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Agrajag
08-21-2008, 01:18 PM
Proof that Evolution is a Hoax

by David J. Stewart


Recently, a thought captivated my mind that proves that the theory of evolution is a big hoax. The thought is simple and yet profound ... why is there no recorded history before approximately 4,000 B.C.? The answer is obvious ... there was no history! Think about it! Evolutionists claim that man evolved over billions of years (that's billions with a "B"). If there were any truth to these false claims by unscrupulous scientists, then man's historical record should span back at least hundreds-of-thousands of years, if not millions. There is no record of a cataclysmic event that destroyed mankind prior to 4,000 B.C. And if there were, surely some of the survivors would have passed this information down to generations to follow. The Bible dates creation, as we know it today, at approximately 4,000 B.C. Thus, it was approximately 6,000 years ago that God, Jesus Christ, created the heavens and the earth in 6-days. It was 6,000 years ago that Jesus Christ spoke the stars into existence. It was 6,000 years ago that Jesus spoke animals, fish, plants, and land into existence. And it was 6,000 years ago that God formed man out of the dust of the earth.

Such Biblical claims seem absurd to modern evolutionists, who have convinced themselves that the earth is billions of years old. Ironically, they have absolutely NO EVIDENCE of such longevity. Evolutionists have sought out dishonest scientists, who distort the facts, use faulty testing methods, and make erroneous assumptions (unethically stating such assumptions as if they were facts). Evolution is at best still a THEORY. Yet, children are brainwashed in godless public schools all across the world, with evolution, which is taught as if it were a fact. This is evil. It is evil to deny students the Biblical account of creationism. The Word of God makes infinite more sense than the fairytale of evolution.

One of the simplest and best proofs that evolution is a joke, is the FACT that there is NO recorded history prior to 4,000 B.C. The world's history is CLEARY defined by SIX world powers since time began: Egypt, Assyria, Babylon, Medo-Persia, Greece, and Rome. Since Rome's fall in 476 A.D., there have been no world-powers (many super-powers; but, no world-powers). At the time of Moses, Egypt ruled the world. The Israelites were used as slave labor by Pharaoh to build the pyramids. Before Egypt, there is absolutely nothing recorded in history about a world-power. It is NO coincidence that Revelation 17:10 speaks of these world-powers, "...five are fallen, and one is, and the other is not yet come; and when he cometh, he must continue a short space." At the writing of Revelation, Rome was still a world-power. The Apostle John, under the inspiration of the Holy Spirit, tells us that Rome is the 6th world-power, and there is one more to come. The 7th world-power will be the beast system, the kingdom of the antichrist. This diabolical New World Order is quickly forming now (i.e., a universal religious view, global centralized government, a one-world economic system, a cashless society, etc.).

Do you think it's a mere coincidence that the Word of God is so concise on world history? The Bible records the beginning of mankind at about 4,000 B.C., and secular history is eerily silent before 4,000 B.C. for those who claim to believe in evolution. If I were an evolutionist, I would be extremely disturbed by this FACT. Prove me wrong! I dare you. I triple-dog dare you to show me any recorded civilization before 4,000 B.C. And I don't mean some pottery jug or item that you claim is 14,000 years old--Show me any evidence of civilization prior to 4,000 B.C. You cannot. In fact, it is difficult to find much recorded history before 2,500 B.C., because the flood of Noah's day destroyed most of it. How can evolutionists be so naive and foolish as to totally ignore this incredibly obvious fact? There is NO recorded history prior to 4,000 B.C.--no writings, no carved stones, no battles, no wars, no countries, no nothing! It's as if mankind just suddenly began (which is exactly what the Bible teaches happened). God created man out of the dirt, the elements, of the earth.

There were no humans before approximately 4,000 B.C. Hard to imagine? Why should it be? There is no history to indicate that humans existed prior to 4,000 B.C. This fact is irrefutable. Oh sure, some stubborn evolutionists are going to start talking about carbon-dating, archeological findings, etc. BUT, the bottom line is that the history of mankind should be traceable far beyond 4,000 B.C., going back million of years IF evolution were true.


Something Else to Consider

IF, as evolutionists claim, the earth is billions of years old, and mankind has evolved from a lower and simpler form of life, then why has mankind gone from writing upon stones to laser printers in just the past 3,500 years? When God gave Moses the Ten Commandments, they were written upon stone. It is abundantly clear that the Egyptians carved messages into stone (hieroglyphics). So why is it that mankind has only discovered better inventions in the past few thousand years? If mankind had evolved, as evolutionists claim, then why didn't man discover ink a million years ago? Think about it. This is an astonishing thought--There were NO planes, cars, computers, refrigerators, electricity, lights, gas, powered-equipment, telephones, recording devices, CD players, MP3 players, electric razors, televisions, record players, movie cameras, or a million other modern technological inventions--just a mere 170 years ago. Civilization has advanced from utter primitiveness to incredible mind-boggling achievements in just a little over 100 years. So why didn't mankind discover any of this stuff 100,000,000 years ago, or 100,000 years ago for that matter?

Look at the ignorance of doctors over the past few centuries. Sanitary practices, such as washing hands, were laughed at by doctors, while thousands of patients continued to die. It was unimaginable to doctors back then, that washing one's hands somehow was related to a patient's health in the operating room. Can you believe that? Evolutionists today are just as ignorant of the truth of God's Word, and of common sense itself. It's hard to imagine that millions of people were dying from a simple lack of ascorbic acid (Vitamin C) just a couple hundred years ago. If evolution is true, then it took man billions of years to learn all these kindergarten lessons. And ironically, man has only learned these lessons in the past couple hundred years. You've got to be kidding me! Don't tell me that it took mankind BILLIONS of years to learn to wash his hands to prevent disease! The truth is that mankind has taken baby-steps since 4,000 B.C., and it did take him nearly 6,000 years to learn to wash his hands. This is just another undeniable PROOF that evolution is a lie. If mankind had evolved over millions of years, then men would have discovered these inventions a very long time ago.

The truth is that evolutionists are hardhearted against the truth of God's Word. The Word of God declares that God created the world at approximately 4,000 B.C.--YOU'D BE A FOOL NOT TO BELIEVE IT, BECAUSE THERE'S NO HISTORY PRIOR TO 4,000 B.C. As incredible as this fact is, it is undeniable proof against evolution.

Skweeky
08-21-2008, 02:22 PM
I'm glad someone cleared that one up for me.

Agrajag
08-21-2008, 03:10 PM
It's clarity of thought like that which is needed in modern life.

Agrajag
08-21-2008, 03:10 PM
It's clarity of thought like that which is needed in modern life.

NotLettingItGo
08-21-2008, 04:06 PM
Yes it's all true.

Agrajag
08-21-2008, 04:24 PM
Good first post.

I can see we're going to get along famously.

Guillaume
08-21-2008, 04:35 PM
So basically, what you're saying is that I'm screwed, I'm going to Hell for being an evolutionist?

mossy123
08-21-2008, 04:37 PM
Well said. 8 years ago I would have thought you were a raving lunatic. After seeing spirits and after cummunicating with evil forces for real I realised that indeed God does exist. It's no Joke and you only need to read the book "from witchcraft to Christ" by Doreen Irvine who was europes queen witch to get an understanding about the dark forces.

Mine were quire similar.

Proper Bo
08-21-2008, 04:42 PM
So basically, what you're saying is that I'm screwed, I'm going to Hell for being french?

yes.

Guillaume
08-21-2008, 05:08 PM
Good point, well presented. Thanks for your time.

Agrajag
08-21-2008, 05:39 PM
Well said. 8 years ago I would have thought you were a raving lunatic. After seeing spirits and after cummunicating with evil forces for real I realised that indeed God does exist. It's no Joke and you only need to read the book "from witchcraft to Christ" by Doreen Irvine who was europes queen witch to get an understanding about the dark forces.

Mine were quire similar.

I think it's a bit harsh calling him a raving lunatic just because he's French.

Skweeky
08-21-2008, 05:45 PM
I like how you brought out all these people to participate in discussion.

Agrajag
08-21-2008, 05:53 PM
It's a group of thinkers and no mistake.

Squeamous
08-21-2008, 06:07 PM
Proof that Evolution is a Hoax



by David J. Stewart


Recently, a thought captivated my mind that proves that the theory of evolution is a big hoax. The thought is simple and yet profound ... why is there no recorded history before approximately 4,000 B.C.? The answer is obvious ... there was no history! Think about it! Evolutionists claim that man evolved over billions of years (that's billions with a "B"). If there were any truth to these false claims by unscrupulous scientists, then man's historical record should span back at least hundreds-of-thousands of years, if not millions. There is no record of a cataclysmic event that destroyed mankind prior to 4,000 B.C. And if there were, surely some of the survivors would have passed this information down to generations to follow. The Bible dates creation, as we know it today, at approximately 4,000 B.C. Thus, it was approximately 6,000 years ago that God, Jesus Christ, created the heavens and the earth in 6-days. It was 6,000 years ago that Jesus Christ spoke the stars into existence. It was 6,000 years ago that Jesus spoke animals, fish, plants, and land into existence. And it was 6,000 years ago that God formed man out of the dust of the earth.

Such Biblical claims seem absurd to modern evolutionists, who have convinced themselves that the earth is billions of years old. Ironically, they have absolutely NO EVIDENCE of such longevity. Evolutionists have sought out dishonest scientists, who distort the facts, use faulty testing methods, and make erroneous assumptions (unethically stating such assumptions as if they were facts). Evolution is at best still a THEORY. Yet, children are brainwashed in godless public schools all across the world, with evolution, which is taught as if it were a fact. This is evil. It is evil to deny students the Biblical account of creationism. The Word of God makes infinite more sense than the fairytale of evolution.

One of the simplest and best proofs that evolution is a joke, is the FACT that there is NO recorded history prior to 4,000 B.C. The world's history is CLEARY defined by SIX world powers since time began: Egypt, Assyria, Babylon, Medo-Persia, Greece, and Rome. Since Rome's fall in 476 A.D., there have been no world-powers (many super-powers; but, no world-powers). At the time of Moses, Egypt ruled the world. The Israelites were used as slave labor by Pharaoh to build the pyramids. Before Egypt, there is absolutely nothing recorded in history about a world-power. It is NO coincidence that Revelation 17:10 speaks of these world-powers, "...five are fallen, and one is, and the other is not yet come; and when he cometh, he must continue a short space." At the writing of Revelation, Rome was still a world-power. The Apostle John, under the inspiration of the Holy Spirit, tells us that Rome is the 6th world-

I read THIS MUCH, what do I get? :yup:

Squeamous
08-21-2008, 06:13 PM
Looky what I found. It starts around 3.15, where Dawkins begins talking to Wendy Wright of 'Concerned women for America'. Note that they are women, and that rather than being concerned for America, they are simply concerned the majority of the time (presumably) while simultaneously being for America in general. Right. About 5.08 she asks Dawkins to show her the fossil evidence for evolution. From 5.08-5.45 Dawkins proceeds to give her some. I almost couldn't watch the expression on her face a second time but just about managed it. It's a cross between gulping really hard and vomiting :yup:.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bRGCqBZQu1w

Agrajag
08-21-2008, 07:25 PM
Proof that Evolution is a Hoax



by David J. Stewart


Recently, a thought captivated my mind that proves that the theory of evolution is a big hoax. The thought is simple and yet profound ... why is there no recorded history before approximately 4,000 B.C.? The answer is obvious ... there was no history! Think about it! Evolutionists claim that man evolved over billions of years (that's billions with a "B"). If there were any truth to these false claims by unscrupulous scientists, then man's historical record should span back at least hundreds-of-thousands of years, if not millions. There is no record of a cataclysmic event that destroyed mankind prior to 4,000 B.C. And if there were, surely some of the survivors would have passed this information down to generations to follow. The Bible dates creation, as we know it today, at approximately 4,000 B.C. Thus, it was approximately 6,000 years ago that God, Jesus Christ, created the heavens and the earth in 6-days. It was 6,000 years ago that Jesus Christ spoke the stars into existence. It was 6,000 years ago that Jesus spoke animals, fish, plants, and land into existence. And it was 6,000 years ago that God formed man out of the dust of the earth.

Such Biblical claims seem absurd to modern evolutionists, who have convinced themselves that the earth is billions of years old. Ironically, they have absolutely NO EVIDENCE of such longevity. Evolutionists have sought out dishonest scientists, who distort the facts, use faulty testing methods, and make erroneous assumptions (unethically stating such assumptions as if they were facts). Evolution is at best still a THEORY. Yet, children are brainwashed in godless public schools all across the world, with evolution, which is taught as if it were a fact. This is evil. It is evil to deny students the Biblical account of creationism. The Word of God makes infinite more sense than the fairytale of evolution.

One of the simplest and best proofs that evolution is a joke, is the FACT that there is NO recorded history prior to 4,000 B.C. The world's history is CLEARY defined by SIX world powers since time began: Egypt, Assyria, Babylon, Medo-Persia, Greece, and Rome. Since Rome's fall in 476 A.D., there have been no world-powers (many super-powers; but, no world-powers). At the time of Moses, Egypt ruled the world. The Israelites were used as slave labor by Pharaoh to build the pyramids. Before Egypt, there is absolutely nothing recorded in history about a world-power. It is NO coincidence that Revelation 17:10 speaks of these world-powers, "...five are fallen, and one is, and the other is not yet come; and when he cometh, he must continue a short space." At the writing of Revelation, Rome was still a world-power. The Apostle John, under the inspiration of the Holy Spirit, tells us that Rome is the 6th world-

I read THIS MUCH, what do I get? :yup:

I'm really impressed, that's grit and determination to the max. Well done Squeemo.

Agrajag
08-21-2008, 07:28 PM
I hope you get hit by a church van tonight and die slowly.

:lol::earl:

NotLettingItGo
08-21-2008, 07:35 PM
L-UCo7JQm-A :yup:

Agrajag
08-21-2008, 07:43 PM
That was so idiotic it was genious.

NotLettingItGo
08-21-2008, 07:45 PM
DNA doesn't prove evolution at all, but the scientists will tell you otherwise because they need you to believe in their infallibility. http://www.gnmagazine.org/issues/gn58/tinycode.htm

Agrajag
08-21-2008, 07:48 PM
People seem to think that evolution works on a mutation taking place as and when required, that there is some sort of environmental trigger and animals change into something better suited to the new environment, based on that change. The whole survival of the fittest thing (which wasn't Darwin's if memory serves)

The real problem is that people think they understand what the evolutionary theories say, based on picking up a snippet somewhere and thinking, yup I understand that. Now I know little or nothing about the subject, but I have read a bit and it's not really what most people perceive it to be.

Agrajag
08-21-2008, 07:51 PM
DNA doesn't prove evolution at all, but the scientists will tell you otherwise because they need you to believe in their infallibility. http://www.gnmagazine.org/issues/gn58/tinycode.htm

:lol:

See.

Current thinking on DNA is nothing like it was 20 or 30 years ago. There's even DNA dudes here who could try to explain it but it wouldn't work.

NotLettingItGo
08-21-2008, 07:51 PM
What is the DNA evidence for evolution? (http://www.allaboutcreation.org/dna-evidence-for-evolution-faq.htm)
The fact that mutations can corrupt DNA is important for the Darwinian paradigm because in order for an organism to eventually evolve into an entirely different organism, changes must be made to the creature’s genome over time. But Darwinian evolution needs more than just change. It needs an increase in genetic information. Critics point out that genetic mutation does not appear to provide a mechanism for that increase. In fact, there appear to be genetic limitations to the potential for biological change. As biophysicist Dr. Lee Spetner explains, “. . .Reptiles and birds are very different. Reptiles have no genetic information for wings or feathers. To change a reptile into a bird would require the addition of. . .complex information. . . . I really do not believe that the neo-Darwinian model can account for large scale evolution. What they really can’t account for is the build up of information. . . .And not only is it improbable on the mathematical level, that is theoretically, but experimentally one has not found a single mutation that one can point at that actually adds information. In fact, every beneficial mutation that I have seen reduces the information, it loses information”1

Something Else
08-21-2008, 07:54 PM
Darwin was adopted.

Agrajag
08-21-2008, 07:58 PM
What is the DNA evidence for evolution? (http://www.allaboutcreation.org/dna-evidence-for-evolution-faq.htm)
The fact that mutations can corrupt DNA is important for the Darwinian paradigm because in order for an organism to eventually evolve into an entirely different organism, changes must be made to the creature’s genome over time. But Darwinian evolution needs more than just change. It needs an increase in genetic information. Critics point out that genetic mutation does not appear to provide a mechanism for that increase. In fact, there appear to be genetic limitations to the potential for biological change. As biophysicist Dr. Lee Spetner explains, “. . .Reptiles and birds are very different. Reptiles have no genetic information for wings or feathers. To change a reptile into a bird would require the addition of. . .complex information. . . . I really do not believe that the neo-Darwinian model can account for large scale evolution. What they really can’t account for is the build up of information. . . .And not only is it improbable on the mathematical level, that is theoretically, but experimentally one has not found a single mutation that one can point at that actually adds information. In fact, every beneficial mutation that I have seen reduces the information, it loses information”1

Brief History of the United Church of God



The United Church of God, today active with congregations in more than 40 countries, began as a formal assembly in 1995. Doctrinal distinctives of the Church include the observance of a seventh-day Sabbath, a modern application of the ancient Hebrew Holy Day seasons (which Jesus also kept and which the Church believes are a literal representation of God's plan for humanity) and a firm belief that Jesus Christ will return to earth to institute a benevolent, world-encircling Kingdom of God.

condom-man
08-21-2008, 08:25 PM
Proof that Evolution is a Hoax

by David J. Stewart


Recently, a thought captivated my mind that proves that the theory of evolution is a big hoax. The thought is simple and yet profound ... why is there no recorded history before approximately 4,000 B.C.? The answer is obvious ... there was no history! Think about it! Evolutionists claim that man evolved over billions of years (that's billions with a "B"). If there were any truth to these false claims by unscrupulous scientists, then man's historical record should span back at least hundreds-of-thousands of years, if not millions. There is no record of a cataclysmic event that destroyed mankind prior to 4,000 B.C. And if there were, surely some of the survivors would have passed this information down to generations to follow. The Bible dates creation, as we know it today, at approximately 4,000 B.C. Thus, it was approximately 6,000 years ago that God, Jesus Christ, created the heavens and the earth in 6-days. It was 6,000 years ago that Jesus Christ spoke the stars into existence. It was 6,000 years ago that Jesus spoke animals, fish, plants, and land into existence. And it was 6,000 years ago that God formed man out of the dust of the earth.

Such Biblical claims seem absurd to modern evolutionists, who have convinced themselves that the earth is billions of years old. Ironically, they have absolutely NO EVIDENCE of such longevity. Evolutionists have sought out dishonest scientists, who distort the facts, use faulty testing methods, and make erroneous assumptions (unethically stating such assumptions as if they were facts). Evolution is at best still a THEORY. Yet, children are brainwashed in godless public schools all across the world, with evolution, which is taught as if it were a fact. This is evil. It is evil to deny students the Biblical account of creationism. The Word of God makes infinite more sense than the fairytale of evolution.

One of the simplest and best proofs that evolution is a joke, is the FACT that there is NO recorded history prior to 4,000 B.C. The world's history is CLEARY defined by SIX world powers since time began: Egypt, Assyria, Babylon, Medo-Persia, Greece, and Rome. Since Rome's fall in 476 A.D., there have been no world-powers (many super-powers; but, no world-powers). At the time of Moses, Egypt ruled the world. The Israelites were used as slave labor by Pharaoh to build the pyramids. Before Egypt, there is absolutely nothing recorded in history about a world-power. It is NO coincidence that Revelation 17:10 speaks of these world-powers, "...five are fallen, and one is, and the other is not yet come; and when he cometh, he must continue a short space." At the writing of Revelation, Rome was still a world-power. The Apostle John, under the inspiration of the Holy Spirit, tells us that Rome is the 6th world-power, and there is one more to come. The 7th world-power will be the beast system, the kingdom of the antichrist. This diabolical New World Order is quickly forming now (i.e., a universal religious view, global centralized government, a one-world economic system, a cashless society, etc.).

Do you think it's a mere coincidence that the Word of God is so concise on world history? The Bible records the beginning of mankind at about 4,000 B.C., and secular history is eerily silent before 4,000 B.C. for those who claim to believe in evolution. If I were an evolutionist, I would be extremely disturbed by this FACT. Prove me wrong! I dare you. I triple-dog dare you to show me any recorded civilization before 4,000 B.C. And I don't mean some pottery jug or item that you claim is 14,000 years old--Show me any evidence of civilization prior to 4,000 B.C. You cannot. In fact, it is difficult to find much recorded history before 2,500 B.C., because the flood of Noah's day destroyed most of it. How can evolutionists be so naive and foolish as to totally ignore this incredibly obvious fact? There is NO recorded history prior to 4,000 B.C.--no writings, no carved stones, no battles, no wars, no countries, no nothing! It's as if mankind just suddenly began (which is exactly what the Bible teaches happened). God created man out of the dirt, the elements, of the earth.

There were no humans before approximately 4,000 B.C. Hard to imagine? Why should it be? There is no history to indicate that humans existed prior to 4,000 B.C. This fact is irrefutable. Oh sure, some stubborn evolutionists are going to start talking about carbon-dating, archeological findings, etc. BUT, the bottom line is that the history of mankind should be traceable far beyond 4,000 B.C., going back million of years IF evolution were true.


Something Else to Consider

IF, as evolutionists claim, the earth is billions of years old, and mankind has evolved from a lower and simpler form of life, then why has mankind gone from writing upon stones to laser printers in just the past 3,500 years? When God gave Moses the Ten Commandments, they were written upon stone. It is abundantly clear that the Egyptians carved messages into stone (hieroglyphics). So why is it that mankind has only discovered better inventions in the past few thousand years? If mankind had evolved, as evolutionists claim, then why didn't man discover ink a million years ago? Think about it. This is an astonishing thought--There were NO planes, cars, computers, refrigerators, electricity, lights, gas, powered-equipment, telephones, recording devices, CD players, MP3 players, electric razors, televisions, record players, movie cameras, or a million other modern technological inventions--just a mere 170 years ago. Civilization has advanced from utter primitiveness to incredible mind-boggling achievements in just a little over 100 years. So why didn't mankind discover any of this stuff 100,000,000 years ago, or 100,000 years ago for that matter?

Look at the ignorance of doctors over the past few centuries. Sanitary practices, such as washing hands, were laughed at by doctors, while thousands of patients continued to die. It was unimaginable to doctors back then, that washing one's hands somehow was related to a patient's health in the operating room. Can you believe that? Evolutionists today are just as ignorant of the truth of God's Word, and of common sense itself. It's hard to imagine that millions of people were dying from a simple lack of ascorbic acid (Vitamin C) just a couple hundred years ago. If evolution is true, then it took man billions of years to learn all these kindergarten lessons. And ironically, man has only learned these lessons in the past couple hundred years. You've got to be kidding me! Don't tell me that it took mankind BILLIONS of years to learn to wash his hands to prevent disease! The truth is that mankind has taken baby-steps since 4,000 B.C., and it did take him nearly 6,000 years to learn to wash his hands. This is just another undeniable PROOF that evolution is a lie. If mankind had evolved over millions of years, then men would have discovered these inventions a very long time ago.

The truth is that evolutionists are hardhearted against the truth of God's Word. The Word of God declares that God created the world at approximately 4,000 B.C.--YOU'D BE A FOOL NOT TO BELIEVE IT, BECAUSE THERE'S NO HISTORY PRIOR TO 4,000 B.C. As incredible as this fact is, it is undeniable proof against evolution.

:glag:

condom-man
08-21-2008, 08:27 PM
What is the DNA evidence for evolution? (http://www.allaboutcreation.org/dna-evidence-for-evolution-faq.htm)
The fact that mutations can corrupt DNA is important for the Darwinian paradigm because in order for an organism to eventually evolve into an entirely different organism, changes must be made to the creature’s genome over time. But Darwinian evolution needs more than just change. It needs an increase in genetic information. Critics point out that genetic mutation does not appear to provide a mechanism for that increase. In fact, there appear to be genetic limitations to the potential for biological change. As biophysicist Dr. Lee Spetner explains, “. . .Reptiles and birds are very different. Reptiles have no genetic information for wings or feathers. To change a reptile into a bird would require the addition of. . .complex information. . . . I really do not believe that the neo-Darwinian model can account for large scale evolution. What they really can’t account for is the build up of information. . . .And not only is it improbable on the mathematical level, that is theoretically, but experimentally one has not found a single mutation that one can point at that actually adds information. In fact, every beneficial mutation that I have seen reduces the information, it loses information”1


dawkins muthafucka do yu see it ?

NotLettingItGo
08-21-2008, 08:47 PM
dawkins muthafucka do yu see it ?
There are only two who see it all. One is Agrajags God, the other is mine.

kaffeine
08-21-2008, 08:54 PM
I'm pretty sure Xenu was the one who brought humans to the earth in those DC-8 type planes around 75 million years ago.

Squeamous
08-21-2008, 09:21 PM
I'm really impressed, that's grit and determination to the max. Well done Squeemo.

Well I like to keep an open mind :snooty:

That church quote was my favourite :lol:

Squeamous
08-21-2008, 09:22 PM
DNA doesn't prove evolution at all, but the scientists will tell you otherwise because they need you to believe in their infallibility. http://www.gnmagazine.org/issues/gn58/tinycock.htm

Fixed.

NotLettingItGo
08-21-2008, 09:38 PM
That is truly such an intelligent post.

Agrajag
08-21-2008, 09:39 PM
:lol:

That link actually works.

I take that as absolute and final proof that God exists.

Agrajag
08-21-2008, 09:40 PM
That is truly such an intelligent post.

Your citing a fundamentalist website as a source of scientific evidence.

What do you fucking expect.

NotLettingItGo
08-21-2008, 09:42 PM
I expect nothing thank you for your inquiry though.

Squeamous
08-21-2008, 09:54 PM
L-UCo7JQm-A :yup:

See where his point falls down is that a whale didn't evolve from a cow, it probably evolved from a small aquatic deer (http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/science/article3075475.ece). Easy mistake to make, especially when you don't believe in things your brain wasn't designed to directly fathom....and you're a bit of a waffling knob.

Squeamous
08-21-2008, 09:58 PM
People seem to think that evolution works on a mutation taking place as and when required, that there is some sort of environmental trigger and animals change into something better suited to the new environment, based on that change. The whole survival of the fittest thing (which wasn't Darwin's if memory serves)

The real problem is that people think they understand what the evolutionary theories say, based on picking up a snippet somewhere and thinking, yup I understand that. Now I know little or nothing about the subject, but I have read a bit and it's not really what most people perceive it to be.

You're exactly right, and you proved it yourself. What you describe was Lamarck's theory (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jean-Baptiste_Lamarck), widely discredited when Darwin's 'Survival of the Fittest' theory came along. I've lost count of the number of times people have been discussing natural selection with me and actually come out with Lamarck's.

Agrajag
08-21-2008, 10:07 PM
People seem to think that evolution works on a mutation taking place as and when required, that there is some sort of environmental trigger and animals change into something better suited to the new environment, based on that change. The whole survival of the fittest thing (which wasn't Darwin's if memory serves)

The real problem is that people think they understand what the evolutionary theories say, based on picking up a snippet somewhere and thinking, yup I understand that. Now I know little or nothing about the subject, but I have read a bit and it's not really what most people perceive it to be.

You're exactly right, and you proved it yourself. What you describe was Lamarck's theory (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jean-Baptiste_Lamarck), widely discredited when Darwin's 'Survival of the Fittest' theory came along. I've lost count of the number of times people have been discussing natural selection with me and actually come out with Lamarck's.

Amn't I right in saying that Darwin didn't speak of "survival of the fittest". That came along later and was the phrase which led to people believing that Darwin's work and that of his contemporaries was fundamentally straightforward and that they understood it.

NotLettingItGo
08-21-2008, 10:08 PM
See where his point falls down is that a whale didn't evolve from a cow, it probably evolved from a small aquatic deer (http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/science/article3075475.ece). Easy mistake to make, especially when you don't believe in things your brain wasn't designed to directly fathom....and you're a bit of a waffling knob.
Lacking in manners, but at least a better effort to maintain the myth than your previous attempt.

clocker
08-21-2008, 10:53 PM
Lacking in manners, but at least a better effort to maintain the myth than your previous attempt.
I would have thought that myth-maintenance would be high on your list of priorities.

Something Else
08-21-2008, 11:02 PM
I get my mysticism in a bottle. :mellow:

Squeamous
08-21-2008, 11:35 PM
You're exactly right, and you proved it yourself. What you describe was Lamarck's theory (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jean-Baptiste_Lamarck), widely discredited when Darwin's 'Survival of the Fittest' theory came along. I've lost count of the number of times people have been discussing natural selection with me and actually come out with Lamarck's.

Amn't I right in saying that Darwin didn't speak of "survival of the fittest". That came along later and was the phrase which led to people believing that Darwin's work and that of his contemporaries was fundamentally straightforward and that they understood it.

He spoke of natural selection as a mechanism for evolution, and the term 'survival of the fittest' is generally accepted to mean 'fittest in terms of ability to breed', but I guess you could misinterpret it to describe Lamarckian evolution too. It's quite a vague catch-all term as most terms designed to capture the public imagination usually are.

Squeamous
08-21-2008, 11:36 PM
Lacking in manners, but at least a better effort to maintain the myth than your previous attempt.
Did I tell you I'm synaesthetic? Whenever I read your posts I can smell brussel sprouts :sick:

NotLettingItGo
08-21-2008, 11:39 PM
I would have thought that myth-maintenance would be high on your list of priorities.

I am completely flattered that you should spare any thought for me, no matter how small, thank you deeply.

NotLettingItGo
08-21-2008, 11:41 PM
Did I tell you I'm synaesthetic? Whenever I read your posts I can smell brussel sprouts :sick:
I feel sure you are many things.

clocker
08-22-2008, 02:25 AM
I would have thought that myth-maintenance would be high on your list of priorities.

I am completely flattered that you should spare any thought for me, no matter how small, thank you deeply.
You're deeply welcome.
All of my thoughts are spare.

Squeamous
08-22-2008, 09:38 AM
:lol:

NotLettingItGo
08-22-2008, 09:54 AM
You're deeply welcome.
All of my thoughts are spare.
I think that was apparent to all, but the sentiment was sincere anyway.

Skiz
08-22-2008, 09:58 AM
Proof that Evolution is a Hoax

by David J. Stewart


Recently, a thought captivated my mind that proves that the theory of evolution is a big hoax. The thought is simple and yet profound ... why is there no recorded history before approximately 4,000 B.C.? The answer is obvious ... there was no history! Think about it! Evolutionists claim that man evolved over billions of years (that's billions with a "B"). If there were any truth to these false claims by unscrupulous scientists, then man's historical record should span back at least hundreds-of-thousands of years, if not millions. There is no record of a cataclysmic event that destroyed mankind prior to 4,000 B.C. And if there were, surely some of the survivors would have passed this information down to generations to follow. The Bible dates creation, as we know it today, at approximately 4,000 B.C. Thus, it was approximately 6,000 years ago that God, Jesus Christ, created the heavens and the earth in 6-days. It was 6,000 years ago that Jesus Christ spoke the stars into existence. It was 6,000 years ago that Jesus spoke animals, fish, plants, and land into existence. And it was 6,000 years ago that God formed man out of the dust of the earth.

Such Biblical claims seem absurd to modern evolutionists, who have convinced themselves that the earth is billions of years old. Ironically, they have absolutely NO EVIDENCE of such longevity. Evolutionists have sought out dishonest scientists, who distort the facts, use faulty testing methods, and make erroneous assumptions (unethically stating such assumptions as if they were facts). Evolution is at best still a THEORY. Yet, children are brainwashed in godless public schools all across the world, with evolution, which is taught as if it were a fact. This is evil. It is evil to deny students the Biblical account of creationism. The Word of God makes infinite more sense than the fairytale of evolution.

One of the simplest and best proofs that evolution is a joke, is the FACT that there is NO recorded history prior to 4,000 B.C. The world's history is CLEARY defined by SIX world powers since time began: Egypt, Assyria, Babylon, Medo-Persia, Greece, and Rome. Since Rome's fall in 476 A.D., there have been no world-powers (many super-powers; but, no world-powers). At the time of Moses, Egypt ruled the world. The Israelites were used as slave labor by Pharaoh to build the pyramids. Before Egypt, there is absolutely nothing recorded in history about a world-power. It is NO coincidence that Revelation 17:10 speaks of these world-powers, "...five are fallen, and one is, and the other is not yet come; and when he cometh, he must continue a short space." At the writing of Revelation, Rome was still a world-power. The Apostle John, under the inspiration of the Holy Spirit, tells us that Rome is the 6th world-power, and there is one more to come. The 7th world-power will be the beast system, the kingdom of the antichrist. This diabolical New World Order is quickly forming now (i.e., a universal religious view, global centralized government, a one-world economic system, a cashless society, etc.).

Do you think it's a mere coincidence that the Word of God is so concise on world history? The Bible records the beginning of mankind at about 4,000 B.C., and secular history is eerily silent before 4,000 B.C. for those who claim to believe in evolution. If I were an evolutionist, I would be extremely disturbed by this FACT. Prove me wrong! I dare you. I triple-dog dare you to show me any recorded civilization before 4,000 B.C. And I don't mean some pottery jug or item that you claim is 14,000 years old--Show me any evidence of civilization prior to 4,000 B.C. You cannot. In fact, it is difficult to find much recorded history before 2,500 B.C., because the flood of Noah's day destroyed most of it. How can evolutionists be so naive and foolish as to totally ignore this incredibly obvious fact? There is NO recorded history prior to 4,000 B.C.--no writings, no carved stones, no battles, no wars, no countries, no nothing! It's as if mankind just suddenly began (which is exactly what the Bible teaches happened). God created man out of the dirt, the elements, of the earth.

There were no humans before approximately 4,000 B.C. Hard to imagine? Why should it be? There is no history to indicate that humans existed prior to 4,000 B.C. This fact is irrefutable. Oh sure, some stubborn evolutionists are going to start talking about carbon-dating, archeological findings, etc. BUT, the bottom line is that the history of mankind should be traceable far beyond 4,000 B.C., going back million of years IF evolution were true.


Something Else to Consider

IF, as evolutionists claim, the earth is billions of years old, and mankind has evolved from a lower and simpler form of life, then why has mankind gone from writing upon stones to laser printers in just the past 3,500 years? When God gave Moses the Ten Commandments, they were written upon stone. It is abundantly clear that the Egyptians carved messages into stone (hieroglyphics). So why is it that mankind has only discovered better inventions in the past few thousand years? If mankind had evolved, as evolutionists claim, then why didn't man discover ink a million years ago? Think about it. This is an astonishing thought--There were NO planes, cars, computers, refrigerators, electricity, lights, gas, powered-equipment, telephones, recording devices, CD players, MP3 players, electric razors, televisions, record players, movie cameras, or a million other modern technological inventions--just a mere 170 years ago. Civilization has advanced from utter primitiveness to incredible mind-boggling achievements in just a little over 100 years. So why didn't mankind discover any of this stuff 100,000,000 years ago, or 100,000 years ago for that matter?

Look at the ignorance of doctors over the past few centuries. Sanitary practices, such as washing hands, were laughed at by doctors, while thousands of patients continued to die. It was unimaginable to doctors back then, that washing one's hands somehow was related to a patient's health in the operating room. Can you believe that? Evolutionists today are just as ignorant of the truth of God's Word, and of common sense itself. It's hard to imagine that millions of people were dying from a simple lack of ascorbic acid (Vitamin C) just a couple hundred years ago. If evolution is true, then it took man billions of years to learn all these kindergarten lessons. And ironically, man has only learned these lessons in the past couple hundred years. You've got to be kidding me! Don't tell me that it took mankind BILLIONS of years to learn to wash his hands to prevent disease! The truth is that mankind has taken baby-steps since 4,000 B.C., and it did take him nearly 6,000 years to learn to wash his hands. This is just another undeniable PROOF that evolution is a lie. If mankind had evolved over millions of years, then men would have discovered these inventions a very long time ago.

The truth is that evolutionists are hardhearted against the truth of God's Word. The Word of God declares that God created the world at approximately 4,000 B.C.--YOU'D BE A FOOL NOT TO BELIEVE IT, BECAUSE THERE'S NO HISTORY PRIOR TO 4,000 B.C. As incredible as this fact is, it is undeniable proof against evolution.

:glag:

I couldn't have put that better.

Skiz
08-22-2008, 10:01 AM
Has anyone been watching the (UK?) show "The Genius of Charles Darwin"?

It's a multi-part series and quite enlightening.

Squeamous
08-22-2008, 10:14 AM
Not me :dry:

Skiz
08-22-2008, 10:18 AM
Closing your mind, eh?

I suppose that's one way to go about things.

Agrajag
08-22-2008, 10:27 AM
Not me :dry:

I'd have thought that would be your type of thing.