Olympics Idea

[Mr JP Fugley]

Let men and women compete in the same events.

Then we'll see how equal you are, burds.

[CrabGirl]

Ok! Theres a good idea! Because we all know that we are built the same and men are not bigger and stronger in general than women...

Fuck sake JP, are you just trying to irritate me?

[Something Else]

Why do the women get paid the same as the men in Tennis tournaments. That's what I want to know. The women only play 3 set matches. Equality. Arsebiscuits.

[Mr JP Fugley]

Ok! Theres a good idea! Because we all know that we are built the same and men are not bigger and stronger in general than women...

Fuck sake JP, are you just trying to irritate me?

You forgot faster and jumpier.

[Mr JP Fugley]

Why do the women get paid the same as the men in Tennis tournaments. That's what I want to know. The women only play 3 set matches. Equality. Arsebiscuits.

And also they are rubbish compared to men.

[Skweeky]

:dabsrod:



:ermm:

[chalice]

Give the women performance enhancing drugs and make the men wear blindfolds.

Can't say fairer than that.

[Mr JP Fugley]

Give the women performance enhancing drugs and make the men wear blindfolds.

Can't say fairer than that.
We wouldn't want draws all the time but.

[Mr JP Fugley]

:dabsrod:



:ermm:

Exactly, men are even better at fishing.

[Mr.sharer]

ffs they cant even compete for the whole month

[Squeamous]

Women should be given the option to compete in the men's competitions but not made to. They should have their own events too. You'll probably find in most arenas women won't even try to compete with men because they won't be able to. I just don't like the idea of them being given a blanket 'no' without even a chance to try if they want. They shouldn't be given any extra dispensations though. And it would be really lame if they had to start looking like Paula Radcliffe to do it. Anyone remember that Russian female athlete that had to prove she was a woman because she looked so much like a man?

[Mr JP Fugley]

Fair enough, so long as men have the option to compete in Women's competitions. Or do you think equality would just be silly.

I'm sure there's plenty of chaps who would like to pick up the prizes at Women's tennis competitions.

[Something Else]

I'm off to play in the Wymyn's Darts Championships.

[Mr JP Fugley]

Anastasia Dobromysova the reigning champion is a good player actually.

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She's in the BDO I think

[Biggles]

I have entered for the girls' beach volley ball.

[Mr JP Fugley]

I have entered for the girls' beach volley ball.

I shall watch your career with interest.

[Biggles]

I have entered for the girls' beach volley ball.

I shall watch your career with interest.

I am anticipating there will be ups and downs.

[Mr JP Fugley]

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[Skweeky]

If you start playing beach volleyball, do you automatically change into a hawt burd?

[Mr JP Fugley]

Yup, it's the law.

[Squeamous]

Fair enough, so long as men have the option to compete in Women's competitions. Or do you think equality would just be silly.

I'm sure there's plenty of chaps who would like to pick up the prizes at Women's tennis competitions.

I think the point of being an athlete is striving to be the best. So why would an athlete choose to compete in a contest they could easily win? See you're thinking with your JP head and not an achiever's head :yup:.

[Mr JP Fugley]

Pish

If women are to be allowed to enter men's events then the same must be true in reverse. Anything else would be iniquitous.

There only are men's and women's events to give the lassies a chance to win. Why would you want that taken away. The number of successful woman sportists would be as near nothing as makes no difference. Is that what you want, well, is it.

[Squeamous]

Was that a rhetorical question?

My point is, athletes don't care about point scoring. Men simply wouldn't want to participate in most womens' events, and would very rarely even see women in theirs.

But since you mention it, actually some events really sicken me. When you see women whose bodies no longer fit their biological purpose and you can no longer differentiate them from a 10 year old boy, I think the values and point of the Olympics is lost.

[Mr JP Fugley]

Was that a rhetorical question?

My point is, athletes don't care about point scoring. Men simply wouldn't want to participate in most womens' events, and would very rarely even see women in theirs.



Nonsense.

If men could enter Women's tennis tournaments they would do it quicker than you can say "Men and Women's champs: £600,000".

[Squeamous]

I see you ignored the hot potato :sneaky:

I see the point in allowing separate events, because the Olympics is as much to do with the spirit of perseverance as it is physical ability. If you didn't have separate events women would miss out on the former. If however they feel they can compete with men and their performance backs that up, then how can anyone find a good reason to exclude them? I mean, darts for instance; what has physical strength got to do with that?

[Mr JP Fugley]

I see you ignored the hot potato :sneaky:

I see the point in allowing separate events, because the Olympics is as much to do with the spirit of perseverance as it is physical ability. If you didn't have separate events women would miss out on the former. If however they feel they can compete with men and their performance backs that up, then how can anyone find a good reason to exclude them? I mean, darts for instance; what has physical strength got to do with that?

I totally agree.

However for the sake of equality if women are allowed to compete in men's events then there is no conceivable justification for not allowing men to compete in women's.

Unless of course equality only works in one direction. What woman would support that.

[Squeamous]

Oh I see! You believe the principle of equality is so important it must be preserved over logic and reason. It would be commendable if it wasn't so unrealistic.

[Squeamous]

On the subject of t'Olympics, I can't really understand all this fuss. 'Greatest show the world has ever seen'. It's still a bunch of people prancing about with drums.

[Mr JP Fugley]

Oh I see! You believe the principle of equality is so important it must be preserved over logic and reason. It would be commendable if it wasn't so unrealistic.


Indeed, couldn't agree more.

[Squeamous]

Equality must always be assumed and provided for unless proved otherwise.

[Barbarossa]

It could work in favour of women occasionally, for example in gymnastics, diving, or synchronised swimming :unsure:

Also, men and women do compete equally in the showjumping, although they do need to provide their own horses :dabs:

[Mr JP Fugley]

Equality must always be assumed and provided for unless proved otherwise.

That's qualifying what was claimed as a superlative.

[Squeamous]

That's qualifying what was claimed as a superlative.

That's a collection of words that don't actually mean anything.

But you knew that didn't you :shifty:

[Squeamous]

It could work in favour of women occasionally, for example in gymnastics, diving, or synchronised swimming :unsure:

Also, men and women do compete equally in the showjumping, although they do need to provide their own horses :dabs:

Male or female horses? :unsure:

[Mr JP Fugley]

That's qualifying what was claimed as a superlative.

That's a collection of words that don't actually mean anything.

But you knew that didn't you :shifty:

It isn't, but you knew that already. You are more than familiar with the idea of qualifying a superlative.

I've read your posts FFS.

[wazza100]

Women should be given the option to compete in the men's competitions but not made to. They should have their own events too. You'll probably find in most arenas women won't even try to compete with men because they won't be able to. I just don't like the idea of them being given a blanket 'no' without even a chance to try if they want. They shouldn't be given any extra dispensations though. And it would be really lame if they had to start looking like Paula Radcliffe to do it. Anyone remember that Russian female athlete that had to prove she was a woman because she looked so much like a man?

well you'd only be encouraging more hulk like female athletes :sick:. Also from the male's perspective can be seen to be a tad unfair as women have the option of deciding to take part in either comp while men can only take part in one Also why would a woman want to take part in the men's because if she is able to meet the qualifying time more often than not that time will be gold in the women's.

[puckface]

Ive been saying this all of my life. It will never happen because someone will claim it isn't fair. Even though I consider it the most level playing field there can be.

That being said, we need Woman's Beach Volleyball 24/7

[puckface]

Women should be given the option to compete in the men's competitions but not made to. They should have their own events too. You'll probably find in most arenas women won't even try to compete with men because they won't be able to. I just don't like the idea of them being given a blanket 'no' without even a chance to try if they want. They shouldn't be given any extra dispensations though. And it would be really lame if they had to start looking like Paula Radcliffe to do it. Anyone remember that Russian female athlete that had to prove she was a woman because she looked so much like a man?

well you'd only be encouraging more hulk like female athletes :sick:. Also from the male's perspective can be seen to be a tad unfair as women have the option of deciding to take part in either comp while men can only take part in one Also why would a woman want to take part in the men's because if she is able to meet the qualifying time more often than not that time will be gold in the women's.

and no options involved. Just one event per sport.

[wazza100]

^ but if one event=one sport you'll have heman women and who'd want that. I'll take my women's beach volleyball where women look like women :).

Also taking a genetics view point even with hulks(women that is) they'll still always be lesser athletes regarding final performance since their bodies will never be as strong/powerful as a man.

[puckface]

Well I guess 1 exception... beach volleyball.

split that one into genders.

[thewizeard]

Why do the women get paid the same as the men in Tennis tournaments. That's what I want to know. The women only play 3 set matches. Equality. Arsebiscuits.

And also they are rubbish compared to men.


:O I would rather watch women playing tennis than men playing tennis..any and every day. Especially those with large boobs..( not that I have a fixation for large boobs, or anything,) but when two large boobs bounce in unison /harmony.... :w00t: That goes for football too and most sports where women,... run. :)

PS. Take for example the Tour de France..who wants to see all those big male buts stuck in the air?

[wazza100]

And also they are rubbish compared to men.


:O I would rather watch women playing tennis than men playing tennis..any and every day. Especially those with large boobs..( not that I have a fixation for large boobs, or anything,) but when two large boobs bounce in unison /harmony.... :w00t: That goes for football too and most sports where women,... run. :)

PS. Take for example the Tour de France..who wants to see all those big male buts stuck in the air?

exactly :thumbsup:

[puckface]

Why do the women get paid the same as the men in Tennis tournaments. That's what I want to know. The women only play 3 set matches. Equality. Arsebiscuits.


Speaking of equality, today I just found out that in Volleyball (beach at least), the womans net is lower than the mens net. Yup equality.

[wazza100]

Why do the women get paid the same as the men in Tennis tournaments. That's what I want to know. The women only play 3 set matches. Equality. Arsebiscuits.


Speaking of equality, today I just found out that in Volleyball (beach at least), the womans net is lower than the mens net. Yup equality.

i don't think they do well the men's prize at least in the past you used to get more for winning wimbeldon for example. Also if you look at earnings- Federer gets more than any female equivalent sponsorship wise so even if tour earnings are the same which I don't think they are he gets rewarded better monetary wise so it equates to the same thing ie: men get paid more in tennis and rightly deserve to as well.

[Squeamous]

It isn't, but you knew that already. You are more than familiar with the idea of qualifying a superlative.

I've read your posts FFS.

I seriously have no idea what you're talking about. I got all my education from actually reading books not examining and classifying the words used in them.

The English language is a beautiful thing. There's few languages if any, that match up to it in terms of allowing a person to put their thoughts across. It pisses me off when people completely miss the point and use language to obfuscate rather than enlighten.

[Squeamous]

well you'd only be encouraging more hulk like female athletes :sick:. Also from the male's perspective can be seen to be a tad unfair as women have the option of deciding to take part in either comp while men can only take part in one Also why would a woman want to take part in the men's because if she is able to meet the qualifying time more often than not that time will be gold in the women's.

The rest I've already answered previously.

We've already got hulk-like female athletes. They've got that way in an attempt to be top of the women's class, so I doubt being allowed to enter men's competitions would make much difference.

[Mr JP Fugley]

It isn't, but you knew that already. You are more than familiar with the idea of qualifying a superlative.

I've read your posts FFS.

I seriously have no idea what you're talking about. I got all my education from actually reading books not examining and classifying the words used in them.

The English language is a beautiful thing. There's few languages if any, that match up to it in terms of allowing a person to put their thoughts across. It pisses me off when people completely miss the point and use language to obfuscate rather than enlighten.

I was pished out of my face via the gift of apple and being on holiday. I have absolutely no idea what I meant either.

I thought that was fairly obvious.

FFS you were talking about getting a vegetarian eat as much as you want home delivery. So don't start on me.

[Skweeky]

Are you on holiday in your house?

Oh, my two cents as well;

Equality doesn't mean making everything exactly the same for both sexes.
It means making everything as equal as possible, taking into consideration both strengths and weaknesses of said sexes.

So getting paid the same money for a different effort in absolute terms makes perfect sense, because it is the best both can do to their best ability, in relation to each other.

So there.

[Mr JP Fugley]

Are you on holiday in your house?


I've taken some time off but I'm not going away. Well nowt planned. Just pottering about, doing a bit of decorating. Blah de blah.

You're other points are well made. However why should women then be allowed to enter men's competitions. That seems a bit like eating your cake and having it. Maybe women wouldn't win, but they would be above at least some of the men. How is that fair on them. Particularly since lower down the field they more need the prize money just to live their life. That seems a bit unfair.

[Skweeky]

I never said women should be allowed to enter men's competitions. I think it's fine as it is, with everything being split. :yes:

Can you come to my house to do some decorating?

[Mr JP Fugley]

I never said women should be allowed to enter men's competitions. I think it's fine as it is, with everything being split. :yes:

Can you come to my house to do some decorating?

Sorry, my bad. Then we're agreed.

Only if that's a euphemism.

[Skweeky]

You can pretend to be the plumber. I'll make sure to download some porn music.

[Squeamous]

I was pished out of my face via the gift of apple and being on holiday. I have absolutely no idea what I meant either.

I thought that was fairly obvious.

FFS you were talking about getting a vegetarian eat as much as you want home delivery. So don't start on me.

Was not :snooty:

[Biggles]

You can pretend to be the plumber. I'll make sure to download some porn music.

Cue Benny Hill music :01:

[Squeamous]

I've taken some time off but I'm not going away. Well nowt planned. Just pottering about, doing a bit of decorating. Blah de blah.

You're other points are well made. However why should women then be allowed to enter men's competitions. That seems a bit like eating your cake and having it. Maybe women wouldn't win, but they would be above at least some of the men. How is that fair on them. Particularly since lower down the field they more need the prize money just to live their life. That seems a bit unfair.

The reason this is becoming an issue at all is that women in lots of sports are now starting to come into qualifying range in the men's competition. It's tough if you don't like it, it just is. I'm not suggesting anyone give women an easier ride so that they can compete with men, I'm saying that if they fill an advanced criteria why should what's between their legs stop them? The same issue is coming to the fore regarding disabled athletes.

As to your concern about fairness for men, exactly the same happens in boxing. Boxers don't achieve a heavyweight title and then think 'right, what's next....I'll lose some weight and try for the middle weight title' do they?

[Biggles]

I've taken some time off but I'm not going away. Well nowt planned. Just pottering about, doing a bit of decorating. Blah de blah.

You're other points are well made. However why should women then be allowed to enter men's competitions. That seems a bit like eating your cake and having it. Maybe women wouldn't win, but they would be above at least some of the men. How is that fair on them. Particularly since lower down the field they more need the prize money just to live their life. That seems a bit unfair.

The reason this is becoming an issue at all is that women in lots of sports are now starting to come into qualifying range in the men's competition. It's tough if you don't like it, it just is. I'm not suggesting anyone give women an easier ride so that they can compete with men, I'm saying that if they fill an advanced criteria why should what's between their legs stop them? The same issue is coming to the fore regarding disabled athletes.

As to your concern about fairness for men, exactly the same happens in boxing. Boxers don't achieve a heavyweight title and then think 'right, what's next....I'll lose some weight and try for the middle weight title' do they?

You can't put a boxer in a wheelchair into the same ring as someone standing up FFS! The ref will be calling foul all the time.

[Skweeky]

You can pretend to be the plumber. I'll make sure to download some porn music.

Cue Benny Hill music :01:

:lol:

The mental image to do with that is not pretty :pinch:

[Squeamous]

You can't put a boxer in a wheelchair into the same ring as someone standing up FFS! The ref will be calling foul all the time.

Sir, you are very silly :snooty:

[Mr JP Fugley]

I've taken some time off but I'm not going away. Well nowt planned. Just pottering about, doing a bit of decorating. Blah de blah.

You're other points are well made. However why should women then be allowed to enter men's competitions. That seems a bit like eating your cake and having it. Maybe women wouldn't win, but they would be above at least some of the men. How is that fair on them. Particularly since lower down the field they more need the prize money just to live their life. That seems a bit unfair.

The reason this is becoming an issue at all is that women in lots of sports are now starting to come into qualifying range in the men's competition. It's tough if you don't like it, it just is. I'm not suggesting anyone give women an easier ride so that they can compete with men, I'm saying that if they fill an advanced criteria why should what's between their legs stop them? The same issue is coming to the fore regarding disabled athletes.

As to your concern about fairness for men, exactly the same happens in boxing. Boxers don't achieve a heavyweight title and then think 'right, what's next....I'll lose some weight and try for the middle weight title' do they?

Yes, actually.

It's quite common, many boxers fight at different weights throughout their careers. Didn't Hatton just move back down a weight. Several Boxers have held world titles at various weights. I've just realised it's a rod but fuck it.

The only fair solution is to have Men's competitions, Women's competitions and any sex competitions.

I say again, how is it fair on the man who would have been 32nd to lose out on prize money. If he then can't enter a women's competition and make up the difference. However the woman who was above him can enter that same competition and win more. That's iniquitous.

[condom-man]

i would love to see the females compete with men in olympic wrestling :lol:

[Squeamous]

Yes, actually.

It's quite common, many boxers fight at different weights throughout their careers. Didn't Hatton just move back down a weight. Several Boxers have held world titles at various weights. I've just realised it's a rod but fuck it.

The only fair solution is to have Men's competitions, Women's competitions and any sex competitions.

I say again, how is it fair on the man who would have been 32nd to lose out on prize money. If he then can't enter a women's competition and make up the difference. However the woman who was above him can enter that same competition and win more. That's iniquitous.

I don't think athletes worry so much about prize money. There are any number of jobs people can do if they're after cash. Athletes want to compete at the highest level they can. Boxers do move down weights, but not by choice, and their goal is usually for the highest class they can make. Actually, I'm surprised you think athletes get into sport to make money, and I'm surprised you think they begrudge other entrants trying to better themselves. It goes against all the principles of sporting competition.

[Squeamous]

i would love to see the females compete with men in olympic wrestling :lol:

You have clearly never seen Chyna :ermm:

[Mr JP Fugley]

:lol:

There's no bit of that that isn't just wrong.

It's actually genious and to your credit. Chapeau.

[Mr JP Fugley]

Not Chyna like, your previous.

[Mr JP Fugley]

However now I think about it, it works for either.

[Squeamous]

:lol:

There's no bit of that that isn't just wrong.

It's actually genious and to your credit. Chapeau.

Well thank you! I always knew that if I persevered I would win the argument :happy:. I could have made something of myself in athletics :mellow:.

[Mr JP Fugley]

:lol:

There's no bit of that that isn't just wrong.

It's actually genious and to your credit. Chapeau.

Well thank you! I always knew that if I persevered I would win the argument :happy:. I could have made something of myself in athletics :mellow:.

Me too.

Unfortunately in my case it would have been a fool.

[Squeamous]

And to think, you didn't even have to get into sport to achieve that!

:drummer:

[condom-man]

i would love to see the females compete with men in olympic wrestling :lol:

You have clearly never seen Chyna :ermm:

not that type of females :sick: , is that even a lady ?

[Mr JP Fugley]

And to think, you didn't even have to get into sport to achieve that!

:drummer:

:lol::indeed:

[Squeamous]

You have clearly never seen Chyna :ermm:

not that type of females :sick: , is that even a lady ?

Well Chyna does rhyme with vagina :yup: