On Strike

[Biggles]

Now the workers
have struck for fame
'Cause Lennon's on sale again

well more dosh hactually - not sure of the wisdom but a democratic vote is a democratic vote :dabs:

[Skweeky]

Are you on strike as well?

Our binmen are on strike tomorrow.
So they came round on Sunday to collect the rubbish.

Makes sense that does.

[Agrajag]

Pointless, more money will not be forthcoming.

[Biggles]

Pointless, more money will not be forthcoming.

Best I think we can hope for is trigger clause that will kick in if inflation is in excess of x (although as inflation is already at 5% what x might be is worrying)

[Biggles]

Are you on strike as well?

Our binmen are on strike tomorrow.
So they came round on Sunday to collect the rubbish.

Makes sense that does.

Sunday = double time

[Agrajag]

Pointless, more money will not be forthcoming.

Best I think we can hope for is trigger clause that will kick in if inflation is in excess of x (although as inflation is already at 5% what x might be is worrying)

They renege on those deals anyway.

There are 30,000 Council workers going on strike. That's a days pay saved, well in excess of a £1,000,000 I would have thought. With the public getting annoyed at the strikers, not the Council.

The Council are probably wetting themselves laughing. Bring on the 3 day strike you threatened they'll be saying.

It's a pointless stupid tactic.

[Skweeky]

Are you on strike as well?

Our binmen are on strike tomorrow.
So they came round on Sunday to collect the rubbish.

Makes sense that does.

Sunday = double time

The public doesn't care about that. It would only annoy them if the rubbish didn't get collected.

What are they striking for anyway? A pay rise? So inflation can increase even more. It's a bloody vicious circle, every child knows that.

[Biggles]

I'm inclined to agree but having called it and it being voted one is somewhat swept up in the current. A long lie beckons tomorrow though.

The proposed work to rule will cause far more grief. In my last place the "not my job" industrial action nearly brought the place to a standstill and everybody got full pay too. A far more effective strategy imho. However, as you say, the Treasury have closed the purse strings because we are apparently broke.

Quite how we will match the Chinese Olympics in four years is anyone's guess.

[Skweeky]

Pffft, a striking accountant. :snooty:

[Agrajag]

Work to rule is the way to go cause them pain and get paid.

The last couple of DWP ones were a disgrace. They asked other people to go out in support but the staff themselves were working weekends to make up the difference and clear the backlog.

I have this on very good authority.

[chalice]

They come out on Sunday for double time. True story. The binmen that is.

Happened round our way a couple of weeks ago.

I don't get that. If you're on strike, you're on strike. You can't just go, 'I'm only on strike during the week but if'in I'm a gettin' Sunday overtime I'm a gonna take it'.

[Agrajag]

See my last mate.

[Biggles]

Sunday = double time

The public doesn't care about that. It would only annoy them if the rubbish didn't get collected.

What are they striking for anyway? A pay rise? So inflation can increase even more. It's a bloody vicious circle, every child knows that.

True, if inflation is 5% and you get 6% then in a small way you contribute to the upward trend. If inflation is 5% and you get 2% you are fuxored - especially if it is a three year deal and inflation stays at 5%. In effect, that would be like there is no inflation and one was offered over three years a 10% pay reduction. Not a vote winner from millions of public sector workers (not, I suspect, that the Westminster Government is expecting to win).

[Agrajag]

If you're getting offered 2% per year take it, you won't get any better.

[Agrajag]

I'm kind of buffered because of the promotion, progression payments in addition to performance.

Aren't you the same.

[Biggles]

Pffft, a striking accountant. :snooty:

Accountants are people too ..


:ermm: or at least nearly.

[Agrajag]

Pffft, a striking accountant. :snooty:

Accountants are people too ..


:ermm: or at least nearly.

Well ... technically.

[Skweeky]

Don't flatter yourself too much now.

[Biggles]

I'm kind of buffered because of the promotion, progression payments in addition to performance.

Aren't you the same.

Yes, I'm just being altruistic.

I wish NICE hadn't vetoed the drugs to help with that though :(

[Agrajag]

I'm kind of buffered because of the promotion, progression payments in addition to performance.

Aren't you the same.

Yes, I'm just being altruistic.

I wish NICE hadn't vetoed the drugs to help with that though :(

Altruism in a bean counter. The mind biggles.

Do you see what I did there.

[Skweeky]

What's a bean counter?

[Biggles]

Yes, I'm just being altruistic.

I wish NICE hadn't vetoed the drugs to help with that though :(

Altruism in a bean counter. The mind biggles.

Do you see what I did there.

I did, I did :01:

My boss said I was a traitor to the cause. He also gets me to explain all the pay deals too :idunno:

[chalice]

Also, it fucks my job up to the max.

I can't pay anyone overtime until they have completed their contracted hours for the week. This is typically 40 hours. Anything they work after that falls into a new bracket/calculation for increments/premium rates.

How can the CC justify paying overtime rates to employees who have not completed their obligated hours?

[brotherdoobie]

What's a bean counter?

Les.



-bd

[Biggles]

What's a bean counter?

A loving term of endearment for accountants (as in an abacus)

[Agrajag]

Also, it fucks my job up to the max.

I can't pay anyone overtime until they have completed their contracted hours for the week. This is typically 40 hours. Anything they work after that falls into a new bracket/calculation for increments/premium rates.

How can the CC justify paying overtime rates to employees who have not completed their obligated hours?

I think it's probably because they have a Mon-Fri contract rather than a 5 from 7.

[Agrajag]

What's a bean counter?

Les.



-bd

As opposed to Lesie, which is a bean flicker.

[Agrajag]

Altruism in a bean counter. The mind biggles.

Do you see what I did there.

I did, I did :01:

My boss said I was a traitor to the cause. He also gets me to explain all the pay deals too :idunno:

Is he an accountant.

[brotherdoobie]

Also, it fucks my job up to the max.

I can't pay anyone overtime until they have completed their contracted hours for the week. This is typically 40 hours. Anything they work after that falls into a new bracket/calculation for increments/premium rates.

How can the CC justify paying overtime rates to employees who have not completed their obligated hours?

A cluster fuck of a bureaucracy, eh?


-bd :wacko:

[chalice]

Also, it fucks my job up to the max.

I can't pay anyone overtime until they have completed their contracted hours for the week. This is typically 40 hours. Anything they work after that falls into a new bracket/calculation for increments/premium rates.

How can the CC justify paying overtime rates to employees who have not completed their obligated hours?

I think it's probably because they have a Mon-Fri contract rather than a 5 from 7.

Still not quite on board there mate.

Their contract must stipulate the working week which will invariably include weekends at request.

Overtime isn't overtime unless you've worked over the working week innit.

[chalice]

Double post.

I don't get paid for that.

[Biggles]

I did, I did :01:

My boss said I was a traitor to the cause. He also gets me to explain all the pay deals too :idunno:

Is he an accountant.

Yes, he is a good egg really. I am just better at deciphering the labyrinth text that goes with a pay deal. Just read the Home Office one because we have some Home Office peeps. Opening page says that the offer should be simple and transparent - it runs to 40 pages and requires three calculators and a slide rule :lol:

actually it is awful! worse than ours.

[Agrajag]

I think it's probably because they have a Mon-Fri contract rather than a 5 from 7.

Still not quite on board there mate.

Their contract must stipulate the working week which will invariably include weekends at request.

Overtime isn't overtime unless you've worked over the working week innit.

Some people get paid different rates for the weekend, as part of their contract. In addition they may be paid supplements. So a Sunday isn't double time per se, it's the overtime rate (say time and a half) plus the Sunday supplement.

Because of this they lose their Wednesday pay because they didn't work it, but get paid for the Sunday at a higher rate. That's not the same as getting paid O/T for anything more than your contracted hours.

You're rodding me aren't you. Cunt. It's what you do for a living.

[chalice]

Still not quite on board there mate.

Their contract must stipulate the working week which will invariably include weekends at request.

Overtime isn't overtime unless you've worked over the working week innit.

Some people get paid different rates for the weekend, as part of their contract. In addition they may be paid supplements. So a Sunday isn't double time per se, it's the overtime rate (say time and a half) plus the Sunday supplement.

Because of this they lose their Wednesday pay because they didn't work it, but get paid for the Sunday at a higher rate. That's not the same as getting paid O/T for anything more than your contracted hours.

You're rodding me aren't you. Cunt. It's what you do for a living.

No rod. I really think that CC unions (manifold as they are) are taking the fucking pish.

[Agrajag]

It doesn't help their case when they go on a days strike ad make more money from it.