exclude anybody.

Carter fucked everybody, even you, although I'm sure you managed to block it out, given you were just a toddler.

No I was older than that. Bush and even Reagan for that matter fucked everybody as well.


I'd call going to war with a country that had nothing to do with the worst attack on our mainland worse than the handling of a hostage situation and then some.

You're ignoring the degree of ineptitude again, but never mind.

So are you. You can't get more inept than being presented with a crisis and in response, create another unrelated one.


How many soldiers dead now for bullshit? I wouldn't be surprised if it's 4000.

Bullshit is in the eye of the beholder.

I can make a case for going into Iraq.

Can you make a case for letting the hostages gather 444 days of moss?

What's the case for going into Iraq? All the ones presented....WMD, Al Qaeda, fight them over there so we don't f....are all bullshit.

Were the hostages freed? Were there attempts to free them militarily?

And please, don't bring up folks gathering moss. A piece of the US went underwater and 5 days later the Prez shows up with the food for a frigging press piece.


You say malaise. Yeah that was messed up.

How about "Mr President the country is under attack." :ohthenI'lljustsitherefor7minutes

Okay, I'll bite:

Should he have panicked and run about tearing at his hair and wringing his hands?

Nah, just loike, ya know, get more information as to what's going on. Be, loike, the Commander-In-Chief and stuff. He just sat there frozen. How often is the country under attack? It's not like he was directly under attack and had to hide behind a desk.


....but, but, but I landed in a jet on an aircraft carrier. :I'mtough:

I wasn't too wild about that myself.

Coool, you are not one for press stunts. Admirable.


It also looks like Carter inherited a high misery index from Ford and never righted it.

"Looks like"?

Really?

What sort of lenses are you peering through?

Carter=misery index.

The worst from what I see. He did inherit it though and it got worse.