Regional Accents

[chalice]

Ever heard your own voice on tape? It shatters your illusions no end.

When I hear people on the radio from my home town, I cringe like fuck. I can't stand my own accent.

I'd rather sound like Stephen fucking Hawking.

Do you like the sound of your own voice? And if not, what kind of accent would you like to have?

[CrabGirl]

Mine is weird. Sort of well-spoken (without being posh) with a hint of London twang and Devonshire Burr.

When I'm angry it's more Londony, and when I'm drunk it becomes more Devony.

I can't stand the sound of it.

[J-dye]

sometimes when on phone my speech echoes back and it sucks to hear a completly different voice :dabs:

what kind of accent would i like to have ??

http://us.movies1.yimg.com/movies.yahoo.com/images/hv/photo/movie_pix/columbia_pictures/snatch/benicio_del_toro/snatch.jpg

franky four fingers ftw :lol:

[Biggles]

I find listening to myself on tape horrible - don't know why it is just embarrassing. My accent is not fairly soft but I still cringe.

[kaffeine]

I don't like sound of my voice. It's too deep when I listen to it.

[J-dye]

wait a min , was that franky four fingers in snatch or Fred Fenster in the usual suspects who had a funny accent ? :unsure:

[chalice]

I traveled to New York a couple of years ago. This'll be great, says I, no language barriers like what you get in France and every other country in the world whose language I can't be arsed to learn.

It was worse than fucking Paris. No cunt could make out a word I was saying.

Found myself repeating myself to everybody. Think I might learn how to sign or something else. :dabs:

[baksteen]

i think i slurr a bit if i talk to fast. and i stutter sometimes with out realising it so no, i have got a south african accent :D

[chalice]

wait a min , was that franky four fingers in snatch or Fred Fenster in the usual suspects who had a funny accent ? :unsure:

Yes.

[J-dye]

oh it was Benicio Del Toro as Fred Fenster in the usual suspects :D

jBzYFR5wIbI

:glag:

[J-dye]

When you hear your voice recorded for the first time, it isn't usually something that you enjoy. It is a shock. Some wonder, "What's wrong with this equipment." Others are just stunned and flabbergasted.
It is actually quite a simple phenomenon though. How we think we sound is different then how we really sound.
Under normal circumstances our hearing is due to the sound waves on the air reaching our ears, "banging" our ear drums (yep that was a bad pun), vibrating the bones of the inner ear, stimulating the hair cells within the cochlea, changing into electronic signals which are then sent to the brain for interpretation. It is an amazing process, but the interpretation of sound is all based on sound waves.
There are a few things that can alter sound. For speaking purposes, the reason your voice sounds different when you speak then when you hear a recording of yourself is simple, it's all in your head. Not that you have gone crazy or anything, but the tissues and bones of your head effect the sound you hear. Your cochlea is stimulated by sound waves through the normal process, but also by the vibrations of your bones from the action of speaking. It causes you to hear yourself in two parts, the first out in the air through sound waves, and the second within yourself as vibrations.
The answer is simple, it's all in your head, literally!


:mellow:

[baksteen]

give me your keys you cockersucker

haha

[Mr JP Fugley]

I'm told I sound like a posh Pakistani.

Bearing in mind that was by an adult bloke who sounds like a wee, posh, English lassie.

"I can't chat just now"

Fucking oaf.

[chalice]

When you hear your voice recorded for the first time, it isn't usually something that you enjoy. It is a shock. Some wonder, "What's wrong with this equipment." Others are just stunned and flabbergasted.
It is actually quite a simple phenomenon though. How we think we sound is different then how we really sound.
Under normal circumstances our hearing is due to the sound waves on the air reaching our ears, "banging" our ear drums (yep that was a bad pun), vibrating the bones of the inner ear, stimulating the hair cells within the cochlea, changing into electronic signals which are then sent to the brain for interpretation. It is an amazing process, but the interpretation of sound is all based on sound waves.
There are a few things that can alter sound. For speaking purposes, the reason your voice sounds different when you speak then when you hear a recording of yourself is simple, it's all in your head. Not that you have gone crazy or anything, but the tissues and bones of your head effect the sound you hear. Your cochlea is stimulated by sound waves through the normal process, but also by the vibrations of your bones from the action of speaking. It causes you to hear yourself in two parts, the first out in the air through sound waves, and the second within yourself as vibrations.
The answer is simple, it's all in your head, literally!
:mellow:

Nice one.

That was good. Now I know why I sound like shite.

[Snee]

I hate mine, in several languages.

I used to have a fairly good proper (posh-ish :dabs:) british accent when i used it daily at skewl, then I got really out of practice. My intonation got really mad for a bit, and that was so funny I kept doing it, ended up sounding a bit welsh.

Then I didn't speak any english for a couple of years, and the next time I had to speak any (with some exchange student mongs, and some germans when I was in Germany) I sounded like a merkin.

I'm even more out of practice now, so I expect I'd sound somewhat merkin but mostly ace of base, 'cept when I catch myself and start pronuncing some words with a british accents :dabs:

In other words, I'm all over the place.

It's 'cos of t'telly, see. There's not much british stuff on, and tons of the merkin.

My native accent, like, currently sounds a bit like I'm a hick. It used to be less marked, but I find that the less I communicate with people, the more I revert to my original dialect, which is terrible.

People used to mistake me with people from further up north, but not today.


In other languages I just sound like a menthol, trying my way forward, like.

I fucking hate my own voice as well :dabs:

[chalice]

Glagging at the Ace Of Base reference, Snee.

Noice.

[Something Else]

I sound londonese. :(

[100%]

I actually heard your (chalice) voice once on gmailtalk (or whatever it was called),
as i recall,
it was smooth, deep, resonatingly barreled confident manly tone mixed with a unique accent just to add a specific regional flavor and not banal cliche voice.

You do not need a Stephen Hawking's voice, although for a few quid i can slit the cords.

[chalice]

I actually heard your (chalice) voice once on gmailtalk (or whatever it was called),
as i recall,
it was smooth, deep, resonatingly barreled confident manly tone mixed with a unique accent just to add a specific regional flavor and not banal cliche voice.

You do not need a Stephen Hawking's voice, although for a few quid i can slit the cords.

Zed, barring the cutting my throat thing, that was the nicest thing anybody has ever said to me.

:01:

[100%]

Yes, apart from the radio broadcaster voice, the conversation itself was not as exciting.

It went something like this
"Hello?"
"Hello?"
"Helllllllloooo?"
"Can you hear me?"
zed types - i can hear you
"I can't hear you"
zed types - I do not have a microphone
"Damn shame that is"
zed types - i'm new to this, was just trying it out
"Fuck you newb"
zed types - No fuck you
"do you want to hear me sing?"
zed types - why not? hit it
"lalalala lola la la lola etc etc

I don't exactly remember the convo, but it was your basic i got technical failure typo thing.

[chalice]

Yes, apart from the radio broadcaster voice, the conversation itself was not as exciting.

It went something like this
"Hello?"
"Hello?"
"Helllllllloooo?"
"Can you hear me?"
zed types - i can hear you
"I can't hear you"
zed types - I do not have a microphone
"Damn shame that is"
zed types - i'm new to this, was just trying it out
"Fuck you newb"
zed types - No fuck you
"do you want to hear me sing?"
zed types - why not? hit it
"lalalala lola la la lola etc etc

I don't exactly remember the convo, but it was your basic i got technical failure typo thing.

:glag:

Quality.

I have a much better singing voice. True story.

Maybe I should pretend life is a musical and everything'll be sorted.

But not Sweeney Todd, you fucking psychopath.

[Biggles]

Yes, apart from the radio broadcaster voice, the conversation itself was not as exciting.

It went something like this
"Hello?"
"Hello?"
"Helllllllloooo?"
"Can you hear me?"
zed types - i can hear you
"I can't hear you"
zed types - I do not have a microphone
"Damn shame that is"
zed types - i'm new to this, was just trying it out
"Fuck you newb"
zed types - No fuck you
"do you want to hear me sing?"
zed types - why not? hit it
"lalalala lola la la lola etc etc

I don't exactly remember the convo, but it was your basic i got technical failure typo thing.

:glag:

Quality.

I have a much better sining voice. True story.

Maybe I should pretend life is a musical and everything'll be sorted.

But not Sweeney Todd, you fucking psychopath.

She said, "My boy, I think someday
You'll find a way
To make your natural tendencies pay
You'll be a dentist
You have a talent for causin' things pain
Son, be a dentist

sort of thing like

[chalice]

Little Shop Of Horrors ftw, Les.

You fucking genius who listens to the same type of musics as moi.

[CrabGirl]

it was smooth, deep, resonatingly barreled confident manly tone mixed with a unique accent just to add a specific regional flavor and not banal cliche voice.


I knew it! :wub: :drool: :naughty:

[brotherdoobie]

it was smooth, deep, resonatingly barreled confident manly tone mixed with a unique accent just to add a specific regional flavor and not banal cliche voice.


I knew it! :wub: :drool: :naughty:

My wife also enjoys a proper Irish accent. I've tried numerous times to imitate an Irishman when I've been drinking (usually Bushmills) and she says; I sound like a gay Australian pirate with a hint of the Lucky Charms lad thrown in.

True story.

[chalice]

it was smooth, deep, resonatingly barreled confident manly tone mixed with a unique accent just to add a specific regional flavor and not banal cliche voice.


I knew it! :wub: :drool: :naughty:

If only that were true, sweetheart.

If you heard my brogue you'd kick me repeatedly in the teeth.

But, for me, it would be totally worth it.

[chalice]

I knew it! :wub: :drool: :naughty:

My wife also enjoys a proper Irish accent. I've tried numerous times to imitate an Irishman when I've been drinking (usually Bushmills) and she says; I sound like a gay Australian pirate with a hint of the Lucky Charms lad thrown in.

True story.

Multi-cultural marital sex ftw.

I just confused even myself there. :blink:

[Lilmiss]

I'm, pinky out whilst drinking tea, hella porsh.

Believe it or not. :smilie4:

[CrabGirl]

I knew it! :wub: :drool: :naughty:

If only that were true, sweetheart.

If you heard my brogue you'd kick me repeatedly in the teeth.

But, for me, it would be totally worth it.

But I especially like the accent from Northern Irelandishire, and singing songs from my favorite musical would be totally win.

"Feed me Seymour" would sound awesome.

I must say the same doesn't go for women from Northern Ireland. I get them on the phone and there is something about the timbre of their voices which sets my eardrum physically rattling and I have to set my phone to "Harpy" to filter out the bad notes.

[manicgeek]

I find listening to myself on tape horrible - don't know why it is just embarrassing. My accent is not fairly soft but I still cringe.

I'd cringe if I had an accent like that too ;)

[j2k4]

I sound fine in all circumstances, and if I choose, I can sound positively awesome.

I'm quite sure you all sound fine as well, but lack confidence for some silly reason. :whistling

[chalice]

If only that were true, sweetheart.

If you heard my brogue you'd kick me repeatedly in the teeth.

But, for me, it would be totally worth it.

But I especially like the accent from Northern Irelandishire, and singing songs from my favorite musical would be totally win.

"Feed me Seymour" would sound awesome.

I must say the same doesn't go for women from Northern Ireland. I get them on the phone and there is something about the timbre of their voices which sets my eardrum physically rattling and I have to set my phone to "Harpy" to filter out the bad notes.

That's an insult to harpies, like.

The female Belfast accent is a cruel and unusual punishment. As you know, I do the wages for a call centre with about three quarters of the staff being Belfast 'millies' (as we call them).

I pity the poor fuckers on the receiving end of their sales pitch. I'm used to it but their victims must feeling like they're getting their ears ironed.

[CrabGirl]

Ironed? Punched with one of these more like.

http://www.geocities.com/TimesSquare/Alley/8973/som_pics/glove.jpg

[Biggles]

Ironed? Punched with one of these more like.

http://www.geocities.com/TimesSquare/Alley/8973/som_pics/glove.jpg

Your winter gloves I see

[Squeamous]

Had the misfortune to hear myself on video the other day and I sound awful :(. Bit like CG, in that my voice changes when drunk. I sound really Londonish then, hence acquiring the nickname 'cockney wanker' through uni. When sober I have a faintly Janet Street-Porterish way of pronouncing words, and on account of the tongue stud sometimes slur certain words, especially if they're a bit tongue-twisting.

On the subject of British accents in America, I found they tended to think I was Australian. They're just not used to hearing foreign accents from other developed countries I think :unsure:.

[Something Else]

Your voice must be well messed up, like. Janet S-P. :lol:

[Squeamous]

Tell me about it :(. I'm surprised I haven't had my head stoved in yet.

[Something Else]

:lol: I'm more surprised that she hasn't.

[Squeamous]

She became 1000% safer when she stopped being the Editor of the Independent :dry:.

[Biggles]

If JSP had a stud as well as the teeth would she be able to speak at all? :unsure:

With the JSP it is the opinions/voice/attitude combination that is so stoveable.

[Squeamous]

I reckon she would actually sound normal. I vote we hunt her down and mutilate her tongue to find out. Who's with me?

[chalice]

Here is a prime example of a Belfast millie.

She displays perfect stupidity and her voice is like a fire drill to boot.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eUNDvAGWMkY

[Biggles]

I reckon she would actually sound normal. I vote we hunt her down and mutilate her tongue to find out. Who's with me?

That sounds like a blood sport for all the family.

[Biggles]

Not sure if this will work. This gem was posted here years ago

http://www.glasgowsurvival.co.uk/belters/big_oggy.wav

[Squeamous]

She sounds like a nice lady!

[chalice]

Not sure if this will work. This gem was posted here years ago

http://www.glasgowsurvival.co.uk/belters/big_oggy.wav

Glag!!

You wanna take 50 quid ay my boay? I'll go doon there and take 50 quid outta yoor fuckin' face.

Quality. But painful quality.

[Squeamous]

I loved the end bit! Psycho! :lol:

[Biggles]

"I hope I haven't disturbed you"

class!

[clocker]

On the subject of British accents in America, I found they tended to think I was Australian. They're just not used to hearing foreign accents from other developed countries I think :unsure:.
Whereas the average Brit could unerringly differentiate between a Philadelphia accent and a Wisconsinite?

[Squeamous]

I think probably I could distinguish accents from different continents.

[Biggles]

On the subject of British accents in America, I found they tended to think I was Australian. They're just not used to hearing foreign accents from other developed countries I think :unsure:.
Whereas the average Brit could unerringly differentiate between a Philadelphia accent and a Wisconsinite?

People live in Wisconsin? :O

[chalice]

I will have no fights in this thread, thank youse very much.

Unless it's done in your respective regional vernaculars.

That would be nice.

[Proper Bo]

On the subject of British accents in America, I found they tended to think I was Australian. They're just not used to hearing foreign accents from other developed countries I think :unsure:.

The last merkin I spoke to said I spoke good english and asked where I learnt it. They thought I was dutch or something:dabs:

[Mr JP Fugley]

I think probably I could distinguish accents from different continents.

:lol: :quality pwnage:

[Mr JP Fugley]

Whereas the average Brit could unerringly differentiate between a Philadelphia accent and a Wisconsinite?

People live in Wisconsin? :O

There's a place called Wisconsin :O

[Barbarossa]

On the subject of British accents in America, I found they tended to think I was Australian. They're just not used to hearing foreign accents from other developed countries I think :unsure:.

The last merkin I spoke to said I spoke good english and asked where I learnt it. They thought I was dutch or something:dabs:

:glagpinch: :earl:

[Snee]

WRT hearing the difference between accents, between continents.

I have problems distinguishing between some Australians and New Zeelanders talking, otherwise I reckon that isn't tricky.

I'm also pretty sure I can determine where some merkins are from in the U.S. Areas in places like Boston and Queens have fairly distinct accents. And at the very least I can tell if someone is from the north or south. Can't always keep all canadians apart from americans from up north, though.

To some extent I can do the same with british english. I can normally easily hear the difference between southerners, northeners, welsh and scots, at the very least. And I can also tell if someone is irish.

It's not even my native tongue :dabs: In fact, I'd say that the difference between some accents in english is easier to make out than the difference between some in my own language.

Obviously my interests and education has leaned towards languages in a big way. But even so, I still find it incredible when someone has a problem with hearing where some people with really thick accents are from.

I've noticed a few americans, people I know on the internet, referring to bands like Snow Patrol as english, or some australian/new zeelander as the same, though.


I wonder what I'd pass for in the U.S. :unsure:

I reckon the way Americans have a problem hearing the difference between stuff I think is obviously not the same has a lot to do with their media consumption, and a fair bit to do with that american english is less varied than british english.

Most stuff that airs in america has all americans talking, and often when there's a briton in some piece of fiction, he or she is played by an american with an american idea of what britons sound like, while british actors often try to sound american.

At the same time America has a lot less linguistic drift (if I remember my realia classes correctly), or less different accents. Which has something to do with America being settled by people only from some select parts of the british isles, from the british side of the equation. Obviously immigration from other parts of the world has affected american accents in different ways, but they still haven't caught up with the plethora of different ways of saying stuff there is in the UK, AFAIK.

That may mean the average american gets less practice hearing the difference between accents, like.


I dunno, really :idunno:

Not really sure why I bothered writing all that, like.

[Squeamous]

Yeah, an' also the fact that their primary contact seems to be wiv people oo go there 'cos few Americans 'ave ever bin aahtside America mate.

(okay Chalice?)

[clocker]

Whereas the average Brit could unerringly differentiate between a Philadelphia accent and a Wisconsinite?

People live in Wisconsin? :O
Yes, that's where Australia shipped all it's criminals.
Leading to the iconic phrase, "Throw a little lutefisk on the barbie, mate?"


Yeah, an' also the fact that their primary contact seems to be wiv people oo go there 'cos few Americans 'ave ever bin aahtside America mate.
True.
The one or two who do manage to leave the country seem to prefer Iraq to England, oddly enough.

[Mr JP Fugley]

People live in Wisconsin? :O
Yes, that's where Australia shipped all it's criminals.
Leading to the iconic phrase, "Throw a little lutefisk on the barbie, mate?"



Stop dabbling, I've told you before. It does you no favours.

[clocker]

Must be my accent...

[Squeamous]

True.
The one or two who do manage to leave the country seem to prefer Iraq to England, oddly enough.

That's because soldiers don't need passports. Seems an extreme way to avoid going to a bit of effort though :unsure:.

[clocker]

That's because soldiers don't need passports. Seems an extreme way to avoid going to a bit of effort though :unsure:.
Not true.
Soldiers DO need passports.

[WarrenBuffet]

My voice is beautiful.

[Squeamous]

That's because soldiers don't need passports. Seems an extreme way to avoid going to a bit of effort though :unsure:.
Not true.
Soldiers DO need passports.

Well knock me down with a feather.

[trackrider]

Soldiers here are also required to have passport. It seems it is one of the things changed with the increase in homeland security.

[Mr JP Fugley]

Not true.
Soldiers DO need passports.

Well knock me down with a feather.

Your facts are all over the place today

[Mr JP Fugley]

Why would an invading force need a passport.

[Mr JP Fugley]

It's to get back in isn't it.

[Mr JP Fugley]

No that doesn't make sense, they would come back on a military plane so why would they need to go through passport control.

[Mr JP Fugley]

Hoi Clocker, why do soldiers need passports.

[Biggles]

Hoi Clocker, why do soldiers need passports.

Most countries require at least three visa stamps before an invasion although they are allowed to skip the "do you intend to overthrow the government question".

[Mr JP Fugley]

Do you know, Les.

I can't work it out.

[Mr JP Fugley]

I can understand if they are like just visiting a Country. I assume they must have one the same as anyone else, even if they are on military duties.

However not for the serious business of soldiering.

[Biggles]

I can understand if they are like just visiting a Country. I assume they must have one the same as anyone else, even if they are on military duties.

However not for the serious business of soldiering.

The US have huge numbers of soldiers posted in Japan, S Korea and Germany. These are not active roles as such and consequently they tend to go in and out under normal rules. Due to the rotation of troops most get a stint in one of these slots and therefore need a passport. I like the idea of lining up for a visa stamp though - very Duck Soup.

[Squeamous]

I couldn't be arsed with it last night.

Basically if you're travelling for private/civilian reasons you need one. I should also imagine that if you're going to a base overseas in peacetime different countries will have different passport/Visa requirements. If you're on military business invading a country like Iraq, you would only need a military ID. Clocker of course was suggesting that Americans prefer to go to Iraq because it's more fun than England (you can pretty much torture indiscriminately over there and no one tells you off if in high spirits you accidentally shoot a friend. There is also ice cream and McDonalds on demand). I made a humorous quip about it being a bit excessive to go to war just to avoid getting a passport given that last time I looked only a third of Americans had them. However this point managed to deftly sidestep the Clockmeister and caused a serious sense of humour failure. That's where we're at so far.

To bring us up to date, I can't quite see the invading American forces queueing up at Iraqi passport control languidly kicking the tracks of their tanks waiting for their passports to be checked, tutting loudly about how long it took for their luggage to come through on the carousel.

[Mr JP Fugley]

I'm taking that as a maybe, it depends.

[Squeamous]

Manicgeek would know :shifty:

[Biggles]

To bring us up to date, I can't quite see the invading American forces queueing up at Iraqi passport control languidly kicking the tracks of their tanks waiting for their passports to be checked, tutting loudly about how long it took for their luggage to come through on the carousel.

Perhaps not - but in my world them would be the rules :shifty:

Clocker rarely has a failure on the humour front so one suspects he is being a bit of a tease :shifty:

[Squeamous]

Ah! Then I should have got into a long boring dialogue about it rather than just giving up? I'll remember for next time.

[Alien5]

Manicgeek would know if he ever watched the news :shifty: fixed :sly:

[Squeamous]

:lol:

No, bad....mustn't laugh.....

[clocker]

My only recent info re: soldiers and passports comes from my nephew who recently spent his spring break out here with me.
He is a third year cadet at West Point.

Whenever traveling off campus (base?) he is required to carry a special military passport, presumably for emergency use to reconnect to his assigned unit wherever they may have gotten to in his absence.

I have no idea what the procedure is when a unit is shipped overseas- obviously they do not go through Iraqi Customs (if such a thing even exists).

[brotherdoobie]

It depends. Some countries allow an U.S. military I.D. - to be used as a passport.


-bd

[Something Else]

Using a U.S. Military I.D. as a passport is suicide. Shirley.

http://www.jonco48.com/blog/kitchen_20soldier.jpg

[brotherdoobie]

Using a U.S. Military I.D. as a passport is suicide. Shirley.

http://www.jonco48.com/blog/kitchen_20soldier.jpg




Only if you're going to Wisconsin. They don't like us merkins.


-bd