Getting Sued By Riaa

[TriBeCa 22]

If we download from Kazaa Lite, can they track us and sue us for having copyrighted music?

[Paul_NFFC]

yes but youve got more chance of winning the lottery 3 times than getting sued by the RIAA (literally) plus the new kazaa has bad IP blocker on so that makes you safer, dont be scared to download and share or there scare tactics have worked, keep downloading and more importantly keep sharing

[Dingus Khan]

Has any of the users that were subpoenad been Kazaa-lite users?

[Digital Jammer]

Originally posted by Paul_NFFC@3 August 2003 - 23:56
yes but youve got more chance of winning the lottery 3 times than getting sued by the RIAA (literally) plus the new kazaa has bad IP blocker on so that makes you safer, dont be scared to download and share or there scare tactics have worked, keep downloading and more importantly keep sharing
I got pmed by the RIAA while runing the latest Kazaa Lite browser (had RIAA ip blocker). It looks like they found a single mp3 being shared, however NO mp3 transfers were going on at the time of the RIAA warning I received.

I am a big Kazaa Lite fan. - but I dont think the hackers are doing enough to combat the RIAA. :(

[3rd gen noob]

Originally posted by Digital Jammer@4 August 2003 - 06:03
I got pmed by the RIAA while runing the latest Kazaa Lite browser (had RIAA ip blocker). It looks like they found a single mp3 being shared, however NO mp3 transfers were going on at the time of the RIAA warning I received.

I am a big Kazaa Lite fan. - but I dont think the hackers are doing enough to combat the RIAA. :(
you can block other users from seeing your filelist in the options in the new versions of k-lite

you can also block incoming messages in there...

[Digital Jammer]

I have done both of these things recently. Actually when I first got the RIAA warning, I did have Kazaa Lite checked to only show a single file (not displaying all being shared). After that event I have disabled all kazaa lite pm's.

What bothers me the most is that some intelligent people have advised me that the RIAA HAD to have my ip address when they sent the warning to me. (I was running a version of k'Lite that had ip blocker) What has my "feathers ruffled" a little, is that the latest Kazaa Lite claims to not give away one's ip address- yet other very intelligent hackers advise me that this is "bull....".

I honestly think that the best here should discuss the matter of Kazaa Lite&#39;s ip blocking function- truth or myth? <_< That way the rest of us can decide what is really in our own best interests.

[3RA1N1AC]

Originally posted by Paul_NFFC@3 August 2003 - 15:56
yes but youve got more chance of winning the lottery 3 times than getting sued by the RIAA (literally)
i&#39;d say that estimate isn&#39;t quite right, because there are other factors that affect your chances. i.e. what country you live in, what kind of files you share, whether or not you use privacy add-ons, etc. if you live in the U.S., share radio/MTV hit singles, and neglect to use the privacy patch or firewalls like PeerGuardian... your chance of getting targeted by copyright owners is significantly higher.

[3rd gen noob]

Originally posted by Digital Jammer@4 August 2003 - 06:15
What has my "feathers ruffled" a little, is that the latest Kazaa Lite claims to not give away one&#39;s ip address- yet other very intelligent hackers advise me it&#39;s bull.
the latest version does not claim this at all...it only has a built in ip blocker which tries to stop anti-piracy agencies connecting to you

however, this doesn&#39;t mean that your ip is not given out...

also, the riaa and other anti piracy agencies will be changing their active ip&#39;s regularly, therefore there is no surefire way to stop the riaa connecting to you...

[Faethe]

Yeah - and also if you function as a supernode there might be issues


EFF (http://eff.org/IP/P2P/howto-notgetsued.php)

[chalkmongoose]

Although with the level of technical expertise demonstrated in the past by the RIAA, I&#39;d doubt they&#39;re up for weekly IP bloc refreshes.
Most PMs by "I am a member of the RIAA, eat shit and go to jail" are by :ph34r: who think that scaring people is hilarious.

[DarkBlizzard]

I&#39;d say in america ur chances of getting sued by the RIAA are 5 times better than winning the lottery 1 time. But the chance of getting sued for more than &#036;5000 are like 12 times more than winning the lottery. But they wont catch you anyway. Get a proxy to be safe.

[Digital Jammer]

3rd gen noob:

If that is the case... then I can asure you that many others have misunderstood this new feature of Kazaa Lite... (&#39; not disagreeing).

I guess any effort to keep the RIAA from downloading files is a good idea. (however I am starting to feel less paranoid by using Earthstation 5)

[chalkmongoose]

Originally posted by DarkBlizzard@4 August 2003 - 05:26
I&#39;d say in america ur chances of getting sued by the RIAA are 5 times better than winning the lottery 1 time. But the chance of getting sued for more than &#036;5000 are like 12 times more than winning the lottery. But they wont catch you anyway. Get a proxy to be safe.
Considering the maximum penalty of 15,000 dollars per song, I&#39;d say that it is safest to BUY copyrighted materials, at least until this blows over. You could also setup a proxy, but any dedicated :ph34r: can get by one with a bit of work.

[3rd gen noob]

Originally posted by Digital Jammer@4 August 2003 - 06:27
3rd gen noob:

If that is the case... then I can asure you that many others have misunderstood this new feature of Kazaa Lite as well... (&#39; not disagreeing).

I guess any effort to keep the RIAA from downloading files is a good idea. (however I am starting to feel less paranoid by using Earthstation 5)
the problem with a program which is as simple to use as k-lite is that there are a lot of inexperienced/new computer users who decide to dabble in p2p

this can lead to complications as you say...

[DarkBlizzard]

Originally posted by chalkmongoose+4 August 2003 - 00:28--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (chalkmongoose @ 4 August 2003 - 00:28)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-DarkBlizzard@4 August 2003 - 05:26
I&#39;d say in america ur chances of getting sued by the RIAA are 5 times better than winning the lottery 1 time. But the chance of getting sued for more than &#036;5000 are like 12 times more than winning the lottery. But they wont catch you anyway. Get a proxy to be safe.
Considering the maximum penalty of 15,000 dollars per song, I&#39;d say that it is safest to BUY copyrighted materials, at least until this blows over. You could also setup a proxy, but any dedicated :ph34r: can get by one with a bit of work. [/b][/quote]
the max is more like &#036;150,000 ( but they will never get that from a jury)

[Digital Jammer]

Originally posted by DarkBlizzard+4 August 2003 - 05:33--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (DarkBlizzard &#064; 4 August 2003 - 05:33)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
Originally posted by chalkmongoose@4 August 2003 - 00:28
<!--QuoteBegin-DarkBlizzard@4 August 2003 - 05:26
I&#39;d say in america ur chances of getting sued by the RIAA are 5 times better than winning the lottery 1 time. But the chance of getting sued for more than &#036;5000 are like 12 times more than winning the lottery. But they wont catch you anyway. Get a proxy to be safe.
Considering the maximum penalty of 15,000 dollars per song, I&#39;d say that it is safest to BUY copyrighted materials, at least until this blows over. You could also setup a proxy, but any dedicated :ph34r: can get by one with a bit of work.
the max is more like &#036;150,000 ( but they will never get that from a jury) [/b][/quote]
Quote: "they will never get that from a jury"


You know, thats a good point&#33; :rolleyes:

Everyone should spread the word to brother/sister mp3 sharers to ASK FOR A JURY TRIAL if they have to go to court over a few songs&#33;&#33; - Just imagine how this could clog up the legal system. :rolleyes:

[shareshareshare]

It might clog up the legal system, but I doubt most filesharers are that selfless to sacrifice their time and money for the good of the entire P2P community.

[IamCool]

they COULD sue you, but you would have a better chance of having sex with britney spears than getting cought by the RIAA.

[tracydani]

Originally posted by IamCool@5 August 2003 - 03:14
they COULD sue you, but you would have a better chance of having sex with britney spears than getting cought by the RIAA.
Well I guess after last night I had better give up my p2p. :(

[Ghetto...]

Originally posted by tracydani+5 August 2003 - 03:41--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (tracydani @ 5 August 2003 - 03:41)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-IamCool@5 August 2003 - 03:14
they COULD sue you, but you would have a better chance of having sex with britney spears than getting cought by the RIAA.
Well I guess after last night I had better give up my p2p. :( [/b][/quote]
:lol: Then you better