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$nax
08-03-2003, 08:36 PM
I recently installed Sygate Firewall, and when lookin at IP's who have tried to connect to me i noticed one which my firewall had to continuesly block and at many different ports.

I used a brilliant site called http://www.arin.net/whois/ most of you probably heard of them.
Well anyway i searched the IP and tracked it down to a branch of my ISP, who are NTL.
They are called ,

NTL-UK-IP-Block

Take a look here.>> http://www.ripe.net/perl/whois?form_type=s...o_search=Search (http://www.ripe.net/perl/whois?form_type=simple&full_query_string=&searchtext=80.1.88.71&do_search=Search)

Can anyone who has knowledge of this kind of thing shed any light on the situation ?

3rd gen noob
08-03-2003, 08:38 PM
erm...sharing copyrighted material is against the terms and conditions in your isp contract...

why shouldn't they be tracing you?

:blink:

dingdongding
08-03-2003, 08:39 PM
yeah sygate detects those udp packets that your isp sends and blocks them (isps are always sending out udp requests to "check" on their customers)

don't worry your firewall is doing it's job

callum
08-03-2003, 10:30 PM
Originally posted by $nax@3 August 2003 - 21:36
I recently installed Sygate Firewall, and when lookin at IP's who have tried to connect to me i noticed one which my firewall had to continuesly block and at many different ports.

I used a brilliant site called http://www.arin.net/whois/ most of you probably heard of them.
Well anyway i searched the IP and tracked it down to a branch of my ISP, who are NTL.
They are called ,

NTL-UK-IP-Block

Take a look here.>> http://www.ripe.net/perl/whois?form_type=s...o_search=Search (http://www.ripe.net/perl/whois?form_type=simple&full_query_string=&searchtext=80.1.88.71&do_search=Search)

Can anyone who has knowledge of this kind of thing shed any light on the situation ?
I've noticed something similar.
When my downloads reach a certain speed, netlimiter shows that windows messenger is connected to NTL infrastucture centre(something like that anyway).

The Knife Thrower
08-03-2003, 10:51 PM
Perhaps someone is bored and is doing a portscan. But that's unlikely.

$nax
08-04-2003, 10:33 PM
Originally posted by dingdongding@3 August 2003 - 20:39
yeah sygate detects those udp packets that your isp sends and blocks them (isps are always sending out udp requests to "check" on their customers)

don't worry your firewall is doing it's job
What exactly are "UDP" packets, and what exactly is my isp looking for.

Im getting at least 5 of these an hour. :angry:

callum
08-04-2003, 10:47 PM
I copied this from norton firewall help.

Some Internet service providers scan the ports on users' computers to ensure that they are keeping to their service agreements. Norton Internet Security might interpret this as a malicious port scan and stop communications with your cable system. If this occurs, you need to let your cable provider run port scans.

$nax
08-04-2003, 10:57 PM
Originally posted by callum@4 August 2003 - 22:47
I copied this from norton firewall help.

Some Internet service providers scan the ports on users' computers to ensure that they are keeping to their service agreements. Norton Internet Security might interpret this as a malicious port scan and stop communications with your cable system. If this occurs, you need to let your cable provider run port scans.

To allow ISP port scans
Do I need to do anything ?

Or shall I just leave it, as i obviously dont want them to see what i am doing. :unsure:

They must be getting pretty pissed off, they are blocked all the time :lol:

FearNot
08-04-2003, 10:59 PM
screw these ISPs . Paying 50 a month for 384 DL and 128 UP is enough. But being spied on? I have Zonealarm now and now my ISP cannot snoob in my personal life.

Scared_ShitLess
08-04-2003, 11:53 PM
Yeah I get the UDP packets all the time most of them come from your ISP but some also come from other bullshit, I read an article a few months back that was saying every home computer gets hacked about every two days but most people don't have anything of value so they just leave. I would suggest if your that worried about someone in your computer buy a router and a good firewall program that should keep most people out. If someone wants in to my computer let them come on in I back all my shit up anyways on a computer that I disable the internet on so its all safe. The worst thing you can have on your computer is banking and credit card purchases. I have a ghosted drive of my OS with everything I use regularly and I re-format weekly to get rid of all the crap.

balamm
08-05-2003, 12:00 AM
They( the ISP) are not scanning you. This is a bug and a vulnerability that exists in early builds of sygate and windows XP/NT . Upgrade to 5.1 and you shouldn't have a problem any more.
The specific bug in the NT kernal of your system allows another computer on your own gateway to access some kernel components. In some cases it could be an attack being "proxied" at you.

http://cert.uni-stuttgart.de/archive/ntbug...1/msg00058.html (http://cert.uni-stuttgart.de/archive/ntbugtraq/2003/01/msg00058.html)

You're all getting a bit too paranoid for your own good.

$nax
08-05-2003, 12:34 AM
Im Runnin Win98..... :huh:

balamm
08-05-2003, 12:37 AM
Then the vulnerability/ bug must lie in sysgate itself.
Block it and if it kills your internet connectivity, unblock it, check all updates are installed in windows and your firewall. It's as simple as that.

Or do what the article suggests with the advanced ruleset. Change it to meet your system requirements if neccesary.