Flac music

[K 2]

I'm looking for a tracker that has a lot of flac music and it's more accessible than E, i know E is the best but it's to hard to get in. I searched the forum but i didn't find any topic about this, so if there is any please let me know. If not please post here some, thanks

[monk3y]

Pedro is the 2nd big flac torrent site after e
and Waffles has quite a nice collection of flac music

Also if you have flac music of your own to share i'm sure e**** staff will spot you and invite you in, good luck.

[K 2]

ok, thanks for the help

[Skiz]

This may help - http://filesharingtalk.com/vb3/f-bittorrent-43/t-what-trackers-offer-content-speed-pre-time-etc-235742

[TP635]

All lossless format but mostly older music.
Open sign up: http://www.shnflac.net/torrents.php

[zhaokuangyin]

BT music is best flac music site

[pro267]

Well I'll be damned, it's been almost 10 hours with a thread that has the letter E in it and th0r didn't post here even once yet.
I'm genuinely starting to get worried. :fear:

[waterloo]

K2 HD Sound! I've no idea why the scene doesn't do flac releases. And yea, E is pretty much out of reach..gave up on it long time back lol.

[eslip]

Try to get an invite for Pedro's
This is one of my favorite sites. They have a great selection of flac music and incredible staff :)

[halo-]

the e staff do not really lurk around here unless trading is involved ... so, your best bet in getting in is through a friend who is already a member

[Annoyed]

BTmusic is my favorite music site by far(being the lossless whore that I am). It's got a lot of content, I think you would be very happy there if you could get in.

Also what and waffles has quite a bit of flac too. But you really want to get into an all flac site if that's what you're into.

[soulreaper]

Ironically waffles has more FLAC music files than btmusic. However btmusic has got higher quality standards as they've specialised uploaders unlike waffles(in waffles anyone can upload).

It's inapt to say E is better than btmusic because they're both different in the type of music they serve, E's collection is more oldschool so to speak. They're both great in their own right.

All in all i'd say btmusic would satisfy most musiclovers needs.

[nista]

can sombody tell me what flac is?

[grimms]

A Loseless format (Retains CD Quality). Google flac, to get all the details you'll ever need.

[Annoyed]

Ironically waffles has more FLAC music files than btmusic. However btmusic has got higher quality standards as they've specialised uploaders unlike waffles(in waffles anyone can upload).


Yeah, the quality standards is definitely true. You don't have to worry about what you download from Pedro's. I didn't know Waffles had more FLAC though. I haven't really browsed around their much the last couple of months. Nevertheless, I would rather still download those flac files from BT than Waffles.

[Green Goblin]

33826 lossless torrents at waffles.

27275 lossless torrents at what.

as for the other 2 i don't have them, but i guess it will come down to how picky you are about your music.

[grimms]

If your picky about the actual quality of the rip? Then you want BT Music hands down(Their extremely strict on ripping quality). If your not uptight about ripping standards, then waffles will suit you just fine. I cannot speak for E*** as I don't have membership there.

[Skiz]

33826 lossless torrents at waffles.

27275 lossless torrents at what.

as for the other 2 i don't have them, but i guess it will come down to how picky you are about your music.


I downloaded about 300 FLAC albums from waffles during their free leech period around the holidays.

I was verifying the rips as I cataloged them and about 1 in 5 were coming up with discrepancies in EAC. I ended up ditching about 50 GB worth of tunes as I couldn't be fucked with going through each album. :dry:

I use E**** almost exclusively these days for FLAC content.

[K 2]

Thanks all. Somebody helped me with a pedro invite, and for now it's more then enough for me. I understood that waffles has closed the invites for now, so I'll wait till they open.

[dedro]

just exploring flac-starting to get into it more and more

[monk3y]

just exploring flac-starting to get into it more and more

same here, i really hope there will be some sorta portable-flac-player soon enough though hhhhh :rolleyes:

[tgp]

There are some players that support flac listed on this page: http://flac.sourceforge.net/comparison.html

[typeoholic]

He was referring to a futuristic 'iFLAC'

:P

[grimms]

Thanks all. Somebody helped me with a pedro invite, and for now it's more then enough for me. I understood that waffles has closed the invites for now, so I'll wait till they open.

If you have Pedro's, and only want Loseless quality rips? Then you have no need for waffles. Otherwise just wait it out, someone will invite you if your active and can be trusted in the long run. FYI everyone? just don't invite anyone in public.

[Annoyed]

Thanks all. Somebody helped me with a pedro invite, and for now it's more then enough for me. I understood that waffles has closed the invites for now, so I'll wait till they open.

For real, like grimms mentioned, don't even worry about Waffles. BTmusic is what you need if you're into quality. I hardly use Waffles or What now. When I want to put some mp3's on my mp3 player, I download lossless from BTmusic and convert it into V0 or 320 myself.

E I'm not sure of since I'm not a member yet. But I would imagine their very strict on their uploads too. So since you already got into Pedro's, then once you get E that's all you'll need for music.

[grimms]

When I want to put some mp3's on my mp3 player, I download lossless from BTmusic and convert it into V0 or 320 myself.
Exactly much much much better, then crappy mp3 V0 or 320 rips that are made by inexperienced rippers(Don't get me wrong I appreciate their hard work and benefit, from some hard to get music)But if you convert Flac to mp3, it sounds much better(EAC is the only software to accurately achieve this feat). Also there are tutorials out there to guide you on how to probably configure and set EAC, to achieve this.

[halo-]

I cannot speak for E*** as I don't have membership there.

they are even more uptight about their rip standards, which is fine, because it ensures better quality

[grimms]

they are even more uptight about their rip standards, which is fine, because it ensures better quality

Thats great to hear. Thats why I always respected Oink. You have to strive for quality and standards to be respected, valued and appreciated. I like my shit authentic.

[dedro]

after reading this thread, realize gotta get out of quantity and into super quality

[Annoyed]

after reading this thread, realize gotta get out of quantity and into super quality

Yeah, it's the only way to go. Once you get into a good private lossless site, you won't look at the other music sites the same. At least I don't.

Too bad E is so difficult to get into. Once I get there, combined with BTmusic, I'll probably be able to find every single thing I want in properly ripped flac.

[grimms]

Too bad E is so difficult to get into. Once I get there, combined with BTmusic, I'll probably be able to find every single thing I want in properly ripped flac.

:yup:

[pone44]

is flac that different or a ratio raiser?

[th0r]

What do you mean exactly? It can be both.

[L0sslEss]

waffles is my choice

[Alfonso]

FLAC isn't compatible with my zune and I don't listen to music too often on my computer therefore it is worthless to me. I don't have a killer sound system either so when I do listen FLAC I can't even tell the difference between it and 320.

[Annoyed]

Yeah, that does suck that FLAC isn't compatible with the Zune. But honestly, we probably wouldn't be able to hear a difference anyways. All the the FLAC I download I just convert to V0 for my Zune.

I download FLAC because I have a pretty sweet home setup. And when you have something like that, you can hear a small difference between it and V0 or 320. It's not the biggest thing, but still, when you're into quality you want the best. You really do have to listen for that difference though. At least I do. When I put a nice pair of cans on with that system, the difference is more clear. Even if I had a crappy home system, I would still be downloading FLAC for it.

[fartmaster]

I was a member of E and Pedro's but when Oink got busted I closed all my accounts as I'd used the same user name on all of them. That was a big mistake! There were so many fantastic FLAC rips on those two sites.

[Swift]

i bet you did..

[kloot]

It really gets me down that the scene don't do flac rips yet. Everything else they do, they do it to the highest quality. So much music comes out of the scene, that I think there should be at least some groups supporting it!

[Cruel]

It was only like last month i realized my player supported FLAC, guess who was the most happy guy then? ;D

[th0r]

It really gets me down that the scene don't do flac rips yet.

I doubt those sczene kidz know how to rip FLAC properly. It's completely different than popping a CD into Windows Media Player and ripping to 320 kbps.

[PSB]

It really gets me down that the scene don't do flac rips yet.

I doubt those sczene kidz know how to rip FLAC properly. It's completely different than popping a CD into Windows Media Player and ripping to 320 kbps.

cd scene rips are vbr approx 160kbps :whistling and yes, its sucks :angry::frusty:

[Polarbear]

It really gets me down that the scene don't do flac rips yet.

I doubt those sczene kidz know how to rip FLAC properly. It's completely different than popping a CD into Windows Media Player and ripping to 320 kbps.

you shouldn't speak in such an arrogant way about the scene. i'm quite happy that we get their releases.

i prefer flac as well when it comes to quality, but better a lame v2 rip than nothing.

at least they're the ones who buy/get sources (cds), rip them for us and take the risk.

some of them do this for ages and aren't kids at all.

a proper rip in flac isn't rocket science either. in fact it's pretty easy.

when you listen to new music apart from the mainstream, scene releases are your only choice and i'm thankful for them.

yes, i know that flac is superior to v2.

if there was no scene, i would miss 80% of the new albums i download.

unfortunately the common experienced flac ripper on what, waffles, e or wherever doesn't provide me with the new music i like.

if i have a choice, i'll always go for the flac. unfortunately i don't have this choice very often.

i respect the scene! :yup:

p.s. when i want the best quality i listen to one of my fresh washed vinlys on my tube amp. it beats everything digital by far :P

[th0r]

at least they're the ones who buy/get sources (cds), rip them for us and take the risk.The scene buy their rips? Since when?


a proper rip in flac isn't rocket science either. in fact it's pretty easy.A decent rip takes a lot of work, and sometimes there are presets, offsets and other small settings that can make a world of difference.


when you listen to new music apart from the mainstream, scene releases are your only choice and i'm thankful for them.Well, if we're talking about music like that on indietorrents, a lot of their rips are from their users; some are from the scene, of which is true for most releases on TT, or so I've heard.


unfortunately the common experienced flac ripper on e doesn't provide me with the new music i like.I suppose; I've uploaded a few releases from 2008 on the E that cater to the genres of music I'm passionate about.


when i want the best quality i listen to one of my fresh washed vinlys on my tube amp. it beats everything digital by far

Dude, you should learn how to rip vinyl. Seriously. :happy:

[orfik]

Waffles is actually decent when it comes to proper rips. A lot of the more active uploaders from the lossless sites are exerting their influence there, so you're seeing far more high-quality, standardized rips than there ever were at OPP (R.I.P.).

Also, why do people keep saying E**** only offers old music? I hate to break this, but that site offers a lot of contemporary music, in every conceivable genre.

[Polarbear]

Well, if we're talking about music like that on indietorrents, a lot of their rips are from their users; some are from the scene, of which is true for most releases on TT, or so I've heard.

i don't like indie music at all and i also don't like trance (i like other styles of electronic music though)


Dude, you should learn how to rip vinyl. Seriously. :happy:

i do know how to rip vinyl, but this really takes time and i'm a lazy bastard.

to put my musical taste in a nutshell: it's gotta have soul!

[Night0wl]

A decent rip takes a lot of work, and sometimes there are presets, offsets and other small settings that can make a world of difference.

Are you seriously claiming that it's hard to rip lossless?

People that do it wrong are either ignorant or just plain lazy. It takes between 15 minutes and 2 hours (2 hours if your read offset isn't anywhere to be found) to set up EAC and FLAC along with the profiles needed.

The only people that have some sort of excuse are those that are on a Mac and can't run EAC.

Every single torrent site that has audio has extensive guides on the setup needed, and even the longshot that some user does not have access to any of those, they are also easy to find using google.

[fartmaster]

Waffles is actually decent when it comes to proper rips. A lot of the more active uploaders from the lossless sites are exerting their influence there, so you're seeing far more high-quality, standardized rips than there ever were at OPP (R.I.P.).

Also, why do people keep saying E**** only offers old music? I hate to break this, but that site offers a lot of contemporary music, in every conceivable genre.

E is quality, and there's nothing wrong with "old" music anyway, but yeah, there was a lot of up to date stuff too.

[Quylui]

Waffles is actually decent when it comes to proper rips. A lot of the more active uploaders from the lossless sites are exerting their influence there, so you're seeing far more high-quality, standardized rips than there ever were at OPP (R.I.P.).

Also, why do people keep saying E**** only offers old music? I hate to break this, but that site offers a lot of contemporary music, in every conceivable genre.

Listen to this man.

And about the scene... the priority is speed, not quality (as demonstrated by the 31 I Am Legend releases). I don't see them uploading FLAC any time soon, and debating about it on FST probably won't change much.

[fartmaster]

i bet you did..

What's that supposed to mean? :huh:

[Ratzy Rox]

Waffles and What both have considerably more FLAC torrents than either e**** or pedros. People rate them higher because this is an invite trading board.


Dude, you should learn how to rip vinyl. Seriously. :happy:

This is more than a little ignorant.

[th0r]

I didn't know he knew how to rip vinyl, get the fuck off me. If he didn't, it's a suggestion. If he did, fine, ignore it.

[Ratzy Rox]

Im not saying he did, your acting all smug while vinyl is theoretically higher quality than any lossless flac rip regardless of what eac settings or cd drive the ripper used.

...not that you'd actually be able to abx it successfully given how small the difference is :p

I also dont agree that you will find higher quality flac rips on e**** or pedros or that the scene would fuck up ripping FLAC (other than using _ and .'s too often anyway...). FLAC is lossless regardless of how its ripped provided theres no errors which is something you can easily see in a log (and there are still considerably more flac+log torrents on what/waffles than the specalist lossless sites) file and which eac doesnt allow much leeway for anyway. The only thing changing a few settings will do is make it a smaller filesize, something pretty irrelevant when your looking for quality over filesize anyway - if its that much of a concern you can always transcode to wav and back again using your settings with no loss of sound quality.

[fartmaster]

Waffles and What both have considerably more FLAC torrents than either e**** or pedros. People rate them higher because this is an invite trading board.


I was a member of E and Pedro's for over a year, and there were far more quality masterings available on both of them than Oink. Lots of people prefer original CD masterings to the modern loud and compressed remasters, and P and E were both excellent places for these. Also lots of MFSL and DCC stuff. There are a lot more audiophiles on those two sites than Oink. I joined Waffles recently and it's better than Oink was for this stuff but P and E were still better.

[Night0wl]

The problem with Waffles and What? are that any n00b with no idea, or care, about what they are doing see "oohhh FLAC is bigger file size so I can get buffer from it". They don't give a fuck about whether they actually do it right. Oink had the same problem. This isn't only the case for FLAC rips, but also EAC rips encoded to mp3.

Try going through random logs on Waffles or What? and you see what I mean. read offset on 0, errors, tracks skipping etc.

The people on E and Pedro's don't do it for ratio, they do it for the community and they do a good job of it.

If I am looking for an album, I always look on the lossless trackers first, and then if I don't find it there I will try the two W's

[Polarbear]

If I am looking for an album, I always look on the lossless trackers first, and then if I don't find it there I will try the two W's

that's how i do it.

i'm sitting on the toilet reading a music magazine. oh - nice new album, let's have a look.

e - nothing
w and w - nothing

and then i find the scene release at stmusic.

i wish it would be different, but that's how it goes very often.

i'm not complaining. i downloaded great lossless albums, many recent ones. there are just to little flac rips out there. at least for my musical taste.

if i was interested in the monthly top ten albums, i could choose which flac rip is the best.

anyway. i think we all agree when it comes to quality nothing beats e!

[fartmaster]

No but P is equal to E

[Ratzy Rox]

I was a member of E and Pedro's for over a year, and there were far more quality masterings available on both of them than Oink. Lots of people prefer original CD masterings to the modern loud and compressed remasters, and P and E were both excellent places for these.

You reckon? Theres no easy way to measure that annoyingly. Im a member of all 4 but given there are ~10000 more FLAC torrents on waffles/what than on e****/pedros I think its unlikely that the 10000 or so can be explained away as all being remasters with clipping and/or created from compressed sources suggesting theres a greater selection on the lower ranked more general trackers what and waffles but then who knows...


Try going through random logs on Waffles or What? and you see what I mean. read offset on 0, errors, tracks skipping etc.

Cant say ive noticed this problem but then ive only listened to around 300 FLAC albums from waffles/what - im more of a v0 kinda guy, you should report the torrents if you do though. Again, I doubt that there are more 10000 FLAC torrents on each site which have errors when they were ripped suggesting theres a larger selection on those lower ranked trackers.

[Night0wl]

I used to on Oink sometimes although on there there were quite a few likeminded people that beat me to the punch, and you are right I should, but there are also things that are no use reporting. Like the last album I got of What? had no tags, not that there is any problem doing them. The problem is that apart from that the album was fine, so I can't report and reupload. I just tagged them and if there is a problem the next time someone tries to grab it (I have very little doubt that there won't be), I have no choice but to delete it from my client.

[Ratzy Rox]

Heh, i just report away after tagging it myself then reupload it. Some free upload credit for myself and it makes everyone else happier while teaching the original uploader a lesson for the future.

Yeah changing tags means you wont be able to seed 100% of the torrent, >99% will be fine though although you'll appear as a leech due to partial seeding.

[AugustoP]

th0r, can you ABX anything?