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hangemhigh
03-14-2008, 02:28 AM
If you're a Windows user, fire up an MS-DOS command prompt. Now type tracert followed by the domain name of the website, e-mail host, VoIP switch, or whatever destination you're interested in. Watch as the program spits out your route, line by line.

C: \> tracert nsa.gov

1 2 ms 2 ms 2 ms 12.110.110.204
[...]
7 11 ms 14 ms 10 ms as-0-0.bbr2.SanJose1.Level3.net [64.159.0.218]
8 13 12 19 ms ae-23-56.car3.SanJose1.Level3.net [4.68.123.173]
9 18 ms 16 ms 16 ms 192.205.33.17
10 88 ms 92 ms 91 ms tbr2-p012201.sffca.ip.att.net [12.123.13.186]
11 88 ms 90 ms 88 ms tbr1-cl2.sl9mo.ip.att.net [12.122.10.41]
12 89 ms 97 ms 89 ms tbr1-cl4.wswdc.ip.att.net [12.122.10.29]
13 89 ms 88 ms 88 ms ar2-a3120s6.wswdc.ip.att.net [12.123.8.65]
14 102 ms 93 ms 112 ms 12.127.209.214
15 94 ms 94 ms 93 ms 12.110.110.13
16 * * *
17 * * *
18 * *

In the above example, my traffic is jumping from Level 3 Communications to AT&T's network in San Francisco, presumably over the OC-48 circuit that AT&T tapped on February 20th, 2003, according to the Klein docs.

The magic string you're looking for is sffca.ip.att.net. If it's present immediately above or below a non-att.net entry, then -- by Klein's allegations -- your packets are being copied into room 641A, and from there, illegally, to the NSA.

Of course, if Marcus is correct and AT&T has installed these secret rooms all around the country, then any att.net entry in your route is a bad sign.

http://blog.wired.com/27bstroke6/2006/06/the_newbies_gui.html?entry_id=1510938

Zaxx
03-14-2008, 03:16 AM
Another whistleblower who was a security expert contarcted to work on verizon's noticed a suspicious connection that bypassed all the security in place and was referred to as 'the Quantico circuit' (btw...quantico=CIA pretty much). When he brought it up he was basically told to leave it be. He offered to put a sniffer on it to see what type traffic was present...again he was told 'hands off'. The NSA prolly has total access to 90% of just all net traffic...foreign and domestic. :blink:

Interesting read...

http://blog.wired.com/27bstroke6/2008/03/whistleblower-f.html

AugustoP
03-14-2008, 07:47 AM
What a load of bullshit. Like NSA can't install surveillance equipment that can't be traced by users. Though judging from NSA hedquarters electric bills it has some serious computing power there so it might as well crunch your emails and porn downloads. I don't actually understand all that stuff about subpoenas cause intelligence agencies never need a warrant, they just do their stuff be it eavesdropping or kidnapping people and bringing them to Romania or Guantanamo.
Anyway, this has nothing to do with Bittorent or P2P cause NSA doesn't give a shit about piracy, but you'll be in trouble if police will get access to these systems.

halo-
03-14-2008, 08:40 AM
The NSA prolly has total access to 90% of just all net traffic...foreign and domestic.

i think you mean ctu

usersec
03-14-2008, 01:03 PM
nsa = no such agency ? :lol:

typeoholic
03-14-2008, 06:02 PM
Funny how all my tracert requests to nsa.gov all timed out.

colbert
03-14-2008, 06:36 PM
Congress and Bush have been fighting for months now on whether to grant immunity to telecoms who cooperated with the NSA and other security organizations from lawsuits.

http://www.dslreports.com/shownews/US-House-Votes-Today-On-Telecom-Immunity-92628?nocomment=1