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abu_has_the_power
08-20-2003, 12:46 AM
i've heard people overclocking video cards and stuff. wat is that? wat does it do? does it work on a gforce fx 5200 128mb w/tv out? help a fellow hardware noobie out. ;)

3rd gen noob
08-20-2003, 12:49 AM
overclocking is basically increasing the core and/or memory speeds on a video card to increase performance

you can do it with a software app or reg tweak normally

because you're stressing the card more, you may void the warranty on the card

overclocking can yield good performance increases when done in moderation, however, if you do it too much, you could permanently damage the video card

overclocking should work on any card

abu_has_the_power
08-20-2003, 12:51 AM
Originally posted by 3rd gen noob@20 August 2003 - 00:49
overclocking is basically increasing the core and/or memory speeds on a video card to increase performance

you can do it with a software app or reg tweak normally

because you're stressing the card more, you may void the warranty on the card

overclocking can yield good performance increases when done in moderation, however, if you do it too much, you could permanently damage the video card

overclocking should work on any card
thanks. ok, how do u overclock a gforce fx 5200?

adamp2p
08-20-2003, 12:55 AM
Download riva tuner, install it and you can tweak it with that.,

Riva tuner is great...

http://www.guru3d.com/rivatuner/

3rd gen noob
08-20-2003, 12:56 AM
have a look here (http://www.vr-zone.com/reviews/MSI/FX5200/page8.htm)
it seems they had trouble overclocking a certain part of the fx5200

however, to overclock, you should download an app like RivaTuner

edit: beaten :P

abu_has_the_power
08-20-2003, 01:33 AM
so overclocking enhances the memory on the video card, but can damage the card? cuz i bought mine from a oem comp manufacturer, and i have a 3 year warrenty. if it breaks, they will replace it. but it can damage the card? and how do u do it, just follow onscreen instructions? is there a guide or something?

3rd gen noob
08-20-2003, 01:47 AM
you can do damage to the card
if the manufacturers find out you've tried to verclock the card, they may not replace it under warranty

the actual overclocking process is fairly simple, there is more info at the link adamp2p provided here (http://www.guru3d.com/rivatuner/)

abu_has_the_power
08-20-2003, 03:40 AM
i bought the comp from www.ibuypower.com. they buy oem parts and sell prebuild pcs with the oem parts. i think that if i say that the video card got messed up, they might be too dumb to know that it's overclocked, unless there's a way to tell.

Cygnuz-Y
08-20-2003, 04:26 AM
When you overclock the card it gets EXTREMILY HOT so if the card is burned is because of Overclocking or that you put the card in the oven!!

THats an easy way to know!

abu_has_the_power
08-20-2003, 01:57 PM
wat if i put one of those pci slot fans in between the video card and some other card?

3rd gen noob
08-20-2003, 03:26 PM
Originally posted by abu_has_the_power@20 August 2003 - 14:57
wat if i put one of those pci slot fans in between the video card and some other card?
this would be a part solution, however, you would only be cooling the surface of the card, not the pcb (printed circuit board). the pcb is basically the silicon (and other materials) which makes up the base of the card and the temperature of this rises when you overclock. it's hard to cool the pcb effectively

abu_has_the_power
08-20-2003, 04:23 PM
so in guess i shouldn't overclock my gforce fx 5200? :unsure:

3rd gen noob
08-20-2003, 04:45 PM
Originally posted by abu_has_the_power@20 August 2003 - 17:23
so in guess i shouldn't overclock my gforce fx 5200? :unsure:
you should wait and get the card. then see how it performs in the games you want to use. if it's good enough for you, then don't overclock.

if the games are lagging or running badly, think about overclocking, but you should wait and see first

Cygnuz-Y
08-20-2003, 11:20 PM
Originally posted by 3rd gen noob+20 August 2003 - 16:45--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (3rd gen noob @ 20 August 2003 - 16:45)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-abu_has_the_power@20 August 2003 - 17:23
so in guess i shouldn&#39;t overclock my gforce fx 5200? :unsure:
you should wait and get the card. then see how it performs in the games you want to use. if it&#39;s good enough for you, then don&#39;t overclock.

if the games are lagging or running badly, think about overclocking, but you should wait and see first [/b][/quote]
YEs and be sure to get propper Cooling system&#33;

abu_has_the_power
08-20-2003, 11:23 PM
Originally posted by 3rd gen noob+20 August 2003 - 16:45--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (3rd gen noob @ 20 August 2003 - 16:45)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-abu_has_the_power@20 August 2003 - 17:23
so in guess i shouldn&#39;t overclock my gforce fx 5200? :unsure:
you should wait and get the card. then see how it performs in the games you want to use. if it&#39;s good enough for you, then don&#39;t overclock.

if the games are lagging or running badly, think about overclocking, but you should wait and see first [/b][/quote]
i&#39;ll be playin hl2 and doom 3 at low quality. should i overclock?

Cygnuz-Y
08-20-2003, 11:26 PM
depends on your CPU speed and Ram &#33;

abu_has_the_power
08-20-2003, 11:29 PM
Originally posted by Cygnuz-Y+20 August 2003 - 23:20--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Cygnuz-Y @ 20 August 2003 - 23:20)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
Originally posted by 3rd gen noob@20 August 2003 - 16:45
<!--QuoteBegin-abu_has_the_power@20 August 2003 - 17:23
so in guess i shouldn&#39;t overclock my gforce fx 5200? :unsure:
you should wait and get the card. then see how it performs in the games you want to use. if it&#39;s good enough for you, then don&#39;t overclock.

if the games are lagging or running badly, think about overclocking, but you should wait and see first
YEs and be sure to get propper Cooling system&#33; [/b][/quote]
the other guy said that cooling only cools the outside, and not the circuit board thing.

jrzofclay
08-21-2003, 01:26 AM
delete

abu_has_the_power
08-21-2003, 01:35 AM
is that possible?

3rd gen noob
08-21-2003, 04:26 AM
Originally posted by jrzofclay@21 August 2003 - 02:26
ok so how do you actually overclock your COMPUTER not video card?
just search on google for "overclocking cpu" or "overclocking ram"

it&#39;d take too long to regurgitate a full detailed answer just now

abu_has_the_power
08-21-2003, 04:29 AM
wouldn&#39;t that damage the parts 2?

3rd gen noob
08-21-2003, 04:35 AM
Originally posted by abu_has_the_power@21 August 2003 - 05:29
wouldn&#39;t that damage the parts 2?
yeah, if overdone, it can damage parts, but done in moderation, it should be fine

abu_has_the_power
08-21-2003, 04:36 AM
how far is overdone?>

3rd gen noob
08-21-2003, 04:48 AM
approx 10% of your standard cpu clock speed is possible without too much hassle

so if you have a 1000MHz cpu, you should get 1100MHz

of course, it&#39;s dependent on which cpu and motherboard you have (as well as the rest of the setup), but 10% is a rough guideline

abu_has_the_power
08-21-2003, 04:51 AM
- INTEL P4 2.4GHZ [800FSB] CPU
- Intel 865PE chip 800FSB 8x AGP Main Board with Sound / USB2.0 / 10/100 LAN
- 512MB Dual Channel DDR400 Memory
- 120GB 7200 RPM ATA-100 HDD
- 128MB GeForce FX 5200 8x AGP Video
- 52x24x52 CD-RW
- UPGRADE TO Pioneer DVD-RW --- &#036;99
- 5.1 Channel 3D Surround Sound
- 480 Watts PMPO Subwoofer Speakers
- 10/100 Network LAN

do i need to overclock the cpu? and the video card? and the ram?

3rd gen noob
08-21-2003, 04:56 AM
Originally posted by abu_has_the_power@21 August 2003 - 05:51
do i need to overclock the cpu? and the video card? and the ram?
the cpu and ram are pretty good. you should leave them as standard.
the video card depends on how it plays for you. if you find the card is lagging in games, you may want to try overclocking, but you should try it out first

if you&#39;re wanting to play hl2 and doom 3 (as you say earlier in the post), you may want to overclock, but try the games out first before you try it. you may be surprised by the performance

ehnoismemu
08-21-2003, 05:04 AM
if you don&#39;t know if you have to overclock it, it&#39;s because you don&#39;t have to and should not do it by yourself.