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Josh
10-21-2008, 09:04 PM
Hello all,

well its time to buy a new cooler for my QX9650 i cant afford watercooling just yet as the bits i priced up coming in at the £250 to watercool just about everything on my system.

So might be able to get a new cooler for my QX9650 for a b'day present what paste and what cooler would you reccomend for this proccesor

Stock Clock and Stock Cooler =

CPU - 47'C at 100%
Core 1 - 63'C at 100%
Core 2 - 57'C at 100%
Core 3 - 57'C at 100%
Core 4 - 53'C at 100%

Bit high really i think since limit is 65'C according to Intel

Im UK so please dont link any US sites UK only please

Thanks alot :D

Detale
10-22-2008, 02:34 AM
The top 2 rated out right now are

The OCZ Vendetta 2 (http://filesharingtalk.com/vb3/OCZ%20Vendetta%202)
http://benchmarkreviews.com/images/reviews/cooling/Best_CPU_Coolers_Q1-2008/OCZ_Vendetta_2_Front.jpg

and the
Xigmatek HDT-S1283 (http://www.xigmatek.com/product/air-hdts1283.php)
http://www.legitreviews.com/images/reviews/755/hdt-s1283.jpg
Im sure you can find a UK vendor on your own ;)

My personal fav is still the Enzotech Extreme X (http://www.enzotechnology.com/extreme_x.htm)
http://www.enzotechnology.com/images/extreme_photo5.jpg

Josh
10-23-2008, 06:39 AM
Thermalright Ultra-120 Extreme (http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=HS-039-TR&groupid=701&catid=57&subcat=821&name=Thermalright%20Ultra-120%20Extreme%20CPU%20Cooler%20(Socket%20AM2/LGA775))

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/pimg/HS-039-TR_400.jpg

Ive heard good things about these but i do like the looks of the Enzotech do you think its best for my CPU

Detale
10-24-2008, 02:25 AM
Well, there is no single best cooler some are better than others sure but it's pretty much how much you want to spend on it. I am pretty sure the QX's are recommended to be water cooled but I may be wrong. As I said my personal favorite is the enzotech but at the time it was the highest rated cooler and as soon as you finish installing whatever one you pick there will be three better ones out there. Take the thremaltake you mentioned, when I got my enzotech it beat out the 120 by a few degrees. That plus the looks of it had me sold. Now the ones I mentioned above are seemingly the CPU coolers to beat. There are even a few not out yet like the Thermaltake V14 Pro that are supposed to beat up the other coolers up on the schoolyard. There is a newer Thermalright out that I believe is supposed to be better than the 120, It's the Thermalright IFX-14 (Inferno Fire eXtinguisher)
http://www.quietpc.com/files/images/products/tr-ifx14-large.jpg

But I warn you this thing is just about the largest cooler on the market that Iv'e seen. Take a look at it mounted :0
http://www.thermalright.com/new_a_page/product_images/cpu_cooler/ifx-14/installation/image022.jpg

I mean c'mon now that's obscene if you asked me. Check out the product page (http://www.thermalright.com/new_a_page/product_page/cpu/ifx-14/installation_cpu_cooler_ifx-14.html) and the install directions. I really shouldn't talk though the Enzotech is damn huge as well. If you haven't seen mine here is that build I did a while back (http://filesharingtalk.com/vb3/f-hardware-24/t-finnaly-rebuild-291941/?&highlight=enzotech) with good shots of it

In short let us know how much you want to spend on it and I will see what I can find( best bang for the buck).

clocker
10-24-2008, 01:24 PM
Bit high really i think since limit is 65'C according to Intel


I don't think thermal throttling begins till 95°C, so even with the stock cooling you have quite a bit of headroom.

There are a couple of factors to consider...
- Do you have space/size limitations
- Would you prefer low noise or superior cooling capability
- How much time does your chip normally spend at 100% load
- Does your motherboard support automatic control of the CPU fan and if it does, do you want to use it

Although the stress test is good to evaluate stability, it is not an accurate reflection of how your PC operates normally- a two or three day log of temps (preferably with a calibrated RealTemp) will give you a much better idea of what you have to contend with.
I've always been a big fan of extreme cooling but the simple fact is that the new 45nm Intel chips are efficient in a way that older designs could only dream of. Especially if you are enabling SpeedStep.

All of today's giant heatsink designs were born in the days of Athlons and P4's and as the size has increased, the need has actually lessened.

You may be better served by concentrating on your video card temps as they have continued to draw more power and produce more heat, thus displacing the CPU as the primary hot spot in the case.

Josh
10-25-2008, 10:31 AM
Maybe i should just wait till i watercool my entire system and save my money up i will keep it down to 3.4Ghz for time being as temps are not too bad and its a good speed.

Thanks for the advice on the coolers that Thermalright IFX-14 is crazy LIKE MASSIVE lol i got the room tho

Coolermasters Cosmos S case its huge stacks of room

My GFX will be included in my watercooled setup as im planning to have a full integral watercooled setup trying to keep it stelath and quiet one day as at the moment its a bit loud with 4 x 120mm Fans and the big 230mm case fan on the side

Since ive flashed my Mobo Abit IP35 - PRO dont laugh at it please lol the speedstep seems to be much more stable and realiable as i type its only at x6.0 rather than x10.0

If you think stock cooler would be good for the moment until i watercool next year than i shall stick ot it.

clocker
10-25-2008, 01:56 PM
If you think stock cooler would be good for the moment until i watercool next year than i shall stick ot it.
Your own provided figures show that the stock cooler is OK, so what we think is irrelevant.

Josh
10-25-2008, 03:05 PM
I didnt realise they were ok figures Intel says 65's is the limits as i was above and in that area i didnt wanna fry it so wanted a temp cooler before i go watercooled.

But clocker you have said 95'C i didnt know this if i did i wouldnt of posted

clocker
10-25-2008, 03:28 PM
While you're waiting around it might be interesting to see what your minimum stable voltage is.
Every dual/quad that I've worked with will run at much lower voltage than the BIOS default and that alone can buy you some more headroom.

Something to do, anyway.

Josh
10-25-2008, 03:30 PM
I was meant to ask about that at the moment its set to Automatic Voltage as it can be clocked using the abit software

Ive got it back to 3.74Ghz and running it on a stress test as i type so gonna leave it for 4 or 5 hours and see hows it goes

Acid_death69
11-04-2008, 11:03 AM
lol you can't exactly put your case on the window ledge no more either boyo:p But i would think of moving it cos you keeping in under the desk with you legs it can't be getting that much cool air.
I should start OC'ing mine hmmm

Josh
11-07-2008, 07:16 AM
gonna rise it up a bit put in onsome sort of raiser i dunno how yet its bluddy heavy lol

Acid_death69
11-07-2008, 11:37 PM
aye i can imagne like, you could always make some sort of vent or pipe that leeds from the corner of ya window to the CPU vent

Josh
11-08-2008, 10:46 AM
I was thinking something like that but i like my pc as its discreet kinda lol

Acid_death69
11-09-2008, 12:24 PM
discreet!!!! you case is huge, make a hole in the wall then.

Josh
11-09-2008, 01:49 PM
It will freeze in thewinter its a idea that has crossed my mind before like lol

Tomi
11-25-2008, 03:00 PM
Grab a Thermalright Ultra 120 Extreme with a Scythe S-Flex 120mm fan on it, can't go wrong. You might need to lap it though. I personally don't find water cooling worth the trouble.

Detale
11-25-2008, 10:46 PM
Why would he lap the chip? It's not worth it on a new chip, you viod the warranty for not that much gain.

clocker
11-26-2008, 01:39 AM
Have you ever had occasion to RMA a chip or any other incident where the warranty mattered?

Acid_death69
11-26-2008, 11:07 AM
Why would he lap the chip? It's not worth it on a new chip, you viod the warranty for not that much gain.
it's not the chip that i was suggesting lapping, it was the heatsink. Thermalright have shit quality control on their products

clocker
11-26-2008, 11:23 AM
Why would he lap the chip? It's not worth it on a new chip, you viod the warranty for not that much gain.
it's not the chip that i was suggesting lapping, it was the heatsink. Thermalright have shit quality control on their products
Then why are you buying their products?

Detale
11-26-2008, 04:24 PM
Have you ever had occasion to RMA a chip or any other incident where the warranty mattered?

You know what i did once years ago on a p4 but not since then no.
* D withdraws his statement



Why would he lap the chip? It's not worth it on a new chip, you viod the warranty for not that much gain.
it's not the chip that i was suggesting lapping, it was the heatsink. Thermalright have shit quality control on their products

Did you say that ??


Grab a Thermalright Ultra 120 Extreme with a Scythe S-Flex 120mm fan on it, can't go wrong. You might need to lap it though. I personally don't find water cooling worth the trouble.

Acid_death69
11-27-2008, 01:32 PM
it's not the chip that i was suggesting lapping, it was the heatsink. Thermalright have shit quality control on their products
Then why are you buying their products?
I dunno ask josh he bought it lol, i think he was just lucky that his one was ok.


You know what i did once years ago on a p4 but not since then no.
* D withdraws his statement



Why would he lap the chip? It's not worth it on a new chip, you viod the warranty for not that much gain.
it's not the chip that i was suggesting lapping, it was the heatsink. Thermalright have shit quality control on their products

Did you say that ??


aye that i did:)

Josh
11-27-2008, 06:45 PM
I have the luck of the draw i think nothing wrong with mine sat flat on my desktop i did know about the problems with thermalright but i took the risk and im glad i did :D

Acid_death69
11-27-2008, 11:32 PM
you've said that now, im gonna come round purposefully smack it lol

Detale
11-28-2008, 12:44 AM
Then why are you buying their products?
I dunno ask josh he bought it lol, i think he was just lucky that his one was ok.


You know what i did once years ago on a p4 but not since then no.
* D withdraws his statement



Why would he lap the chip? It's not worth it on a new chip, you viod the warranty for not that much gain.
it's not the chip that i was suggesting lapping, it was the heatsink. Thermalright have shit quality control on their products

Did you say that ??


aye that i did:)

No Tomi Said it


you've said that now, im gonna come round purposefully smack it lol

Cmon we'll double team it:01:

Acid_death69
11-28-2008, 02:30 PM
I dunno ask josh he bought it lol, i think he was just lucky that his one was ok.


You know what i did once years ago on a p4 but not since then no.
* D withdraws his statement



Why would he lap the chip? It's not worth it on a new chip, you viod the warranty for not that much gain.
it's not the chip that i was suggesting lapping, it was the heatsink. Thermalright have shit quality control on their products

Did you say that ??


aye that i did:)

No Tomi Said it

aye you are right, i said it in a different thread

MadIrish
11-29-2008, 11:11 AM
I have an OCZ Vendetta II, keeps my q9950 running beautifully @ 3.83ghz, very happy with it.

Detale
11-30-2008, 08:25 AM
Temps on that??

MadIrish
12-01-2008, 03:40 AM
Who me? If you're really interested mate I'll run a stress test tomorrow evening and post the temps, can't remember them off hand from when it was originally o/c'd and haven't had a reason really to check since as everything's been well stable.

Oh, and lol, that should obviously have been a q9550 before, not 9950 :lol: