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devilsadvocate
08-10-2008, 02:38 AM
Edwards is scum for what he did, but is this really the burning issue of the day? Did Greg Jarret hear a word she said?


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Okay it's fox, but come on.

j2k4
08-10-2008, 01:14 PM
It is the nature of all televised media to over-do, wouldn't you say?

Time was allotted to address the Edwards story, and the respondent acknowledged Edwards' mis-steps.

She then tried to steer the segment towards the Georgia/Russia set-to, seemingly attempting to change the subject; Jarrett resisted the change and stuck to the subject of the segment, which was...Edwards.

What of it?

Nothing new here.

devilsadvocate
08-10-2008, 03:18 PM
It all goes to my frustration about priorities.

I don't expect it to go unreported, we do live in a Jerry Springer society. It was just the wall to wall coverage of something that deserves no more than a quick report.
I get the impression they feel hard done by that Edwards is not the candidate and so are pushing the what if.

My point here is that with all the problems we have why is the private life of an ex lawmaker so important? Are we still in that place?

j2k4
08-10-2008, 03:53 PM
Edwards is/was a candidate for AG.

Helluva leap for a mere tort lawyer, and, sorry, I would want to know about the ossified contents of his closet in that light.

As an aside, it appears his paramour is trying to save him more possible embarrassment by refusing the patrimony test.

Question:

Are we/should we be allowed to draw any conclusions from this, or is propriety questionable on the basis of the "privacy" issue?

Funny - why doesn't he just resurrect his legal career and become even richer?

Is he no longer a "brilliant" lawyer, or is it an ego thing?

devilsadvocate
08-10-2008, 06:08 PM
You mentioned an AG position, so tell me what these virgin until married appointees have done/did to the justice dept. Purity from sins of the flesh does not equal competence or purity in upholding the law.
If you wish to make a case about his ability to do the job based on relevant experience then we would probably not be too far apart.

j2k4
08-10-2008, 08:37 PM
I have no respect for his legal career.

I have no respect for the ideas he has proffered.

Apart from that, I give weight to the prospective personal behavior of any candidate.

Does conduct in office matter at all to you?

devilsadvocate
08-10-2008, 11:37 PM
What about his legal career? Did he do something illegal or do you just dislike the field he practiced in?

You can take it as read that I know you wouldn't agree with his political views, but the AG and justice dept. are supposed to be non political. So do you feel he would politicize the dept? (just one on a list of things this administration did). I want the justice dept. to return to working for the people, not the president.

Character and personal life behavior are lower on my list than relevant qualifications, experience and competence. The last 8 years have shown that.





BTW. where did you get the information that he was a candidate for that position? Is it just speculation or is there a list somewhere I've not been told about? I got an E.mail saying Hilary Clinton is going to be the next Supreme court nominee if Obama wins. Perhaps her name is on the same list.

j2k4
08-11-2008, 09:37 PM
What about his legal career? Did he do something illegal or do you just dislike the field he practiced in?

His field and the tactics it employs.


You can take it as read that I know you wouldn't agree with his political views, but the AG and justice dept. are supposed to be non political. So do you feel he would politicize the dept? (just one on a list of things this administration did). I want the justice dept. to return to working for the people, not the president.

Non-political?

Supposed to be?

Are you serious?

Wtf are we talking about here, Auntie Beeb?

Btw-

Justice is great, if it is written and practiced in the abstract.


Character and personal life behavior are lower on my list than relevant qualifications, experience and competence. The last 8 years have shown that.

What about the 8 years before that?

Qualifications?

Experience?

Competence?

Do you posit the Clinton administration had any of these?


BTW. where did you get the information that he was a candidate for that position? Is it just speculation or is there a list somewhere I've not been told about? I got an E.mail saying Hilary Clinton is going to be the next Supreme court nominee if Obama wins. Perhaps her name is on the same list.

Ex- (or other-than-ex) presidential candidates (especially those who are lawyers) are always prime appointees for any spot in the cabinet, don'tcha know.

Have you been living on Truk Island or something. :blink:

devilsadvocate
08-12-2008, 12:01 AM
His field and the tactics it employs.

An honest answer I guess. I will add that I don't think he would be a good choice. Probably for some of the same reasons, probably for some different reason to yours. I can only guess at your objections. Then again I don't know that much about his law qualifications.


You can take it as read that I know you wouldn't agree with his political views, but the AG and justice dept. are supposed to be non political. So do you feel he would politicize the dept? (just one on a list of things this administration did). I want the justice dept. to return to working for the people, not the president.

Non-political? Yes

Supposed to be? Yes

Are you serious? And yes. They may be political appointees but they are supposed to uphold the law without a political agenda.

Wtf are we talking about here, Auntie Beeb?

Btw-

Justice is great, if it is written and practiced in the abstract.



Character and personal life behavior are lower on my list than relevant qualifications, experience and competence. The last 8 years have shown that.

What about the 8 years before that?

Qualifications?

Experience?

Competence?

Do you posit the Clinton administration had any of these?

I didn't like Clinton, but there was far greater competence than this lot.


BTW. where did you get the information that he was a candidate for that position? Is it just speculation or is there a list somewhere I've not been told about? I got an E.mail saying Hilary Clinton is going to be the next Supreme court nominee if Obama wins. Perhaps her name is on the same list.

Ex- (or other-than-ex) presidential candidates (especially those who are lawyers) are always prime appointees for any spot in the cabinet, don'tcha know.

Have you been living on Truk Island or something. :blink:

So it was just speculation then and not fact.

j2k4
08-12-2008, 12:11 AM
Yes[/COLOR]

Supposed to be? Yes

Are you serious? And yes. They may be political appointees but they are supposed to uphold the law without a political agenda.

Wtf are we talking about here, Auntie Beeb?

Btw-

Justice is great, if it is written and practiced in the abstract.


[quote=devilsadvocate;2927946]Character and personal life behavior are lower on my list than relevant qualifications, experience and competence. The last 8 years have shown that.

What about the 8 years before that?

Qualifications?

Experience?

Competence?

Do you posit the Clinton administration had any of these?

I didn't like Clinton, but there was far greater competence than this lot.


Oy vay...:pinch:


BTW. where did you get the information that he was a candidate for that position? Is it just speculation or is there a list somewhere I've not been told about? I got an E.mail saying Hilary Clinton is going to be the next Supreme court nominee if Obama wins. Perhaps her name is on the same list.






So it was just speculation then and not fact.

As it has ever been.

Again (again): whats new? :dabs:

devilsadvocate
08-12-2008, 12:15 AM
Oy vay...:pinch:



I did that specially for you. :naughty:

homebizseo
08-12-2008, 07:38 AM
A BJ grabs the headline and everyone likes to hear about S E X

cullen7282
08-12-2008, 12:29 PM
I have no respect for his legal career.

I have no respect for the ideas he has proffered.

Apart from that, I give weight to the prospective personal behavior of any candidate.

Does conduct in office matter at all to you?

Do you also take into consideration that the affair happened in 2006 and he told his wife about it, not because he got busted but back in 2006. He messed up, confessed to his wife and they got through it together now two years later everybody else is getting involved. I don't think it's any of our business.

j2k4
08-13-2008, 01:23 AM
Do you also take into consideration that the affair happened in 2006 and he told his wife about it, not because he got busted but back in 2006. He messed up, confessed to his wife and they got through it together now two years later everybody else is getting involved. I don't think it's any of our business.

I take everything into consideration, and, absent this information, I couldn't consider it.

Have you taken into account that, considering the wide range of information one might select to define as "personal", or "off-limits", or "out-of-bounds", we would likely never find out anything other than that which a candidate would prefer us to see...are you saying that you would rather that be the case?

In his interview, he said he was stricken by an "attitude of privilege", thinking he "could do no wrong", and proceeded to act like a scumbag.

So now he feels guilt (or says he does, anyway) and wishes he hadn't done it?

Fine.

I'll take the info now, and feel shame down the road, somewhere.

Or not; maybe I'll just skip that part - you see, I judge things and people according to my standards, and I have never done anything remotely like what he's done, because I have higher standards.

That helps, when one has an inclination to be a judgmental prick. :dry:

Lex Luthor
08-13-2008, 04:38 AM
A BJ grabs the headline and everyone likes to hear about S E X

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This is what the media always has and always will do.