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apextwin146
07-16-2008, 06:15 AM
This is in reference to this post :-

http://filesharingtalk.com/vb3/p-movietorrents-post2894444/postcount24

I think the only thing now that can make users stick to a particular site is exclusive content.
Now since we have so many sites offering 0day, music( various kinds) , movies , games etc i was wondering wat would encompass exclusive content??
(unless u got a team of rippers whu only release to ur site .)

onlinetragedy
07-16-2008, 06:24 AM
most of the time thats referring to packs thrown together by the sites uploaders

sometimes its a webcast rip, sometimes not scene, i.e. some of the caps found on hdbits

Ghostbusters
07-16-2008, 06:34 AM
I think the only thing now that can make users stick to a particular site is exclusive content.


I don't agree with this really, think about this way, think of your favourite bar / club at home, now think of all the other bar's & club's in your town, they'll all sell drinks & most of them will sell the same kinds of drinks.

I think you can see where I'm going with this fairly poor analogy where the clubs are your torrent sites & the drinks are the files.

They're basically all serving the same thing but it's something else that keeps you going back to the places you do.

The company, the atmosphere, the special offers etc etc

pffft it's all been said a million times before over & over :)

apextwin146
07-16-2008, 06:41 AM
one gap in ur argument ....
the quality of drinks is not the same in every bar ...
Rest of wat u have said is mentioned/covered in the post linked in the original post

Polarbear
07-16-2008, 07:01 AM
(unless u got a team of rippers whu only release to ur site .)

that's it. take a look at E for example. they have a userbase of 1.500. not many, right?

those 1.500 members uploaded 15.000(!) high quality cd rips, that you can't find anywhere else.

cinemaggedon, hdbits, sdbits, cinematik, kg even bitmetv are other sites that track exclusive stuff.

files are always uploaded by people who have access to the original in the first place. there are countless trackers that get their files from the scene, which is of course the biggest, fastest and most comprehensive source for warez in the internet. everyone can get those files, everyone can spread them and upload them to trackers.

on the other hand there are trackers where users make their own rips of music, movies, software, games (very rare!). these so called p2p releases are sometimes superior in quality and often cover older movies or more obscure genres.

it takes skills to make a proper movie or cd rip. it even takes more skills to crack software and games.

sites that have members with these skills and track their files are usually the ones with exclusive content.

of course exclusive can also mean a certain kind or genre of warez.

in a nutshell: if a site has content that you can't find on other sites, it's exclusive.

Ghostbusters
07-16-2008, 07:04 AM
one gap in ur argument ....
the quality of drinks is not the same in every bar ...
Rest of wat u have said is mentioned/covered in the post linked in the original post

I would agree that if you go to some dodgy little back street drinking hole where the drinks are a little bit cheaper then you may get a pint of watered down beer but generally speaking all the pubs are supplied by the main breweries which have to fall in line with certain standards.

Think of the brand names of your fav drinks, if you get a bottle of Bud in bar a it's identical to the bottle of Bud you get in bar B.

It's not really a gap in my argument, it's just there are always exceptions to every rule :)



*edit*

To be honest I never read the reference thread, I prob should have done but I'm just out my scratcher & gettin ready for work lol

apextwin146
07-16-2008, 07:12 AM
(unless u got a team of rippers whu only release to ur site .)

that's it. take a look at E for example. they have a userbase of 1.500. not many, right?

those 1.500 members uploaded 15.000(!) high quality cd rips, that you can't find anywhere else.

cinemaggedon, hdbits, sdbits, cinematik, kg even bitmetv are other sites that track exclusive stuff.

files are always uploaded by people who have access to the original in the first place. there are countless trackers that get their files from the scene, which is of course the biggest, fastest and most comprehensive source for warez in the internet. everyone can get those files, everyone can spread them and upload them to trackers.

on the other hand there are trackers where users make their own rips of music, movies, software, games (very rare!). these so called p2p releases are sometimes superior in quality and often cover older movies or more obscure genres.

it takes skills to make a proper movie or cd rip. it even takes more skills to crack software and games.

sites that have members with these skills and track their files are usually the ones with exclusive content.

of course exclusive can also mean a certain kind or genre of warez.

in a nutshell: if a site has content that you can't find on other sites, it's exclusive.
This is wat i was talking abt ...
So in essence its the members that make a site better ( in terms of exclusivity) ...
Its too much effort on part of 1-4 ppl to create a tracker and add exclusive content to it afterall these ppl do earn thier living primarily by other sources and have to dedicate time to those things also ...

TP635
07-16-2008, 07:23 AM
A niche contain would be nice; ie a music tracker that just have karaoke mp3+g files:cool:

added: anyone want to start one?

Ghostbusters
07-16-2008, 07:28 AM
A niche contain would be nice; ie a music tracker that just have karaoke mp3+g files:cool:

added: anyone want to start one?

The DC++ Hubs & Networks is where my friend used to get all his karaoke & CDG discs.

It may be abit of a learning curve for you though if you've never used the system before.

This is where filesharing was at before the introduction of Bittorrent

TP635
07-16-2008, 07:41 AM
A niche contain would be nice; ie a music tracker that just have karaoke mp3+g files:cool:

added: anyone want to start one?

The DC++ Hubs & Networks is where my friend used to get all his karaoke & CDG discs.

It may be abit of a learning curve for you though if you've never used the system before.

This is where filesharing was at before the introduction of Bittorrent

I wiki DC++ Hubs and after reading it feel that I am too dumb to use it.:frusty:

This is the only reason why demonoid is important to me; karaoke

Duckater
07-16-2008, 12:40 PM
There is at least one specialist karaoke site out there :)
It is very good full of info as well as all latest releases all ripped by members and uploaded there :)

walkman79
07-18-2008, 11:41 PM
I have mixed feelings about exclusiveness. I know some trackers are proud of their exclusive contents and their uploaders make a great effort to keep it up. But it would be a dream come true if all trackers united their forces, shared the same contents and backed up each other. I dream of the socialism of the bittorrent world but I know that's a utopia :(
The community is what makes a tracker good or bad. A good community means active members, good uploaders, helpful staff, people who love to share and rent seedboxes, members who help out other members and write tutorials, etc.
However, at the beginning is the leader who needs to implement rules and policies which makes the tracker a good place for its community.

Duckater
07-19-2008, 01:06 AM
I think trackers that have an area set for one form of torrent i.e. a sport in this case lets say baseball and then also upload the 0day content can get a good community spirit based on the area they are trying to focus on :)
Most times the people that down load the baseball torrents will be getting there films etc else where.If the site then improves its sped and pre times on 0day stuff and improves the forums and community for the baseball and users are logging in regular to check the latest news on baseball they will feel more and more part of the community and then when browsing will start and not only grab there baseball torrents but the 0day stuff they previously got from 0day sites.
Now a lot of people may disagree with this but I think it will work :)

Polarbear
07-19-2008, 01:44 AM
I think trackers that have an area set for one form of torrent i.e. a sport in this case lets say baseball and then also upload the 0day content can get a good community spirit based on the area they are trying to focus on :)
Most times the people that down load the baseball torrents will be getting there films etc else where.If the site then improves its sped and pre times on 0day stuff and improves the forums and community for the baseball and users are logging in regular to check the latest news on baseball they will feel more and more part of the community and then when browsing will start and not only grab there baseball torrents but the 0day stuff they previously got from 0day sites.
Now a lot of people may disagree with this but I think it will work :)

brokenstones proved otherwise. as you probably know it was a dedicated mac tracker. one day after the oink closedown they decided to allow movies and music.
those files didn't receive any demand and were hardly snatched. i think you can't educate users to download content they originally didn't sign up for. especially not with 0-day that is available on every corner.

Duckater
07-19-2008, 01:53 AM
So is/was brokenstones the exception to the idea?

Polarbear
07-19-2008, 02:02 AM
if people needed a 0-day tracker they would sign up to one, there are hundreds. if your initial goal is a 0-day tracker, open one. to mask it as a dedicated tracker won't work.

i don't know a single tracker that developed from a dedicated to a successfull general one.

Duckater
07-19-2008, 02:05 AM
So you are saying it should not work which ever way it evolved i.e. from general tracker to general tracker with a specialised theme in it or from specialist tracker to specialist tracker with addition of general content?

Polarbear
07-19-2008, 02:08 AM
So you are saying it should not work which ever way it evolved i.e. from general tracker to general tracker with a specialised theme in it or from specialist tracker to specialist tracker with addition of general content?

what? :blink:

i'm sorry, i'm tired. i need to sleep. good night.

Sanka113
07-19-2008, 07:08 AM
It's all relative...

Something Else
07-19-2008, 07:34 AM
(unless u got a team of rippers whu only release to ur site .)

There is one tracker I know that fills that criteria. :whistling

RadiancE
07-19-2008, 04:22 PM
oops double

RadiancE
07-19-2008, 04:26 PM
(unless u got a team of rippers whu only release to ur site .)

There is one tracker I know that fills that criteria. :whistling
:yup: They also have clown porn i heard.

SgtMajor
07-19-2008, 04:34 PM
There is one tracker I know that fills that criteria. :whistling
:yup: They also have clown porn i heard.

Home made midget clown porn and I would be really, really interested :P

mrnobody
07-19-2008, 05:11 PM
midget p0rn humm, definately exclusive! throw me an invite if they have those.:D

respawn40
07-19-2008, 05:15 PM
Cinemageddon has clown porn :O

SgtMajor
07-19-2008, 05:20 PM
Cinemageddon has clown porn :O

Poor you, psychologically damaged for life just knowing that stuff exists :sick:

/me goes looking for cg invite :P

Polarbear
07-19-2008, 05:33 PM
Cinemageddon has clown porn :O

Poor you, psychologically damaged for life just knowing that stuff exists :sick:



especially when you take into consideration that he's 14. :lol:

respawn40
07-19-2008, 05:52 PM
Poor you, psychologically damaged for life just knowing that stuff exists :sick:



especially when you take into consideration that he's 14. :lol:

I only know because it was a featured torrent; it got slapped on the front page :P I already knew it existed for a long time though; my friends choose to damage their minds, and it would get tossed around the lunch table at school =/

"I found asian, ebony, and clown porn under my dad's bed" WTF?

I blame society! :dry:

deadalive1
07-19-2008, 05:56 PM
"I found asian, ebony, and clown porn under my dad's bed" WTF?

That is disturbing rofl :P:lol:, maybe a more disturbing question is...why were you underneath the bed? :P

respawn40
07-19-2008, 06:01 PM
The dad of the friend I was referring to is a hippy who is probably the only one in town who is Buddist -_- I wouldn't doubt that he has that stuff, to be honest.

Catcher
07-19-2008, 07:08 PM
Exclusive or not, you will decide it.
Sign up and find out.
At the worst case you won't like that tracker and you could give it to someone else.

respawn40
07-19-2008, 07:14 PM
Exclusive or not, you will decide it.
Sign up and find out.
At the worst case you won't like that tracker and you can let it be disabled for inactivity.

fix'd

SgtMajor
07-19-2008, 07:15 PM
Exclusive or not, you will decide it.
Sign up and find out.
At the worst case you won't like that tracker and you could give it to someone else.

:angry:

You can soon go off people you know :dabs:

apextwin146
07-21-2008, 09:12 AM
So like midget porn is exclusive ...
damn i wonder wat is tranny midget clown gang bang pron then .....(probably throw in Ben stiller also) ..
/Ordering it from Adult Empire ...