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Bodasher
09-05-2003, 09:39 PM
Why is this?
It's the main reason I reverted to s****y ME.
With ME my internet connection (150K broadband with ntl), is perfect.
But with XP and 2K it is a slow as a 28K connection, downloading speeds of about 700-800 bytes!
Does anyone know why this is so?
Is it anything to do with the tsunami of worms and viruses over the past month?

3rd gen noob
09-05-2003, 09:43 PM
have you run a speed test on the connection?
where is the problem showing itself?

Bodasher
09-05-2003, 09:49 PM
I weren't able to, it was that bleeding slow.
But I know it was something to do with the internet, not the connection itself, I think, coz it works fine with ME. There must be something about XP & 2K which affects it. It could be the change from FAT32 to NTFS, since my computer may not be all that compat. ATM. I got it in 2001. So it should be. Strange!

slimboyfatz
09-05-2003, 10:00 PM
I have XP with the 600k NTL broadband..and i'll have to admit after upgrading from 98 S.E. my Connection on certain things slow's down, and this happens on sites that were previously fast as f**k..Downloading programs and stuff though still Rocket!!! ;)

Johnny_B
09-05-2003, 10:26 PM
Try disabling XP or 2K firewall.

frosty
09-05-2003, 11:04 PM
follow the instructions HERE (http://homepage.ntlworld.com/virus.outbreak/) and when all internet apps are closed,

goto RUN,
type COMMAND,
press OK
type NETSTAT -N

how many connections are there that say ESTABLISHED??

if there are more than one or two (and internet explorer etc.. are closed), then you have some sort of virus/worm etc...

Get a good scanner and firewall.

also check the ntl service status: http://www.ntl-isp.ntl.com/lookup/default.asp

Frosty

Jay
09-06-2003, 12:52 AM
i upgraded from win 98 to xp, my internet has never been faster.

balamm
09-06-2003, 01:17 AM
win9x does use different networking protocols(?) and I have found that in some cases it will seem a lot faster. For some things... Not all. The problem is, the speed may be due in part to lower security than winnt/2k/xp. Less checks mean faster times obviously.

MUSLEMAN
09-06-2003, 01:18 AM
i have xp and mine is pretty fast

angelique
09-06-2003, 02:13 AM
since you guys are talking windows xp etc. Can I upgrade from 98 SE with 2000 and have it saved over 98 se? A friend of mine said yeah, but I wanted to make 100% sure. Also I was wondering if I should go for 2000 or XP? I'm a little iffy about XP because I don't think some of my programs will run on it.

balamm
09-06-2003, 02:17 AM
since you guys are talking windows xp etc. Can I upgrade from 98 SE with 2000 and have it saved over 98 se?

No, if it was possible, it wouldn't be a good idea. Multi boot is the way to go if you still want anything of win9x.
create a second partition, Start the install from inside win98 and choose "new install" instead. This will give you both and time to learn more about NTFS systems.

If you're good with configuring things and can find drivers, 2000 will serve you well. It's nothing dazzling to look at, just serious business. And most of your win98 games and stuff will still run fine in win2k.

angelique
09-06-2003, 02:23 AM
Originally posted by balamm@6 September 2003 - 02:17

since you guys are talking windows xp etc. Can I upgrade from 98 SE with 2000 and have it saved over 98 se?

No, if it was possible, it wouldn't be a good idea. Multi boot is the way to go if you still want anything of win9x.
create a second partition, Start the install from inside win98 and choose "new install" instead. This will give you both and time to learn more about NTFS systems.

If you're good with configuring things and can find drivers, 2000 will serve you well. It's nothing dazzling to look at, just serious business. And most of your win98 games and stuff will still run fine in win2k.
umm okay i sound dumb asking this, but what exactally do i have to do to get 98 off my comp? You said multi boot? How do I go about doing that?

Bodasher
09-06-2003, 12:14 PM
I'll have to reinstall 2K/XP to try what you said, but what is the difference between the NT File System (NTFS), and FAT32? During installation 2K said it was more secure and all that, but it doesn't explain enough.

balamm
09-06-2003, 12:32 PM
NTFS doesn't waste space with clusters and blocks like fat does. If you only have say 5 bits to put into a block, that block is no longer useable. The rest of the 32 bit block is wasted. Not so with NTFS. It organises better and should be a lot faster. None of which has anything to do with the internet speed though. That's a protocol or handling issue.

balamm
09-06-2003, 12:39 PM
Originally posted by angelique@6 September 2003 - 03:23

umm okay i sound dumb asking this, but what exactally do i have to do to get 98 off my comp? You said multi boot? How do I go about doing that?
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?...&NoWebContent=1 (http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=http://support.microsoft.com:80/support/kb/articles/Q153/7/62.asp&NoWebContent=1)

http://reviews.cnet.com/4520-3671_7-5021373-1.html

http://www.techtv.com/screensavers/windows...3338939,00.html (http://www.techtv.com/screensavers/windowstips/jump/0,24331,3338939,00.html)

http://www.devhood.com/messages/message_vi...thread_id=96999 (http://www.devhood.com/messages/message_view-2.aspx?thread_id=96999)

Start with these and then ask me if you don't understand anything or just have questions.
I've had 7 operating systems on a single drive before so I should be able to help with pretty much anything you need.

Bodasher
09-06-2003, 03:25 PM
I'll try it on another partition.
Thanx!

Wolfmight
09-06-2003, 06:08 PM
actually Linux download/upload speed is faster than any Windows Platform..
Dunno why, but i could get 300kb/s on the same file downloads while on windows i only got 100-150kb/s. I swaped between the o/s as quick as possible to do these tests of my own. Oh yea, i was running Redhat.
Cant do much on linux, but hey.. wonder if it might make kazaa start downloadin from a bunch of users at 20kb/s+. never does that normally unless u really lucky