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Simulador
05-19-2008, 10:50 PM
Hey people :) today i was at school and i started thinking....i have a lot of trackers,a lot of them i tried very hard to get em til i did...so,i think in my experience,the list of rarity of levels could have some changes,again,this is on my own experience,i'm sure the people who did the list had another experiences trying to get in those sites....anyway i'll leave the list lvl 3+ according to my thoughts...if a tracker is not on the list it's probably cause i think it's under lvl 3.

(There are some lvl 3 that i dont have so i cant speak for them,i'll just leave them on three)

FinBytes[7] - NCore[7] - PeerPortal[8] - Pisexy[7] - Pretorians[7] - RevolutionTT[10] - TorrentLeech[10] - TTi[7]

BT-Arg[6] - PirateBits[8] - Snowtigers[6]

BitMe[9] - BTMusic[8]**** - DeepBassNine[7] - DesiTorrents[8] - KaraGarga[9] - IndieTorrents[7] - RMVBusters[7] - TheDVDClub[8] - ThePlace[7] - TheVault[7] - TvT.ro[7] - Waffles[8] - What[8] TranceRoute[7] (http://filesharingtalk.com/vb3/p-what-invites-worth-with-reviews-and-ratings-post1870866/postcount2129)

Level 4

FileList[6] - HDBits[10] - DarkSide[7] (http://filesharingtalk.com/vb3/p-tracker-reviews-post2687393/postcount216) - IPLAY[8] (http://filesharingtalk.com/vb3/p-tracker-reviews-post2472153/postcount160) - Thor'sLand[6] (http://filesharingtalk.com/vb3/p-tracker-reviews-post2623502/postcount209)- TS-Tracker[8] (http://filesharingtalk.com/vb3/p-what-invites-worth-with-reviews-and-ratings-post1997299/postcount3703) - SCL (http://filesharingtalk.com/vb3/p-what-trackers-worth-with-reviews-and-ratings-post2459386/postcount9069)[8] - Blackcats Games [10]

Level 5:

Music-Vids[9] - (http://filesharingtalk.com/vb3/p-what-invites-worth-with-reviews-and-ratings-post1867388/postcount2040)PolishTracker[9] (http://filesharingtalk.com/vb3/p-what-invites-worth-with-reviews-and-ratings-post2324411/postcount7548) - ITS[8] (http://filesharingtalk.com/vb3/p-tracker-reviews-post2585927/postcount203) - ScT[10]*** (http://filesharingtalk.com/vb3/p-what-invites-worth-with-reviews-and-ratings-post2318237/postcount7439) - BitMeTV[10] (http://filesharingtalk.com/vb3/p-what-invites-worth-with-reviews-and-ratings-post2311329/postcount7337)

Level 6:

Bithumen[8] (http://filesharingtalk.com/vb3/p-tracker-reviews-post2488170/postcount183) - Norbits[8] (http://filesharingtalk.com/vb3/p-what-invites-worth-and-tracker-reviews-post1677693/postcount642) - AOM[8] - (http://filesharingtalk.com/vb3/p-what-invites-worth-with-reviews-and-ratings-post1911709/postcount2671)Elektronik[8] (http://filesharingtalk.com/vb3/p-what-invites-worth-with-reviews-and-ratings-post2253265/postcount6519)

Level 7:

TranceTraffic - SweDVDR

Level 8:

FTN - FSC

Level 9:

F*** - E****

Level 10:

U*-*

****: I'll leave them where they are cause you can pay your way in,but they should be up if they close that

Cheers!

ps: make your lists if you want

stoi
05-19-2008, 10:52 PM
My list is

No rarity levels, just have everything on quality and there wouldnt be so much crap going on.

1000possibleclaws
05-19-2008, 10:53 PM
make suggestions in the wtaw thread. it WILL be updated soon, ive talked to a mod about it today. I personally think the thread is pretty accurate as it is however

F.B.I
05-19-2008, 10:53 PM
My list is

No rarity levels, just have everything on quality and there wouldnt be so much crap going on.

Simple as that.

1000possibleclaws
05-19-2008, 10:54 PM
My list is

No rarity levels, just have everything on quality and there wouldnt be so much crap going on.

that's what the WTO thread is for, and i agree with you, although this site isn't 'anti-trade' so it should still have a rarity ranking. for everyone saying they agree, just IGNORE the wtaw thread and use the WTO thread instead. christ..

dammit fbi, i counted on that post merging lol

Simulador
05-19-2008, 10:58 PM
i dont think levels are just for traders thou...i'm not a trader and i like them...:D

QstorM
05-19-2008, 10:58 PM
My list is

No rarity levels, just have everything on quality and there wouldnt be so much crap going on.


++1;

If levels were decided on quality we all know sct would win:yup:

monk3y
05-19-2008, 11:00 PM
Hey there you forgot Mango - level 176

abcjim
05-19-2008, 11:01 PM
idk, i like the levels, before I found this website, i didnt realize how lucky i was to have some of these.

ligerpt
05-19-2008, 11:04 PM
This rarity ranking thing is the biggest cancer of this tracker world. I have no doubt of it.

stoi
05-19-2008, 11:04 PM
My list is

No rarity levels, just have everything on quality and there wouldnt be so much crap going on.


++1;

If levels were decided on quality we all know sct would win:yup:

well they wouldnt, SCT BitmeTV and BCG all have 10 to name but a few, so it would be a draw. lol

But my point is, everyone knows that lvl 7-10 trackers are hard to get into, why tell us that, we already bloody know it. and it gives thouse that want to sell accounts, invites, more cash when they do sell them.

Thats the whole problem imo, its got nowt to do with trading, its selling that gets on my tits, and even though FST does not allow selling, this list is still used to see what the going rate is on each tracker.

kooftspc11
05-19-2008, 11:07 PM
My list is

No rarity levels, just have everything on quality and there wouldnt be so much crap going on.

ideally, yes, it would work like that. the reality of the matter is that as long as there is a demand for a finite product, somebody will be willing to turn a profit from it. we dont need a WTAW levels thread because over time people will make up their own levels in their head and we will be in the same situation.

long live capitalism and free enterprise!!!

Nemrod
05-19-2008, 11:12 PM
I only care, and no much, about WTO thread... I find some reviews very interesting, although most of them are absolutely useful, just a bunch of print screens. The level thread is like a disease, a very harmful disease in my opinion..

BOOM
05-19-2008, 11:15 PM
Hey people :) today i was at school and i started thinking....
omg, dude, I will tell to your mother that u are think about torrents at school instead of study :rolleyes:

stoi
05-19-2008, 11:16 PM
well i dont agree with BCG being lvl4 either

2008-05 4279
2008-04 3943

thats how many new members we have taken, the last 2 months.

some lvl 1 trackers probably have not taken that many in.

Simulador
05-19-2008, 11:19 PM
yeah but that's just these two months,before that i had tried and tried for a couple of months and i couldnt get in,and,correct me if i'm wrong (probably i am :d) but i think someday it will go back to what it was

1000possibleclaws
05-19-2008, 11:22 PM
yeah but that's just these two months,before that i had tried and tried for a couple of months and i couldnt get in,and,correct me if i'm wrong (probably i am :d) but i think someday it will go back to what it was

wtaw is about supply and demand, not about guesing the future

stoi
05-19-2008, 11:23 PM
yeah but that's just these two months,before that i had tried and tried for a couple of months and i couldnt get in,and,correct me if i'm wrong (probably i am :d) but i think someday it will go back to what it was


your wrong lol

we are moving servers soon, so we will be closing for a couple of weeks after that just to take stock and see how the new server reacts with what we have,

but if everything is fine, then we will be opening again. (the same way as we are now) and if i get my way, it will be forever, i hate staying closed, everything just goes stagnant and its boring as hell)

kooftspc11
05-19-2008, 11:24 PM
yeah but that's just these two months,before that i had tried and tried for a couple of months and i couldnt get in,and,correct me if i'm wrong (probably i am :d) but i think someday it will go back to what it was

wtaw is about supply and demand, not about guesing the future

LOL yeah just read my post above

IdolEyes787
05-19-2008, 11:31 PM
Quality is always more important than rarity obviously but it can't stop me from wondering what sites that I don't have access to are like.
But then again I'm not going to spend my life worrying about it either.:lol:

kooftspc11
05-19-2008, 11:34 PM
Quality is always more important than rarity obviously but it can't stop me from wondering what sites that I don't have access to are like.
But then again I'm not going to spend my life worrying about it either.:lol:

i used to wonder what a $200 kobe steak tasted like.....nothing special

stoi
05-20-2008, 12:02 AM
members say supply and demand lol

But without this thread there would be no demand for the High level trackers, maybe F** but other than that, i cant see it myself.

and the supply is done on this thread as well, very little supply = a lot more demand (or it seems that way).

And as you can see, we have taken about 9,000 members in the last month, but thats because we have actually limited it to that with the way we take registrations now. so the supply is there, because their are open spaces, the demand is there because members are getting in.

So the supply and demand is on trading and selling, thats all the supply and demand is, and as that is against every tracker thats lvl 4 and aboves rule(and maybe some lower than 4 as well) then this thread goes against the very trackers rules, which is why a lot of trackers hate FST and this thread.)

Sorry, just telling it like it is.

wether you like it or not, this thread, encourages trading and selling.

kooftspc11
05-20-2008, 12:09 AM
members say supply and demand lol

But without this thread there would be no demand for the High level trackers, maybe F** but other than that, i cant see it myself.

and the supply is done on this thread as well, very little supply = a lot more demand (or it seems that way).

And as you can see, we have taken about 9,000 members in the last month, but thats because we have actually limited it to that with the way we take registrations now. so the supply is there, because their are open spaces, the demand is there because members are getting in.

So the supply and demand is on trading and selling, thats all the supply and demand is, and as that is against every tracker thats lvl 4 and aboves rule(and maybe some lower than 4 as well) then this thread goes against the very trackers rules, which is why a lot of trackers hate FST and this thread.)

Sorry, just telling it like it is.

wether you like it or not, this thread, encourages trading and selling.

if you spend a little time in almost any trackers irc or forums (the ones that allow invite giving/requesting) you will eventually learn about all of those weirdo sites that not too many people can get into. it is also a safe bet that when these tracker names are being thrown around there will also be some mention of how hard it is to get into them...and so the hunt begins.

at some point, i made a trade to get into what is now my favorite tracker. i know it is against site rules and bla bla bla but it took what it took and i dont regret it at all.

human nature trumps levels ten-fold

stoi
05-20-2008, 12:21 AM
well how often do you here members even just talking about sites that are not in this thread, like the ones that are in the post all private and public sites in here thread.

What gives a tracker something to get in this thread in the first place, i dont know, and i didnt even know we were in it till the middle of last year, when i came back onto here after a long absence.

So i did not give my consent for us to be on there, or was asked at all for that matter.

Its like the trackers are in this list, are the only trackers that matter, when there are many more out there, including tose in the post public and private trackers, that are probably just as good or even better than some trackers in this list.

I just think that a tracker listing on rarity is daft, what is it for exactly, its not just to give members that are in them a bigger e-penis, even though it does do that as well. to me its just a pointless thread.

kooftspc11
05-20-2008, 12:33 AM
well how often do you here members even just talking about sites that are not in this thread, like the ones that are in the post all private and public sites in here thread.

What gives a tracker something to get in this thread in the first place, i dont know, and i didnt even know we were in it till the middle of last year, when i came back onto here after a long absence.

So i did not give my consent for us to be on there, or was asked at all for that matter.

Its like the trackers are in this list, are the only trackers that matter, when there are many more out there, including tose in the post public and private trackers, that are probably just as good or even better than some trackers in this list.

I just think that a tracker listing on rarity is daft, what is it for exactly, its not just to give members that are in them a bigger e-penis, even though it does do that as well. to me its just a pointless thread.

my personal experience...

i used to use btjunkie to search for torrents. the problem with btjunkie was that it indexed torrents from alot of private sites. whenever i searched for a torrent, the only good one with a decent seed/leech ratio were on revolutionTT. I didn't even know what a private site was back then. i had no way of getting on this site though because it was not open signup and i didnt know this forum existed. one night, i was searching on google about DRM and found this forum. after a few weeks of being here i was able to get into the invites section and look for RevTT.

ive never been on a search for high-level trackers...it simply does not interest me all that much. there are tons of trackers out there and i dont have the patience or the means to find all of them and try them out. i use the WTAW and WTO thread to get a better perspective as to what types of sites there are out there and the quality they have to offer. if it wasn't for FST i would never have known about bcg...i probably wouldn't have even known that there were dedicated game trackers.

stoi
05-20-2008, 01:06 AM
ok, but why have rarity levels in the first place.

you could have found that out in the WTO thread. but from what i can remember, some trackers that are in the WTO thread are not in this thread and Vice versa, wonder why that is?

i still think that having this list si a waste of time and space, and lets be honest, not many members see the [#] next to the name, all they see is the lvl its at.

and dnt you think those at the highest lvls dont want just anyone in, or even knowing about the site, but they are still up there, and it also puts them on a pedastal as well.

If the WTO thread was done on the [#] and there was no rating lvl, no one would want the lvl 10 tracker, or most of the lvl 5-9 trackers either if truth be told. because they would be down the list on that lvl 6-7 not lvl 9-10.

and i have to say the even [#] rating is a bit screwed, i dont see any that are rated from 1-5 i think the lowest is 6, so why not have it a 1-5 rating.

but whatever I or anyone else says will not change the way its done, i still think is utterly pointless though lol

AdεεL
05-20-2008, 01:23 AM
Well if a tracker is rare, it is considered elite among most of bt'ers even though it may have crap pretimes, pathetic speeds.

And sorry to say, few people have started their trackers recently just because they want to see them higher in tracker list. I mean what else their intention would be by keeping userbase less than 2k.

Simulador
05-20-2008, 01:34 AM
it's not my intention to encourage trading or selling,i just like to chat about BitTorrent and the levels of the sites are a part of it

stoi
05-20-2008, 01:48 AM
well i havnt put much thought into this, but the way it should be done, is 1 thread.

i dont think we can do html tables in the posts, ive tried before and it didnt work. but it should be something like, but formatting this will be a bitch. btw we can skip rarity for me, but putting it in there to make some others happy lol tracker name will be linked to the review as well.

Tracker Name..Content..Pre times..Speed..Seeds..Leechers..Members..Rarity.
Blah blah blah .......8...................6.......6........3000........450.............5000............7....

and keep going down like that.

Maybe even add

Open
yes/IO/SO/NO

yes is open signup
IO is Invite only
SO is staff can only give invites
NO is no invites and no hope of getting in.

Going to post this now, no idea on how it will look though lol

1000possibleclaws
05-20-2008, 02:00 AM
stoi, why dont you make that? if you keep it updated it will probably get stickied. even if you just make it, someone else would surely keep it updated.

stoi
05-20-2008, 02:05 AM
well 1st

Im not a member of any other tracker lol so all the details would be blank, as i dont know them.

2nd members cant do html tables in the forums, not sure if staff can though, so it will be really hard to format. If you look at the allowed clients list on BCG, something like that table wise would be perfect.

3rd, i just havnt got the time, i come up with the suggestion, someone else can do it if they want to lol

killercam101
05-20-2008, 02:35 AM
how come no porn trackers made the list~

sabre
05-20-2008, 03:41 AM
i agree with stoi, the rarity list should be scraped and replaced with a list which focuses on pretime (for 0day trackers), content and speed. it would give a much better ranking of the sites. its stupid how some trackers who recently opened are invite only with 1-2k members just so they can get a higher rating on the rarity list. maybe like:

sometracker: speed: 10 content: 10 pretime: 10 (or NA for non-0day trackers) staff: 5 overall: 8

someone step up to the plate and do it! :D

stoi
05-20-2008, 04:00 AM
well you have an idea how it will work but maybe add.

Fav : Name : Seeds : Leechers: Members : Torrents: Pre : Rarity : Speed : Content : Community : Usage: Open : Overall : Type : Updated

Fav = Favicon pic
Name = tracker name linked to review
Seeds = Seeds
Leechers = Leechers
Members = Members
Torrent = # of alive torrents on the tracker
Pre = Pre Time # from 1-10 or even a % out of 100 if you want (same for the ones below)
Rarity = how hard it is to get in, but again, you can scrap this for me.
Speed = Speed when you download from the tracker
Content = Number of torrents, and Quality of the torrents
Community = how active are the forums, and the torrent comments
Usage = how easy it is to keep a ratio easy/medium/hard
Open = Like i said in my previous post
Overall = overall rating maybe this one could be out of 100%
Type = 0day/games/ebooks/movie etc etc
Updated = just the date it was updated by whomever updates it.

You could also have the columns sortable as well but that might take javascript which imnot sure you can do in a forum thread.

I will probably come up with more columns later, but that will do for now lol

and you could add staff in there somewhere as well lol cheers for the poster above me who mentioned that

DV8type
05-20-2008, 04:54 AM
<<< #1 tracker in my book. The only tracker i cant do without

C-mos
05-20-2008, 05:21 AM
w0w dv8 ..the tracker that i would like :)
;)

Swift
05-20-2008, 06:19 AM
Fking rarity`s and levels I hate them

maverick_andy
05-20-2008, 04:24 PM
I hate rarity tracker too but they give some rare files with gud speed.

BitME was really a gr8 learning tracker for me i ever come across.

Cabalo
05-20-2008, 05:45 PM
stoi's idea is excellent.
the html formatting can be solved by hosting a webpage outside the forum, but linked to the thread.
The thread itself would be used for discussion purposes, and the simple webpage could be easily updated/modified.

It's pure and simple HTML.
I will give it a try and post here a sample later.

WTAW
05-20-2008, 05:58 PM
stoi's idea is excellent.
the html formatting can be solved by hosting a webpage outside the forum, but linked to the thread.
The thread itself would be used for discussion purposes, and the simple webpage could be easily updated/modified.

It's pure and simple HTML.
I will give it a try and post here a sample later.

Cabalo if you're serious about making the initial coding for the table and it ends up looking neat and has the ability to sort by columns, you can pm me or the WTO (including the code of course) and we'll try and make it work.

dunson
05-20-2008, 06:37 PM
Cool stuff. I like the idea a lot. I think those threads are really lacking myself. The WTAW thread is just silly and the WTO thread is way too clunky.

stoi
05-21-2008, 01:25 AM
well the reason i came up with this idea was, because i just think the way it is done atm.

Everyone can read the WTO thread, and lets be honest its not the easiest to read and its very out of date, and a lot of info and trackers are missing from it.

Then we have the WTAW thread, which again lets be honest, its main emphasis is rarity, so members read it and it seems to me at least, rarity is the be all and end all of why a tracker is ranked and how good it is.

This way, all the oprions are in 1 list. witch is sortable, so if you want to sort by rarity you can, but its not the main emphasis of the list, every column has its own equal emphasis to the user thats sorting.

OK it may take awhile for members to not go straight to the Rarity sort column, but im sure that after awhile rarity wont mean that big of a deal, and we can judge trackers for what they are there for, to be used and wether it will be a place you would like or not.

I do think the reviews could be re-written as well, and by an impartial member (not staff of that tracker) and in the review, actually explain how you got those numbers for this table, just a lot more in depth than a bunch of screenshots from 6 months ago type thing.

ligerpt
05-21-2008, 01:37 AM
well you have an idea how it will work but maybe add.

Fav : Name : Seeds : Leechers: Members : Torrents: Pre : Rarity : Speed : Content : Community : Usage: Open : Overall : Type : Updated

Fav = Favicon pic
Name = tracker name linked to review
Seeds = Seeds
Leechers = Leechers
Members = Members
Torrent = # of alive torrents on the tracker
Pre = Pre Time # from 1-10 or even a % out of 100 if you want (same for the ones below)
Rarity = how hard it is to get in, but again, you can scrap this for me.
Speed = Speed when you download from the tracker
Content = Number of torrents, and Quality of the torrents
Community = how active are the forums, and the torrent comments
Usage = how easy it is to keep a ratio easy/medium/hard
Open = Like i said in my previous post
Overall = overall rating maybe this one could be out of 100%
Type = 0day/games/ebooks/movie etc etc
Updated = just the date it was updated by whomever updates it.

You could also have the columns sortable as well but that might take javascript which imnot sure you can do in a forum thread.

I will probably come up with more columns later, but that will do for now lol

and you could add staff in there somewhere as well lol cheers for the poster above me who mentioned that

I think Stoi's idea is great an sooner or later a list like this will be the "official" list.
I wouldn´t put that much information though, so it can be easier updated. But that's an excellent base to work for.