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jonathan_tijuana
09-06-2003, 06:47 AM
i just want to know if they can? :huh:

Rip The Jacker
09-06-2003, 06:49 AM
Last time I checked, No. MP3 files cannot contain a virus.

Broken
09-06-2003, 06:51 AM
i can't say for sure, i've never ran into any. best ideal is to always have a virus program running just incase you run into one. just in case you haven't looked the start up page of kazaa lite has a link to a virus program called avg, get it if you need one. i have ran into some viruses when entering websites.

jonathan_tijuana
09-06-2003, 07:02 AM
i have anti virus, i was just wondering if that kind of files could be infected.

Celerystalksme
09-06-2003, 07:04 AM
Originally posted by KrackHead2k@6 September 2003 - 16:49
Last time I checked, No. MP3 files cannot contain a virus.
same with last time i checked...which was like a few weeks ago...something could be happening...i dunno..

MUSLEMAN
09-06-2003, 08:03 AM
mp3 no but becare full that the mp3 is realy that and not something else

mogadishu
09-06-2003, 08:08 AM
Don't quote me on this, but Im thinking that since .wma files are the best for copyright protection and its what things like itunes and rhapsody use, the entire file isn't only music. This leads me to believe that instead of a copyright attachment, someone could attach a virus...

Rip The Jacker
09-06-2003, 08:20 AM
Originally posted by MUSLEMAN@6 September 2003 - 00:03
mp3 no but becare full that the mp3 is realy that and not something else
Yup, be carefull. Sometimes it says the file is an MP3 but its actually an EXE. And the EXE can be an MP3 binded with a virus. So the song will play, and the virus will open silently, but you won't notice because of the song. Even though no one ever falls for that, be carefull.

CrumbCat
09-06-2003, 08:37 AM
Originally posted by KrackHead2k+6 September 2003 - 01:20--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (KrackHead2k @ 6 September 2003 - 01:20)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-MUSLEMAN@6 September 2003 - 00:03
mp3 no but becare full that the mp3 is realy that and not something else
Yup, be carefull. Sometimes it says the file is an MP3 but its actually an EXE. And the EXE can be an MP3 binded with a virus. So the song will play, and the virus will open silently, but you won&#39;t notice because of the song. Even though no one ever falls for that, be carefull. [/b][/quote]
KrackHead2k has it correct.

Every so often there is a warning of an MP3 virus out that will destroy the contents of anyone who plays a corrupted MP3 file. The truth was that MP3&#39;s are not executable files and therefore could not become viruses.

Pay attention to what you download, and especially what you execute.

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Adster
09-06-2003, 08:40 AM
It is certanly possible an a exe virus file can easily be renemed to mp3

balamm
09-06-2003, 08:47 AM
I have had mp3s with viruses embedded. It&#39;s not all music. Haven&#39;t you ever run a suspect file through an analyzer? Stereo only has two tracks usually. I&#39;ve found many more in some and odd bits of data. Some of it might be corruption, noise, or digital management stuff but who knows?
Not as bad or as common as mpegs with viruses or code to open internet connections but they do exist.

CrumbCat
09-06-2003, 08:49 AM
Good to know - thanks Ballam.

I need to remember to run my analyzer more often.

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Rip The Jacker
09-06-2003, 08:50 AM
Yup. There is a lot of dangerous shit out there......

balamm
09-06-2003, 08:53 AM
Yes, don&#39;t forget now&#33; And check .png&#39;s while you&#39;re at it. Everyone claims they are not executable either but they have become a favourite of the virus creators.
I believe there was a problem with jpegs for a while as well but it&#39;s died off.

MUSLEMAN
09-06-2003, 09:13 AM
honestly i don&#39;t care what the file is i always check, you never know, when comes to viruses my model is better safe than sorry

Cl1mh4224rd
09-06-2003, 06:11 PM
Let&#39;s see here, hmm...

1) A legit song, say "Korn - Blind.mp3" renamed to "Korn - Blind.exe" will give you error when run.

2) A virus, say "virus.exe" renamed to "virus.mp3" will not execute, because as far as Windows knows, it&#39;s an MP3 file, and will send it to your default application for playing MP3 files (e.g. Winamp). The app will try to decode the file as an MP3, looking for needed information in every MP3 file. If it can&#39;t find that information, it&#39;s an invlaid MP3 file, and it just dies...

3) There was an exploit possible in Winamp, by using the ID3v2(?) tag, but that was quickly fixed, more than a few releases ago.

4) Image viruses require that another virus-like program be installed and running on your system. This program encodes executable code into an image file. Viewing the image will not execute the code. The only way the code can be executed is if it&#39;s extracted by the same program (on another computer, for instance) and then executed.

Inevitable
09-06-2003, 06:32 PM
No music files can&#39;t have viruses because it&#39;s an mp3 extension. Only EXE extentions have viruses in them.

Acecool
09-06-2003, 09:09 PM
exe com bat files can be viruses, image files can be viruses, pretty much anything can be a virus if an image can, the klite logo could be a virus for as much as anyone knows

Jibbler
09-06-2003, 09:27 PM
Originally posted by Inevitable@6 September 2003 - 14:32
No music files can&#39;t have viruses because it&#39;s an mp3 extension. Only EXE extentions have viruses in them.
Actually, lots of files can contain viruses. Scr, Vbs, Exe, and the list goes on and on. However, at this time, music files cannot contain viruses. Though due to technology advancements, it could happen in the future. ID tags can contain lines of code to track mp3s, etc, so it stands to reason that a virus could be embedded in there. :huh:

MadDog-2000
09-06-2003, 10:03 PM
Originally posted by Inevitable@6 September 2003 - 12:32
No music files can&#39;t have viruses because it&#39;s an mp3 extension. Only EXE extentions have viruses in them.
I hate to disappoint you guys but mp3s can actually contain viral code. But since an mp3 file is not an executible or an intepreted script file it can not do any harm to your PC. However, the viral code can be executed by a program/virus/trojan horse that has already been installed/infected your system. Don&#39;t forget that mp3s can and do contain ID and Meta Tag information, which can contain the viral code but it is unable to do any harm by itself.

There are also a bunch of executed and intepreted files that, if activated/opened will infect your system. Some of these executed or intepreted files incluse:

*.exe -> Standard Windows executible
*.msi -> Microsoft Windows Installer Package
*.msp -> Microsoft Windows Installer Pacth
*.bat -> Batch file which is intepreted by the system
*.vbs -> Visual Basic Script which is interpreted
*vbe -> Visual Basic Encoded Script
*.sct -> Windows Script component
*.html -> HyperText ducuments can contain bad code (JavaScript)
*.htm -> HyperText ducuments can contain bad code (JavaScript)
*.scr -> Screen Saver file which basically is a compiled program
*.tga -> Targa Image file which can contain scripting
*.inf -> Setup Information file which can contain bad code
*.js -> Java script which is intepreted by the Java Virtual Machine
*.jse -> Java script which is intepreted by the Java Virtual Machine
*.key -> Registry entry which can contain bad code
*.reg -> Registry entry which can contain bad code

There are a few more I think but that&#39;s all I can remember for now. Eh, and every Microsft Office Document because those can have Macro viruses. So... be afraid, be very afraid&#33; :P :D

ruf885s
09-07-2003, 07:25 PM
I don&#39;t know if it&#39;s possible. But a few days a go some thing turned all my folders on the drive I keep my music into something like ______.file or something like that. It was about 2 Gig&#39;s which was the size of all the folders of music I burned to my HD. All the MP3 files that were not in a folder seemed to be left alone.
All I remember is I downloaded like 4 songs then turned my computer off. The next day something didn&#39;t seem right. I tried to do a Scan disk on the drive and it didn&#39;t work, that’s when I noticed the strange file and my folders missing.
Was unable to move or delete the file. Only thing could do was reformat the Drive.

So I cant really say where I got it from, but when I got my new HD I partitioned a 10 gig spot for music, so only music files when here, and this problem only happened on this drive. And only noticed it after I downloaded those 4 songs.

So if anyone ever experienced something like this could you let me know what it was?

thx

nikita69
09-07-2003, 07:49 PM
Originally posted by MadDog-2000+6 September 2003 - 22:03--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (MadDog-2000 &#064; 6 September 2003 - 22:03)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteBegin-Inevitable@6 September 2003 - 12:32
No music files can&#39;t have viruses because it&#39;s an mp3 extension. Only EXE extentions have viruses in them.
I hate to disappoint you guys but mp3s can actually contain viral code. But since an mp3 file is not an executible or an intepreted script file it can not do any harm to your PC. However, the viral code can be executed by a program/virus/trojan horse that has already been installed/infected your system. Don&#39;t forget that mp3s can and do contain ID and Meta Tag information, which can contain the viral code but it is unable to do any harm by itself.

There are also a bunch of executed and intepreted files that, if activated/opened will infect your system. Some of these executed or intepreted files incluse:

*.exe -> Standard Windows executible
*.msi -> Microsoft Windows Installer Package
*.msp -> Microsoft Windows Installer Pacth
*.bat -> Batch file which is intepreted by the system
*.vbs -> Visual Basic Script which is interpreted
*vbe -> Visual Basic Encoded Script
*.sct -> Windows Script component
*.html -> HyperText ducuments can contain bad code (JavaScript)
*.htm -> HyperText ducuments can contain bad code (JavaScript)
*.scr -> Screen Saver file which basically is a compiled program
*.tga -> Targa Image file which can contain scripting
*.inf -> Setup Information file which can contain bad code
*.js -> Java script which is intepreted by the Java Virtual Machine
*.jse -> Java script which is intepreted by the Java Virtual Machine
*.key -> Registry entry which can contain bad code
*.reg -> Registry entry which can contain bad code

There are a few more I think but that&#39;s all I can remember for now. Eh, and every Microsft Office Document because those can have Macro viruses. So... be afraid, be very afraid&#33; :P :D[/b][/quote]
i agree, files with .mp3 extensions can contain macro code that the Windows or RealNetwork media players will interpret and run.

dmorgan89
09-07-2003, 08:53 PM
you can bind a virus with a mp3 file, but it makes it an exe but when you click the file the virus will run and so will the song.