[ :: So Whats The Next Revolutionary Torrent Source :: ]

[XS75]

Project Gazelle or SysDev


Project Gazelle: Created by the What.cd Team! Running a Gazelle Front-End Similar to that of TBSource with heavy modification and a XBT Tracker (C++) as the back-end.

SysDev: Created by the Infamous System. Running PHP Front-End and a PHP Back-End, it imo is the Next Big Source. After testing it was theoretically capable of 450,000 peers on a $70.00 Server.


So whats the next big source?

[Kyl3KK]

Project Gazelle or SysDev


Project Gazelle: Created by the What.cd Team! Running a Gazelle Front-End Similar to that of TBSource with heavy modification and a XBT Tracker (C++) as the back-end.

SysDev: Created by the Infamous System. Running PHP Front-End and a PHP Back-End, it imo is the Next Big Source. After testing it was theoretically capable of 450,000 peers on a $70.00 Server.


So whats the next big source?SysDev? What tracker uses that?

[XS75]

SysDev? What tracker uses that?

No tracker at the moment, in fact both sources are unused atm, but check out
http://sysdev.org.uk for more info

[RainRoofer]

who knows

[juodis]

SysDev

[XS75]

:lol: everyone votes Project Gazelle because its more widely known. Read up on both you n00bs.

Is C++ known by all who choose Project Gazelle? /me doubts

[jukesta]

i'd have to save project gazelle

looks hot.

[XS75]

neither will probably replace tbdev in my opinion.
XBTT has been out a while and not as many sites use that.
Its probably just the overly large sites that would even use XBTT for the most part... so I would assume the same for both of these.

Incorrect, many sites are looking to drop the outdated source. And XBTT has been out a while, but not many are familiar with C/C++ so they have no clue how to get it functioning properly.

[SenorBubbz]

SysDev looks better

[(I)]

I love our current TB source :inlove:

What ratio tracking means?

[XS75]

I love our current TB source :inlove:

What ratio tracking means?


The Tracking of Ratios? :lol:

Cant be more clear than that ..

[whiteyes]

Does TehConnection use one of them?

[XS75]

Does TehConnection use one of them?

No TehConnection uses a basically 95% rewritten TBSource with XBTT backend.

[myllian]

Gazelle is all about improving MUSIC trackers, it's stupid to compare both imo. I didn't vote.

[thisismychurch]

sysdev :)

[1000possibleclaws]

:lol: everyone votes Project Gazelle because its more widely known. Read up on both you n00bs.

Is C++ known by all who choose Project Gazelle? /me doubts

well you should have made an option of who cares/ i don't know

[Rumblin]

:lol: everyone votes Project Gazelle because its more widely known. Read up on both you n00bs.

Is C++ known by all who choose Project Gazelle? /me doubts

well you should have made an option of who cares/ i don't know

or if you dont know refrain from posting

[grimms]

I put my money on SysDev.

[dunson]

I don't know what either of these look like. :(

[Gish]

can't wait to see whats finished product:)

[Dr_Green_Thumb]

SysDev: Created by the Infamous System.

Is that System from RVT who is working on that?

[jam0980tr]

Source tbdev
if you really wanna read more about Project Gazelle

go too tbdev ;)

http://www.tbdev.net/index.php?showtopic=15220

[rvt]

SysDev: Created by the Infamous System.

Is that System from RVT who is working on that?
Yes, it's me. Infamous though?

I don't see it as competition. I spent last night with some of the other alpha testers of gazelle poking holes in it so it can be better secured, and I regularly talk to at least one member of their team.

I was slightly envious when I saw their staff control panel, but the 2 are aimed at different things so their panel would not work in sysdev, just as some of my optimizations wouldn't work for them.

A little info about sysdev though. The aim of the (very preliminary) speed test was not to show that it could handle hundreds of thousands of connections per hour, but that it could handle connections on very cheap hardware. If I'm succesful and 450K peers can go on a $70 box, 10K peer sites should easily run on a <$10 VPS.
I want it to be an out of the box, easy set up site for small to medium sites that can be run on shared hosting or a VPS.

As things stand at the moment, there's no real easy way to get a site setup, secured and optimized unless you are a coder or have one to help you. I don't believe that all torrent sites should be run by coders, who may not actually be best for the job. I'm a coder, and I'm crap as a mod/admin :P

You'll also need a good VPS or dedi box very quickly for any new site that's succesful. This costs money, and leaves a paper trail, so new sites cannot easily appear overnight. Revolt did, but I had a server already and I then spent the next week doing security and optimization.

Basically, I want to remove the barrier that prevents non-coders from setting up a new site whenever one is needed.
When oink went down, a lot of people were looking for an alternative but had to wait for what/waffles. When I started revolt to house the misplaced community from another site, everyone was waiting for someone else to come along and do it.
I don't see any reason why any group of people with a common interest should have to wait days, let alone weeks, or why they should need to ensure they have the finances before starting.
If it can be running within minutes, and have a cost requirement of $10 with a code requirement of zero, things can only be better for the users.

Fast setup and low requirements also mean that should a site be taken offline, it can be running again elsewhere very quickly.

For that reason, it wont have anywhere near the level of complexity or features that gazelle or any fully modded tb source does. But it will have the basics you need to start running a private site with the most useful extras, while being as secure as I can make it.

[Artemis]

I'm a coder, and I'm crap as a mod/admin

We all :wub: our 'crap' sysop, you have created a very special place, and what you are doing for the future of the community by developing the sysdev
code is awesome. I truly wish I had the ability to give to the community what
you have done with code development.

[(I)]

I love our current TB source :inlove:

What ratio tracking means?


The Tracking of Ratios? :lol:

Cant be more clear than that ..

Perhaps it's too easy to understand :)
Of course all private trackers need tracking ratio sys. lol

[singing_sol]

yeah a right to go with an option at this moment would be wrong so letz wait for the results

[SAM]

Sysdev.

[KFlint]

i would say none, the next revolutionnary torrent source would have to be in ruby on rails, nothing revolutionnary using php

[grimms]

I'm a coder, and I'm crap as a mod/admin

We all :wub: our 'crap' sysop, you have created a very special place, and what you are doing for the future of the community by developing the sysdev
code is awesome. I truly wish I had the ability to give to the community what
you have done with code development.

1+. Definitely agree.:D

[rvt]

i would say none, the next revolutionnary torrent source would have to be in ruby on rails, nothing revolutionnary using php
The thing about ruby on rails is that it's a framework. It's primarily designed so you don't have to reinvent the wheel, and use prebuilt code for most things.
Nothing revolutionary can come from that.

Building every single line of code from the ground up and doing things in new ways is the only way to revolutionize it.

Besides, a good reason for building it line by line is so you know it's secure. Blindly using someone elses library is bad enough, using a framework where you never even see the code you are relying on is worse.

Frameworks are also slower than custom code whether they are written in php or ruby. They have overheads that the custom code doesn't.

Besides all that, how many places have ROR installed? How many people can understand ROR easily let alone create mods?
PHP/mysql is almost universal, and there's a huge base of people able to create basic mods for PHP code.

[ilovednb]

I think sysdev :)

[trackerman]

Project Gazelle or SysDev


Project Gazelle: Created by the What.cd Team! Running a Gazelle Front-End Similar to that of TBSource with heavy modification and a XBT Tracker (C++) as the back-end.

SysDev: Created by the Infamous System. Running PHP Front-End and a PHP Back-End, it imo is the Next Big Source. After testing it was theoretically capable of 450,000 peers on a $70.00 Server.


So whats the next big source?

sysdev sounds like the real deal

[goodkat]

Sysdev is the only project that released some files publicly and looks quite promising to me!

For the people that want ruby in it should remember the Hydraproject (http://code.google.com/p/hydraproject/)! Why is that one not in the poll? But I don't have the idea that much development is going on there....:whistling

We have to be patient and we will find out....

[necromantic]

SysDev, and I'm basing my decision strictly on the fact that the project has a cooler name than "Project Gazelle"

[Quarter]

As a big fan of What I think that Gazelle is better.

[Qlix]

My votes goes to sysdev.

[yakz091]

my vote doesnt go to either of them.
As i would like to start a site with jsp as the front end and the back end running in servlets.
i dont think anything else is more secure than this.
i bet on it.

[integral]

Another topic from March dug up today. That makes two..

[respawn40]

Oh yes; I remember reading about The Hydra Project. Sounded quite interesting, actually.

[markupmaster]

Oh yes; I remember reading about The Hydra Project. Sounded quite interesting, actually.

Yeah,I had forgotten about that. Are there any updates on it's progress?

[respawn40]

http://onwebapps.com/

That's the newest blog on it it seems like.

[silvertec]

Truly guys it hard to vote of this most will vote by the look of a site by the look rather the code which is been done by a designer.

Few will see the true elegance and brilliance of the code written.

I just take my hat off to those coders that start at the being and build it from the ground up,those are the guys I have grown to respect.

Any goose can steal a source then add their little bit to it look at scc

[markupmaster]

http://onwebapps.com/

That's the newest blog on it it seems like.

Ok,Thanks I Appreciate this...

:)

[respawn40]

http://onwebapps.com/

That's the newest blog on it it seems like.

Ok,Thanks I Appreciate this...

:)

Now that I look through it, the actual post about The Hydra Project is

http://onwebapps.com/current-state-of-the-hydra-project/

[helpme]

i dont know

[nthpeter]

I think SysDev. Stats are better.

[bubucea]

SysDev

[Ramus]

i prefer sysdev personally

[Torrentx]

Any screenshots of sysdev?

[invadercat]

nobody have seen any of the sources as of yet. but IMO both of the projects looks hot :)