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Squeamous
03-30-2008, 11:38 PM
Eh?

A friend told me last night that pretty soon the internet will run out of memory and blow up. I thought you geeks might be able to explain wtf he was going on about, because it's been keeping me awake with worry :cry:.

tesco
03-30-2008, 11:49 PM
impossible. :)

brotherdoobie
03-30-2008, 11:54 PM
Don't listen to Rossco. The fucking Canadians are behind the plot. They'll muck it up, they always do.

So, yeah... don't worry about it.


-bd

Alien5
03-30-2008, 11:58 PM
The internet is full...of n00b :shifty:

bornwithnoname
03-31-2008, 12:07 AM
impossible. :)


;) I dont know. It is already run out of IP addresses:w00t:

tesco
03-31-2008, 12:11 AM
impossible. :)


;) I dont know. It is already run out of IP addresses:w00t:
Ya but they already started accommodating for that.

AmpeD
03-31-2008, 12:13 AM
was he on lsd at the time? if so there could be some truth behind it

bornwithnoname
03-31-2008, 12:16 AM
;) I dont know. It is already run out of IP addresses:w00t:
Ya but they already started accommodating for that.


I know that ...but Squeamous didn't:P

Snee
03-31-2008, 12:24 AM
Meh. (http://www.internetnews.com/infra/article.php/3605501)

brotherdoobie
03-31-2008, 12:30 AM
Its' so Y2K, like.

tesco
03-31-2008, 12:31 AM
Ya but they already started accommodating for that.


I know that ...but Squeamous didn't:PMy god you're right, the internets are doomed.:O

brotherdoobie
03-31-2008, 12:37 AM
I know that ...but Squeamous didn't:PMy god you're right, the internets are doomed.:O


Citizens Band and ham radio, ftw!

Alien5
03-31-2008, 01:42 AM
damnit the internets are full, im goin to bed. :sadwalk:

Hairbautt
03-31-2008, 03:24 AM
In 2038, exactly 30 years from now, a bug in Unix will cause all computers running a Unix-based OS to crash. The biggest problem is that most internet servers run Unix, so a majority of websites will be down. "The 2038 bug", as it is called, is a problem with how the system processes time, similar to the y2k bug. Unix systems will show the time as a negative number because they encode the time in a 32-bit format, counting seconds form midnight on January 1, 1970. That last number that will work in that format will be the time at 3:14 A.M. on January 19, 2038.

There has already been a big crash because of the bug: in May 2006, AOLServer web server software crashed. The problem came about because it was programmed so that database requests would not time out. However, instead of just setting timeout to 0, it set the timeout to 1 billion seconds in the future. One billion seconds (just over 31 years 251 days and 12 hours) after 21:27:28 on 12 May 2006 is after 2038, the system calculated the timeout date to be in the past, and crashed.

Before you panic, just remember that 2038 is 30 years in the future. A fix might come our way by then.

:view: The Internet Will Die In 30 Years
(http://www.joejoe.org/forum/index.php?showtopic=14670&hl=)
Funny comment from Tiago Luz: "the world will end in 2012, so no problems for us, but SkyNet will be in trouble." :lol:

Dark Archon
03-31-2008, 06:18 AM
lol what a joke. I hope the internet keeps going, don't you?

Squeamous
03-31-2008, 06:37 AM
Oh, ok! Right, so basically the internet is running out of unique identifiers for all the various users, but someone's going to come up with some more?

Is that right, because I'm not very good at this stuff :unsure:.

DasFox
03-31-2008, 06:46 AM
Oh, ok! Right, so basically the internet is running out of unique identifiers for all the various users, but someone's going to come up with some more?

Is that right, because I'm not very good at this stuff :unsure:.

Yes everything is fine, there is already a new IP version protocol in place that addresses this issue, along with other things called IPv6.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IPv6

When IPv6 starts to go belly up, there will be a new protocol to replace that, or something else to replace the IP protocol and it's limitations...

No worries... :D

Squeamous
03-31-2008, 06:50 AM
It's not like I was really worried anyway. I can do without the internet....in fact I can stop any time I like....I just don't want to :snooty:.

I hate it when people drop stuff on you like that and when you press them for an explanation they say 'dunno, I just heard it off some bloke in the pub, I wasn't really listening' :angry:.

DasFox
03-31-2008, 06:52 AM
Governments around the world have an extreme vested interest in the Net, so it's not going anywhere unless they do, or unless we all do, like in some apocalypse... :)

Squeamous
03-31-2008, 07:17 AM
The idea of an apocalypse doesn't worry me at all :unsure:.

escuoop
03-31-2008, 08:14 AM
I think it is Just like 2000's Issue

Skiz
03-31-2008, 08:50 AM
http://img510.imageshack.us/img510/2061/downloadwwwnt9.gif

DasFox
03-31-2008, 08:59 AM
http://img510.imageshack.us/img510/2061/downloadwwwnt9.gif

LOL, Skizo that's great did you make that?

tX
03-31-2008, 09:04 AM
The internet can never run out of space, unless the world runs out of space to put hard drives, or we run out of the material used in them

contrary to what a lot of people (usually not very knowledgeable ones) the internet is not a "virtual" thing, "cyber space" is a myth, every website is hosted on a hard drive, there's nothing "floating around"


yes, they're running out of IP addresses, but i don't think that would be a problem as IPv6 will fix that

J-dye
03-31-2008, 09:23 AM
blame el nino

Barbarossa
03-31-2008, 09:38 AM
If they deleted all the porn it would be virtually empty :dabs:

J-dye
03-31-2008, 09:41 AM
those bluray disks are filling up internet with the huge sizes

J-dye
03-31-2008, 09:42 AM
back to vcd

Biggles
03-31-2008, 09:49 AM
The idea of an apocalypse doesn't worry me at all :unsure:.

I hope this doesn't happen as I am rubbish at these Latin dances.

Squeamous
03-31-2008, 11:47 AM
http://img510.imageshack.us/img510/2061/downloadwwwnt9.gif

I get the impression that you're not taking this seriously :dry:

Squeamous
03-31-2008, 11:49 AM
The idea of an apocalypse doesn't worry me at all :unsure:.

I hope this doesn't happen as I am rubbish at these Latin dances.

That'll be the rheumatism Biggy-wiggy. I'll let you know when it's coming so you can stock up on anti-inflammatories :yup:.

manker
03-31-2008, 12:45 PM
All this stuff people said in this thread is nonsence.
The internet will only break if you type 'google' into google.

Biggles
03-31-2008, 01:51 PM
All this stuff people said in this thread is nonsence.
The internet will only break if you type 'google' into google.

Fact!

Biggles
03-31-2008, 01:56 PM
I hope this doesn't happen as I am rubbish at these Latin dances.

That'll be the rheumatism Biggy-wiggy. I'll let you know when it's coming so you can stock up on anti-inflammatories :yup:.

It is Nivea cold cream you will be needing

http://exilesexiles.co.uk/forums/style_emoticons/default/smackbum.gif

Squeamous
03-31-2008, 04:46 PM
You'll be needing a pacemaker at that rate :shifty:.

manicgeek
03-31-2008, 04:48 PM
In 2038, exactly 30 years from now, a bug in Unix will cause all computers running a Unix-based OS to crash. The biggest problem is that most internet servers run Unix, so a majority of websites will be down. "The 2038 bug", as it is called, is a problem with how the system processes time, similar to the y2k bug. Unix systems will show the time as a negative number because they encode the time in a 32-bit format, counting seconds form midnight on January 1, 1970. That last number that will work in that format will be the time at 3:14 A.M. on January 19, 2038.

There has already been a big crash because of the bug: in May 2006, AOLServer web server software crashed. The problem came about because it was programmed so that database requests would not time out. However, instead of just setting timeout to 0, it set the timeout to 1 billion seconds in the future. One billion seconds (just over 31 years 251 days and 12 hours) after 21:27:28 on 12 May 2006 is after 2038, the system calculated the timeout date to be in the past, and crashed.

Before you panic, just remember that 2038 is 30 years in the future. A fix might come our way by then.:view: The Internet Will Die In 30 Years
(http://www.joejoe.org/forum/index.php?showtopic=14670&hl=)
Funny comment from Tiago Luz: "the world will end in 2012, so no problems for us, but SkyNet will be in trouble." :lol:

Ah! No I don't think so somehow... all real *IX boxes sold today are running 64 bit processors, (even Intel boxes are now moving to 64 bits) as a consequence the word length has changed to 64 bits, so another 32 bits have been added to the 32 bits that are used to encode the clock ticks since 1970... and if you're dealing with someone who is still using 32 bit processors in 2038, who isn't a museum, then you'll deserve to lose your data :lol:


Fixed.

trackrider
03-31-2008, 07:16 PM
Sounds a lot like the Y2K thing all over again. :whistling The fall of the computer and internet did not happen then and I seriously doubt this is any more that tinfoil rumor again. :blink:

Mr JP Fugley
03-31-2008, 07:30 PM
Sounds a lot like the Y2K thing all over again. :whistling The fall of the computer and internet did not happen then and I seriously doubt this is any more that tinfoil rumor again. :blink:

I agree with the fat chick.

Squeamous
03-31-2008, 08:44 PM
Yes, thank you brainiacs. People with a greater level of eloquence have actually pointed that out already. In the course of the last 4 pages we have just about covered all the bases with respect to the internet flidding out at any point and had pretty much come to the conclusion that it was all a load of bollocks. As you would expect from a bunch of people with at the very least the ability to translate thoughts into words in a rudimentary fashion using a piece of electronic hardware as an intermediary. What did you think we were all discussing for 4 pages? :fist:

Snee
03-31-2008, 08:51 PM
Yes, thank you brainiacs. People with a greater level of eloquence have actually pointed that out already. In the course of the last 4 pages we have just about covered all the bases with respect to the internet flidding out at any point and had pretty much come to the conclusion that it was all a load of bollocks. As you would expect from a bunch of people with at the very least the ability to translate thoughts into words in a rudimentary fashion using a piece of electronic hardware as an intermediary. What did you think we were all discussing for 4 pages? :fist:

I like you now, I really do.

Biggles
03-31-2008, 08:53 PM
Yes, thank you brainiacs. People with a greater level of eloquence have actually pointed that out already. In the course of the last 4 pages we have just about covered all the bases with respect to the internet flidding out at any point and had pretty much come to the conclusion that it was all a load of bollocks. As you would expect from a bunch of people with at the very least the ability to translate thoughts into words in a rudimentary fashion using a piece of electronic hardware as an intermediary. What did you think we were all discussing for 4 pages? :fist:

I like you now, I really do.

:lol:

Squeamous
03-31-2008, 08:56 PM
I expected a proper pasting for that :unsure:.

Defy
03-31-2008, 09:28 PM
The internet is full...of n00b :shifty:

QFT! N00bs everywhere you look!

Alien5
03-31-2008, 09:58 PM
The internet is full...of n00b :shifty:

QFT! N00bs everywhere you look!

Everyone loves a n00b :D

tesco
04-15-2008, 08:27 PM
"The citizens of South Park wake up one morning shocked to find the internet is gone. Upon hearing news that the internet may remain in California, Randy decides to head out west with the family."

Squeamous
04-15-2008, 09:59 PM
Is this a new episode?

4play
04-15-2008, 10:14 PM
1206 - Over Logging
Airdate: 2008-04-16 » 1 Days 3 Hours 47 Minutes
No one in South Park has internet access and there's no telling when, or even if, it will come back. Desperation sets in as the fear of the unknown spreads rapidly across the country. When Randy hears there still may be some internet out in California, he packs up his family and heads west in search of a signal.

the rate at which internet traffic is growing has been on the decline for a while now. so no fear of the exoflood.

brotherdoobie
04-15-2008, 10:16 PM
Is this a new episode?


Yes.



-bd

Squeamous
04-15-2008, 11:24 PM
Wow, what with my ear on mouse-grafting-mephistoesque Frankenstein job and my probing of internet related current affairs, I'm practically an oracle :yup:.

tesco
04-17-2008, 11:58 PM
Best ep this season. :happy:

clocker
04-18-2008, 12:39 AM
"Brazilian Fart Porn".

Imagine_If
04-18-2008, 07:21 AM
Eh?

A friend told me last night that pretty soon the internet will run out of memory and blow up. I thought you geeks might be able to explain wtf he was going on about, because it's been keeping me awake with worry :cry:.
:O
This is quite simple to explain although perhaps you might find this a little unusual.
Many members here for example, often wonder where JPaul or manker is? Yes. of course we all do. :yup: Now inadvertently you stumbled onto the solution to this nagging enigma.
Since January 2002, The Internet has been hosted in their heads, and, their usable memory is almost full. Although we all know that JPaul tends to be meticulous ( some say pedantic) with the English language, that's not without a reason. It's his job to ensure that English remains the official Internet language norm, and is used in a correct and pleasing manner.. It's also the reason why he prefers you to type in blue. Blue, strangely uses less bytes than black. When JPaul is at the "end of his Latin" that's where manker comes in. Manker who also keeps disappearing from the board sometimes for months at a time...is like JPaul's external hard disk...and is totally fool... of all sorts of idiosyncrasies saved to that location by JPaul. In any case, in the future, the Internet is considering recruiting members directly from our very own Bittorrent forum. Our members who frequent the Bittorrent forums. are renowned for their empty heads, an ideal place to host more Internet thus. So the answers is yes, He is running out of space but no don't worry, a new, re-movable media source is being drilled right at this very moment... :cool:

Biggles
04-18-2008, 10:19 PM
I found the above strangely reassuring.

Which in itself must be a worry :unsure:

Snee
04-19-2008, 04:47 AM
Was it in a "there's always someone more mental than I" kind of way?

If so, that's perfectly normal.

Biggles
04-19-2008, 04:07 PM
Was it in a "there's always someone more mental than I" kind of way?

If so, that's perfectly normal.

Yes, yes it was!

trackrider
04-19-2008, 07:35 PM
:unsure: but does explain so much :blink: