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Nemrod
08-27-2008, 05:33 PM
I donīt know whatīs happening but lately is almost impossible to get a 1:1 individual file ratio in SCT and FTn as well.
Not even with a seeedbox is easy to keep healthy ratio.
FTN, as always, looks concerned by the issue and besides the ratioless thing and now the timeless thing staff seems worried and looking for solutions.
I thought that new rules in SCT could help, but for me at least, every day is becoming harder and harder to seedback.
Somebody else thinks the same? :unsure:

deadalive1
08-27-2008, 05:49 PM
Honestly Nemrod, I personally don't have a problem with that on either tracker. Maybe its because I jump on stuff I want fast (within the first 5-10 people on the torrent). But if you don't get on something before it is well seeded (especially on ScT) you could find yourself not getting back to a 1:1 quite more often then not.

ose
08-27-2008, 05:50 PM
1 GB seedboxes did some damage :)

hitman51
08-27-2008, 05:50 PM
Uhm well FTN is really hard to seed on..i gotta agree with that...i quit!!

ben99
08-27-2008, 05:52 PM
no both are easy to seedback at. For example i got a really high ratio on weeds at ftn... And I dled a random torrent at sct and got a 2.0 So no its really easy to seed at both.

DuDutchy
08-27-2008, 05:53 PM
ScT is easy to seed on with Freeleech on all packs and 75% download on all other torrents.
Ofcourse you will have problems seeding when you only download old stuff with no leechers, but retards like that don't deserve an account on FTN nor ScT

Also, I'm able to get an 1.0 ratio on popular PC games and popular xvid movies on ScT with 1mbit upstream.

integral
08-27-2008, 05:54 PM
it is hard to get a 1:1 ratio on sct unless you have a box and hop on the torrent like instantly autodownloader.

but the rules on sct say either a 1 ratio 3 days or whatever, so it's not a big deal, unless you're worried about having a 15 ratio or something.

Raban
08-27-2008, 05:54 PM
ScT is beyond easy to seed

fstokebanget
08-27-2008, 05:54 PM
yes, I think it's because most of users set their rss active so if you download the torrent just 1 or 2 hours after being up there, you would probably have difficults in keeping the ratio to 1.0

IdolEyes787
08-27-2008, 06:02 PM
Like deadalive said if you aren't quickly on torrents below say 10GB there is a definite moment where you ask yourself should I even bother?

No doubt as 1 GB boxes and mIRC auto downloading become more popular it will only get worse.

It kind of defeats the whole idea of behind file sharing doesn't it?

Nemrod
08-27-2008, 06:12 PM
Well, I see... I am an old styled user... I click the link, read the .nfo, go to IMDB and only when Iīm convinced that the release will be useful to me I download the .torrent.
So... if I want to keep a healthy ratio is not enough renting a seedbox or being updating .browse.php every 5 or 10 minutes... now I have to grab any shit uploaded almost before itīs uploaded.
Crap! This is not being funny anymore. :no:

dunson
08-27-2008, 06:15 PM
Well, I see... I am an old styled user... I click the link, read the .nfo, go to IMDB and only when Iīm convinced that the release will be useful to me I download the .torrent.
So... if I want to keep a healthy ratio is not enough renting a seedbox or being updating .browse.php every 5 or 10 minutes... now I have to grab any shit uploaded almost before itīs uploaded.
Crap! This is not being funny anymore. :no:

I dunno but I do those things too all manually and still get over 1 on most torrents (pretty much DVDs only too btw). And on my home line I can get .25 in the first day and .5-.75 over a few days usually.

aaatoel
08-27-2008, 06:30 PM
I can't say anything about FTN since I am not a member but as far as ScT I think it is relatively easy to seed back until 1:1. I have 1mbit upload and there is not one single torrent I haven't achieved this goal. Sure, for some of them I had to seed for more than a week but it wasn't a big deal! :)

PunX
08-27-2008, 06:44 PM
it's very easy to seed on sct , ftn sux donkey hairy balls

hotshot6473
08-27-2008, 06:50 PM
Does FTN even record your torrent ratio since it is a no ratio site? I would imagine that as long as you seed for the right amount of time that is all that matters. Obviously if you want to gain higher levels you would want to seed over the 1:1 ratio but otherwise I would imagine you guys are stressing over nothing. Correct me if I am wrong

dunson
08-27-2008, 06:52 PM
FTN records ratios, an admin posted something about how a third of the users are below 1.0 and not at risk (at least because of low ratio). Also, the worst sharers top 10 etc must calculate it somehow.

users
08-27-2008, 06:53 PM
Some people are just really retarted.....being hard to seed is a very good thing for a tracker, for obvious reasons, does anyone really think the opposite is true???.

LubTheStaringCat
08-27-2008, 06:54 PM
I have a shity home connection, and I got good buffer on FTN
Every now and again, there are good torrents you can seed back.
but that Is over a long period.

Nemrod
08-27-2008, 06:57 PM
Does FTN even record your torrent ratio since it is a no ratio site? I would imagine that as long as you seed for the right amount of time that is all that matters. Obviously if you want to gain higher levels you would want to seed over the 1:1 ratio but otherwise I would imagine you guys are stressing over nothing. Correct me if I am wrong


Well, I really donīt know, I use FTN exactly in the same way I use BitMeTV or TL, the ratioless and timeless options... knowing they are there are a relief, but I am used to seedback more than I get, and no matteers what, if I donīt see a number greater than 1 in each and every torrent I grab I donīt feel comfortable. :(

IdolEyes787
08-27-2008, 06:59 PM
Some people are just really retarted.....being hard to seed is a very good thing for a tracker, for obvious reasons, does anyone really think the opposite is true???.


Yes, but then again I am retarted.:whistling

users
08-27-2008, 07:03 PM
Some people are just really retarted.....being hard to seed is a very good thing for a tracker, for obvious reasons, does anyone really think the opposite is true???.


Yes, but then again I am retarted.:whistling

speed, or easy ratio..what do you prefer?, you can't complain just because you can't have both....

Nemrod
08-27-2008, 07:05 PM
Yes, but then again I am retarted.:whistling

speed, or easy ratio..what do you prefer?, you can't complain just because you can't have both....


So... TorrentLeech is just a product of my imagination... good to know. :huh:

users
08-27-2008, 07:07 PM
speed, or easy ratio..what do you prefer?, you can't complain just because you can't have both....


So... TorrentLeech is just a product of my imagination... good to know. :huh:

People who complain about ratio, forget the big sites and just use torrentleech...problem solved.

colbert
08-27-2008, 07:14 PM
ScT is tough if your connection isn't so hot. If this is the case, I would focus on the packs. You can build up some buffer on the packs to make up for any regular torrents you can't seed back to 1.0. That said you can still be successful on a slow connection. It might take you weeks to seed back a pack from your home connection, but it's still possible.

th0r
08-27-2008, 07:20 PM
Or, you can do what I did, and design some shit for ScT and get 500 GB upload credit in return.

LOL

IdolEyes787
08-27-2008, 07:22 PM
A retarded comment but TL is a big site.Much bigger than ScT or FTN.
Every big site is relatively easy to seed on.Comes with the more varied user base.
And I think you miss the point .It's not ease necessarily that we are talking about here it's lack of fun.
The most efficient car to drive is rarely the most pleasurable.

Just add that I can maintain a >5 ratio on BMTV so I'm not merely talking sour grapes.

Nemrod
08-27-2008, 07:24 PM
I didnīt explain myself clearly... as always. :cry:

I have an excellent ratio at SCT and if such thing would exist in FTN, it would be even better... what I meant is that lately Iīm having problems doing exactly the same, or even more, than before for getting 1:1 individual file ratio. :huh:

hotshot6473
08-27-2008, 07:47 PM
No doubt it is getting harder because more and more people are getting better connections and seedboxes. Also you have to take into account that it is a somewhat elite tracker and the new people that are invited want to seed just as bad or even worse than you do.

God knows what will happen if OVH starts selling to the USA

Swift
08-27-2008, 07:58 PM
most of the users are : or active on irc and jump on the new torrents or they have RSS + they have seedboxes up to 1gb and seed quick

You can make 1:1 ratio if you seed longer or you get on the torrent quick ;) but only if you have good ISP

Tokeman
08-27-2008, 08:03 PM
I have no issues on either site... I don't have a seedbox, or high upload. I think its either the torrents people dl are just less popular on those sites, or maybe its a routing issue. Are most of the peers outside your country on the problem trackers you mentioned? This can dramatically affect your ability to seed. On my worst site, I only get around 50% of peers outside my country, maybe that is why I have little issues seeding.

Enlightened
08-27-2008, 09:58 PM
I donīt know whatīs happening but lately is almost impossible to get a 1:1 individual file ratio in SCT and FTn as well.
Not even with a seeedbox is easy to keep healthy ratio.
FTN, as always, looks concerned by the issue and besides the ratioless thing and now the timeless thing staff seems worried and looking for solutions.
I thought that new rules in SCT could help, but for me at least, every day is becoming harder and harder to seedback.
Somebody else thinks the same? :unsure:

Porn always work for me....LMAO, just seeded one at F*N, more then 1:1 ..in 1 day, without Seedbox....:yup:

saulin
08-28-2008, 12:56 AM
It's simply imposible to seed every torrent 1:1 at just about any tracker except public ones and the whole ratio thing well throws me off. That's whay I preffer usenet. I do like trackers that have nice bonus systems or low ratio requierements.

Like Enlightened said though. If you have problems getting your ratio up, usually porn seems to help a lot since everyone loves porn.

But do not expect to seed very torrent 1:1. It won't happen and I do use my system for more than torrenting to have my system seeding a hundred torrents 24/7 till I get 1:1 ratio on every torrent.

As far as SCT goes, I decided not to use it cause it's almost impossible to seed at all there plus it's just a general tarcker. That place really needs more free leech torrents, not just packs and a bonus system.

Nemrod
08-28-2008, 01:36 AM
Thanks, really.

:lol: Itīs funny, few minutes ago, before reading your advices I began to download a porn pack... and yes, itīs working perfectly. :P

fisherman
08-28-2008, 01:46 AM
Nemrod my old buddy, yes with seedbox it's quite easy to seed on both trackers providing you have some free time to jump on new torrents, but if you ain't got the free time to jump on the new torrents then regardlees of seedbox or not your not makin good seeding.

I was made redundant from my job going back last year and I had some free time so I was able to keep up a good ratio and make good buffer, these days I gave up my seedbox and with my home connection it's difficult enough to keep a 1:1 on Sct or FTN but leave them seeding long enough and nealy always someone seems to grab the torrent even if it is 2-5 weeks later :)

All in all, these day's yes unless you have a seedbox it can be difficult to maintain a good ratio if you download a lot, but to a moderate user it shoud be no probs... my view anyway :)

Nemrod
08-28-2008, 02:07 AM
Nemrod my old buddy, yes with seedbox it's quite easy to seed on both trackers providing you have some free time to jump on new torrents, but if you ain't got the free time to jump on the new torrents then regardlees of seedbox or not your not makin good seeding.

I was made redundant from my job going back last year and I had some free time so I was able to keep up a good ratio and make good buffer, these days I gave up my seedbox and with my home connection it's difficult enough to keep a 1:1 on Sct or FTN but leave them seeding long enough and nealy always someone seems to grab the torrent even if it is 2-5 weeks later :)

All in all, these day's yes unless you have a seedbox it can be difficult to maintain a good ratio if you download a lot, but to a moderate user it shoud be no probs... my view anyway :)


Hi my good friend! :)

Yes, youīre right, I understand what you say, the thing is that even having plenty of time I am not used -and I wonīt- to be hunting releases as soon as they are published... I download what Iīm going to use, downloading something just for buffering my account, even when Iīve done it, itīs something I donīt like so much... canīt find the sense, honestly.
A good friend lent me his seedbox, Iīve used boxes in some others few opportunities and I noticed that now itīs much more difficult to seedback. With my home connections I have no problems reggardless my slow speeds... I have some torrents seeding for more than 6 months, and there they will remain until my PC burns on fire.

Anyway, it was only a comment, I have very good ratios and itīs not a big problem or something immediate like that.

Thanks Fisherman, and to others mates as well for your advices and suggestions.;)

users
08-28-2008, 02:14 AM
Nemrod my old buddy, yes with seedbox it's quite easy to seed on both trackers providing you have some free time to jump on new torrents, but if you ain't got the free time to jump on the new torrents then regardlees of seedbox or not your not makin good seeding.

I was made redundant from my job going back last year and I had some free time so I was able to keep up a good ratio and make good buffer, these days I gave up my seedbox and with my home connection it's difficult enough to keep a 1:1 on Sct or FTN but leave them seeding long enough and nealy always someone seems to grab the torrent even if it is 2-5 weeks later :)

All in all, these day's yes unless you have a seedbox it can be difficult to maintain a good ratio if you download a lot, but to a moderate user it shoud be no probs... my view anyway :)


Hi my good friend! :)

Yes, youīre right, I understand what you say, the thing is that even having plenty of time I am not used -and I wonīt- to be hunting releases as soon as they are published... I download what Iīm going to use, downloading something just for buffering my account, even when Iīve done it, itīs something I donīt like so much... canīt find the sense, honestly.
A good friend lent me his seedbox, Iīve used boxes in some others few opportunities and I noticed that now itīs much more difficult to seedback. With my home connections I have no problems reggardless my slow speeds... I have some torrents seeding for more than 6 months, and there they will remain until my PC burns on fire.

Anyway, it was only a comment, I have very good ratios and itīs not a big problem or something immediate like that.

Thanks Fisherman, and to others mates as well for your advices and suggestions.;)

People work hard to give you seed.....the way you complain, its like you want slower torrents...

Nemrod
08-28-2008, 03:06 AM
People work hard to give you seed.....the way you complain, its like you want slower torrents...

:blink:
At this point I have only one doubt... are you stupid or just retarded?

Funkin'
08-28-2008, 03:09 AM
I've been having no problem hitting 1:1 on most my torrents at FTN. The ones that I haven't hit 1:1 are older ones though(a few weeks old), everything new has pretty much hit it. Not that I'm worried about each torrent breaking even there.

deadalive1
08-28-2008, 03:10 AM
People work hard to give you seed.....the way you complain, its like you want slower torrents...

:blink:
At this point I have only one doubt... are you stupid or just retarded?

My vote is for retarded. :whistling

aysomc
08-28-2008, 03:10 AM
honestly i found it quite easy to get an insane buffer on sct by just downloading the packs since they are freeleech. i would never be able to download enough to keep up with the amount i was uploading from those and even users without a seedbox can get a few GB's of upload out of each of those and then do their best with the torrents that arent freeleech. its really not that hard to keep a good ratio even for users with crappy upload.

users
08-28-2008, 03:21 AM
People work hard to give you seed.....the way you complain, its like you want slower torrents...

:blink:
At this point I have only one doubt... are you stupid or just retarded?

fucking whiner....

Nemrod
08-28-2008, 03:26 AM
fucking whiner....

fucking flamer...

Cabalo
08-28-2008, 03:28 AM
So... TorrentLeech is just a product of my imagination... good to know. :huh:

People who complain about ratio, forget the big sites and just use torrentleech...problem solved.
LOL. There is no bigger private tracker than TL. You dunno what you are talking about, or you are just a level noob.
Anyways, that was a not not so well accomplished reply.

users
08-28-2008, 03:30 AM
People who complain about ratio, forget the big sites and just use torrentleech...problem solved.
LOL. There is no bigger private tracker than TL. You dunno what you are talking about, or you are just a level noob.
Anyways, that was a not not so well accomplished reply.

"big", as in levels...idiot.

Cabalo
08-28-2008, 03:33 AM
LOL. There is no bigger private tracker than TL. You dunno what you are talking about, or you are just a level noob.
Anyways, that was a not not so well accomplished reply.

"big", as in levels...idiot.

idiots are those who think about trackers by their rarity level. because u are obviously not referring to contents level.
so obviously, sir, you are an idiot.

users
08-28-2008, 03:36 AM
"big", as in levels...idiot.

idiots are those who think about trackers by their rarity level. because u are obviously not referring to contents level.
so obviously, sir, you are an idiot.

Sct is better in content and speed, so I don't know what your talking about...

puckface
08-28-2008, 06:41 AM
yes

yayyyyyy
08-28-2008, 08:02 AM
no

ulla
08-28-2008, 08:27 AM
If u have a seedbox then, no

Enlightened
08-28-2008, 09:30 AM
Anyway, F*N , PTN, GFT, ......does not require U to Seed 1:1 ratio, as long as U keep the torrents file in your Client for 48 hours or more

dunson
08-28-2008, 10:34 AM
Basically there has been a sea change in torrents and seedboxes are a primary reason. You're right about that Nemrod.

Over/under on "users" inevitable ban?

horiZen
08-28-2008, 04:36 PM
having a gigabit box will have to be the norm in the future,,,:]

mrnobody
08-28-2008, 08:42 PM
Generally, I don't steal stuff from first page in browse.php. For one thing, i don't refresh browse php every other second or use RRS or mIRC script. For another, there usually are 10 other groups releasing the same stuff within a day....i like to have variety of option....clicky the quality one.

Perhaps that has somethign to do with me never (well, almost never) being able to seed back 1:1 on scene trackers (that including ScT and FTN). Most peeps just jump on first page...that is, if torrentz go in second page...there is almost no new leechers (unless the release is amazingly popular).

Comparing the two, FTN and ScT, i usually am able to seedback more over ScT...prolly got to do something with more peers. At FTN i usually do not cross 0.7 or even 0.5 individual ratio :-\ Regardless, FTN is where i get all (well, almost all) scene releases from :cheeky:

colbert
08-29-2008, 01:47 AM
God knows what will happen if OVH starts selling to the USA

HAHA best point so far! That would be private tracker holy hell if that happens :lol:

Unstable1
08-29-2008, 09:21 AM
Even with seedbox's I have it hard to seed at both FTN and SCT.

SchiZZo
08-29-2008, 02:20 PM
FTN is kinda tough, but with the "new" rules its a piece of cake
SCT I don't know since I'm not a member there
on another hand Bitmetv should be mentioned, to maintain a good ratio there is a f*cking nightmare :pinch:

flashback3r
08-29-2008, 03:59 PM
I think it's rather hard to seed on sct. but i don't see that as a problem, i like when there's many seeders. the problem is the ratio rule when there are many seeders, I think it's you should seed as much as possible and that's it. So I'm against ratio really, but it only works when all members are good

That1Guy
08-29-2008, 04:29 PM
on another hand Bitmetv should be mentioned, to maintain a good ratio there is a f*cking nightmare :pinch:

+1 BMTV is a pain in the ass.

Well it can be easy if you want to grab everything elsewhere, unrar it, and seed it at BMTV. I used to do that, but it got kinda annoying. Now I just use BMTV for stuff I cant find elsewhere.

As for the two trackers in question, yeah thay can be a pain to get to 1:1.

To the OP: Dont worry so much about that individual torrent ratio. The people that know you, know that you are sharing the best your connection (or current situation) allows you to ;).