Doom 3, Half Life 2, And Academy

[abu_has_the_power]

i'm getting a comp with these specs:

INTEL P4 2.4GHZ [800FSB] CPU
- Intel 865PE chip 800FSB 8x AGP Main Board with Sound / USB2.0 / 10/100 LAN
- 512MB Dual Channel DDR400 Memory
- 120GB 7200 RPM ATA-100 HDD
- 128MB GeForce FX 5200 8x AGP Video
- 5.1 Channel 3D Surround Sound
- 480 Watts PMPO Subwoofer Speakers
- 10/100 Network LAN

would it be able to play doom 3, half life 2, and academy?

[Cygnuz-Y]

JUST CHANGE THE Geforce FX 5200 to a Radeon 9800 Pro
And you are ready to go!

[abu_has_the_power]

yea, but that adds about $300

and i'm getting all this for $600

[Cygnuz-Y]

Or the 9700 Pro...

You know, check the Benchmarks and you will see FX5200 is the same shit as a MX 440...

Thats the awfull true! :(



POST = 200 :P

[abu_has_the_power]

yea, but at least 5200 has 128mb and tv out

[DWk]

hey Cygnuz..... YOU have that "sh1t" you are calling the mx440

no need to get the 300-400 bucks ati radeon... you can just get the fx 5800 ultra...or the new fx 5900 ultra that is 256ddr...

and the 5800 is like 200...

DWk

[DWk]

dollars, that is
DWk

[Cygnuz-Y]

Originally posted by DWk@6 August 2003 - 02:32
hey Cygnuz..... YOU have that "sh1t" you are calling the mx440

no need to get the 300-400 bucks ati radeon... you can just get the fx 5800 ultra...or the new fx 5900 ultra that is 256ddr...

and the 5800 is like 200...

DWk
I think you have a problem with authority DWk

I don't care having that " sh1t " as you call it *Cough FAg Cough*

Im just trying to help ASSHOLE :swear:

[G-Tzmax]

Buy the G4 TI4600 or 4800. the FX5200 have poor specs.the diference is $90
look at googlegear.com for the real prize

[Cygnuz-Y]

Originally posted by G-Tzmax@6 August 2003 - 03:02
Buy the G4 TI4600 or 4800. the FX5200 have poor specs.the diference is $90
look at googlegear.com for the real prize
Now that's wanting to help TGZ not that "DWK" SHIT:::

[ObLiViOuS_1.0]

well i think you should be able to idk for sure being that they're not out yet... well i've never heard of academy but doom 3 and half life 2 should work i think because thats a pretty good pc that you're getting yourself there

[abu_has_the_power]

by academy, i mean star wars jedi knight jedi academy

so it will play? great!! if u read some of my other threads in hardware, you will know wat comp i'm refering to here. it's pretty good deal. $600 for all that. but i have to buy my own monitor.
who do u guys recommend i should buy a LCD from?

[Cygnuz-Y]

Dell , Samsung or Sony

[abu_has_the_power]

yea, i might buy a 15in from dell for only $180!! but it's only 15 in. we r moving, so my parents say that i need to get a lcd or nothing at all

[wyzest1]

If you cannot afford the higher priced gpu's go for the mid range, not the budget models. The mid range Nvidia cards work great, i just bought a MSI FX5600 VTDR for (Australian) $350. Which equates to about $200 american but most FX5600 are around US$150 and are approximately the 7th best graphics card around for the average consumer.
And if you can afford it, go ultra FX as they are much faster.

msi vtdr fx5600 My Webpage (http://www.kdcomputers.com/eui/prime/profile/1353.htm)

[Mystic Sitruc]

Dont touch the radeon cards their shit, stick with the nvidia geforce cards.

[jii_m]

Dont touch the radeon cards their shit, stick with the nvidia geforce cards.
Ignore this nvidiot. Just check hardware sites for reviews and get what you like.



If you cannot afford the higher priced gpu's go for the mid range, not the budget models.
I agree. Unless you're bit short on cash or have slow pc ...

[Gandalf on Crack]

Originally posted by Mystic Sitruc@6 August 2003 - 13:50
Dont touch the radeon cards their shit, stick with the nvidia geforce cards.
How stupid do you have to be to post something so blantantly ignorant and no reasons listed at all, I hate people in all categories of life who just say "BLAH BLAH Sucks, but this dosen't cause my mom bought me one and she says its cool B)"



Just shut up.

[abu_has_the_power]

thanks a lot people. so a gforce fx 5200 sucks? i'm not expecting top graphics. this comp is just so that it's cheap and i'm giving my old comp to my sister. she has just discovered the world of learning games on the computer. she's 3, and she's playing winnie the pooh learning games on my comp all the time. my parents say that i should give this comp to her, and get a new one. i've only got 1000 in own possession, right now. and i don't plan on spending all of it. my parents r buying 2 lcds, one 4 my old comp, and 1 4 my new comp, so i don't have to wory bout that. the reason y i really like this deal is because it's only 700 with all the accessories i want. B) B) i havn't seen another deal with any 128mb video card with tv out 4 this price. :lol: :D if u think that this is a bad deal, can u point me out to some better ones? i know i can build my own, but i don't like to give my credit card to web sites i hardly know just because they r cheaper than other places.
so help me out. remember, i'm not looking 4 the best graphics. just 1 enough to play all those games, and all the games from now to 2006. will this be enough. besides, there's the incredible price to consider. so help me out. should i buy this, or keep lookin around? and i can play games even though the video card is a bit below minumum requirements, like the vid card i have now. it's shit, but it plays fine in most games that require higher specs.

[N£MO]

Originally posted by abu_has_the_power@6 August 2003 - 03:25
yea, but at least 5200 has 128mb and tv out
So does the MX440,i have the 128mb DDR card and it is cool.

[abu_has_the_power]

i know there r many better vid cards than the 5200, but it's cheap

[UserX]

get a radeon 9500PRO. you won't be disappointed. in just about all benchmarks, it owns the nvidia fx5600ultra. same specs as a radeon9700pro cept without the 256bit memory. for around $200, this card can't be beat. check the newegg reviews on the card: http://secure.newegg.com/app/CustratingRev...item=14-102-256 (http://secure.newegg.com/app/CustratingReview.asp?item=14-102-256)
not only 5stars avg rating but also a top seller. btu u have to hurry. this card isn't beiong made anymore and soon all the stores will run out of em. gl :D

[Cl1mh4224rd]

Originally posted by abu_has_the_power@6 August 2003 - 15:37
i'm not expecting top graphics.
Doom 3... Half-Life 2... and you don't want great graphics??

Buddy, you're looking at the wrong games then, I hate to tell you. If you want a system that'll play those games, don't do it half-assed.

[Schmiggy_JK23]

the 5200 wont run doom3 for shit, according to carmack, and most doom3 stories, for one, you will need a directx 9 card for it, for the most part, and the 5200 is a half assed dx9 card, meaning, yes it supports it, but only with shitty fps, and low resolutions.

Half life 2, you should be fine for that, as the hl2 engine is scalable, and they have stated it will even run on tnt2s, geforce 3, etc, just not great.

Jedi academy, i dunno. I run the beta pefectly fine with my geforce 4200.

[slammy_dunken]

Originally posted by UserX@6 August 2003 - 09:06
get a radeon 9500PRO.
Get that. It compares well to the 9700 but for about half the price of the 9700. But the problem is that the 9500 Pro is retired. If you don't want to get that, I suggest that you get the 9600 Pro. The 9600 Pro is the first radeon card to use a 0.13 Micron chip, making it comparable to some top-of-the-line cards.

[abu_has_the_power]

i only have $700 to spend on a comp. if you can point out a way of buying a whole comp, case, mobo and all, with a radeon 9500 or 9600 for less than $700, i would love to hear it

[N£MO]

Originally posted by abu_has_the_power@6 August 2003 - 22:30
i only have $700 to spend on a comp. if you can point out a way of buying a whole comp, case, mobo and all, with a radeon 9500 or 9600 for less than $700, i would love to hear it
You could rob it,or sell your arse. :P

[Cygnuz-Y]

That PC is fine if you want to play Half-Life and Doom 3 at low graphix config, if you don't care about the graphix GO FOR IT...

[abu_has_the_power]

but the specs seem to be a good deal to me. is it a good deal?

[slammy_dunken]

Originally posted by abu_has_the_power@6 August 2003 - 16:16
but the specs seem to be a good deal to me. is it a good deal?
It is a good deal, but if you care about playing top games, then you should get a better videocard. The 5200 Ultra just doesn't meet the standards of the games you listed. Try something like a Radeon 9600 Pro or a 9500 Pro, or a GeForce FX 5600 Ultra.

[Busyman]

Get an Xbox and you can play'em minus the mods (except ones on XB Live).

[abu_has_the_power]

ok, thanks people. if i set the video settings to medium or low, would i still be able to play? like i said, i'm not looking 4 top notch graphics, just one enough to play the game without any problems. i'm sure vice city would run perfectly on this comp, rite? and i'm sure ut2k3 and some of the other new fps would work on this comp pretty well.

[i_have_a.d.d.]

Originally posted by Cygnuz-Y@5 August 2003 - 18:15
JUST CHANGE THE Geforce FX 5200 to a Radeon 9800 Pro
And you are ready to go!
nah ur better of with a Geforce FX 5900 much cheaper and 10% faster than ati 9800 (YEA IT IS ,DONT SAY IT AINT CAUSE IVE SEEN MANY REVIEWS THAT HAVE SPECIFIC DETAILS ON HOW THE GEFORCE CARDS RUN SO DONT SAY SHIT)

JUST LOOK 8-D
http://image.outpost.com/art/product/big_shots/3696745.big.jpg :eatarrow:

[abu_has_the_power]

you have a 5200 :microsmile:

[Pitbul]

Originally posted by i_have_a.d.d.+10 August 2003 - 20:55--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (i_have_a.d.d. @ 10 August 2003 - 20:55)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Cygnuz-Y@5 August 2003 - 18:15
JUST CHANGE THE Geforce FX 5200 to a Radeon 9800 Pro
And you are ready to go&#33;
nah ur better of with a Geforce FX 5900 much cheaper
[/b][/quote]
you are by far the dumbes human being besides the idiot that said ATI cards are shit. FX 5900&#39;s aren&#39;t cheaper are u fuckin retarded or something? go shove a light bulb up ur ass and see if u can get a clue FX 5900 are more expensive then 9800&#39;s u moron.

[i_have_a.d.d.]

ok now i dont think im a dumbass but a DorK yea idiot no but resourcefull no and smart no......but i know what numbers tell me that is good

ATI&#39;s r not shit and neigther R FX card&#39;s
but i know @ frys these cards R pretty cheap
but FX is cheaper just look FRY&#39;s electronics (http://www.outpost.com)

and the 5900 has ddr running @ a wommping 850MHZ&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;


hehehe i like 2 highlight stuff alot

P.S. not to be mean but this should really go in the hardware forum

[abu_has_the_power]

this was first talking about wether gforce 5200 could play those games, then it got sidetracked :blink:

[slammy_dunken]

Originally posted by i_have_a.d.d.@11 August 2003 - 13:16
ok now i dont think im a dumbass but a DorK yea idiot no but resourcefull no and smart no......but i know what numbers tell me that is good

ATI&#39;s r not shit and neigther R FX card&#39;s
but i know @ frys these cards R pretty cheap
but FX is cheaper just look FRY&#39;s electronics (http://www.outpost.com)

and the 5900 has ddr running @ a wommping 850MHZ&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;


hehehe i like 2 highlight stuff alot

P.S. not to be mean but this should really go in the hardware forum
If you heard, numbers don&#39;t really tell you much now. 3DMark found out that the 5900 was rigged so that it can do well in the 3DMark2003 benchmarking program. ATI&#39;s was also rigged, but when 3DMark released a patch that fixes the riggs, the stats show that the 9800Pro actually does well compared to the 5900 Ultra.

[silverccrow]

People stop waisting ur time relax .. just wait a few months and u will have more powerfull and cheaper stuff <_<

[WebCheF]

I have the GeforceFX5200ultra, and I don&#39;t studer a bit, but I do have about a gig of ddr ram, ? anyway ain&#39;t nothin wrong with a 128ddr gfx card, more is better but this aint bad..

[i_have_a.d.d.]

Originally posted by slammy_dunken+11 August 2003 - 15:27--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (slammy_dunken @ 11 August 2003 - 15:27)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-i_have_a.d.d.@11 August 2003 - 13:16
ok now i dont think im a dumbass but a DorK yea idiot no but resourcefull no and smart no......but i know what numbers tell me that is good

ATI&#39;s r not shit and neigther R FX card&#39;s
but i know @ frys these cards R pretty cheap
but FX is cheaper just look FRY&#39;s electronics (http://www.outpost.com)

and the 5900 has ddr running @ a wommping 850MHZ&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;


hehehe i like 2&nbsp; highlight&nbsp; stuff alot

P.S. not to be mean but this should really go in the hardware forum
If you heard, numbers don&#39;t really tell you much now. 3DMark found out that the 5900 was rigged so that it can do well in the 3DMark2003 benchmarking program. ATI&#39;s was also rigged, but when 3DMark released a patch that fixes the riggs, the stats show that the 9800Pro actually does well compared to the 5900 Ultra. [/b][/quote]
yea it does well but not better but yea well and say where do i get this 3dmark software i would like to test my PC with it(PS 850mhz is faster than Light )

[awb552000]

is doom 3 out yet i was waiting for it

[abu_has_the_power]

it&#39;s out march of 04

[huuramis]

to many posts to read. but if u havent bought the lcd yet thats good, dont get a 15" lcd, get a 17" and make sure its not a ADI because every last adi lcd montiro has color and power problems. sony is pretty good i here, but they are pricey yeh? .. and about the vid card, who said the gffx5900 is 200&#036; ??? ...where i am its a 600-700&#036; card. ( im in aus ).

i got

amd xp2000+
gffx5600 128mb ddr [leadtek]
512mb ddr

and doom III runs good at about 40fps untill i shoot a zombie then it goes to abuot 10fps lol.

ummmm 1 more thing, the gfti4600 [leadtek] is discontinued so good luck finding 1. you can find 2nd hand one maybe. i was gonna get the gfti4600 but i tried about 12 diff places and the dont stock and cant even order it from leadtek anymore.

well cya and good luck wif ya pc.

[abu_has_the_power]

thanks. if a gforce fx 5200 can&#39;t play doom 3 that well, at least it will be able to play half life 2, and most of the other games. besides, i&#39;m getting a new comp in 3 years, and i have my old 1 for 4 years, still working good. so i shouldn&#39;t have a prob. and besides, i don&#39;t have to set all the settings in doom 3 to extreme, just enough to play the game, like i said before. So thanks a lot people. if u want to post more, feel free to do so. but since i already bought the computer today, i guesst he discussion or argument if u will is pretty much over. thanks people 4 ur helpful contributions to help a fellow pirator. :lol: